The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:53 pm She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.

So many technicalities and no sense. You've mentioned her as a candidate to be lynched 80 times. That is basically the same thing as [insert accusation here].

I don't understand you, Jackofhearts2005.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:53 pm She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.

So many technicalities and no sense. You've mentioned her as a candidate to be lynched 80 times. That is basically the same thing as [insert accusation here].

I don't understand you, Jackofhearts2005.

It’s cause I mumble sometimes.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:53 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:51 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:49 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:46 pm I understand. Either I’m right or you misread my post.

If you’re scum, Juliets is scum. If you’re town, you really suspect Juliets too and maybe she’s scum.

Right so either way we lynch juliets

I like to call this “strategy.”

Tell me why juliets is bad without saying anything about Spacedaisy.

She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:46 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:44 am I like juliets. I feel like she is involved more so than usual. I am not entirely sure why that would be but I don't think it is in a bad way and I don't really want to discourage it. I'd give her a light green skittle (if I had skittles to give).

Someone tell me this is not a fake read.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:59 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:53 pm She poisoned the well by accusing me of a fake accusation against her just like in VH.

I had not yet accused her of doing anything.

So many technicalities and no sense. You've mentioned her as a candidate to be lynched 80 times. That is basically the same thing as [insert accusation here].

I don't understand you, Jackofhearts2005.

It’s cause I mumble sometimes.

Some people have a tendency to see the trees instead of the forest. I think you have the tendency to see a single leaf.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:30 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:44 am Hello friends. Four pages since yesterday evening, eh? Geez.

Donald it is!

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:45 am Errr, or I would vote Donald, but I seem to be having the same trouble as others on page 1 - I can't vote! Alas.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:11 pm Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?

niju's posts are at the opposite end of the stiffness spectrum. Three exclamation marks. They're almost gratuitously loose.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:03 pm Why is Never a better lynch?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:47 pm Actually you're the one who isnt trying to understand lol but whatever.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:05 pm Lynching a low-poster means ignoring all the good discussion we've had in the thread so far and going back to the day 0 game of analyzing how stiff or natural each person's check-in post felt. I don't really like that, and think we can do better.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:30 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:44 am Hello friends. Four pages since yesterday evening, eh? Geez.

Donald it is!

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:45 am Errr, or I would vote Donald, but I seem to be having the same trouble as others on page 1 - I can't vote! Alas.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:11 pm Shit, I forgot I was playing! It's been too long.

I won't catch up now because I need to leave for trivia in like 10-20 minutes.

Who's suspicious, eh?

niju's posts are at the opposite end of the stiffness spectrum. Three exclamation marks. They're almost gratuitously loose.

Lynching a low-poster means ignoring all the good discussion we've had in the thread so far and going back to the day 0 game of analyzing how stiff or natural each person's check-in post felt. I don't really like that, and think we can do better.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:03 pm Why is Never a better lynch?

As I see it, the case is no weaker than the one against juliets. I am serious. Then consider how we may project the future of the game given each permutation:

1) civilian Neverwhere
2) mafia Neverwhere
3) civilian juliets
4) mafia juliets

#3 would be a significant loss. Eliminating #1 or #2 would have similar impacts upon the future thread pace and climate apart from the obvious difference in alignment. #4 would be lovely to eliminate if the case is there.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:07 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:47 pm Actually you're the one who isnt trying to understand lol but whatever.

That’s complete bullshit.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm What Never case? Or is that your point?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:13 pm Either way I don't even think nutella should be a wagon at present. Don't ask me why, or expect a vague answer.

juliets is forcing me to play defense for her, and I hate that. She can be a wagon alongside a preferred low-poster.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm juliets I need you to talk with me. I am very nearly out of time, and I will have no control over what happens in here after class starts.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:13 pm Either way I don't even think nutella should be a wagon at present. Don't ask me why, or expect a vague answer.

juliets is forcing me to play defense for her, and I hate that. She can be a wagon alongside a preferred low-poster.

Nobody with their vote on me besides juliets is around to move their vote so would you be so kind as to vote for juliets for now to help me out

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm juliets I need you to talk with me. I am very nearly out of time, and I will have no control over what happens in here after class starts.

Jay sorry I was doing something else. I think Daisy's reason for voting me is shit but I think it's because she has not played with me as much recently. I think Jack's theory about Daisy is shit because it's clear as day she wan't defending me. I think Daisy is town, I think Jack is bad. I've forgotten who the other person is you asked for my read on.

linki

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm juliets I need you to talk with me. I am very nearly out of time, and I will have no control over what happens in here after class starts.

Jay sorry I was doing something else. I think Daisy's reason for voting me is shit but I think it's because she has not played with me as much recently. I think Jack's theory about Daisy is shit because it's clear as day she wan't defending me. I think Daisy is town, I think Jack is bad. I've forgotten who the other person is you asked for my read on.

linki

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm Ok I'm tired of all this. I am basically a stump. If I get killed in the night by the mafia I can't vote anymore but I can continue to post. If I'm lynched I'm dead.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm Ok I'm tired of all this. I am basically a stump. If I get killed in the night by the mafia I can't vote anymore but I can continue to post. If I'm lynched I'm dead.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm Ok I'm tired of all this. I am basically a stump. If I get killed in the night by the mafia I can't vote anymore but I can continue to post. If I'm lynched I'm dead.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:17 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm juliets I need you to talk with me. I am very nearly out of time, and I will have no control over what happens in here after class starts.

Jay sorry I was doing something else. I think Daisy's reason for voting me is shit but I think it's because she has not played with me as much recently. I think Jack's theory about Daisy is shit because it's clear as day she wan't defending me. I think Daisy is town, I think Jack is bad. I've forgotten who the other person is you asked for my read on.

linki

nutella. They're the three who've voted for you.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm have a couple of folks that I think are Civ, so I won't vote for them.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:16 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:09 pm juliets I need you to talk with me. I am very nearly out of time, and I will have no control over what happens in here after class starts.

Jay sorry I was doing something else. I think Daisy's reason for voting me is shit but I think it's because she has not played with me as much recently. I think Jack's theory about Daisy is shit because it's clear as day she wan't defending me. I think Daisy is town, I think Jack is bad. I've forgotten who the other person is you asked for my read on.

linki

Don’t stress yourself. Jack’s “strategy” feels snakey to me and I won’t be voting you by the time this poll ends.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm Ok I'm tired of all this. I am basically a stump. If I get killed in the night by the mafia I can't vote anymore but I can continue to post. If I'm lynched I'm dead.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:20 pm I need to figure out where I want to move my vote.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:18 pm Ok, caught up from where I entered/last posted. IT's going to take my mind a couple of days to get involved, I think. I feel rusty right now. I have a couple of folks that I think are Civ, so I won't vote for them.

I do like JJJ's thoughts on Mac, and I'm going to vote for him. I also like the Mac-juliets connection with the "fake-sounding" light-green Skittle post.

[VOTE: Mac] aubergine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:15 pm The concern would be the recent advent of soup-killing. Epi's rules do not mention such a thing (doesn't mean it doesn't exist), but it's also never something he has done before. Who knows.

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:24 pm I’m placing my vote on Nutella for now, but I may switch to Luna in a few. I just didn’t want to miss the vote while I doublecheck stuff.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:25 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:15 pm The concern would be the recent advent of soup-killing. Epi's rules do not mention such a thing (doesn't mean it doesn't exist), but it's also never something he has done before. Who knows.

Soup-killing really only works in an open setup where the mafia/town have a list of roles to look at.

In a closed setup, Town can't fake claim to cover for each other and Mafia have shakily-defined terms to soupkill on. "Oh, you tried to soupkill Leetic as the cop, but he's actually an even-night cop. Too bad."

You also kinda have to build the roles around it. AND it only works with very limited role reveals, or mafia can just POE and kill everyone.

Soupkilling is not just another technique in the garage of mafia mechanics. It's almost another type of game, usually called 'Hunt', as seen in Tinyhunt, Credithunt, and Dersehunt.

In other words, we can practically guarantee that soupkilling is not in this game, at least not in any normal form.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:25 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:25 pm In other words, we can practically guarantee that soupkilling is not in this game, at least not in any normal form.

Good!

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:25 pm I have not felt Mac was bad. Like at all. I’d be more inclined to vote nutella, but I don’t see good reason for that either except for jumping on nova’s joke which I didn’t think she was serious about originally.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:25 pm I have not felt Mac was bad. Like at all. I’d be more inclined to vote nutella, but I don’t see good reason for that either except for jumping on nova’s joke which I didn’t think she was serious about originally.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:46 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:42 pm What isn't genuine about his civilian reads? The DDL one was something prompted from their interactions, and felt like natural conversation especially considering its context (The Firefly game).

He wrote a novella to explain why he read DDL as a civilian. I don't believe that was necessary, and I don't believe that's how MacDougall operates. He was similar in his handling of dunya. He technically called me light green, but I haven't the faintest idea why -- his read on me doesn't exist. He said he liked juliets because she is "more involved than usual" (no she isn't?). He loved Kites for his big reads post, which is such an easy thing to say.

Bleh.