Re: All My Circuits the Mafia Game [Day 3]
Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:55 pm
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
> actively trying to build a counter wagonsig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:49 pmNo 100% Mac will hard bus and has done nothing to earn civ credit. Like at all. Especially considering he was always net -1 Epi switched off me prior to which I voted for Dom.Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:42 pm He was the second voter
Plus he’s got swag
And by the way, Dom, there were a lot of stuff that made you scum. The “in your face thing” was barely adding any value to the case.
I think I can read you fairly easy though, so I’ll be glad to put your theory to the test and you can always prove me wrong.
But your little outburst is also from scum mentality, “yeah i’m scum but the reasons you’re calling me scum for absolutely suck”
Interesting is that you and Epi both focused on that more than the other points. You are triggered by that and Epi tried to focus on that to tip me off. Hmmmmm.
I will be back later with probably a huge case on who the other scum are and the towns etc etc
Good job towns
Once you take into vote manipulation I was a sealing vote there, while Mac dropped an early vote and wasn't around for EOD it doesn't clear him at all or really Creature as much. The only one coming out looking great is Sab since she was active when he was lynched. I don't agree with calling locktown so early especially when he could take a negative vote.
I;ll also stand with Epi here since from a Meta stand point he always has the in your face style. That's how he plays as both civ/mafia ask anyone familiar with his meta.
I'm curious why you immediately turn to Epi and not nova who was actively trying to build a counter wagon.
The score was 4-3 when I switched my vote aka 3-3, so in your world my buddy, who you spent forever trying to go after me with, got my vote for reasons. That literally makes no sense, we were both here and could've easily created any other wagon.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:08 amTranslation -
"My buddy is going to flip Network President. It's going to look real awkward if I don't vote there"
And how? Like I just said when Mac voted Dom wasn't at risk of being lynched he has done nothing overly town this game at all. He pops in makes a few posts doesn't really contribute and leaves.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:03 am Mac bussing makes no fucking sense here, and he's been town as fuck throughout the game before this. This should lock creature and the PoE is down to Sig, Enrique and Sprit.
You were not here though. You showed up 10min before EoD. How could you possible "easily" create another wagon without suiciding? You're not taking for idiots or what?sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:26 amThe score was 4-3 when I switched my vote aka 3-3, so in your world my buddy, who you spent forever trying to go after me with, got my vote for reasons. That literally makes no sense, we were both here and could've easily created any other wagon.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:08 amTranslation -
"My buddy is going to flip Network President. It's going to look real awkward if I don't vote there"
Full stop I was the reason he got lynched as you parked your vote on me the counterwagon to Dom. Now you're trying to deflect away from your vote and the Dom flip and get me lynched.
Again when I switched to him it took it from a tie to him getting lynched. You also never even expressed suspicion so don't go trying to completely turn this around on me.
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:06 amI hate this post. It's sensationalism. It doesn't feel like Nanook was necessarily relying on his own meta or even using it to aggressively defend himself or "absolves" himself like you're saying, it rather was just a remark about what he'd have done in that scenario.
It's not necessarily a bad look to share that kind of stuff, just like people that don't know him aren't just going to buy it. There is a lot of wifom in that kind of stuff. The way you paint his behavior as being an alternative to baddie hunting, and the in your face attitude is a much worse look imo.
Also I don't think he's done much baddie hunting to being with lol.
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:19 pm Hmmm, that's my general gripe with him. There doesn't seem to be much progression in his reads, just a lot of aggressive prods and bland questions with no very little follow up. It's that aggressive attitude that makes me think that he isn't trying to figure anyone out nor even hear them out, he's just in your face from the get-go. I don't see much for a train of thoughts and the post/quotes seem arbitrary 'cause there is no conclusion or anything.
A lot of the suspicion feels also like surface stuff with things such as activity excuses/being absent/referring to self-meta. It's like he's looking at easy ways to fake suspect people and rolls with them aggressively to appear like he's confident and solving. It's the kind of milking scum reads that scum uses to navigate the game.
The progression on Sig was also another that pinged me. He hadn't even mentioned him prior to EoD2 at all and then in a matter of a few quoted posts with bland questions/prod, he jumped to the top of list. It feels fake especially since the post that kickstarted was Sig theorycrafting about the Indie and just making a bet, like that shit is NAI. He then shoehorned sig's Sabie suspicion which he hadn't mentioned before at all. The latter is something that Enrique mentioned, he didn't believe Sig for it. Shit is racing in my head lol, all three are part of the remuntada PoE so it's pretty interesting.
Go deep on Rej if you got time. He's a lock from me so I'll see if I can help you see the light in case I kick the bucket.
Let's see how "town as fuck" Mac has been. Shall we?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:03 am Mac bussing makes no fucking sense here, and he's been town as fuck throughout the game before this. This should lock creature and the PoE is down to Sig, Enrique and Sprit.
All right then.
This is the first noteworthy post. It says absolutely nothing.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:27 amEnrique is definitely someone who if they are scum is capable of being lynched. I'm always pretty cozy with an Enri wagon. Nice guy though.
I have no real issue with this except that Mac could have taken a few minutes to make up his own mind.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:40 pm I just voted there to see what the votes were like. Should I not be voting Nanook? Is he towny townpants?
Because you're "town as fuck," Mac!MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:54 pm Why does the fact that I am not doing much to go off of interest you so much that you need to say it?
Me too, brother.
Good to know.
"Town as fuck" folks.
Let's see how you fared.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:54 amBut I am town. I don't think me dying is a good thing. Unless I get night killed.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 am The answer is that mac needs to die, I still think creature needs to die, and Epi convinced me on nova. If one of those is wrong I’ll have to make a POE and that sounds like a lot of work tbh, so I’m just gonna stick to those names.
I'm happy to get night killed though so I do encourage the scum to kill me because I am secretly solving the game really good like and just about have the whole thing wrapped up in a neat little package. You shouldn't risk leaving me alive.
Um...MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:56 am Nova, Dom, Epi, Nanook are all town. We should make a pile.
Um...MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:57 am Tedexter, Creature, Sig, Sabie12. Lynch this pile and win.
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:03 am Mac bussing makes no fucking sense here, and he's been town as fuck throughout the game before this. This should lock creature and the PoE is down to Sig, Enrique and Sprit.
If you strip it completely from context, I guess, suresig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:44 pmYou left out half of said meta until I mentioned it though.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:21 pmYeah why would I know my own metasig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:46 pmRight? I think he slipped up on his own meta analysis and I think he realized he had to switch his game since he just won as scum.
Dom/Nanook/ and either Nova or Mac
with a likelihood that either Nove/Mac are third party. Why do I keep rolling back to that? Since I don't think nova/Mac are playing within their civ meta and both have done enough to make me feel off for reasons I've already said.![]()
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He has no reason whatsoever to kickstart Dom's wagon. He won't be getting any legitimate credit unless he actively pushes it and be active, which he wasn't so his vote from scum perspective makes no sense. It's a loss-loss. Dom was also someone that he town-read throughout the game earlier, the 180 and extreme change are town indicative. Scums's progression are much tamer trying to appear consistent and talking themselves into stuff.sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:27 amAnd how? Like I just said when Mac voted Dom wasn't at risk of being lynched he has done nothing overly town this game at all. He pops in makes a few posts doesn't really contribute and leaves.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:03 am Mac bussing makes no fucking sense here, and he's been town as fuck throughout the game before this. This should lock creature and the PoE is down to Sig, Enrique and Sprit.
And how does this lock creature? You're again doing what I've said before.
That is town as fuck indeed. Genuine tone and energy, has no agenda feel to him at all and appears to be uninformed every time he shows up randomly. Inactive scum are very much informed.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:50 amLet's see how "town as fuck" Mac has been. Shall we?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:03 am Mac bussing makes no fucking sense here, and he's been town as fuck throughout the game before this. This should lock creature and the PoE is down to Sig, Enrique and Sprit.
He has sixteen posts (Hell, I have 87). So this shouldn't take long.
All right then.
This is the first noteworthy post. It says absolutely nothing.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:27 amEnrique is definitely someone who if they are scum is capable of being lynched. I'm always pretty cozy with an Enri wagon. Nice guy though.
"definitely someone who if they are scum is capable of being lynched."
Thank you, Mac. Thank you ever so much for that delightful and educational insight.
I have no real issue with this except that Mac could have taken a few minutes to make up his own mind.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:40 pm I just voted there to see what the votes were like. Should I not be voting Nanook? Is he towny townpants?
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Because you're "town as fuck," Mac!MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:54 pm Why does the fact that I am not doing much to go off of interest you so much that you need to say it?
Me too, brother.
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Good to know.
"Town as fuck" folks.
Let's see how you fared.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:54 amBut I am town. I don't think me dying is a good thing. Unless I get night killed.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:38 am The answer is that mac needs to die, I still think creature needs to die, and Epi convinced me on nova. If one of those is wrong I’ll have to make a POE and that sounds like a lot of work tbh, so I’m just gonna stick to those names.
I'm happy to get night killed though so I do encourage the scum to kill me because I am secretly solving the game really good like and just about have the whole thing wrapped up in a neat little package. You shouldn't risk leaving me alive.
Um...MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:56 am Nova, Dom, Epi, Nanook are all town. We should make a pile.
Um...MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:57 am Tedexter, Creature, Sig, Sabie12. Lynch this pile and win.
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:03 am Mac bussing makes no fucking sense here, and he's been town as fuck throughout the game before this. This should lock creature and the PoE is down to Sig, Enrique and Sprit.![]()
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I've been high on Mac throughout the whole game based on this tell, and he's been in my town pile for that ever since the start of the game. Nothing has changed and there is no "trying to get Mac on your side".
Okay.
The third point is what is called in psychology "projecting". Dom didn't really do much shit either. In this context, he is neglecting the fact that he was also not doing anything and uses that to accuse someone else, while unconsciously acknowledging that not doing shit is bad. This is not how you accuse a team mate.Dom wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 6:01 pm Nanook is:
1) emphasising his own meta as "proof" of anything. This is a common baddie tactic to cherrypick data points that fit the narrative you're choosing to push
2) referenced that he forgot that a baddie role existed. Very common to talk about your own role, even unintentionally. He then used WIFOM to defend against me saying something about that
3) Crazy how little he's trying to solve the game. "Voting nova because Epi" is his literal response to my mild probing
I don't like it. Not one bit.
Oh you conveniently forgot the baddie role you totally don't have?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:27 pm I missed bender and network executive at first glance, I’m not as literate as I want to be ok
This on the other hand reads as a scum to scum interaction and it looks so, so bad. Not only does Rej hedge on Dom in a way that's really scummy, ergo
this never happened.Rej wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:24 amI agree with the above reads, I can align myself with them, I will revisit Dom and see if I find something for myself.Tedexter wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:14 am Nova is not yet uh in the definitive town block, I'm keeping him in check because reasons.
Creature is locked yes, I don't get why people scum read him, I thought it was because they didn't want mafia to kill him. Dude's Bender. ET most likely had a tie between him and LC, so LC received a bonus vote, and LC was voted by Creature and LC. So, quick maths and stuff, Creature's Bender.
Sabie is not locked, I can say she's falling really fast and trends downhill in increments with each post, but nobody on my scum list trends upwards either so I have no reason to replace any of you with her.
Lynch Dom.
This is not a team mate defending a team mate, just confused town. Reads as genuine frustration, not because I would be right or wrong, but because I've said the stuff I said. Which is inherently townier. That's why Enrique is above the line right now.Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:43 pmIt's completely insane to me that the same people that spent four pages in an incoherent back and forth are now saying this about Dom. I don't mean this as a personal criticism, but seriously, pot, kettle? No? What exactly have been the more useful points?therealet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:16 pm+1 on the dom stuffTedexter wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:11 am I actually might be down with lynching Dom. I don't like the things he's focusing on. It's nothing substantiated, only things that are taken at face value. Superficial stuff. Like talking about activity. Sure, devoid of any context, that's scummy. But does that alone make someone scum though? hm.
I'm down to give sabie a town read as well, she has to put more work in to get a conclusive read.
I think I'm good sitting at nova - et - sabie town for now. With the further explanation that sabie is town for weak reasoning, I don't want my legacy to be "yeah, sabie is locked town". She doesn't really seem that interested in solving the game and I don't know whether that's influenced by IRL or because she has TMI. She seems more excited engaging in off-topic stuff then actually writing stuff out and figuring the game.
I'm going on et's hand with the sabie town read, although something holds me back from accepting it 100%.
its like hes focusing on useless points as a way to force content
Therealet wagon should contain more scumsprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:36 pm Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet
Day 2:
NANOOK (2) - Mac, Creature
Rej (1) - Tedexter
Sig (1) - Nova
therealet (6) - NANOOK, Epi, Sig, Dom, Sabie, Rej
Not voting: Sprityo, therealet, Enrique
Day 3:
Dom (5) - Tedexter, Mac, Creature, Sabie, Sig
Enrique (1) - Epignosis
Nova (1) - NANOOK
Sig (2) - Nova, Dom
Not Voting: sprityo, Enrique, Rej
fixed colors and added my town reads in cyansprityo wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:36 pm Day 1:
Creature (2) - Enrique, Nanook
Long Con (2) - TonyStarkPrime, Creature
Tedexter (1) - Novaseline
therealet (3) - Epi, Dom, Sabie
TonyStarkPrime (2) - Tedexter, Rej
No Lynch (1) - Sprityo
No vote: Long Con, Mac, Sig, therealet
Day 2:
NANOOK (2) - Mac, Creature
Rej (1) - Tedexter
Sig (1) - Nova
therealet (6) - NANOOK, Epi, Sig, Dom, Sabie, Rej
Not voting: Sprityo, therealet, Enrique
Day 3:
Dom (5) - Tedexter, Mac, Creature, Sabie, Sig
Enrique (1) - Epignosis
Nova (1) - NANOOK
Sig (2) - Nova, Dom
Not Voting: sprityo, Enrique, Rej
He strikes me as someone that considers certain cases bad and gets irritated by them. Probably couldn't stop himself from making the comment, same how he before that scare quoted "fluff", describing the early pings on Dom. It's genuine frustration but NAI I think.Tedexter wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:17 amThis is not a team mate defending a team mate, just confused town. Reads as genuine frustration, not because I would be right or wrong, but because I've said the stuff I said. Which is inherently townier. That's why Enrique is above the line right now.Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:43 pmIt's completely insane to me that the same people that spent four pages in an incoherent back and forth are now saying this about Dom. I don't mean this as a personal criticism, but seriously, pot, kettle? No? What exactly have been the more useful points?therealet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:16 pm+1 on the dom stuffTedexter wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:11 am I actually might be down with lynching Dom. I don't like the things he's focusing on. It's nothing substantiated, only things that are taken at face value. Superficial stuff. Like talking about activity. Sure, devoid of any context, that's scummy. But does that alone make someone scum though? hm.
I'm down to give sabie a town read as well, she has to put more work in to get a conclusive read.
I think I'm good sitting at nova - et - sabie town for now. With the further explanation that sabie is town for weak reasoning, I don't want my legacy to be "yeah, sabie is locked town". She doesn't really seem that interested in solving the game and I don't know whether that's influenced by IRL or because she has TMI. She seems more excited engaging in off-topic stuff then actually writing stuff out and figuring the game.
I'm going on et's hand with the sabie town read, although something holds me back from accepting it 100%.
its like hes focusing on useless points as a way to force content
Thing is, if I'm wrong on him then you're next in line :Pnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:39 pm Definitely think you're wrong about Rej. Dom's post does look like a joke, it's in the same vein as the joke posts he was throwing to Nanook about a baddie role. Feels like spew
Rej's post and read on Dom is exactly what I've been describing to you about civ Rej lol.