The Syndicate

I feel like bad Michelle slanks and good Michelle tries but doesn't always come across obvious town.

I don't know what to do with Michelle that doesn't slank but keeps making bad pushes. I guess that's what I'd expect from wolf Michelle that knew that was her meta and was trying to buck it.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:54 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:44 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:42 pmI was convinced he is lying.

Alright cool. You said that this was suspicious to you, that Dizzy lied about the role cop role. Why do you think a mafia Dizzy would lie about that? What do they gain from that lie?

Idk. What would i gain from accusing him based on a wrong perception?

Yikes this is bad

Why?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:57 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:54 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:44 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:42 pmI was convinced he is lying.

Alright cool. You said that this was suspicious to you, that Dizzy lied about the role cop role. Why do you think a mafia Dizzy would lie about that? What do they gain from that lie?

Idk. What would i gain from accusing him based on a wrong perception?

Yikes this is bad

Why?

You punted on the question and instead threw it back to jay with "why would I do this if I were bad" when imo the answer to that is fairly obvious.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:56 pm I feel like bad Michelle slanks and good Michelle tries but doesn't always come across obvious town.

I don't know what to do with Michelle that doesn't slank but keeps making bad pushes. I guess that's what I'd expect from wolf Michelle that knew that was her meta and was trying to buck it.

See, that's why my vote stays. Because you don't know what to do. You are not a bad push, you put the worst reads after you read the first 4 pages and didn't reevaluate. This is impossible.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:56 pm I feel like bad Michelle slanks and good Michelle tries but doesn't always come across obvious town.

I don't know what to do with Michelle that doesn't slank but keeps making bad pushes. I guess that's what I'd expect from wolf Michelle that knew that was her meta and was trying to buck it.

See, that's why my vote stays. Because you don't know what to do. You are not a bad push, you put the worst reads after you read the first 4 pages and didn't reevaluate. This is impossible.

What makes you think I'm done evaluating? I went to bed and now I'm at work.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:59 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:57 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:54 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:44 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:42 pmI was convinced he is lying.

Alright cool. You said that this was suspicious to you, that Dizzy lied about the role cop role. Why do you think a mafia Dizzy would lie about that? What do they gain from that lie?

Idk. What would i gain from accusing him based on a wrong perception?

Yikes this is bad

Why?

You punted on the question and instead threw it back to jay with "why would I do this if I were bad" when imo the answer to that is fairly obvious.

No it's not. Obvious is the need to obtain a mislynch. Why are we fighting here? Do you push now for my lynch, imagine my green flip, will you be happy for it?
Why were yesterday the equality until 3 mins before Eod and Epi, LC, Mac and you were at 2 votes ?
Maybe a wolf wasn't in immediate danger.

Did you think at it?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:01 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:59 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:56 pm I feel like bad Michelle slanks and good Michelle tries but doesn't always come across obvious town.

I don't know what to do with Michelle that doesn't slank but keeps making bad pushes. I guess that's what I'd expect from wolf Michelle that knew that was her meta and was trying to buck it.

See, that's why my vote stays. Because you don't know what to do. You are not a bad push, you put the worst reads after you read the first 4 pages and didn't reevaluate. This is impossible.

What makes you think I'm done evaluating? I went to bed and now I'm at work.

ok ping me with your final reads when uou catch up.

I am out for now. cya later.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:59 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:57 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:54 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:44 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:42 pmI was convinced he is lying.

Alright cool. You said that this was suspicious to you, that Dizzy lied about the role cop role. Why do you think a mafia Dizzy would lie about that? What do they gain from that lie?

Idk. What would i gain from accusing him based on a wrong perception?

Yikes this is bad

Why?

You punted on the question and instead threw it back to jay with "why would I do this if I were bad" when imo the answer to that is fairly obvious.

No it's not. Obvious is the need to obtain a mislynch. Why are we fighting here? Do you push now for my lynch, imagine my green flip, will you be happy for it?
Why were yesterday the equality until 3 mins before Eod and Epi, LC, Mac and you were at 2 votes ?
Maybe a wolf wasn't in immediate danger.

Did you think at it?

Sorry I don't understand the question

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

I noticed this as well.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

I noticed this as well.

Jesus fucking Christ

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

I noticed this as well.

Jesus fucking Christ

Jack, actually. Easy mistake to make as I'm a heretic and a socialist.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

I noticed this as well.

Jesus fucking Christ

Jack, actually. Easy mistake to make as I'm a heretic and a socialist.

umm.. what means socialist for you?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:11 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:59 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:57 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:54 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:44 pm

Alright cool. You said that this was suspicious to you, that Dizzy lied about the role cop role. Why do you think a mafia Dizzy would lie about that? What do they gain from that lie?

Idk. What would i gain from accusing him based on a wrong perception?

Yikes this is bad

Why?

You punted on the question and instead threw it back to jay with "why would I do this if I were bad" when imo the answer to that is fairly obvious.

No it's not. Obvious is the need to obtain a mislynch. Why are we fighting here? Do you push now for my lynch, imagine my green flip, will you be happy for it?
Why were yesterday the equality until 3 mins before Eod and Epi, LC, Mac and you were at 2 votes ?
Maybe a wolf wasn't in immediate danger.

Did you think at it?

Sorry I don't understand the question

Are you sure about that?

Yes I have read it like six times. Please rephrase.

Are you saying you think everyone who had votes on d1 is town?

I just feel like I'm missing the main point/implication of what you're saying

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:38 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

I noticed this as well.

Jesus fucking Christ

Jack, actually. Easy mistake to make as I'm a heretic and a socialist.

umm.. what means socialist for you?

Eating rich people, mostly.

Why is that anybody I suspect gets replaced?

Also I'm still like six pages behind.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

I noticed this as well.

Jesus fucking Christ

Jack, actually. Easy mistake to make as I'm a heretic and a socialist.

A man after my own heart

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:40 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:11 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:59 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:57 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:54 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:47 pm
Idk. What would i gain from accusing him based on a wrong perception?

Yikes this is bad

Why?

You punted on the question and instead threw it back to jay with "why would I do this if I were bad" when imo the answer to that is fairly obvious.

No it's not. Obvious is the need to obtain a mislynch. Why are we fighting here? Do you push now for my lynch, imagine my green flip, will you be happy for it?
Why were yesterday the equality until 3 mins before Eod and Epi, LC, Mac and you were at 2 votes ?
Maybe a wolf wasn't in immediate danger.

Did you think at it?

Sorry I don't understand the question

Are you sure about that?

I have to admit i didn't structured it well.
What is yellow is your question and my answer. I don't think is obvious.
From the green part is my oppinion.I think you beat around the bush about scum reading me and you should focus on more evident scum actions than my words, which can be (is not the first time) easy to misinterpret because of the way I am wording my posts.

I say I flip town and I wonder if you will be happy to see my green flip.

I show you that with 3 mins before Eod the wagons were tied at 2 votes. One idea is that no mafia was in danger. What do you think about this?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:52 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:38 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

I noticed this as well.

Jesus fucking Christ

Jack, actually. Easy mistake to make as I'm a heretic and a socialist.

umm.. what means socialist for you?

Eating rich people, mostly.

This is an incomplete view I'm affraid

No, I would not be happy if you flipped green. But I increasingly believe that is unlikely and you aren't giving me any better ideas about who to lynch.

I think there is some chance the d1 wagons were all town, but a fairly small one. I think it is more likely that LC or Epi was saved.

Huh.... wait something's not adding up. If LC or Epi was saved then Michelle isn't their teammate. Assuming it was a save means the team has to be either exactly LC and Epi, or one of them and Jay (who I find very unlikely to be scum here) -- assuming Nanook's claim is true.


If Michelle is scum maybe she's right about the wagons, or maybe LC or Epi is her partner and just got lucky.

I guess the save theory loses points due to Nanook being cleared.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:52 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:38 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:20 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:40 pm LC turned around pretty quickly onto the Michelle train.

I noticed this as well.

Jesus fucking Christ

Jack, actually. Easy mistake to make as I'm a heretic and a socialist.

umm.. what means socialist for you?

Eating rich people, mostly.

This is an incomplete view I'm affraid

Also, banging shoes on things.

So Michelle, maybe they were all town, and maybe you knew that all along.

Or you're hard defending your teammate LC

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:13 pm No, I would not be happy if you flipped green. But I increasingly believe that is unlikely and you aren't giving me any better ideas about who to lynch.

I think there is some chance the d1 wagons were all town, but a fairly small one. I think it is more likely that LC or Epi was saved.

Who and how saved them?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:46 pm Are you saying you think everyone who had votes on d1 is town?

I am not sure. But may be. What if they are all town? The tied wagons I mean.
I know I am villager. I see on you sparkles of towniness who are defeating my paranoia.
I town read LC and Epi.

I don't ask for replacements and I'm not going to start now, but I can't manage two games at once. Quarantine or not, those days are over. You'll have to settle for 50% Epignosis. Maybe 33%

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:18 pm So Michelle, maybe they were all town, and maybe you knew that all along.

You really want to see me dead? Nothing tells you why I don't give up?
I don't know they are all town, it's an hypothesis. I saw in many games that if no wolf is in danger they don't interfere with the mislynch.

How could I save anyone when I didn't even self press or switch my vote on Mac?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:22 pm I don't ask for replacements and I'm not going to start now, but I can't manage two games at once. Quarantine or not, those days are over. You'll have to settle for 50% Epignosis. Maybe 33%

33% from Inception Epi or 33% from the last game Epi?

[mention]Michelle[/mention] can you describe why you townread LC and Epi? And don't just tell me you've explained in previous posts, I just want your current reasoning in a few words.

Also, who does that leave in your poe, Jack and Jay? I particularly have a hard time seeing Jay as bad here especially with all the role hunting stuff that went over my head. Do you think he could be bad? If not you may need to reevaluate some townreads. Unless you haven't cleared Nanook, in which case you need to speak up.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:18 pm So Michelle, maybe they were all town, and maybe you knew that all along.

You really want to see me dead? Nothing tells you why I don't give up?
I don't know they are all town, it's an hypothesis. I saw in many games that if no wolf is in danger they don't interfere with the mislynch.

How could I save anyone when I didn't even self press or switch my vote on Mac?

Self pres? You had one vote.

I mean, I'd love to see a case for scum Jay if you have one. I guess he's capable of messing with us that much, especially with the confusing setup stuff. I'm just not feeling it, and I have a pretty good track record on sniffing out scum Jay.

I did have conflicting feelings about Dizzy before the replacement though. Maybe I'm too quick to eliminate him.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:19 pm Or you're hard defending your teammate LC

Look, I am villager. Maybe I am an idiot and I was too honestly answering at Jay's 'test' and I jumped to conclusions not enough thinked in the game, but you tunneling me and reffusing to think at anything else is not a good thing if you are villager.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:30 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:19 pm Or you're hard defending your teammate LC

Look, I am villager. Maybe I am an idiot and I was too honestly answering at Jay's 'test' and I jumped to conclusions not enough thinked in the game, but you tunneling me and reffusing to think at anything else is not a good thing if you are villager.

I'm not refusing to think. I am trying to find your townie spark and your posts just keep pinging me as bad. But I could be wrong and I'm trying to see different possibilities. I think there are varying chances for any of LC/Epi/Jack/Jay to be scum, and that's a dangerously large poe pool at this point so for now I am voting for the person I can point to the most reasons to suspect, and that's you.

Nut is 10:30 pm. I will answer in the morning.

It's mostly from how they worded some posts but to give examples I have to search.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:32 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:30 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:19 pm Or you're hard defending your teammate LC

Look, I am villager. Maybe I am an idiot and I was too honestly answering at Jay's 'test' and I jumped to conclusions not enough thinked in the game, but you tunneling me and reffusing to think at anything else is not a good thing if you are villager.

I'm not refusing to think. I am trying to find your townie spark and your posts just keep pinging me as bad. But I could be wrong and I'm trying to see different possibilities. I think there are varying chances for any of LC/Epi/Jack/Jay to be scum, and that's a dangerously large poe pool at this point so for now I am voting for the person I can point to the most reasons to suspect, and that's you.

My postcount speaks for me.Just saying.
And when I am scum I reread all posts to not receive this kind of heat.
And i am less jumpy at anyone for any scum move.

Remember how town mislynched GMan in the last game. Remember the hydra game in december when you were sure I am scum. I don't feel I have to give more self meta for you.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:14 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:27 am What's your POE pool Michelle?

all the Mac wagon is suspicious for me.

I should read all the thread to be sure for this but I skipped few pages.

You don't say.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:33 am

This is baseball. People don't wear makeup like that. Go to a football game.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:38 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:10 pm Probably doesn't kill MP:
Epignosis
Long Con

Not sure, nor is she, but possibly cleared by a cop hunt anyway:
nutella

Not sure period:
S~V~S

Don't see why they wouldn't kill MP:
Michelle
Nanook

if I were scum I wouldn't like to kill him personally. But i would let the NK for my scumpartener because I have yet little knowledge about everyone here.
On the other hand, him as veteran player is fear killed by every single player including you. Every sane mafia kills M+7 if he rands villager.

Your analysis is so wifom-y that it gives me goosebumbs.

Michelle didn't know how to answer the question in a straightforward way and ended the post by discrediting the foundation the idea rests upon.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:10 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:33 am

This is baseball. People don't wear makeup like that. Go to a football game.

S'not makeup. It's like the darkness inside my soul.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:15 pm

Snot makeup

Ew Jack wears snot makeup

Forgive me while I do little today. I just defended my master's thesis and my head is throbbing from Zoom meeting hell.

I haven't been able to follow Michelle's train of thought on this page and am not inclined to move my vote.

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