The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:08 pm**

Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:08 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:04 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:01 pm The game's about to end... don't know if I'm more relieved or disappointed.
If you are a civilian you are taking the most irrational approach I've witnessed. I would have voted Poison out or KZA out today. You weren't willing to work with that. Oh well.
Yeah, nothing really played out how I wanted. Sorry for this one civs but at least we all sucked together for most of the game

How did you want it to play out?

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:09 pm**

There Goes the Neighborhood

The Piano Estates HOA board had finally backed themselves into a corner. They filed yet another lawsuit against a homeowner for ignoring the mandate to put their house for sale. Nobody thought the eviction clause had any real teeth. Suing was the only way to prove that it did.

Everyone currently engaged in legal action with the HOA had waited to be sued. This fact was not lost on the HOA's attorney on retainer. He was sweating bullets after reviewing any and all possible related cases. The outlook was grim, yet the HOA board persisted. They felt bound to uphold what they believed to be the only course of action available to them. Inaction was invalid in their minds.

At the beckoning of Flamini, there was yet again an eviction vote. With so few homeowners remaining with voting rights, the votes were getting narrower and narrower. Robert Vitale was the latest victim to the Lenker brothers' cockamamie eviction clause.

A few days later, each of the board members were surprised to be served on their front porches with papers. At long last, they were the ones being sued.

Each of them read the documents in bewilderment. With the latest eviction vote, Piano Estates officially had more homeowners under mandatory eviction status than there were members in good standing. The board had essentially rendered themselves invalid, as quorum could no longer be reached per the covenants.

Not only that, but each homeowner under mandatory eviction orders had banded together to form a class action lawsuit against the HOA as an entity engaging in illegal practices and erroneous lawsuits against members, as well as against the board members as individuals for failing to perform their duty to look out for and act in the best interest of the HOA and its members by ignoring a legally dubious clause in the covenants that likely held no legal standing whatsoever.

The circular firing squad of lawsuits ruined a few people financially, but it also ruined the spirit of Piano Estates. The Lenker brothers really had believed that their fellow developer was telling the truth when he told them about the rumors of organized crime members moving into their neighborhood. Too bad the Lenkers, as developers themselves, were blind to the fact that developers are almost universally full of shit and not to be trusted.

The HOA board and members lost sight of this simple truth as well, and it cost many of them dearly. Property values declined, relationships soured, and Piano Estates earned a reputation for being a difficult place to live.

When the bad guys exist only in your head, everybody loses.

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Enrique has been evicted. He was:

ROBERT VITALE, a civvie. You are such a kind neighbor that an elderly homeowner in Piano Estates has asked you to be their proxy vote any time the need arises. As such, your vote is worth two each day.

The game has ended.

Nobody has won.

The entire game was built around one premise: If the 'No Eviction' option wins the poll in any phase before the number of evicted players outnumbers the number of players remaining in the game, everyone wins.

@Alison
@chardonnay
@Enrique
@Epignosis
@fingersplints
@Grogu
@JaggedJimmyJay
@KZA
@Long Con
@Marmot
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Poison
@Scirrus

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:09 pm**

I do maintain that if there was no kill we had basically nothing to work with. If there was, and it was just Poison and rey missing it, then lol.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:09 pm**

what the fuck

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:09 pm**

Wow.... wow..... lmfao!!

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:10 pm**

I will not let ANY OF YOU forget what happened tonight ahahhahaha

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:10 pm**

Oh well.

Sorry to deny what was the right answer, @Enrique. As I’ve said though:

Don’t really care.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:11 pm**

Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:10 pm I will not let ANY OF YOU forget what happened tonight ahahhahaha

I don't care. I signed up for Mafia. This wasn't Mafia. My time was wasted.

That's like sitting down for Uno and the host breaks out Catan.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:11 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:09 pm When the bad guys exist only in your head, everybody loses.

this whole thing was a psychological.... social morality lesson

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:11 pm**

wow

my hunch was actually right

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:11 pm**

As in: the result of this game is irrelevant and I am over it.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:12 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:11 pm As in: the result of this game is irrelevant and I am over it.

Yep.

I don't sign up for games against the host.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:12 pm**

I wonder how long it took our dear departed corpses to begin to come to terms with the idea that something just isn’t right.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:13 pm**

I'm half expecting G-Man to still say he's fucking with us.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:13 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:12 pm I wonder how long it took our dear departed corpses to begin to come to terms with the idea that something just isn’t right.

I was told there wasn't spec chat so I only followed the flips

Which I'm glad I did cause uh

Mean words

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:14 pm**

This is proof I will never get a town win on Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:14 pm**

i didn't play so i can't blame yall for being upset but i think experiments like this are kind of cool every once in a while, G just fooled you all

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:14 pm**

Thank you fingersplints!

Greatly apopreciated!

Now it has happened, folks. One for the books.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm**

*appreciated

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm**

"What if everyone is town" is a funny idea but annoying and a waste of time jn practice

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm "What if everyone is town" is a funny idea but annoying and a waste of time jn practice

i've toyed with "what if everyone is mafia" ideas lol

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm "What if everyone is town" is a funny idea but annoying and a waste of time jn practice

Or at least make it a smaller game so not as much time is wasted

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:16 pm**

he was making a point with the flavor too lol

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:16 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm "What if everyone is town" is a funny idea but annoying and a waste of time jn practice
i've toyed with "what if everyone is mafia" ideas lol

Thats a much less annoying idea imo

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:16 pm**

Truth be told I’m not mad. @G-Man, I’m not mad.

I came to terms with the fact that 1) this was possible and 2) I would never be comfortable actually trying it so whatever days ago.

We move on.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:16 pm**

Idk i died d1 so its whatever

Just seems like a waste of time to me

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:17 pm**

it's like uhhh what's some analogous media where everyone is set up to be paranoid that theres a mole but there really isnt and you just watch everyone turn against each other

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:17 pm**

I think it was a fine experiment. It wasn't just a small game but also a low-activity one to begin, and it created a lot of frustration but ultimately I prefer this to just having a powerless or complete inactive mafia. We could've pulled it off.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:18 pm**

that's two extremely strange and bizarre and unorthodox endgames on the site within a few hours of each other wowee

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:18 pm**

PLAYER ROLES:

Alison / chardonnay:

You are LUCA FONTANA, a civvie. You were recently forced into retirement from the police force for a few too many instances of bad paperwork. You're sure of your instincts, even if they aren't the best. Each night you can check one player of your choice to see if they are mafia. You have a 50% chance of the result being correct.

Enrique:

You are ROBERT VITALE, a civvie. You are such a kind neighbor that an elderly homeowner in Piano Estates has asked you to be their proxy vote any time the need arises. As such, your vote is worth two each day.

Epignosis:

You are FRANK CALABRESE, a civvie. You are the neighborhood handyman and a jack of all trades. You have three one-shot abilities- a block, a protect, and vote strip. Each night, you may choose to use one of these one-shot powers until all three have been used up.

fingersplints:

You are SYLVIA PUGLIESE, a civvie. You are the neighborhood hottie capable of stopping traffic. Each night you use your good looks to stop any player of your choice in their tracks, blocking them from using their power for the night.

Grogu:

You are VIC MAGAZINO, a civvie. You are a bodyguard. Each night you may select one player to protect. All powers used on that player during the night will hit you instead.

JaggedJimmyJay:

You are MICHAEL GAGLIARDI, a civvie. You are the cowardly neighbor in Piano Estates. As such, you will pick one person each night to hide behind. The first power submitted against you hit them instead. If a second (or third, fourth, etc) power targets you on the same night, it will hit you.

KZA / reywaS:

You are PHILLIP RICCI, a civvie. You are the newly appointed president of the Piano Estates Homeowners Association. You have the ability to halt one eviction from taking place. To do so, you must PM the host before the eviction vote deadline. You may not submit a conditional request that is contingent upon a certain player being the poll leader. Your decision must be a full-on committment to stop the eviction no matter who is leading in the poll.

Long Con:

You are MARTIN DELUCA, a civvie. You are an up-and-comer who is trying to fit in. As such, you tend to be a copycat of everyone else around you in order to fit in. Each day phase, you may select one player whose power you would like to copy. After the eviction post, you will be told what power you have copied and you may use it on any other player you like that night only.

Marmot:

You are VINCE GAROFALO, a civvie. You are newly retired and bored out of your mind. As such, you have taken up people-watching. Each night, you can watch any player of your choice, thereby learning the names of any players targeting them that night.

Nanook:

You are ANTHONY TESTA, a civvie. You are a successful doctor, and you can use your skills to protect one player each night. Your protection will shield your target from any other powers targetting them that night.

Poison:

You are SOFIA MANCINI, a civvie. You've listened to too many true-crime and cold-case podcasts and now think you know enough to be an amateur sleuth. Each night, you can track one player of your choice and learn the name of any player they used a power on that night.

Scirrus:

You are DOMINIC MARASCO, a civvie. You don't want any trouble in the neighborhood, so you take it upon yourself to patrol the neighborhood from time to time while armed. You are a one-shot civvie-aligned vigilante. You must use your one-shot power on or before Night 3 o else you will be rendered vanilla.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:19 pm**

This is, to be clear, the epitome of a bastard game. So if folks are upset I don’t blame them either. There was a time when I’d have been pissed.

I’m getting too old for this.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:19 pm**

imo declare your games are bastard before I replace into them

I was working under the impression that this wasn't a bastard game and "everyone is town" is a bastard mechanic

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:20 pm**

I appreciate all the people who put their honest effort into solving the game. Hope to play another sometime in the future.

Can't say I'm not bummed about the outcome, but it is what is.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:20 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:12 pm I wonder how long it took our dear departed corpses to begin to come to terms with the idea that something just isn’t right.

After I died and nokills kept happening I abandoned the idea that mafia were blocked - it was too much of a coincidence. I theorized that maybe the mafia team had no nightkills and had to win via elimination, or they had a secret ability that allowed them to win conditionally (like my own role in GOC). But I didn't expect this.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:22 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:16 pm Truth be told I’m not mad. @G-Man, I’m not mad.

I came to terms with the fact that 1) this was possible and 2) I would never be comfortable actually trying it so whatever days ago.

We move on.

I will never be angry with G-Man.

I do, however, feel like my time was wasted when I was busy with GOC, and (foolishly) involved in two other games.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:23 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm "What if everyone is town" is a funny idea but annoying and a waste of time jn practice

The worst thing about this is that I'll have to hear "everyone is so dang townie! what if everyone is town and there's no mafia and the host is jerking our chain?" which I hear in every closed setup role madness game I play and shoot down every time because it's silly.

Except now it actually happened so people will take it seriously lol

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:23 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:19 pm This is, to be clear, the epitome of a bastard game. So if folks are upset I don’t blame them either. There was a time when I’d have been pissed.

I’m getting too old for this.

Remember that time recently on Discord when I told you that I only ever created one game that I would readily consider 'bastard'? You signed up for it.

I have much more to say about this whole thing. I hope you will read it as I am able to post it and take it in stride.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:23 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:19 pm This is, to be clear, the epitome of a bastard game. So if folks are upset I don’t blame them either. There was a time when I’d have been pissed.

I’m getting too old for this.

I'm not upset I just think bastard games should be declared bastard. My solving was oriented around the basic idea that there was a malicious force working behind the scenes in the night.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:25 pm**

I might sneak a W onto everyone’s spreadsheet slots when nobody is looking.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:25 pm**

I am strongly pro this setup and anti labeling this mafia and anyone who disagrees should go change their vote in the what mafia is poll

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:26 pm**

This was closer to a sandwich than a mafia game.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:27 pm**

So now we have a game explicitly declared bastard that contained no bastard elements and a game marketed as simply "mafia" that contains no mafia

I suggest we create a Game of Champions next year where only players who have not won a game on the Syndicate in 2021 get to sign up.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:28 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:27 pm So now we have a game explicitly declared bastard that contained no bastard elements and a game marketed as simply "mafia" that contains no mafia

I suggest we create a Game of Champions next year where only players who have not won a game on the Syndicate in 2021 get to sign up.

That leaves you out.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:28 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm "What if everyone is town" is a funny idea but annoying and a waste of time jn practice
The worst thing about this is that I'll have to hear "everyone is so dang townie! what if everyone is town and there's no mafia and the host is jerking our chain?" which I hear in every closed setup role madness game I play and shoot down every time because it's silly.

Except now it actually happened so people will take it seriously lol

Twice at the same time, even!

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:29 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:27 pm So now we have a game explicitly declared bastard that contained no bastard elements and a game marketed as simply "mafia" that contains no mafia

I suggest we create a Game of Champions next year where only players who have not won a game on the Syndicate in 2021 get to sign up.

lol

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:29 pm**

A Game of Losers? I'm in! I'd be great at it

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:30 pm**

not even the 1st time I've been in a game where everyone is town

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:32 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:28 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:23 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:15 pm "What if everyone is town" is a funny idea but annoying and a waste of time jn practice
The worst thing about this is that I'll have to hear "everyone is so dang townie! what if everyone is town and there's no mafia and the host is jerking our chain?" which I hear in every closed setup role madness game I play and shoot down every time because it's silly.

Except now it actually happened so people will take it seriously lol
Twice at the same time, even!

Well, GOC didn't have a mafia in the traditional sense but there was a hostile 3P making nightkills that town had to try and stop so it was at least a proper game. This is just weird.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:33 pm**

I'm glad tutuu isn't playing in this game or she'd have a fucking novel prepared about this.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:34 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:33 pm I'm glad tutuu isn't playing in this game or she'd have a fucking novel prepared about this.

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