The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:30 am**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:44 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:41 pm it seems like we could also just use the vig shot as a sort of co-yeet unless there's a timelimit on it
I don't like co-yeet since it doesn't allow time to adjust from the new information from the flip. It is better to have adequate time between the shot and EoD so that we can react to the shot today.

I think the shot target only flips at EOD, along with the exe target.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:32 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:12 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:12 pm I don’t think ratrug was “so obviously townie” but at the same time I do think it’s suspicious how many votes they got and last minute too. I wouldn’t be surprised if mafia voted there, but to go for someone “so obviously townie” as you say, there would have had to been a reason. Who were the others in danger? Was it quin and Seanzie? Was the ratrug push a save
I don't really care about the reasons it's just an open wolfing read to vote him there as Martin imo

I think Martin is town. It's really not out of his scumrange to do that, and the other aspects of his play are pretty textbook Martin town to me.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:35 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:19 pm Alison not ending on Falcon day 1 is still just so bad tbh

why? by EOD1 ratrug only had 2 votes including me, he was never getting exed. if I'm scum with falcon the bus is safe since it doesn't affect anything; obviously you can't use it to clear me, but I'm not sure how me not having my vote on falcon at EOD is suspicious. I had falcon as my #2 suspect and wanted ratrug/falcon wagons, and both nightkills heavily townread me; I don't see why this is a big deal for you.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:35 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:21 pm Yeah fair its just not helpful for me

I have associative reads on why Kyle is not W/W with falcon.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:37 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:06 am Either it hits mafia or it confirms her and pseudo confirms martin which is two clears for the price of one

Yeah I'd probably shoot her atp

I'm ok with this, just give me time to get my legacy in order. I'm pretty sure I want Quin dead, still trying to sort out Seanzie and you (leaning town on him atm but unclear, because he veers between townie mindset and heavily scumsiding; as for you you've been like POE since yesterday and nothing has changed that)

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:40 am**

Right now I'm thinking two mafia in [Nanook, Seanzie, Quin] with Esooa as the most likely deepwolf out of Falcon's wagon (and you should probably kill her if the POE is dead, you're at F3 and Esooa is alive).

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:42 am**

I could see a Nook/Quin team trying to push the shot off Quin I guess. But that team probably can't win the game unless you guys seriously throw hard so I'm not massively worried about it as long as one of our two kills today is on Nook/Quin.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:42 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:37 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:06 am Either it hits mafia or it confirms her and pseudo confirms martin which is two clears for the price of one

Yeah I'd probably shoot her atp
I'm ok with this, just give me time to get my legacy in order. I'm pretty sure I want Quin dead, still trying to sort out Seanzie and you (leaning town on him atm but unclear, because he veers between townie mindset and heavily scumsiding; as for you you've been like POE since yesterday and nothing has changed that)

Why is everyone ok with my shooting them? If you are town, I die, so I really don’t understand the “let me get my legacy in order” posts.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:45 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:26 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:34 pm So I’m thinking if the mafia chose me that means I’m likely wrong about a couple things lol not to figure out what.
I suspect mafia chose you because you're the most obvious town. There's too much WIFOM to just choose the person with the worse reads, plus they'll likely out and ask the town to vote on their shot choice anyway.

The group is saying all different people and at the end of the day I have to make the decision. That is where my personal suspicions would come into play.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:47 am**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:42 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:37 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:06 am Either it hits mafia or it confirms her and pseudo confirms martin which is two clears for the price of one

Yeah I'd probably shoot her atp
I'm ok with this, just give me time to get my legacy in order. I'm pretty sure I want Quin dead, still trying to sort out Seanzie and you (leaning town on him atm but unclear, because he veers between townie mindset and heavily scumsiding; as for you you've been like POE since yesterday and nothing has changed that)
Why is everyone ok with my shooting them? If you are town, I die, so I really don’t understand the “let me get my legacy in order” posts.

There is no difference. My understanding is that to prevent host availability variance the flips happen at EOD. So if you shoot me, you'll die, I become outed town, and I get NKed immediately.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:47 am**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:45 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:26 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:34 pm So I’m thinking if the mafia chose me that means I’m likely wrong about a couple things lol not to figure out what.
I suspect mafia chose you because you're the most obvious town. There's too much WIFOM to just choose the person with the worse reads, plus they'll likely out and ask the town to vote on their shot choice anyway.
The group is saying all different people and at the end of the day I have to make the decision. That is where my personal suspicions would come into play.

I think most people are saying either Quin (obvious POE shot) or me (get rid of possible deepwolf, follow her reads if she turns out to be town).

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:57 am**

Well as I’ve posted you as my most trusted, it would be nonsensical to shoot you, because if I am right I die, then as you said you will get nightkilled. I’m really not going to entertain that option.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:01 am**

If you don't like that then shoot Quin.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:02 am**

Well that’s probably where we are at

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:04 am**

Hosts aren’t around now it doesn’t seem, and I’m going to sleep so I guess the shooting will happen tomorrow. That’ll give @MartinGG99 some time to chime in.
Probably just assume discussion should center around a lynch target who is not quin at this point

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:08 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:47 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:45 am
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:26 am
fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:34 pm So I’m thinking if the mafia chose me that means I’m likely wrong about a couple things lol not to figure out what.
I suspect mafia chose you because you're the most obvious town. There's too much WIFOM to just choose the person with the worse reads, plus they'll likely out and ask the town to vote on their shot choice anyway.
The group is saying all different people and at the end of the day I have to make the decision. That is where my personal suspicions would come into play.
I think most people are saying either Quin (obvious POE shot) or me (get rid of possible deepwolf, follow her reads if she turns out to be town).

I really don't like that Alison offered up two names like this, one of which is her while she is pretty clearly a target that Fingersplints is unlikely to shoot. Also, while I wouldn't put Alison as a top choice in town's collective PoE, she is in my PoE, and I think she is in enough other's that describing Quin as "obvious PoE" and herself as "possible deepwolf" is not necessarily representative of town's thoughts.

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:19 am**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:08 pm @ts account no one is cleared in my books because they say they wouldn’t do something. I get that other people have said it’s unlikely too, but you aren’t confirmed by all means.
And you can say “we can worry about this later.” But I might not have that option.
Part of me thinks I should shoot Quin as that is the biggest suspect, but the other part of me thinks I should shoot someone else while you all lynch Quin today anyway. I could get a mafia or worst case scenario clear someone not with some suspicion. Thinking nanook? Dunno

or maybe we can not kill quin at all. i'd like that a lot.

i get that you want to be diplomatic or whatever but this road is only going to net you a dead civilian. the only question is whether it's you via shooting me or me via lynch.

gth i'm immune, whos on your shooting shortlist?

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:22 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:17 pm Quin doing literally nothing for the entirety of day 2 is deserving of death, that's just my opinion on it. They didn't even try to figure this stuff out. Martin's vote was really bad but I believe the thing Nanook said so we probably go Martin only if Alison is wolf? Though I want her to refresh her read on him

you can actually kiss my ass

Posted: **Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:24 am**