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Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:25 am
by Kylemii
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:12 amI don't think Kyle's trying to spin things, I don't think he's even capable of doing that.
ok wow
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:25 am
by Marmot
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:24 am
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:14 amI'm not sure why he says our "best case send" is me & you, and that our realistic send is himself and one of me/you. I can't tell if that's b/c he thinks we're wolfy or if he things we're towny enough to find the wolves down there. He's kinda hedgy and kinda just "here".
cus i think mog is town based on his AoE and i know i'm town and you two are what's left
What do you make of the players in the loser's bracket then?
I know we have to send two people down no matter what, but I'd at least like to hope there isn't still two wolves up here and we've failed miserably.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:27 am
by Marmot
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:25 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:12 amI don't think Kyle's trying to spin things, I don't think he's even capable of doing that.
ok wow
I meant this in the "I don't think Kyle would ever intentionally gaslight someone" kind of way.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:27 am
by Marmot
I can't believe I said that after Stardew Mafia...
You lied to me so many times there!!!
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:28 am
by Kylemii
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:27 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:25 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:12 amI don't think Kyle's trying to spin things, I don't think he's even capable of doing that.
ok wow
I meant this in the "I don't think Kyle would ever intentionally gaslight someone" kind of way.
oh. no. i only lie in the sexy-cool way.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:30 am
by Kylemii
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:27 am
I can't believe I said that after Stardew Mafia...
You lied to me so many times there!!!
aside from lying about being nanook and peeing my pants i don't think i ever lied in that game, i don't think i even posted anything on topic
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:30 am
by Kylemii
who is in the loser's bracket? tony, tim, gman, and....?
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:33 am
by Marmot
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:30 am
who is in the loser's bracket? tony, tim, gman, and....?
DaisyCludwfnwiufnwiefwe
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:37 am
by Kylemii
ruok
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:44 am
by Kylemii
tbh the other bracket is infinitely more shady than this one
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:46 am
by Kylemii
well not infinitely lol
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:57 am
by Kylemii
i do not remember nor have the energy to look up any of the other bracket peeps involvement in made's stuff, i feel like that would probably be important. each of tim, tony, and gman have pinged me in the past at some point, and i will probably spend night 3 looking into them. i know that's not really an answer lol. daisy cloud is likewise notable that i just don't remember them.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:59 am
by Kylemii
Marmot could be mafia but for real if he's mafia and he responded to "are you mafia" with "okay this time i'm mafia ^_^" i don't care that much if he wins cus it'll at least be funny
but also i think he'll be easy to sort out once the tribes merge.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:07 am
by Kylemii
i think the optimal choice here is me and HK
HK is either mafia and going to tier 2 gives opportunity for those guys to send it, or he's town and motivated to go after tim and tony which i think will be good for solving that area of the game, and lead to an endgame with as much to work with as possible
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:07 am
by Kylemii
or HK is a secret 3rd party :0000
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:10 am
by Kylemii
i just remembered the post limit. this is my reminder to my future self that i have, i think just 40 posts left
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:04 am
by hollowkatt
I have about 80 posts and about 8 hours to use them in
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:58 pm
by hollowkatt
I haven't done any of the reading I said I'd do, just fyi
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:59 pm
by Marmot
What if we just force a four-way and see what the wolves do?
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:03 pm
by hollowkatt
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:59 pm
What if we just force a four-way and see what the wolves do?
Ok
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:07 pm
by Marmot
[VOTE:
Unvote HK] aubergine
There better not be two wolves in here right now. :wowee:
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:09 pm
by Marmot
I'm gonna go actually read the night phase now.
Also, I've got plenty of posts to spare in the event I'm sent down.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:20 pm
by Kylemii
if you force a tie the wolves will save me to frame, (or if you suspect me I guess you can view it as saving me because I am wolves?)
what would you learn otherwise
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:23 pm
by Kylemii
I think I actually just don't like the tie idea in this circumstance? that just lets the wolves determine the shape of the endgame without acting in public
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:24 pm
by Kylemii
if we're doing tie strats I propose that it be a 3 way tie for second place with me @ 1st.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:32 pm
by Marmot
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:23 pm
I think I actually just don't like the tie idea in this circumstance? that just lets the wolves determine the shape of the endgame without acting in public
Sure,
I just think unless we have a really strong idea of who to send down, then we could gather more information by forcing the wolves to make a decision.
But yeah, I guess with as much mystery and lack of knowledge of optimal gameplay, maybe that's just adding too many variables for us to think about when we can just opt for a simpler approach.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:32 pm
by Kylemii
I'd we allow a tie the other guys are gonna be pissed. Tim is probably reading this right now pissing his pants in anger or delight.
My tendency to post in small bite sized chunks instead of giant unreadable garbage essays that no one really reads is going to be the death of me, I just used like 5 posts to say "ties probably bad please kill me"
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:34 pm
by Marmot
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:32 pm
I'd we allow a tie the other guys are gonna be pissed. Tim is probably reading this right now pissing his pants in anger or delight.
My tendency to post in small bite sized chunks instead of giant unreadable garbage essays that no one really reads is going to be the death of me, I just used like 5 posts to say "ties probably bad please kill me"
Short posts are underrated, death to wallposters!!
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:35 pm
by Marmot
Kyle, is tim your wolf-teammate again?
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:37 pm
by Kylemii
I mean the bottom line is, if this game reaches single elimination and I'm not dead or somehow widely townread the game ends in a loss. it's the same scenario as in Ants mafia except this time I don't have to argue with Alison about it.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:42 pm
by Kylemii
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:35 pm
Kyle, is tim your wolf-teammate again?
I only have one teammate and his name is Jesus Christ
prayerhandsemoji
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm
by hollowkatt
I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm
by hollowkatt
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:42 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:35 pm
Kyle, is tim your wolf-teammate again?
I only have one teammate and his name is Jesus Christ
prayerhandsemoji

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:44 pm
by Kylemii
[VOTE:
Kylemii] aubergine
and now I really gotta actually try and conserve my posts lol.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:45 pm
by Kylemii
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm
I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens
it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:49 pm
by hollowkatt
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:45 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm
I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens
it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.
real talk: Do you think you get chopped over TSP? How about over Daisy? Tim?
Like if you and I go down it'll be me, you, tim, daisy, tsp, and g-man down there.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:49 pm
by Marmot
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:42 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:35 pm
Kyle, is tim your wolf-teammate again?
I only have one teammate and his name is Jesus Christ
prayerhandsemoji

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:50 pm
by Marmot
Oh, that escalated quickly.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:51 pm
by hollowkatt
spoiler that shit mate! lolol
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:52 pm
by Marmot
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:45 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm
I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens
it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.
real talk: Do you think you get chopped over TSP? How about over Daisy? Tim?
Like if you and I go down it'll be me, you, tim, daisy, tsp, and g-man down there.
We do get three chops tonight.
I hope that TSP is one of them and tim is another (we'll see if my night-read changes that, but that's where I'm at now). I'm currently flexible on the third, and it's kinda hard to figure out without being there and interacting.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:54 pm
by Marmot
I kinda wanna go down now just in case we fuck it up. I hate LYLO.
Actually, I like LYLO, it's just that wolves always win when I'm alive at LYLO.

Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:55 pm
by hollowkatt
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:54 pm
I kinda wanna go down now just in case we fuck it up. I hate LYLO.
Actually, I like LYLO, it's just that wolves always win when I'm alive at LYLO.
Lets go you and me my furry little friend
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:58 pm
by Marmot
Maybe it's just Mog and Daisy and I'm being pocketed to hell and back :O
Re: Double Elimination Mafia n2
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:59 pm
by Marmot
That was in response to this series of posts.
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:02 pm
I think Marmot is town.
I appreciated that he gave a list of players and where and what flips and it was colored coded.
I like that gman did something similar down here too.
don't but daisy me. I know scum can do that sort of thing, but it's nice and helpful and pro-town.
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:17 pm
btw, that isn't the only reason I like Marmot. so don't but daisy me later
Re: Double Elimination Mafia n2
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:01 pm
by hollowkatt
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:59 pm
That was in response to this series of posts.
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:02 pm
I think Marmot is town.
I appreciated that he gave a list of players and where and what flips and it was colored coded.
I like that gman did something similar down here too.
don't but daisy me. I know scum can do that sort of thing, but it's nice and helpful and pro-town.
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:17 pm
btw, that isn't the only reason I like Marmot. so don't but daisy me later
I'd buy it actually
Re: Double Elimination Mafia n2
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:08 pm
by Marmot
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:01 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:59 pm
That was in response to this series of posts.
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:02 pm
I think Marmot is town.
I appreciated that he gave a list of players and where and what flips and it was colored coded.
I like that gman did something similar down here too.
don't but daisy me. I know scum can do that sort of thing, but it's nice and helpful and pro-town.
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:17 pm
btw, that isn't the only reason I like Marmot. so don't but daisy me later
I'd buy it actually
There's still the part where tim and Daisy were the only two to vote Made of the living players.
In general, I do find Daisy's play very townie. She has had a couple outbursts that take away from the productivity a little bit, but she does appear to be hunting.
Mog might be pocketing me though, but he also seemed the most interested in hunting of anyone in the WB today. Maybe that's a good reason to send him down lol.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:11 pm
by Marmot
hk, what do you think of daisy and tim, and their votes for Made? Did you voice that somewhere already?
Re: Double Elimination Mafia n2
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:12 pm
by hollowkatt
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:08 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:01 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:59 pm
That was in response to this series of posts.
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:02 pm
I think Marmot is town.
I appreciated that he gave a list of players and where and what flips and it was colored coded.
I like that gman did something similar down here too.
don't but daisy me. I know scum can do that sort of thing, but it's nice and helpful and pro-town.
DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:17 pm
btw, that isn't the only reason I like Marmot. so don't but daisy me later
I'd buy it actually
There's still the part where tim and Daisy were the only two to vote Made of the living players.
In general, I do find Daisy's play very townie. She has had a couple outbursts that take away from the productivity a little bit, but she does appear to be hunting.
Mog might be pocketing me though, but he also seemed the most interested in hunting of anyone in the WB today. Maybe that's a good reason to send him down lol.
Yeah, I get that on Tim/Daisy. I like Mog as town for about the same reason you do.
I'm paranoid that you're pocketing me ngl. Could it just be Kyle/TSP?
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:14 pm
by Kylemii
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:49 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:45 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:43 pm
I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens
it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.
real talk: Do you think you get chopped over TSP? How about over Daisy? Tim?
Like if you and I go down it'll be me, you, tim, daisy, tsp, and g-man down there.
I mean I hope to get chopped alongside those 2 of those people.
the problem isn't anything to do with that suspicion it's that I've not really done anything to remove myself from the PoE, if we make it to the final 5 with 2 mafia alive, if even one town person thinks I'm mafia and votes as such then that's just game over, right? and despite there being only a thin case against me, there's not much of a case for me either. I can't really point to anything that I've done that I could only do as town because I've basically only been a cell phone boy for this entire game up until now, and also I guess, including now.
Re: Double Elimination Mafia d3
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:16 pm
by hollowkatt
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:11 pm
hk, what do you think of daisy and tim, and their votes for Made? Did you voice that somewhere already?
I haven't said anything about that, no.
I think it looks better for them than not. This isn't the kind of setup where you can get a lot of credit for sending down a wolf as wolf. You can get more credit chopping the wolf in LB if you are a wolf I think.
I swear to god TSP has to be a wolf here, look at the vote count that chops Made