Re: Akemi Homura Mafia [Night 2]
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:33 pm
I wanna feel important!
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Vanity is the excessive belief in one's own abilities or attractiveness to others. Prior to the 14th century it did not have such narcissistic undertones, and merely meant futility.
Por is clear. CRich not yet for me.Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:50 pm @MacDougall
@Paopan
What you two thinking?
Is CRichard and Por for sure clear?
CRichard and Wilgy theoretically could have been doing W/W wagon day 1.
Now with the wagon last day, Paopan called Por scum and voted for them, Wilgy voted for Paopan but then voted for Por to save them self.
Could that be W/W wagon?
What’s more likely?
I wanna say CRichard is the more likely one to not be W/W but I want a second opinion on this.
I read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:29 pmCould I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:24 pm Yes they can both still be mafia.
Are they? Probably not.
I feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:04 pmI read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:29 pmCould I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:24 pm Yes they can both still be mafia.
Are they? Probably not.
Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.
this is a dogshit post if me and wilgy are partnered lolDrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:41 pmI see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:38 pm sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.
killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play
[VOTE: CR] aubergine
say some words about MightyQfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:15 pm MissC, Pao
I'll look at other worlds after those two flips. Feels like the solve tho
Interesting that you're upset at the Sig kill, of which Wilgy was a part, but don't push his slotMiss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:14 pmthis is a dogshit post if me and wilgy are partnered lolDrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:41 pmI see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:38 pm sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.
killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play
[VOTE: CR] aubergine
I've got nothing really, they're pretty firmly null for me rnMiss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:17 pmsay some words about MightyQfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:15 pm MissC, Pao
I'll look at other worlds after those two flips. Feels like the solve tho
the way he self pres'd is perfectly acceptable as town. (it was 2/2/2, he was the second wagon, and he was voting the third already.) i didn't and still don't really consider him responsible for sig's death in the same way as gav and paofalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:17 pmInteresting that you're upset at the Sig kill, of which Wilgy was a part, but don't push his slotMiss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:14 pmthis is a dogshit post if me and wilgy are partnered lolDrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:41 pmI see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:38 pm sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.
killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play
[VOTE: CR] aubergine
See, I agree that his self pres wasn't damming in and if itself, and I said as much.Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:19 pmthe way he self pres'd is perfectly acceptable as town. (it was 2/2/2, he was the second wagon, and he was voting the third already.) i didn't and still don't really consider him responsible for sig's death in the same way as gav and paofalcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:17 pmInteresting that you're upset at the Sig kill, of which Wilgy was a part, but don't push his slotMiss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:14 pmthis is a dogshit post if me and wilgy are partnered lolDrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:41 pmI see... Well CR pinged me earlier. I'll entertain that.Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 9:38 pm sig is a fucking insane kill here. i'm not voting gavial or mac today because i'm not knocking out the most active players on d1 of a mountainous game. CR almost qualifies for this even though i scumlean him because he is participating in the thread and is helpful for us if town, but i'm still fine killing him today.
killing sig makes no god damn sense. cool, 20% chance we hit a wolf with a completely blind shot. if we hit a town we literally gain the least information possible and we just lose a kill for no reason. it's a complete unforced error. killing sig is a completely -ev play
[VOTE: CR] aubergine
OK. I'm not diametrically opposed to you being town.Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:25 pm i would imagine wilgy didn't want to push me because i was pretty universally townread up until eod2 and i was townreading him and the simplest thing to do is just let the universally townread player who is townreading you keep doing so.
i had like 4 people at least that i preferred over wilgy yesterday and was clearly absent from the game for a while so i wasn't really going to reevaluate yesterday. had he stayed alive and we flipped porscha town obviously today is a different case.
I kinda just feel like she's town tbh. I've felt Paopan was pretty anti town most of the game.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:12 pmI feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:04 pmI read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:29 pmCould I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:24 pm Yes they can both still be mafia.
Are they? Probably not.
Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.
Take a look and see if you notice it as well
Well, Pao is in my solve too. Thoughts on MightyQ?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:40 pmI kinda just feel like she's town tbh. I've felt Paopan was pretty anti town most of the game.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:12 pmI feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:04 pmI read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:29 pmCould I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:24 pm Yes they can both still be mafia.
Are they? Probably not.
Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.
Take a look and see if you notice it as well
By hard bussed each other, do you mean we are both wolf and hard scum read each other as a tactic that backfired into us being in a tied vote?Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:25 pma wilgy/porscha team hard bussed each other resulting in wilgy's death when they had opportunities to try and save him (they were competing wagons but probably with enough time in the day to have done something) so it looks unlikely, though if i get outside of the obvious poe (pao, you, MQ) somebody HAS to be bussing and i might come back to porscha being the most likely.
i went through pao's ISO on this page and gave opinions on their content. i think they're the easy kill today. i already wanted pao dead yesterday, and i think the way wilgy and pao talked about each other but didn't really commit to wanting each other dead does pao no favors.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:40 pmI kinda just feel like she's town tbh. I've felt Paopan was pretty anti town most of the game.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:12 pmI feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:04 pmI read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:29 pmCould I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:24 pm Yes they can both still be mafia.
Are they? Probably not.
Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.
Take a look and see if you notice it as well
not backfired, i mean that if you are wolves together you just bussed very very very hard and were not afraid of one of you dyingPorscha wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:19 pmBy hard bussed each other, do you mean we are both wolf and hard scum read each other as a tactic that backfired into us being in a tied vote?Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:25 pma wilgy/porscha team hard bussed each other resulting in wilgy's death when they had opportunities to try and save him (they were competing wagons but probably with enough time in the day to have done something) so it looks unlikely, though if i get outside of the obvious poe (pao, you, MQ) somebody HAS to be bussing and i might come back to porscha being the most likely.
i went through pao's ISO on this page and gave opinions on their content. i think they're the easy kill today. i already wanted pao dead yesterday, and i think the way wilgy and pao talked about each other but didn't really commit to wanting each other dead does pao no favors.
my top 3 scum reads all game in order have been:
wilgy
pao
falcon
glad I still voted for him day 2 after missing my chance day 1 to make the difference. I am glad I was not persuaded off of him, but also annoyed with pao that he randomly hard pushed to have me voted off, as it felt like retaliation against me scum reading him all game
most to least confident:
No, absolutely not.
why notGavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:34 pmNo, absolutely not.
Paopan is town, I don’t believe both scum vote with me EoD1.
Because CRichard is just an absolutely better ML for them in that regard.Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:35 pmwhy notGavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:34 pmNo, absolutely not.
Paopan is town, I don’t believe both scum vote with me EoD1.
killing a 0 poster (who would be blamed on you specifically) and keeping alive a player who a lot of people are scumreading is helpful for the wolves. (turns out everyone scumreading CR flipped on it.)Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:37 pmBecause CRichard is just an absolutely better ML for them in that regard.Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:35 pmwhy notGavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:34 pmNo, absolutely not.
Paopan is town, I don’t believe both scum vote with me EoD1.
Paopan stays on CRichard, Wilgy votes CRichard, CRichard goes over.
So why vote the zero poster with me that doesn’t give anyone nothing?
There’s only 1 wolf.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:40 pmI kinda just feel like she's town tbh. I've felt Paopan was pretty anti town most of the game.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:12 pmI feel like Wilgy paid very little attention to MissC. A couple blind town reads w/o follow up or push.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:04 pmI read Wilgy's iso and he's made an effort to spew everyone clear to some degree. He solidly kept Falcon in his townlist the entire game in spite of Falcon pushing him. Given how washed he was I would have expected him to try to spew him.Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:29 pmCould I have a list from you that has most to least likely town?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:24 pm Yes they can both still be mafia.
Are they? Probably not.
Essentially I have no idea of an order. There's still work to do.
Take a look and see if you notice it as well
The read of which Wilgy is Wolf?Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:42 pmyou desperately need to stop clinging to one read and basing the entire rest of the game around it
that paopan is lock town and immediately moving me down your list because i just said i don't think paopan's townGavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:43 pmThe read of which Wilgy is Wolf?Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:42 pmyou desperately need to stop clinging to one read and basing the entire rest of the game around it
Oh I’m sure it’s probable but here’s a question, What about Falcon?Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 11:43 pm i swear to god it's just MightyQ and any reading of any content is a waste of our time