The Syndicate

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:29 pm Town:
Alexa
Nanook
Dizzy
SPF
Mac
Alison

Nanook and Mac look good forcing the wagon onto Wilgy, Alexa lock town per usual, and SPF and Alison are town based on how they were posting during Day 1.

I'll expand later when I get time.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:36 pm Like I'm not particularly scumreading her but she claimed the nest read on wilgy in thread, town read him, and he flipped red

That doesn't make her scum by itself but it does mean she doesn't get to be in the town pile based on tone alone

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:36 pm Like I'm not particularly scumreading her but she claimed the nest read on wilgy in thread, town read him, and he flipped red

That doesn't make her scum by itself but it does mean she doesn't get to be in the town pile based on tone alone

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:36 pm when I skimmed overnight I got a lot of confident solves out of wilgy's iso so this will be a fun day

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:12 pm I did not expect that death at all.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:37 pm Also fwiw I dont think mac is particularly unaligned with wilgy

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:37 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:36 pm when I skimmed overnight I got a lot of confident solves out of wilgy's iso so this will be a fun day

Do share pls

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:36 pm Like I'm not particularly scumreading her but she claimed the nest read on wilgy in thread, town read him, and he flipped red

That doesn't make her scum by itself but it does mean she doesn't get to be in the town pile based on tone alone

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:50 pm i wont be able to post much tonight but ill have some time to post/look into the spew tomorrow. nanook is my strongest townread followed by lime coke followed by alexa but i havent sorted my thoughts out all that much beyond that

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:50 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:50 pm i wont be able to post much tonight but ill have some time to post/look into the spew tomorrow. nanook is my strongest townread followed by lime coke followed by alexa but i havent sorted my thoughts out all that much beyond that

actually lime coke is my strongest townread in terms of actual confidence about his alignment, but i think nanook has been ~objectively~ townier lol

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:45 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:41 pm @ilario where would you personally go/why?

I’m ngl I feel like everyone’s had towny moments but I struggle so much to understand finger/giras world views that I personally would go there because even if they’re town I struggle to see us being able to find each other any time soon since the reasons they both seem to be pushing on myself and you are so hard to counter because the basis of the arguments is very flawed.

ilario wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:58 pm In a world where wilgy is actually scum nooook and Alexa look great off the flip

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright

whys that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright

whys that

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:16 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.

I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.

Really?? Why?

Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...

kk that makes sense

who else is in ur town pile atm?

Would say that the greener people are you, LC, and Alison. Slight town lean on Esooa, slight town lean on Mac.

Wolf leans are Alexa, Dizzy, SPF.

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright

whys that

She had a weird townread on him based on incorrect meta and I felt like as W/W she would uh... check that. Guess someone like SPF could fake that so I want to double check it tomorrow but at the time it felt not W/W to me and I was thinking Wilgy W

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright

whys that

because i was egregiously incorrect about him in a way that i doubt i would ever let myself be as a wolf

also i think that wilgy was clearly trying to pocket me by townreading me out of nowhere once i had softened on him and started calling him town (like in posts like these: viewtopic.php?p=882492#p882492)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:01 am

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright

whys that

She had a weird townread on him based on incorrect meta and I felt like as W/W she would uh... check that. Guess someone like SPF could fake that so I want to double check it tomorrow but at the time it felt not W/W to me and I was thinking Wilgy W

fake meta townreads on wolf teammates is a very common wolf tactic

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:01 am

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright

whys that

She had a weird townread on him based on incorrect meta and I felt like as W/W she would uh... check that. Guess someone like SPF could fake that so I want to double check it tomorrow but at the time it felt not W/W to me and I was thinking Wilgy W

fake meta townreads on wolf teammates is a very common wolf tactic

I agree but it was the fact that she linked a game to call him town for, for being different than his scum meta, and in the game she linked he was town, that just felt too dopey to be W/W

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:05 am I thought maybe playing a non hydra game not multitabling would be better but it's not plus after day 1 mac is going to reeee at me even more

so lol, I will see when I get aroiund to posting this day phase

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:54 pm I don't want to vote for Gira or Nook still.

Alexa is on Splints which makes me uncomfortable.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm I just re-read Gira and they are town too.

Ezgame.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:16 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.

I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.

Really?? Why?

Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...

kk that makes sense

who else is in ur town pile atm?

Would say that the greener people are you, LC, and Alison. Slight town lean on Esooa, slight town lean on Mac.

Wolf leans are Alexa, Dizzy, SPF.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:22 am @Lime Coke let me know if your feelings on SPF are still the same or not whenever you're around

There were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.

I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:45 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:20 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

why him?

zomg everyone's so towny

also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times

I saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.

At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.

What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:47 pmHmmmm....

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:48 pm That timing though...

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:28 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:24 pm Town:
Alexa
Illario
Esooa
Alison
Dizzy

Most confident to least.

How are you so confident on Alexa?

Mine is
Town:
LC
SPF
Ilario
Alison
Esooa

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:07 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:54 pm I don't want to vote for Gira or Nook still.

Alexa is on Splints which makes me uncomfortable.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:36 pm I just re-read Gira and they are town too.

Ezgame.

my general impression of skimming through wilgy's ISO is that he was a TMI machine - he loudly and aggressively townread and TMI'd me, lime coke, ilario, etc. as such, his treatment of gira and his insistence on calling him town when he was coming under pressure comes off as potential TMI of gira being town too, even though wilgy was prolly in anti-spew by the time that he made this post

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:06 am

alexa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:03 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:01 am

alexa wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:54 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm i should clearly never be partnered with wilgy based on how d1 played out but alright

whys that

She had a weird townread on him based on incorrect meta and I felt like as W/W she would uh... check that. Guess someone like SPF could fake that so I want to double check it tomorrow but at the time it felt not W/W to me and I was thinking Wilgy W

fake meta townreads on wolf teammates is a very common wolf tactic

I agree but it was the fact that she linked a game to call him town for, for being different than his scum meta, and in the game she linked he was town, that just felt too dopey to be W/W

you are probably right but like... everyone else except splints and esooa have better anti alignment reasons imo.

I guess depending on how you think about it maybe you could argue gira and falcon's reasons are about on par.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:06 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:05 am I thought maybe playing a non hydra game not multitabling would be better but it's not plus after day 1 mac is going to reeee at me even more

so lol, I will see when I get aroiund to posting this day phase

what am I supposed to do? townread you for trying to bury nanook when he pushed the flipped confirmed wolf?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:07 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:16 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:05 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:43 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:20 pm I think we should abandon all other premise and just murder ilario.

I disagree. I think Ilario is one of my greenest reads.

Really?? Why?

Because your entry & agreement with Alison gave me towny vibes and you haven't done anything that I wouldn't read from a town voice? Plus my early scum read voted you so...

kk that makes sense

who else is in ur town pile atm?

Would say that the greener people are you, LC, and Alison. Slight town lean on Esooa, slight town lean on Mac.

Wolf leans are Alexa, Dizzy, SPF.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:44 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:22 am @Lime Coke let me know if your feelings on SPF are still the same or not whenever you're around

There were a bit of times that I was kind of wavering in my tunnel on her, specifically the "you shouldn't have to be townreading me to try to work with me since that puts you into a conf-bias" post. Plus Alison mentioning that SPF responding with anger being town indicative for her is a decent point as well. At this rate I don't think she's mafia as much as I was last night.

I can't tell if it's me bitching out on scumreading her, or I was just wrong originally.
Also running out of confident enough options to vote out on Day 1.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:45 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:41 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:35 pm

alexa wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:20 pm [VOTE: wilgy] aubergine

why him?

zomg everyone's so towny

also his posts suck yet he has a lot of people townreading him for minor bad reasons which is >>>>rand wolf, and he hasn't answered my questioned about his dizzy read despite me pinging him multiple times

I saw one, and that was only because I re read. When in catch-up I'll often miss what was said while back reading until I get there.

At this point I'll take back my SPF wolf lean. The interactions between SPF and LC were good.

What did stick out was your slight town lean on Falcon. Talk to me about that one Alexa.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:47 pmHmmmm....

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:48 pm That timing though...

I think this was something that might've spewed SPF town? I remember making this post because Wilgy states "SPF is a scumread" then I respond to Alexa saying I don't scumread SPF anymore after what Alison says, then Wilgy just 180's his read on her.

Which was why I posted those two right after.