Re: Anniversary Game 4 - Staff vs AtE D3
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:23 pm
Not quite off work yet, but things have quieted down. Do give me a moment and I'll be with you.
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I am not quite flippant. I am very flippant.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:44 am @Epignosis You seem quite flippant as to who you suspect and who you're willing to vote. Are you flippant? What is going on in your head, regarding how you read every single one here?
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:06 am @lucy There are two things that apparently hasn't dawned on you, which I think should've if you were town.
1. I'm mech cleared by being a slank vig who killed Ruri. Because a) If I was mafia, I would never kill Ruri before I killed Violet. I have experience with Ruri, and she has always been a low poster who is mischop bait. She was also up for a chop on D1 this game. Violet, however, is a player I played in champs with and who is normally very active. If both are town, I would choose Violet every time. b) I would have no incentive to claim that I killed Ruri as mafia. I would just kill her and not say anything. c) I would not forfeit the role of a vig if I was mafia. The reason I did it was precisely because I did not want mafia to inherit it if they killed me.
2. Literally the only person I could be teamed with would be Daisy from ypov. All others are non-options. I'm not going to explain why unless you want me to.
This is off. You literally had a big discussion with Rico about his TSP town read and him thinking TSP was definitely town from TSP saying to shoot Dolby. That was like Rico's main thing on D2. You said you reread.lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:29 pmwhat was rico's previous read on tsp, that might've been a slip but I'm not convincedDyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:24 pm@lucy Is this a town post?Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:00 pm6-2 at best and you want to lynch town. Unbelievable.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:59 pm Guess I have to do a meaningless buss vote then.
[VOTE: TSP] aubergine
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However, what you do remember, is that Boq town read both you and Rico, and that is in the forefront of your mind. (Never mind that Boq actually town read everyone except TSP and Violet. So by your own logic... everyone but Violet should be more town from Boq dying.)
This is lopsided. You are picking and choosing information to fit a narrative instead of weighing the information to come to the right conclusion.
You reek of Golden from Game 1.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:06 am 2. Literally the only person I could be teamed with would be Daisy from ypov. All others are non-options. I'm not going to explain why unless you want me to.
The dual "I'm interacting with Dolby and lucy" thing here without interacting with them is fun.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:44 amLucy v lol
(For legal reasons, this is a joke. Don't want that on my record when Lucy flips w)
TH/Jack not w/w
TH probably town anyway, but yeah.
Interesting observation. Does this tell you something, @Dolby?
And was there a particular reason you didn't ask Moontwink for his strengths as mafia, @lucy?
Not really. I just think they have light, fluffy and pink auras.
Pretty sure I like this post decently well.MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:33 amwell last/only time I played with them I was hesitant on town reading them but was correct when I didRicochet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:11 amWhat did you over-think over Moonwink about?MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:19 am [VOTE: Dolby] aubergine
I'm also making the terrible decision of trusting moonwink for today after some amount of over-thinking
don't feel like I have anything else to say atm other than re-iterating my activity for D1 will be fairly low; expect practically no activity from me once it goes beyond 24 hours from now. D2+ should be much better.
thing is large part of what I town-read them for back then, they're kinda doing a fair amount this game as if its just natural to them regardless of alignment
but I found something new that I feel points to town, and I'm not going to elaborate on my thoughts beyond that for now
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I expected a lot more content actually.
@lucy, what's my experience, read accuracy, and strengths/weaknesses as mafia and town? And how are you going to approach me based on that?
If I throw out vibes reads I'd lean town on the following: Moon, Martin and TH. If you are town, let's be friends, okeee?![]()
[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine Shallow questions or something I don't know
Wait you killed someone? Who did you kill?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:40 amA central mechanism for the game is that roles can be inherited. Both me and Epig has chosen to inherit the role of the one we killed. Which makes it so that our original role is the one revealed.Ricochet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:47 am Morning. RIP TSP & Boq.
I've been on road yesterday, which synced well with the Night phase, and have a concert tonight and returning home tomorrow, which syncs less well with the Day phase. Will drop when I can today and more towards EOD tomorrow.
The TSP mislynch didn't clear stuff for me, since my reads were at lucy wagon wolf with Dolby, Violet backbench wolf, and maybe Dizzy sheeping us (whilst also wagon wolf with Dolby) or Boquise sheeping us hard. With Boquise kill, that leaves lucy / violet / dizzy.
Epig town, by virtue of his D2 action.
To which, my only small question mark would be that I am very confused as to why Moonwink's role flip seems identical to Epig's (or rather to how Epig's vig shot unfolded D2). Two policy killers in one game? Or some sort of copycat mechanism?
I'm thinking this might be a derp for you maybe, as I think mafia would probably know this? Cause I'm pretty sure they also get the choice to inherit a role with kills they make.
I don't know who is most wolfy because they have all flipped civ so far so I don't trust my reads on individuals.Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 9:26 amI don't really understand what you're saying in this post. Can you rephrase, or tell me how much this weighs for you?Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:24 amIts not you and it's not me. So at least two mafia in the following four:
Who does lucy suspect?
Epi and Dizzy
Who does Dizzy suspect?
lucy, rico, or violet
Who does Rico suspect?
Judging from yesterday lucy and violet
Who does violet suspect?
Rico and Dizzy
But I think it's like there is distancing now. Also wolves will want to keep as many from removed from the PoE as possible. So Dizzy with three people in their suspect list gives me a little warning bell.
Rico shows up in two suspect lists, as does Dizzy. Lucy is in three. But does wolf lucy try and make Epi of all people look bad? That seems like a stretch to me, town reading Epi is a better move for a wolf there. it won't look like TMI, but it also will make you look town-sided.
I think looking at those that if lucy is town, looking at this list of who is listing who in their PoE, I lean Rico and Dizzy. But it is really based on what I think the most likely play from a wolf is, it's not based on fact.
Let me ask you this. If it is lucy, who is most likely the teammate in your opinion?
Who is independently the most wolfy to you?
Also, are there pairings you think are unlikely?
^Questions for everyone btw
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You're dizzy's teammate.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:42 am I have read every post in this game and yet somehow I am still apparently missing major points that have happened. I got it now, Dizzy is claiming to have killed Ruri. And is saying that when you kill someone, if you take on their role then your discarded role is revealed as theirs. Man, this took me a long time to catch on to.
Only if Dizzy is Town.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:48 amYou're dizzy's teammate.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:42 am I have read every post in this game and yet somehow I am still apparently missing major points that have happened. I got it now, Dizzy is claiming to have killed Ruri. And is saying that when you kill someone, if you take on their role then your discarded role is revealed as theirs. Man, this took me a long time to catch on to.
If.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:51 amOnly if Dizzy is Town.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:48 amYou're dizzy's teammate.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:42 am I have read every post in this game and yet somehow I am still apparently missing major points that have happened. I got it now, Dizzy is claiming to have killed Ruri. And is saying that when you kill someone, if you take on their role then your discarded role is revealed as theirs. Man, this took me a long time to catch on to.
When have I said I won't consider Dizzy bad? This is not what any of my most recent posts have said. I specifically said that Dizzy listing three suspects looked shady because PoE is not a wolf's friend.
You're not hunting. You're bad.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:02 amtwo questions for you:
1. Has anyone disputed that Dizzy killed Ruri?
2. Do you see a wolf reason for Dizzy to have given up the role Ruri was flipped? Or to have refused it?
You're not hunting. You're bad.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:04 amWhen have I said I won't consider Dizzy bad? This is not what any of my most recent posts have said. I specifically said that Dizzy listing three suspects looked shady because PoE is not a wolf's friend.
Me asking questions and trying to understand what Dizzy is saying and consider if there is any merit to it is not the same as me thinking Dizzy is good.
I will.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:06 am You are wrong about me and being entirely unhelpful at this point. So carry on thinking what you want.
What does Rico's vote have to do with yours?Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:16 am I would like to see where Rico votes before I consider moving.
Because I think seeing connections and interactions matter. It could help inform my decision of where my vote ends up.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:17 amWhat does Rico's vote have to do with yours?Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:16 am I would like to see where Rico votes before I consider moving.
Are you not here to vote out mafia members?
was just testing something, dizzy should've followed me, since she didn't it's very suspicious
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:58 pmAlso me, but it will fail.TripleHaven wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:56 pmwhose the dedicated n1 kill?Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:53 pmYes. Killing me N2 would probably be ideal.Moonwink wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:51 pmNO, WTF. ;-; You're banned from #TeamMoonwink
You're a PR then? ;DDyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 7:49 pm Is it weird that I’m wondering how to not have my first post be scummy when I’m not even scum? =p
it's ridiculous right?Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:18 am If the spread stays this way, I will definitely move though, because a tie is not an option here. I would move to either Dizzy or Lucy at this point. A vote on you is just completely baffling to me. I don't know what the deal is with lucy's vote.
So you are saying your vote on Epi was an attempt to test Dizzy. Ok. I don't know what i think of that, but it's at least an explanation.lucy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:26 amit's ridiculous right?Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 20, 2022 1:18 am If the spread stays this way, I will definitely move though, because a tie is not an option here. I would move to either Dizzy or Lucy at this point. A vote on you is just completely baffling to me. I don't know what the deal is with lucy's vote.
last time I had a 100% confidence read I was right on dizzy and she won a game as mafia
I expected her to follow me because of this fact
because she didn't my conclusion is that she's too agenda'ed to actually bend to my will, ergo mafia
like talk to you in the moment, instead of a few messages between hours when the other person isn't directly online