WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

[GoSpursGo]

Anyway. Don't read too much into it but it's just a random thought aka shitposting crossing my mind atm that I still feel like posting.

Should be my sig, lol

[GoSpursGo]

I am still working hard on my latest invention (to pay the bills you see). I will not be with you until later. Therefore, Matte Kudasai!

Spoiler: show

You are also an inventor??

I am still working hard on my latest invention (to pay the bills you see). I will not be with you until later. Therefore, Matte Kudasai!

Spoiler: show

I am disappointed

For those who do not know (and several of you should), I will be very, very busy in my laboratory Saturday and Sunday.

Translator3000, how do the Japanese say, "If you're paying attention to the few things I have already said, why are you acting surprised at this, you wet paper bags!?"

Go on, translate now.

Go chūi kudasai.

Thank you.

I'm not surprised, just disappointed.

For the record, against my better judgement I tried translating that, but it didn't work.

[Vivax]

Anyway. Don't read too much into it but it's just a random thought aka shitposting crossing my mind atm that I still feel like posting.

Should be my sig, lol

Why ? Did you try to debate the statement that basophils play no role in fighting cancer cells?

[leetic]

One thing I particularly dislike is that leetic was in the position of being the precursor wagon to Nicole and he should have been able to produce a lot of information from his POV but instead all we got was this.

Nice hit, and good we got them out early given their role. Not sure how to read VCA, theoretically Nicole would have been more likely to survive if her wolf partners voted her but it seemed very unlikely that she would hit the required 11 votes, especially so late in the day. Dubz isn't a last-minute vote that would have given Duelist Mirage much advantage if they were paired with Nicole, so minor town points there I guess?

What???
Twice what???

I'm not sure exactly what you want me to have done here? My wagon was largely voted by people for poor/no reasons but that's a point that has been litigated a bunch already. Plus my post is looking at specifically EoD wagons, I don't really care about the person who didn't show up in time to move their vote off me

You mean dubz?

My issue isn't with your wagon. It's about the reasoning of your attempt to VCA here. Why would Nicole be more likely to survive with partners voting her?
Kinda somewhat understand your Dubz estimate but still feels like weird logic.

Because of her role, duh

[jess]

on reflection i don't think that i consider nicole's vote on leetic as an argument for epi being mafia within itself

because if we live in a world where epi/leetic are both town then it seems plausible to me that nicole could have perceived leetic as the player who was more likely to get miselimed than epi, since most ppl were suspicious of leetic basically all day, and the epi wagon was a little more sudden (in my perception at least)

so if epi is mafia then i actually dont really think the wagonomics are why

[Duelist Mirage]

So are we definitely in a one scum team world?

Bakana koto...

Is there something stopping you from engaging more in this game? I don't really think you're a wolf but it's harder to keep in mind when you seem overwhelmed and uninterested like this.

[jess]

also i wouldnt hard clear leetic for it but i just dont see a reason why nicole would be incentivized to bus leetic there lol, if leetic is mafia then i feel like nicole would have proly just let the wagons stay tied

[jess]

idk i kinda wanna vote trekkie

[jess]

[VOTE: trekkie] aubergine

[jess]

I'll probably jump on leetic wagon if nothing changes? Dont have much access to the game tonight but will be back before deadline

oh also nicole had already positioned herself to vote for leetic long before epi had become a viable wagon, which means that it would look extra weird if she voted epi out of nowhere. so i really dont think the nicole vote tells us anything about epi's alignment

[jess]

I think there's some kind of bias at play where people that were on leetic and then got the hit on nicole suddenly feel like that makes leetic less interesting as mafia.

I think this is fair. To me, I'm a little more sus of Epig than leetic just because Nicole did bother to drop a vote on leetic (theoretically) and avoided Epig, and I'm not sure it makes sense for her to bus when she's in no apparent danger at that point. And I feel like leetic's contributions have on the whole been more towny. But they're not clear (and it could just be both, which would of course be amazing work)

Leetic just barely avoided being the yeet and should have more information than others knowing his own alignment but he's lacking in impulse to solve instead.
It's like the motivating factor just passed by him. It's scummy.
Didn't even find him particularly scummy before this day. And he's been around, clearly.
In my opinion, anyway.

Do you have an opinion on Epig? or if you've talked about him could you point me in that direction?

Again, I agree with the fundamental premise that leetic isn't clear, I'm just saying based on what I've seen Epig looks like a higher priority

A lot about epig looks like refuge in audacity so he's kinda attracting a lot of controversy to himself which...Might or might not be mafia.
Don't really see why he'd straight up use that as an opener though so that leans more towards it being town.
He really wants to look like he doesn't give a fuck I guess. Might be a not town aligned force but not necessarily mafia either.

Sorry this cross-posted as I was typing.

I could see this opinion. Personally, I am still a pretty loud wolf so "attracting attention" doesn't automatically mean town to me.

It's just not even the audacity, but ever since the nicole flip there's been a total lack of engagement. I guess there was a cover in that they would be in the lab this weekend, but still, there's just nothing there helping me find him.

He doesn't want you to find him. You'll have to flip him for that. All that lab crap isn't even meaningful. I could dump a chunk of dough into a bowl and call it a lab.

Anyway. Don't read too much into it but it's just a random thought aka shitposting crossing my mind atm that I still feel like posting.

Spoiler: show

My date of (un)death shall be marked as 8_9_2021. At the hands of killers posing as meatgrinders.

idk if ive said it yet but i also think vivax is town now particularly bcuz of his paranoia about leetic, i think there are easier angles for a wolf to push today and i feel like he actually believes it

[leetic]

I think there's some kind of bias at play where people that were on leetic and then got the hit on nicole suddenly feel like that makes leetic less interesting as mafia.

I think this is fair. To me, I'm a little more sus of Epig than leetic just because Nicole did bother to drop a vote on leetic (theoretically) and avoided Epig, and I'm not sure it makes sense for her to bus when she's in no apparent danger at that point. And I feel like leetic's contributions have on the whole been more towny. But they're not clear (and it could just be both, which would of course be amazing work)

Leetic just barely avoided being the yeet and should have more information than others knowing his own alignment but he's lacking in impulse to solve instead.
It's like the motivating factor just passed by him. It's scummy.
Didn't even find him particularly scummy before this day. And he's been around, clearly.
In my opinion, anyway.

Also, I never really felt like I was in that much danger of going over? I knew EoD shenanigans were going to occur and some of the more vocal/townread players were pushing against my wagon. If my wagon did have wolves on it (besides Nicole of course) they probably realized that my wagon wasn't sustainable/a good strategy in the long run. I would like to see if there were any leetic to Nicole voters though, that would be interesting

[Vivax]

One thing I particularly dislike is that leetic was in the position of being the precursor wagon to Nicole and he should have been able to produce a lot of information from his POV but instead all we got was this.

Nice hit, and good we got them out early given their role. Not sure how to read VCA, theoretically Nicole would have been more likely to survive if her wolf partners voted her but it seemed very unlikely that she would hit the required 11 votes, especially so late in the day. Dubz isn't a last-minute vote that would have given Duelist Mirage much advantage if they were paired with Nicole, so minor town points there I guess?

What???
Twice what???

I'm not sure exactly what you want me to have done here? My wagon was largely voted by people for poor/no reasons but that's a point that has been litigated a bunch already. Plus my post is looking at specifically EoD wagons, I don't really care about the person who didn't show up in time to move their vote off me

You mean dubz?

My issue isn't with your wagon. It's about the reasoning of your attempt to VCA here. Why would Nicole be more likely to survive with partners voting her?
Kinda somewhat understand your Dubz estimate but still feels like weird logic.

Because of her role, duh

Wow I just kinda gaf about her being mafia tbh. Respect for considering the details I guess.
Does that mean there's a doublevote on the CW? Because otherwise it would be a majority, would it not.

Plurality from what I'm used to means that the first person to reach the majority gets yeeted at equal vote amount.

[jess]

DrWilgy t
Dubz t
Duelist Mirage ehhhh town now
Epignosis t
Gims t
GoSpursGo t
Jess ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
leetic ehhhhhhhh
Long Con ehhhhhhhh
Michelle ehhhhhhhhhhhh
Nutella ehhhhhhhhhhhh
Porscha ehhhhhhhhhhhh
Pyxxy ehhhhhhhhhhhh
RondoDimBuckle ehhhhhhhhhh
Scotty t
Tranq t
Trekkie99 ehhhhhhhhh
Vivax t

So like

Leetic
Michelle

Trekkie... do I akshally... nahhhh

Nutella iuno fam I just got a wobble

Jess just unno fam she feels... town I guess sure blame Scotty if wrong fuggit

Porscha is just not town like surely

Rondo is like .... town akshally

Why everybody giving LC a pass? Am I just washed?

Pyxxy... iunnno fam

i think that im projecting specific meta expectations onto mac to some degree but his solving so far has felt pretty fake/phoned in to me fwiw, this post especially gives me the heebie jeebies lol

[Vivax]

I think there's some kind of bias at play where people that were on leetic and then got the hit on nicole suddenly feel like that makes leetic less interesting as mafia.

I think this is fair. To me, I'm a little more sus of Epig than leetic just because Nicole did bother to drop a vote on leetic (theoretically) and avoided Epig, and I'm not sure it makes sense for her to bus when she's in no apparent danger at that point. And I feel like leetic's contributions have on the whole been more towny. But they're not clear (and it could just be both, which would of course be amazing work)

Leetic just barely avoided being the yeet and should have more information than others knowing his own alignment but he's lacking in impulse to solve instead.
It's like the motivating factor just passed by him. It's scummy.
Didn't even find him particularly scummy before this day. And he's been around, clearly.
In my opinion, anyway.

Also, I never really felt like I was in that much danger of going over? I knew EoD shenanigans were going to occur and some of the more vocal/townread players were pushing against my wagon. If my wagon did have wolves on it (besides Nicole of course) they probably realized that my wagon wasn't sustainable/a good strategy in the long run. I would like to see if there were any leetic to Nicole voters though, that would be interesting

You got to have some PoE of sorts by now? A list of reads or just scumreads?

[jess]

i think the shade on porscha especially just feels a little inorganic to me? like mac had barely talked about porscha up until that point, why is he saying that she is "surely not town", esp when i dont rly think she's been all that wolfy

[Long Con]

I am still working hard on my latest invention (to pay the bills you see). I will not be with you until later. Therefore, Matte Kudasai!

Spoiler: show

You are also an inventor??

I am still working hard on my latest invention (to pay the bills you see). I will not be with you until later. Therefore, Matte Kudasai!

Spoiler: show

I am disappointed

For those who do not know (and several of you should), I will be very, very busy in my laboratory Saturday and Sunday.

Translator3000, how do the Japanese say, "If you're paying attention to the few things I have already said, why are you acting surprised at this, you wet paper bags!?"

Go on, translate now.

Go chūi kudasai.

Thank you.

I have, unfortunately, left a portion of the game unread. I hope to try to engage more fully with the forward flowing current of the stream. My apologies, thank you for calling out my failing, that I may fully meditate upon changes to be made.

[leetic]

leetic (5) - DM, Scotty, dubz, gims, Nicole

NicoleandDime
Voters: Vivax, nutella, GoSpursGo, gims, DrWilgy, Scotty, Tranq

gims and Scotty are the only leetic -> Nicole voters (at least during the times when the wagons mattered). As for the others, Duelist switched to Dubz, Nicole switched to Vivax, and Dubz vanitied. I believe Scotty said they no longer wolfread me when they returned to the thread but I'll look at gims's progression a bit more

[GoSpursGo]

Anyway. Don't read too much into it but it's just a random thought aka shitposting crossing my mind atm that I still feel like posting.

Should be my sig, lol

Why ? Did you try to debate the statement that basophils play no role in fighting cancer cells?

Oh just in general, I frequently say shit without giving it significant thought

In what context did you make that debate? I’m a cancer researcher, though I cannot say I have given deep thought to the role of basophils for cancer immunology

[Duelist Mirage]

idk, I've frequently been the scum who hops on the bus at the very end of the day because I'm hoping it gives me a shred of town cred. If you want to independently find Tranq towny that's fine, but I think the vote was so late and a more or less foregone conclusion that idk that I 'd give much credit there

Demo ne... What do you think of the Tranq/Nicole interactions during d1?

I get that people want to think about bussing potential, but I think it's a very good chance this is just a pure town wagon. Everyone was towny individually even beforehand.

[leetic]

One thing I particularly dislike is that leetic was in the position of being the precursor wagon to Nicole and he should have been able to produce a lot of information from his POV but instead all we got was this.

Nice hit, and good we got them out early given their role. Not sure how to read VCA, theoretically Nicole would have been more likely to survive if her wolf partners voted her but it seemed very unlikely that she would hit the required 11 votes, especially so late in the day. Dubz isn't a last-minute vote that would have given Duelist Mirage much advantage if they were paired with Nicole, so minor town points there I guess?

What???
Twice what???

I'm not sure exactly what you want me to have done here? My wagon was largely voted by people for poor/no reasons but that's a point that has been litigated a bunch already. Plus my post is looking at specifically EoD wagons, I don't really care about the person who didn't show up in time to move their vote off me

You mean dubz?

My issue isn't with your wagon. It's about the reasoning of your attempt to VCA here. Why would Nicole be more likely to survive with partners voting her?
Kinda somewhat understand your Dubz estimate but still feels like weird logic.

Because of her role, duh

Wow I just kinda gaf about her being mafia tbh. Respect for considering the details I guess.
Does that mean there's a doublevote on the CW? Because otherwise it would be a majority, would it not.

Plurality from what I'm used to means that the first person to reach the majority gets yeeted at equal vote amount.

Nicole was at seven, which is four (I believe) votes short of a majority. If you exclude nonvoters (Porscha and RDB) then she was three behind. Either case, it didn't look likely that she would hit the required number, though maybe her partners were in the background waiting for a couple other people to join the Nicole wagon before they would jump on it. Still, it didn't seem like there was a huge attempt to kickstart any other potential wagon; the Duelist wagon was static after I joined it and no one else was even close.

[Dubz]

POE based on actual pings is something like LC/jess/Mac/leetic

Tentative town bucket = DM, Wilgy, Scotty

Never rescind town bucket = gims, vivax, Spurs, Nutella

Everyone else is

Now off to snack on some sea creatures or something. Sayōnara!

[VOTE: @Long Con ] aubergine

Konichiwa dubz (idk why I both anymore)

can you expound on the scum read on LC? You really think they’re the most sus in your entire catch up?

I feel like most of the thread has coalesced around a pretty tight POE. Who in that pool of eels is most likely to just be town but had a bad day?

Who on Nicole’s wagon was the most likely bussing slot?

Bottom two questions can be for anyone

Yahō!

The most sus? Idk about that, I'd say those 4 are on roughly equal ground for me. It interested me though. Felt like LC was stretchy in the discussion with DM. And I didn't see they'd gotten much attention (in the limited pages I've read).

If the thread has a consensus POE I'm woefully unaware of it so you'll have to be more specific on who you're asking about!

I'd expect if Nicole was bussed it would be Wilgy or later but I just kinda doubt it happened (but maybe that's what they want me to think)

Maybe it's not consensus and just my own brain, but while the people you chose as your POE haven't done anything to distinguish themselves as towny, it's interesting to me that the venn diagram between the POE that I posted last night (epig/trek/Rondo (and Michelle, but obv that 's no more)) and yours is nonexistent. So I guess wrt the people I'm looking at, who is most towny to you and why?

I would guess that is because they weren't posting in the timeframe I was reading (from when the Nicole wagon restarted until EOD), and Nicole didn't mention them specifically in her posts.

I have no thoughts on those 3, gomen. I'm about to skim through overall mentions of Nicole for more interactions so we'll see if I find anything there.

Any resemblance to kaiju living or radioactive is purely coincidental.

idk dubz, Epig was among the more active players overnight as the Nicole wagon was building up and even had significant banter with Wilgy. Rondo was also posting though less.

I have a hard time believing you don't have any impression of Epig if Nicole wagon-->EOD is where you were focusing your catchup.

Truly just must not have stood out to me when I was reading, I commented on the things that did. I can look closer tomorrow and give my thoughts on that slot. That and the other stuff I meant to do today that I didn't get around to. Nemui.

[leetic]

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

Alright

Spurs does sound like town

[VOTE: nicole] aubergine

I mean, he was the second to last voter on the Nicole wagon after my wagon had long dissipated. Neither vote is explained well (nor is there much of a "progression" to speak of between those posts). Definitely a good opportunity to throw in a bus vote

[leetic]

[VOTE: gims] aubergine

[GoSpursGo]

idk, I've frequently been the scum who hops on the bus at the very end of the day because I'm hoping it gives me a shred of town cred. If you want to independently find Tranq towny that's fine, but I think the vote was so late and a more or less foregone conclusion that idk that I 'd give much credit there

Demo ne... What do you think of the Tranq/Nicole interactions during d1?

I get that people want to think about bussing potential, but I think it's a very good chance this is just a pure town wagon. Everyone was towny individually even beforehand.

I haven’t given any thought to tranq/Nicole interactions, tbh. Is there something notable there that I missed?

To be clear, I have no real interest in voting tranq today unless someone comes in with compelling info. I’m just laying out my thought process that, compared to players that I consider almost hard-not-wolf like Nutella and Wilgy, tranq gets a lot less credit for their vote than those two

[leetic]

I caught nicole on page 1 and voted her like 3 times I'm clear

This wording seems a bit strong for someone who was largely hedging on her for most of the phase and even soft defending her with regards to her push on me

[leetic]

Also, you only voted Nicole twice (as far as I can tell)

[Duelist Mirage]

Why is pyxxy so much more interesting today than they were yesterday?

Gamestate. Things have happened, things that are good for town. Shikashi... pyxxy doesn't really have much to say about anything, just images.

After going through Nicole's ISO again, it seems pretty clear they were not unhappy with attacking leetic throughout. Cast shade pretty early on, mused about jumping on the wagon, and then of course voted there before dipping.

It isn't impossible leetic is still scum, but I'd need some more evidence before going there.

I don't feel like Nicole is the type who's going to avoid distancing plays, particularly with a rather lurky partner. I agree that leetic isn't among the first places I'd look though.

[gims]

I caught nicole on page 1 and voted her like 3 times I'm clear

This wording seems a bit strong for someone who was largely hedging on her for most of the phase and even soft defending her with regards to her push on me

No

[gims]

Her push on you was the only good thing abt her posting

Thats not soft defending anyone

Now bye, If you push me ill make sure you flip

[jess]

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

Alright

Spurs does sound like town

[VOTE: nicole] aubergine

I mean, he was the second to last voter on the Nicole wagon after my wagon had long dissipated. Neither vote is explained well (nor is there much of a "progression" to speak of between those posts). Definitely a good opportunity to throw in a bus vote

there isn't necessarily a strong progression between gim's vote on michelle and gim's vote on nicole, but imo gims does have a pretty towny progression on nicole when looking at his entire day one:

Vivax probably town

I agree Nicole might be mafia

Nicole otoh did not claim town, denied the towncore, then sent a broken gif

Imma sit on this nicole wagon, just not feeling her this game unfortunately

still not really feeling nicole, i guess her leetic sus is okay but she is reminding me a bit of an old scumgame of hers

Wrt Nicole I just never felt her this game and generally im one of the few ppl townreading her when that isnt obvious to anyone else

^^gims persistently floated nicole as one of his top scumreads and talked quite a lot about how he wasnt feeling her posts this game at all. it seems like there's a persistent build-up of suspicion against nicole in his ISO

so i mean it doesnt ring true to say that gim's lack of progression btwn voting michelle and voting nicole is wolfy, when he had made his thoughts about nicole abundantly clear throughout the entire phase?

[nutella]

I caught nicole on page 1 and voted her like 3 times I'm clear

This wording seems a bit strong for someone who was largely hedging on her for most of the phase and even soft defending her with regards to her push on me

i think gims is a pretty large part of the reason nicole got any early pressure started on her in thread at all

zettai unmei mokushiroku!

[GoSpursGo]

POE based on actual pings is something like LC/jess/Mac/leetic

Tentative town bucket = DM, Wilgy, Scotty

Never rescind town bucket = gims, vivax, Spurs, Nutella

Everyone else is

Now off to snack on some sea creatures or something. Sayōnara!

[VOTE: @Long Con ] aubergine

Konichiwa dubz (idk why I both anymore)

can you expound on the scum read on LC? You really think they’re the most sus in your entire catch up?

I feel like most of the thread has coalesced around a pretty tight POE. Who in that pool of eels is most likely to just be town but had a bad day?

Who on Nicole’s wagon was the most likely bussing slot?

Bottom two questions can be for anyone

Yahō!

The most sus? Idk about that, I'd say those 4 are on roughly equal ground for me. It interested me though. Felt like LC was stretchy in the discussion with DM. And I didn't see they'd gotten much attention (in the limited pages I've read).

If the thread has a consensus POE I'm woefully unaware of it so you'll have to be more specific on who you're asking about!

I'd expect if Nicole was bussed it would be Wilgy or later but I just kinda doubt it happened (but maybe that's what they want me to think)

Maybe it's not consensus and just my own brain, but while the people you chose as your POE haven't done anything to distinguish themselves as towny, it's interesting to me that the venn diagram between the POE that I posted last night (epig/trek/Rondo (and Michelle, but obv that 's no more)) and yours is nonexistent. So I guess wrt the people I'm looking at, who is most towny to you and why?

I would guess that is because they weren't posting in the timeframe I was reading (from when the Nicole wagon restarted until EOD), and Nicole didn't mention them specifically in her posts.

I have no thoughts on those 3, gomen. I'm about to skim through overall mentions of Nicole for more interactions so we'll see if I find anything there.

Any resemblance to kaiju living or radioactive is purely coincidental.

idk dubz, Epig was among the more active players overnight as the Nicole wagon was building up and even had significant banter with Wilgy. Rondo was also posting though less.

I have a hard time believing you don't have any impression of Epig if Nicole wagon-->EOD is where you were focusing your catchup.

Truly just must not have stood out to me when I was reading, I commented on the things that did. I can look closer tomorrow and give my thoughts on that slot. That and the other stuff I meant to do today that I didn't get around to. Nemui.

I’ll give you a little more space to work through this. But I’d be more interested in your POE if you can tell me why they’re better targets than the ones in my POE and players with votes on them like pyxxy

[jess]

Ok I smiled youre welcome to the towncore

Too late I already said no smh

also like it's technically fakeable but this strikes me as really weird interaction if nicole and gims are w/w lol

[Duelist Mirage]

Gun to head I would vote IHNI ayyyyyy gottem
It would not be DM or Nicole I know that buuuuuuuuut at the same time I could see the angle on either of them but I don’t wanna cause they’re the only players I can actually read, and I mean that as presently in this game and not just in general

this is kinda a hard read to verbalize but i dont really like the way that trekkie lumps dm & nicole into the same bucket in this post

i feel like a lot of wolves launder soft defenses of their partners thru talking about them in conjunction with another player, and it feels like trekkie is going out of his way to make up a reason why he isnt willing to push on nicole. just feels a lil partner-y

Chotto matte yo. Trekkie, gims, Nicole and I all came over here after first playing on mafiascum. So we kind of are a natual bucket for him to make. (Though why is gims not included in that list of people you think you can read, Trekkie?)

[jess]

Gun to head I would vote IHNI ayyyyyy gottem
It would not be DM or Nicole I know that buuuuuuuuut at the same time I could see the angle on either of them but I don’t wanna cause they’re the only players I can actually read, and I mean that as presently in this game and not just in general

this is kinda a hard read to verbalize but i dont really like the way that trekkie lumps dm & nicole into the same bucket in this post

i feel like a lot of wolves launder soft defenses of their partners thru talking about them in conjunction with another player, and it feels like trekkie is going out of his way to make up a reason why he isnt willing to push on nicole. just feels a lil partner-y

Chotto matte yo. Trekkie, gims, Nicole and I all came over here after first playing on mafiascum. So we kind of are a natual bucket for him to make. (Though why is gims not included in that list of people you think you can read, Trekkie?)

on reflection i think what i actually find wolfy about that post is just trekkie saying "i could see the angle on either of them" bcuz i dont really see any indication in his ISO that he had reason to be seriously concerned about you or nicole at that point in the game?

it implies a level of solving/interiority that i dont see reflected in the rest of trekkies posts

[leetic]

Her push on you was the only good thing abt her posting

Thats not soft defending anyone

Now bye, If you push me ill make sure you flip

This response makes me feel like you're compensating for something

[GoSpursGo]

I will say, while I think leetic is wrong about gims, it feels like a pretty towny push. This would be a very hard push to make if leetic was scum. And entirely unnecessary when I think a number of players are generally thinking that leetic is a town counterwagon to nicole

[jess]

I will say, while I think leetic is wrong about gims, it feels like a pretty towny push. This would be a very hard push to make if leetic was scum. And entirely unnecessary when I think a number of players are generally thinking that leetic is a town counterwagon to nicole

agreed

[GoSpursGo]

Day 2 VC on 9/27/26 at ~2300 EDT

pyxxy (4) - Tranq, nutella, DM, gims
Epig (1) - Spurs
Trek (2) - Scottie, Jess
Long Con (1) - dubz
leetic (1) - Vivax
gims (1) -leetic

10/19

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: A little under half

ETA: Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~30h)

[Duelist Mirage]

Do you have an opinion on Epig? or if you've talked about him could you point me in that direction?

Again, I agree with the fundamental premise that leetic isn't clear, I'm just saying based on what I've seen Epig looks like a higher priority

A lot about epig looks like refuge in audacity so he's kinda attracting a lot of controversy to himself which...Might or might not be mafia.
Don't really see why he'd straight up use that as an opener though so that leans more towards it being town.
He really wants to look like he doesn't give a fuck I guess. Might be a not town aligned force but not necessarily mafia either.

idk what to do at all with the pool of pyxy/epi/rondo. does anyone have a strong read on any of them that i can sheep?

Why does nobody have a strong read on Epig today? They're squarely in the middle of the post count, it's not like they've been absent, and they were a primary counterwagon on day 1.

Epi's posting has been almost all sass and basically no meat. Like, I kinda want to townread the attitude, but I don't like the lack of reads. His tone is similar to what I've seen from him as town, but... I feel like he also cared to put out some sort of opinion when he was under pressure and he sorta took the opposite tack here? He got himself flipped d1 in the last game instead of the wolf because he tried to vanity wagon me instead of voting the counter wagon whereas here he cared about self-pres and... just sorta voted me again because why not?

Wakarimasen, it's a mixed bag to me

[RondoDimBuckle]

bawnjorno @jess whats your opinion on @Scotty kudasai

I gotta head to my tea party soon and they made me wear these robes this time that are supposed to ward off evil spirits too

I got shown some moon charts yesterday and I overheard scotty egging on pyxxy to surprise me again dressed as a ghost today so I ran away for good but he didnt want to join in on the caper. So pretty interested in threads opinion on that. You seem pretty bonza so I am hitching my itinery to yours.

Also I think peeps are forgetting that a priest shot could be a random prize win if ya think about it

TOYOTA

[Epignosis]

I think there's some kind of bias at play where people that were on leetic and then got the hit on nicole suddenly feel like that makes leetic less interesting as mafia.

I think this is fair. To me, I'm a little more sus of Epig than leetic just because Nicole did bother to drop a vote on leetic (theoretically) and avoided Epig, and I'm not sure it makes sense for her to bus when she's in no apparent danger at that point. And I feel like leetic's contributions have on the whole been more towny. But they're not clear (and it could just be both, which would of course be amazing work)

Leetic just barely avoided being the yeet and should have more information than others knowing his own alignment but he's lacking in impulse to solve instead.
It's like the motivating factor just passed by him. It's scummy.
Didn't even find him particularly scummy before this day. And he's been around, clearly.
In my opinion, anyway.

Do you have an opinion on Epig? or if you've talked about him could you point me in that direction?

Again, I agree with the fundamental premise that leetic isn't clear, I'm just saying based on what I've seen Epig looks like a higher priority

I don't think you've been fair to me given my previously stated mechanical obligations over the past two days, and for that, I should exact my wrath by sending a bird to drop an egg-shaped bomb on your arm, as your head is probably a useless target!

However, I am in a merciful mood. Almost in the mood for saki.

Alas, I have none. Whatever this is will have to do.

I am now willing to hear and address whatever grievances you have against me.

[Vivax]

[VOTE: gims] aubergine

Might be smart outside of the game but inside of the game it‘s a rather bad move.

[RondoDimBuckle]

who do u think the mafia are, rondo?

no clue, Im not even sure nichol was bad 50/50 which is technically higher % than rand town.

I havent read shit and im not gonna catch up

im only here to check my reservation for tomorrow. There was a fuckin ghost in the tea house and I booked it.

aizuchi, rondo

AO
It is time for you to take some initiative, as your gameplay can best be described thus far as Namakemono

(And if you had to look that one up, you have time to help us find you town kthnx)

PIYO PIYO LETS GO

I think you're kowaii mate

is that enough initiative for ya?


SUZUKI TOSHIBA

[jess]

bawnjorno @jess whats your opinion on @Scotty kudasai

probably town bcuz of the combination of him being one of the most aggressive/thread leade-y voices in the thread yesterday and him using that influence to push the game toward a scum wagon:

Ok I’ve had a strange blind side to Nicole so far. Going through her iso reveals she is on her phone just idly crossing the street.

well I think I'm down to just trusting vivax, scotty and tranq

honestly want to townread duelist but her multiball point + approach to me felt jumpy yesterday so I'm backing off from townreading her for now

her leetic vote seems fine tho

nutella is finding her footing still which is pair of the course for her towngame but its early and she becomes obvious later on so im holding onto that

still not really feeling nicole, i guess her leetic sus is okay but she is reminding me a bit of an old scumgame of hers

game too large and i dont have many townreads

push comes to shove im sheeping scotty and maybe nutella if i feel good abt it

DM feels super town imo.
I super get the antsiness over the anticlaim stuff and this is town!DM besides it

I would even contend this is her most content-filled post and if she flips wolf, I’m down to fully clear DM because of it (unless this is multiball)

[VOTE: Nicole] aubergine

I don't hate the Nicole wagon but I'm always wary of wagons that get so far ahead of all the others so early into the game

To be fair, this wagon had only now reached a majority a few hours ago, and the day is almost over…so

bussing is hyptohetically possible but the more simple answer is that he's town. also i like his push on trekkie today

[RondoDimBuckle]

dubz/trekkie/pyxy/epi/mac should proly have a few

why not me?

i kinda forgot that u existed tbqh

bonzai, remember I exist now?


plus pretty sure mac and michelle think I am town so lets work well together.

MITSUBISHI

[RondoDimBuckle]

baka, link broke

[Epignosis]

I think there's some kind of bias at play where people that were on leetic and then got the hit on nicole suddenly feel like that makes leetic less interesting as mafia.

I think this is fair. To me, I'm a little more sus of Epig than leetic just because Nicole did bother to drop a vote on leetic (theoretically) and avoided Epig, and I'm not sure it makes sense for her to bus when she's in no apparent danger at that point. And I feel like leetic's contributions have on the whole been more towny. But they're not clear (and it could just be both, which would of course be amazing work)

Leetic just barely avoided being the yeet and should have more information than others knowing his own alignment but he's lacking in impulse to solve instead.
It's like the motivating factor just passed by him. It's scummy.
Didn't even find him particularly scummy before this day. And he's been around, clearly.
In my opinion, anyway.

Do you have an opinion on Epig? or if you've talked about him could you point me in that direction?

Again, I agree with the fundamental premise that leetic isn't clear, I'm just saying based on what I've seen Epig looks like a higher priority

A lot about epig looks like refuge in audacity so he's kinda attracting a lot of controversy to himself which...Might or might not be mafia.
Don't really see why he'd straight up use that as an opener though so that leans more towards it being town.
He really wants to look like he doesn't give a fuck I guess. Might be a not town aligned force but not necessarily mafia either.

Sorry this cross-posted as I was typing.

I could see this opinion. Personally, I am still a pretty loud wolf so "attracting attention" doesn't automatically mean town to me.

It's just not even the audacity, but ever since the nicole flip there's been a total lack of engagement. I guess there was a cover in that they would be in the lab this weekend, but still, there's just nothing there helping me find him.

I work all day Saturday and Sunday. So no, you will not hear from me much on Saturday and Sunday.

Nice work, stolen street sign!

What's that, Translator3000?

Ima kara oshikko shite kuru.

[RondoDimBuckle]

bawnjorno @jess whats your opinion on @Scotty kudasai

probably town bcuz of the combination of him being one of the most aggressive/thread leade-y voices in the thread yesterday and him using that influence to push the game toward a scum wagon:

Ok I’ve had a strange blind side to Nicole so far. Going through her iso reveals she is on her phone just idly crossing the street.

well I think I'm down to just trusting vivax, scotty and tranq

honestly want to townread duelist but her multiball point + approach to me felt jumpy yesterday so I'm backing off from townreading her for now

her leetic vote seems fine tho

nutella is finding her footing still which is pair of the course for her towngame but its early and she becomes obvious later on so im holding onto that

still not really feeling nicole, i guess her leetic sus is okay but she is reminding me a bit of an old scumgame of hers

game too large and i dont have many townreads

push comes to shove im sheeping scotty and maybe nutella if i feel good abt it

DM feels super town imo.
I super get the antsiness over the anticlaim stuff and this is town!DM besides it

I would even contend this is her most content-filled post and if she flips wolf, I’m down to fully clear DM because of it (unless this is multiball)

[VOTE: Nicole] aubergine

I don't hate the Nicole wagon but I'm always wary of wagons that get so far ahead of all the others so early into the game

To be fair, this wagon had only now reached a majority a few hours ago, and the day is almost over…so

bussing is hyptohetically possible but the more simple answer is that he's town. also i like his push on trekkie today

its time for me to head into the chashitsu thats tea house for you unedjakated folks.

if you think scotty aint zasshuken and is actually junketsushu then ill accept it