The Syndicate

Long Con wrote:

Roxy wrote:Also to anyone who has cleared MP to be a civ bc he MAY have survived a N attempt - HELO. - there are 2 baddie teams and Chick.

Just to clarify, there is only one baddie team, and Chick. British Intel is Civ-aligned, in that they need to defeat The Lemons to win. Also, it looks like they can win even if dead... but they don't need to defeat Chick Hicks to win (so Chick, leave them alone! )

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Roxy wrote:Also to anyone who has cleared MP to be a civ bc he MAY have survived a N attempt - HELO. - there are 2 baddie teams and Chick.

Just to clarify, there is only one baddie team, and Chick. British Intel is Civ-aligned, in that they need to defeat The Lemons to win. Also, it looks like they can win even if dead... but they don't need to defeat Chick Hicks to win (so Chick, leave them alone! )

The remainder of their win conditions are secret.

Lot of assumptions being made about secrets today.

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I see nothing wrong with Dom's behavior this game. He's been reasonable. I may not agree with him on Made, but LC's most recent theory is obviously an attempt to CHA (cover his ass). And he has been baddie hunting and not making near as many empty statements or questions as you, LC.

I'd like everyone to actually read my observations about LC. I am very confident he's bad.

Of course you don't see anything wrong with Dom's behaviour. It's pretty clear he's your baddie teammate. I just hope we don't lynch Made before proving it by lynching one of you.

DFaraday wrote:To answer Made's question I'm not Mafia.

I think the case against LC is strained - not boldly asserting suspicions of players whose alignment you don't know is perfectly reasonable. That's basically how I play, as I really don't want to commit to something I'm not sure of.

I haven't felt suspicious of Dom or MP to date, but LC's theory is intriguing. However, for this lynch I will stick to my original suspicion and vote Made. I feel like if we conclude once and for all whether he is civvie then Snowy's alignment can be more easily deduced; otherwise, this topic will keep reocurring in every lynch.

Made wrote:Ok, MP x Dom team doesn't make sense to me considering how close Dom's MP push was early game to getting him lynched, if i remember correctly.

Roxy wrote:Also the civs deserve to lose this for following bs cases/suspicions - I changed my vote to help.

Long Con wrote:

Made wrote:Ok, MP x Dom team doesn't make sense to me considering how close Dom's MP push was early game to getting him lynched, if i remember correctly.

Really? Because although Dom stated he would vote MP until he was dead, he didn't actually vote for him once. Even on the first day, when his vote could have made the difference and gotten MP lynched.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Roxy wrote:Also the civs deserve to lose this for following bs cases/suspicions - I changed my vote to help.

Why would a civvie do this?

Roxy wrote:Also the civs deserve to lose this for following bs cases/suspicions - I changed my vote to help.

sabie12 wrote:

Roxy wrote:Also the civs deserve to lose this for following bs cases/suspicions - I changed my vote to help.

This statement bothers me. Why would someone say this if they were civ? There is never a benefit to trying to convince someone you aren't civ when you are.

sabie12 wrote:

Roxy wrote:Also the civs deserve to lose this for following bs cases/suspicions - I changed my vote to help.

This statement bothers me. Why would someone say this if they were civ? There is never a benefit to trying to convince someone you aren't civ when you are.

Long Con wrote:

Dom wrote:

Long Con wrote:Well, if YOU read MY post then you'll see I didn't say that you think I'm bad.

Otherwise, I'm quite comfortable integrating a scathing diatribe about MP07's methods in with a post that began with answering you.

Well, you threw a lot of shade in that post. I see my name in there far more than MP's. You never actually indicted Mr. Sock of anything in that post, but rather, danced around an issue that left both me and MP open to attack.

You're being too sensitive.

Long Con wrote:Dom's game:

Please feel free to click that link and follow along Dom's posts yourself.

First couple of days, some nothing posts.

Next six days, focus on MP for making a Seemer comment, and for leading the FZ. lynch.

Then he realizes that MP getting targeted makes him not a baddie, drops MP. Barely questions whether or not it was MP or DF that got targeted.

Next five days, goes after Made for, let's call it the "suspicious analysis" for brevity.

That takes us to yesterday when he asked me about the Hedge/Made lynch.

At no point to MP call Dom out for "not baddie hunting", despite Dom having only two suspicions all game, and extremely minimal discussion of anything else.

Theory: Dom's pursuit of MovingPictures07 in the early game was distancing, because he's a baddie with MP07. DFaraday was the actual target for the Night 1 kill, targeted by Dom, MP, and team. When the failed kill didn't show a specific player, they took advantage of it to lead the thread into accepting that MP was targeted, and therefore not a baddie. This also led to a convenient point for Dom to stop his distancing accusations of his teammate, to move doggedly on to the next target, Made.

Despite earlier declarations of trust for Snow Dog, Dom uses the Made case to also cast a shadow of doubt on Snow Dog, saying "Snow Dog is either bad or is hugely misguided". This is an attempt to seize the opportunity to lynch a possible Civvie BTSC team. I can only imagine the Seemer talk that would likely come up when Made gets lynched as Finn McMissile or something.

So, yeah, after this analysis of Dom's gameplay, coupled with MP's lack of criticism for it, makes these guys my top two suspects for this lynch.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Do it, lynch me. Then when I flip civ, I want everyone to lynch you, LC, and your baddie teammate, Rox.

Roxy wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Rox's fixation on Ambray and the way she has emotionally manipulated the thread have been bothering me for some time. I think she's your teammate.

You are brilliant baddie hunter MP! I guess your wall of text will secure LC's lynch -
I guess since your lumping me together as a baddie with FZ & Bass who had dun goofed did not work out so now I am a baddie with LC on a team though idk why since I was suspicious of LC before MP - but what ever he says must be true bc its in a wall of text.

Yes everyone, lets trust someone who has consistently led lynches on civvies all gme.

Someone who refuses to see all sides.

Someone who thinks he is right all the time so their mind will remain unchanged even when proven wrong.

Someone who is displaying all the civ qualities that make me want to follow their vote.



I really wish you would just go on and make a wall of text about me so I can be lynched and put out of my misery.

Also to anyone who has cleared MP to be a civ bc he MAY have survived a N attempt - HELO. - there are 2 baddie teams and Chick.

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Long Con wrote:I really had no idea who the baddies were.

Long Con wrote:Don't bother, MP, why waste your time when you've already decided? Just vote for me, stop trying to justify it by pretending to analyze my gameplay.

You want me to tell you who the baddies are. I don't know who they are. I know who I think they're not. I put out some discussion about it, and you just accuse me yet again of "not baddie hunting".

You voted me D2.

If you found me suspicious all this time, why did you not pursue it?

Redacted.

I do believe you know all about redacted, since your case is made of it.

...that, more than anything, makes me suspicious of you.

Maybe MP was actually that overconfident that he had magically caught a whole baddie team, but it just smacks of convenience to me.

I don't know what to do about MP. It's possible he could be a severely mistaken Civvie, but the way he just threw Bass, FZ., and Roxy into the pot just based on Bass' suppose slip-up is just bizarre. Then the sig bet thing, which always makes me suspicious. S~V~S just made a sig bet over in Monopoly Mafia and turned out to be a baddie. I feel like it's a move designed to make everyone believe that you're Civvie, because no one would ever make a sig bet as a baddie!

Nope, I never actually was suspicious or said he could be a baddie. That's the case, right? I do appreciate you pulling all my quotes together so it's this easy to prove you wrong. Just because I didn't take the Tunnel Vision route like you and Dom seem to enjoy, doesn't mean I'm not baddie hunting. I'm not obligated to say every word that comes to my mind when I'm playing Mafia, I'm surprised to learn that's not a general principle everyone follows. I'm not here to prove to you or anyone how hard I can publicly try to get baddies - when I think I've found a baddie, you will know about it. And I'm pretty sure I've found two here.

What's the phrase, MP? "Ya dun goofed"? Yup. *votes MP*

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Ambray wrote:Urgh, sorry. I fell asleep as soon as I got home from work and have just woken up - will be going straight back to sleep. Haha.

I have not got around to reading DF's posts and I don't want to add another fish to the barrel when there is already a lot of names being tossed about at the moment.

I don't think Made is bad, nor MP, unfortunately that means I am voting Roxy - it's not my first choice by any means but that is where the only other votes are. Wouldn't be the case if she hadn't moved her vote, but that is how the cookie has crumbled at this exact moment in time.

Snow Dog wrote:

Ambray wrote:Urgh, sorry. I fell asleep as soon as I got home from work and have just woken up - will be going straight back to sleep. Haha.

I have not got around to reading DF's posts and I don't want to add another fish to the barrel when there is already a lot of names being tossed about at the moment.

I don't think Made is bad, nor MP, unfortunately that means I am voting Roxy - it's not my first choice by any means but that is where the only other votes are. Wouldn't be the case if she hadn't moved her vote, but that is how the cookie has crumbled at this exact moment in time.

So if Rox had not voted for herself, then neither would you have?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Bah, I'm so confused. Why did Ambray just latch onto Rox? That gave me a bad feeling.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I do still believe LC has been very slick and I do think he's worth considering. I find it odd that BR, who said the same, now seems to no longer believe that.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Snowy, what are your thoughts on LC? Ambray? Everyone else (except Made :P)?

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Snowy, what are your thoughts on LC? Ambray? Everyone else (except Made :P)?

My thoughts on LC are as stated previous. If he was bad why put the final vote on Bass if he didn't need to. he could have distanced himself from that vote. That kind of bothers me.

Roxy wrote:Not surprised.
I was hoping people would show their true intent. I am going to let it happen bc civs will never win a game on this site.

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Snowy, what are your thoughts on LC? Ambray? Everyone else (except Made :P)?

My thoughts on LC are as stated previous. If he was bad why put the final vote on Bass if he didn't need to. he could have distanced himself from that vote. That kind of bothers me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Roxy wrote:Not surprised.
I was hoping people would show their true intent. I am going to let it happen bc civs will never win a game on this site.

WTF

WTF does this accomplish if you're civ?

I don't know about you, but I'm busting my butt to make sure civs win a full game on this site.

Also, they have won one (MOTU) and plenty of speed games.

Defeatist attitudes don't help at all.