The Syndicate

Yes - I'm nervous. Skerred. I'm unsure where to vote. I read these cases and they make sense then the person the case is being made responds and it feels reasonable too. I have lots of doubt.

Hey! Only five people have voted. My my. This lynch might turn out even weirder than the last two.

juliets wrote:I'm thinking about voting rabbit now both because canuck has me concerned that I misinterpreted her and because I don't want to spread the vote further. rabbit was sheer full ahead tunneling on day 1 and I have the luxury of knowing he was wrong. He usually has a good nose for baddies when he is good so I'm suspicious that he is bad this game. And where is he anyway?

In China.

rabbit8 wrote:frk y brstrds. rbbt n chn. dffrnt tm zn.

Okay, I'm here, sorry for the delay -- dinner, Death Note, etc.

WTF at the spread vote??? Catching up now.

Elohcin wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I just looked at the poll and OMG guys. We need to stop spreading votes.

Don't spread votes, but don't bandwagon or you're found suspicious for not having your own thoughts. Which is better?

Hey hey, don't put that on me. Those are not my thoughts. I think Rabbit has built his case on LC regarding those thoughts.

Forgive me, I wasn't trying to put those thoughts on you specifically. It was just your post that reminded me that very often in mafia there are lose lose situations.

Ok, that's fair. I just don't remember having ever been like that. Sometimes it's hard to have an original idea when everyone is on here way more than I am so I don't give people shit for it.

OH! I didn't decipher that very well.

BR, what was it about Canuck's post that made you feel better? I'm confused.

blindfaeth wrote:To clarify I'm not actually insulted and I love Alex but I feel strongly about him being bad this game

Linki.. It could be genuine. But if you know you are surviving, don't you agree it would be very easy to manipulate everyone into looking elsewhere?

Likewise man, I'm so glad to have you back. But I don't understand why you're being so closed-minded about me. It appears you still think I'm bad and I can understand why, but you even admit we have opposite reads of everyone, so perhaps we are on completely different pages. You are being paranoid of me unnecessarily. I still think you're suspish but I won't be voting for you.

I'm going to go ahead and vote rabbit.

juliets, are you considering voting rabbit even though he's cursed? That surprises me a bit.

I still think Canuck's behavior is most worthy of a vote. I'm trying to be objective about the events that have occurred and there's no changing the fact that she opportunistically voted for me yesterday and still has contributed little. Her attempts to contribute today didn't strike me as particularly genuine.

I'm not convinced, but that's what I got. I don't see any more compelling reason to vote elsewhere. But I don't want to spread the vote further, especially since I have a vote.

I could see a vote for cannuck - the quotes br pulled are compelling.

MP, you're absolutely right. I need to quit changing my mind just because someone responds to my suspicion and gives me a little doubt. If someone else is going to vote canuck then its not stretching the vote without reason. Ignore my statement that I will vote for rabbit, I will vote Canuck.

MovingPictures07 wrote:BR, what was it about Canuck's post that made you feel better? I'm confused.

blindfaeth wrote:To clarify I'm not actually insulted and I love Alex but I feel strongly about him being bad this game

Linki.. It could be genuine. But if you know you are surviving, don't you agree it would be very easy to manipulate everyone into looking elsewhere?

Likewise man, I'm so glad to have you back. But I don't understand why you're being so closed-minded about me. It appears you still think I'm bad and I can understand why, but you even admit we have opposite reads of everyone, so perhaps we are on completely different pages. You are being paranoid of me unnecessarily. I still think you're suspish but I won't be voting for you.

She admitted that she represented me wrong. She didn't have to. She could have let that one slide and others could have followed it believing that's what BR did. She is certainly not off my suspect list but I now (for the first time) have a little doubt in my convictions. The problem is I have been certain of her for the past couple of days I have not focused on anyone else so if I don't vote for Canuck I have no idea who else I would suspect at this point. I have less than 15 minutes and I have to let LC vote and post.

Gah, I'm not crazy right? Canuck is usually much more focused and opinionated than she has been this game. I do not see her civ game here at all. If I were to compare this game to Film directors then this is not showing the same style at all.

fingersplints wrote:

bea wrote:This vote is making me skerred. IDK where to vote tbh. Too many people in the gray area and not enough of the more solidly civ or mafia in my feels. Also weird lynch manips are weird. Gah!

You are scared. I have a vote.

To be fair only 50% of the lynchees this game had votes :P

I'm waiting for BR to elaborate on why she changed her mind first, but otherwise as long as I'm not the only one to vote Canuck, I will do so. Considering Sophie is off the poll and BF has no votes, I don't want to vote for anyone other than my 3 main suspects right now just because the vote is spread. But I don't want to unnecessarily spread the vote either. Ugh.

I am staying with my convictions and voting Canuck, I am out of time to debate with myself anymore. Sticking with my gut and voting Canuck.

bea wrote:I could see a vote for cannuck - the quotes br pulled are compelling.

I promise you, they're bot. All they amount to is (and this is MP's case, too) that I haven't contributed much and haven't been thinking deeply about the game and haven't made smart (or rather blendy) votes. That's lazy Canuck. That's typical Canuck when she isn't involved in discussion.
But That's not baddie Canuck, Bea, and you know it. So does BR

Linki: lol. Good job, baddies.

Nevermind, linki. Ahhhhhh.

OK, voting Canuck for reasons previously stated.

I don't feel super confident that any of the people with votes are bad. I don't feel super confident that Canuck is bad - but I'm seeing different people suspect her for diferent reasons. So .....yea. I'm voting there today.

linkie - I know br - she didnt have to own up to that. It gives me pause as well - but the others with votes are even more in unsure about area for me.

So... You tell us not to spread our votes, then vote someone who wouldn't have had a vote if it weren't for the baddie in the room manipulating JC? :P

I'm going to pull a civvie mp here and start screaming shenanigans. Why are four people voting Canuck out of nowhere? Something is amiss.

Okay. So I've been reading and re-reading for the past hour or so, trying to decide on my vote, and now it's all spread out. Like what most others are saying, the people with votes are not particularly suspicious. So, I've gone back a bit and looked at the current vote-getters (it's funny - in real life, I make tons of short lists, but I don't usually in mafia. But here we go):

Splints - Seems like Bass's suspicion was based on changing her mind in-thread? Not big enough for a vote.
LC - I stated my lack of suspicion before, but also my wariness for having said lack. I fell for his baddie game briefly in Monty Python, but by the time I saw my mistake, I was NK'ed real quick. Also, just for simplicity's sake and possibly for logic, he and rabbit were at it, and now rabbit's cursed and a helluva lot less talkative because of that (and apparently being in China). It could be that LC wanted him to be more quiet so rabbit couldn't keep going against him?
MP - Also tricky like LC, but I'm truly a sucker for emotional appeals. I didn't really understand the votes for him yesterday, either.
rabbit - So aggressive that I think he's Civ (I mentioned this before). Also, see above.
llama - Quiet for the weekend, but for a valid reason. Not voting llama today.

Linki - I see suspicion/votes for Canuck but...Canuck's being what I've known her to be, good or bad (I think I've played with her more as good? I dunno). I don't see enough out of the ordinary...Oh god running out of time. Out of the players getting votes, LC is barely, BARELY the one above the rest, so I'll go there.

Linki linki - Holy shit

voting MP

I get the canuck suspicion, but I'm not really liking this last minute bandwagon of her.

and I also wanted someone between me and the top vote getter!

blindfaeth wrote:So... You tell us not to spread our votes, then vote someone who wouldn't have had a vote if it weren't for the baddie in the room manipulating JC? :P

QFT.

I voted BR, for a moral victory

I think she's a bad baddie, and I hope civs will avenge me by seeking out her baddie buddies. I don't think they're hiding very deeply.

Okay, I'm a bit freaked out myself that BR did a complete 180 again and ended up voting for Canuck. But I still voted for the player whose actions are most suspect to me.

I cast my vote for rabbit. He's still my biggest suspicion that hasn't been altered along the way.

I think Canuck is the safest one in this vote.

Shenanigans, I say! Shenanigans!

This should be interesting.

blindfaeth wrote:Shenanigans, I say! Shenanigans!

I agree 100%.

fingersplints wrote:voting MP

I get the canuck suspicion, but I'm not really liking this last minute bandwagon of her.

I don't understand this.

My suspicion of Canuck has been stated for most of the game now. Why would I be most worthy of a vote, if you're not liking a last minute "bandwagon"?

Long Con wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:Shenanigans, I say! Shenanigans!

I agree 100%.

Does this mean you think BR is bad, or what?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:voting MP

I get the canuck suspicion, but I'm not really liking this last minute bandwagon of her.

I don't understand this.

My suspicion of Canuck has been stated for most of the game now. Why would I be most worthy of a vote, if you're not liking a last minute "bandwagon"?

You are most worthy of a vote for all the reasons I have been stating and because you are most suspicious to me. You didn't even address my last post where I commented on your frustration.

ended??? i thought this ended around 10:45-50? since thats the usual date???

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:voting MP

I get the canuck suspicion, but I'm not really liking this last minute bandwagon of her.

I don't understand this.

My suspicion of Canuck has been stated for most of the game now. Why would I be most worthy of a vote, if you're not liking a last minute "bandwagon"?

Maybe Canuck is good, fingersplints is bad, and some other Canuck voters are bad with her.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:Shenanigans, I say! Shenanigans!

I agree 100%.

Does this mean you think BR is bad, or what?

No, I meant that the lynches in this game are pure Shenanigans by their very nature.

Sophie wrote:ended??? i thought this ended around 10:45-50? since thats the usual date???

The clock advanced an hour last might soph

fingersplints wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:voting MP

I get the canuck suspicion, but I'm not really liking this last minute bandwagon of her.

I don't understand this.

My suspicion of Canuck has been stated for most of the game now. Why would I be most worthy of a vote, if you're not liking a last minute "bandwagon"?

You are most worthy of a vote for all the reasons I have been stating and because you are most suspicious to me. You didn't even address my last post where I commented on your frustration.

What reasons have you been stating?

And you mean this post?

fingersplints wrote:

Black Rock wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:Sorry I haven't been around. But long story short, car troubles were more involved than I thought and boogs and I had to spend the better part of our day replacing the starter.

Anyway, I think eloh asked about why someone being Jessica and finding golden would matter, and that's simply because depending on who she is and her insight in BTSC chat, she may have influenced his perceptions.

I can't believe MP is still trying to push suspicion my way, it's actually insulting how laughable this is. My vote is for him. And I honestly can't foresee voting anyone else until he's keeled over this game. I have the complete opposite opinions on literally just about everyone.

This one's for my fallen friend Golden! Votes mp

You didn't find his upset to be genuine?

I'm actually still a little torn on this too. I believe he was genuinely upset. But I am not sure that that necesarily means he was genuinely upset because he was wrongfully lynched and not upset that he was lynched for what he thinks is bad reasoning. Why switched it to Golden specifically? Yes, he got Aces, but would they really just go for revenge. No. He had to have been on to someone. And I'm still not 100% sold the baddies would use a lynch switch on not one of there own AFTER already losing one this early in the game.

What was there for me to address? Just looks like you're talking out your train of thought. Did you want me to address something?

blindfaeth wrote:

Sophie wrote:ended??? i thought this ended around 10:45-50? since thats the usual date???

The clock advanced an hour last might soph

crap, its true, epi did send a private message but i forgot all about it
i cant believe, my bf just got me home and here i was hoping i had a while to catch up and vote

Sophie wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:

Sophie wrote:ended??? i thought this ended around 10:45-50? since thats the usual date???

The clock advanced an hour last might soph

crap, its true, epi did send a private message but i forgot all about it
i cant believe, my bf just got me home and here i was hoping i had a while to catch up and vote

Tell us who you would have voted for before the lynch post comes up!

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:voting MP

I get the canuck suspicion, but I'm not really liking this last minute bandwagon of her.

I don't understand this.

My suspicion of Canuck has been stated for most of the game now. Why would I be most worthy of a vote, if you're not liking a last minute "bandwagon"?

Maybe Canuck is good, fingersplints is bad, and some other Canuck voters are bad with her.

Well now after this comment I can almost guarantee she will be good.

linki MP that is not the first time I had mentioned you though. I don't understand why you are acting like a vote for you is out of nowhere. I'm honestly surprised more people don't see you as suspcious still.

Plus MP who would you have rather me voted for? I don't want to spread the votes anymore. I don't like the canuck bandwagon. I don't see LC or llama as suspicious. I know I am a civvie. And rabbit is cursed.

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:voting MP

I get the canuck suspicion, but I'm not really liking this last minute bandwagon of her.

I don't understand this.

My suspicion of Canuck has been stated for most of the game now. Why would I be most worthy of a vote, if you're not liking a last minute "bandwagon"?

Maybe Canuck is good, fingersplints is bad, and some other Canuck voters are bad with her.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:Shenanigans, I say! Shenanigans!

I agree 100%.

Does this mean you think BR is bad, or what?

No, I meant that the lynches in this game are pure Shenanigans by their very nature.

I'm really starting to think splints is bad myself. She did state she could see herself voting for MM and then voted Zomba. Today she never said she found me most suspicious until this most recent post of hers. She's been very non-transparent with her "most suspicious" suspects.

And re: lynches, oh, okay. I'm not sure I agree with your theory just yet. I am tempted to believe these first two lynches could have been due to actual vote manipulation and lynch switches before I would believe they were due to some manipulation mechanic that's unconventional. Now if this or any future lynch ends up weird like the last two, then I'll start considering otherwise.

I'd just like to point out that all four votes for Canuck were all in a row between 10:23 and 10:27 when fs voted for mp. That's four in a row within four minutes, for someone who previously had little to no discussion and no votes even though bea expressed concern with the vote and br made a comment about not spreading the vote.

Splints, fair enough, your most recent post demonstrates your train of thought regarding who currently had votes better. But I didn't know that's what you were thinking at the time you cast your vote.

It is possible I missed your post where you said you suspect me. Can you link me to it? The only one I remember seeing from you today is the one you just mentioned that I quoted -- the one where you were talking out a train of thought. If I overlooked it, I'm sorry.

blindfaeth wrote:I'd just like to point out that all four votes for Canuck were all in a row between 10:23 and 10:27 when fs voted for mp. That's four in a row within four minutes, for someone who previously had little to no discussion and no votes even though bea expressed concern with the vote and br made a comment about not spreading the vote.

What thread are you reading?

I've been discussing Canuck for EONS and trying to get people to vote for her.

It's not my fault that people decided to latch votes onto her at the last minute without discussing her all day.

fingersplints wrote:

Long Con wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:voting MP

I get the canuck suspicion, but I'm not really liking this last minute bandwagon of her.

I don't understand this.

My suspicion of Canuck has been stated for most of the game now. Why would I be most worthy of a vote, if you're not liking a last minute "bandwagon"?

Maybe Canuck is good, fingersplints is bad, and some other Canuck voters are bad with her.

Well now after this comment I can almost guarantee she will be good.

I suppose that means that I'm bad then, for making the comment?

Linki fingersplints: Oh, you said you don't see me as suspicious. Why would my comment make Canuck be good in your eyes then?

Linki MP: We'll see within minutes. While interesting, I guess I hope my theory is wrong. It just would be kind of fun to crack the pattern and start voting for people not because we want to lynch them, but because it will cause the real target to get lynched. Hilarity!

MovingPictures07 wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:I'd just like to point out that all four votes for Canuck were all in a row between 10:23 and 10:27 when fs voted for mp. That's four in a row within four minutes, for someone who previously had little to no discussion and no votes even though bea expressed concern with the vote and br made a comment about not spreading the vote.

What thread are you reading?

I've been discussing Canuck for EONS and trying to get people to vote for her.

It's not my fault that people decided to latch votes onto her at the last minute without discussing her all day.

Fwiw i don't count your suspicions, you're baddie mc badderson

i have to say i find myself agreeing a lot with fs and bf, even if this doesnt make me look good, i dont care, i have nothing to hide. i smell something fishy here

hope im wrong

That said, BF, I'm not averse to considering the other Canuck voters as bad. It depends on how Canuck flips, inevitably. I will admit I'm shocked that I questioned BR on why she found Canuck genuine and yet she then changed her mind again. That was most odd to me.

Linki w/ BF: Whatever. You owe me an apology at endgame.

Who drowned Metalmarsh89 in a pool of his own drool?

Poll ended at Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:29 pm

Bass_the_Clever
0
No votes

bea
0
No votes

Black Rock
1
Canucklehead (13)
6%

blindfaeth
0
No votes

Canucklehead
4
juliets (9), Black Rock (10), MovingPictures07 (11), bea (12)
25%

Elohcin
0
No votes

fingersplints
1
Bass_the_Clever (4)
6%

juliets
0
No votes

Long Con
2
rabbit8 (6), nijuukyugou (15)
13%

MovingPictures07
2
blindfaeth (8), fingersplints (14)
13%

nijuukyugou
0
No votes

rabbit8
2
Elohcin (7), Long Con (16)
13%

thellama73
1
Zomberella12 (5)
6%

Zomberella12
0
No votes

Clarabelle Cow (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
3
Epignosis (1), S~V~S (2), Metalmarsh89 (3)
19%


Total votes : 16