The Syndicate

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:16 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:01 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Why?

Also any other thoughts

He's been pinging me since like D1 or 2, can't recall, and I still don't see why I should TR his slot...his case against me last RD was demonstrably false, and full of either confbias or just scum pushing one of the only voices against their slot.


SVS seems a runaway wagon, and I guess it's a 3P hit from what I've read? I'm fine w/ their flip.


I don't like that it feels like the thread is sheeping Kate & Golden's read on each other...I look back at my Kate sus D1, and Golden's defense, and now it just seems like that's something they could easily work out in wolfchat so as to switch Kate's intro game up from her previous scum game.

I appreciate the thought, but I'm not remotely smart enough for that and my wolf game is so f'ing rusty.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm Can we afford me voting Guillo?

I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:16 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:01 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Why?

Also any other thoughts

He's been pinging me since like D1 or 2, can't recall, and I still don't see why I should TR his slot...his case against me last RD was demonstrably false, and full of either confbias or just scum pushing one of the only voices against their slot.


SVS seems a runaway wagon, and I guess it's a 3P hit from what I've read? I'm fine w/ their flip.


I don't like that it feels like the thread is sheeping Kate & Golden's read on each other...I look back at my Kate sus D1, and Golden's defense, and now it just seems like that's something they could easily work out in wolfchat so as to switch Kate's intro game up from her previous scum game.

I appreciate the thought, but I'm not remotely smart enough for that and my wolf game is so f'ing rusty.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:16 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:14 pmSomeone being cocky to get cred because they assume maf is killing scotty makes plenty of sense, I still believe.

It would be pretty funny if Scotty is actually town here, I won't deny that lol

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:25 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:24 pmIn that scenario, his mechanic is to learn who his teammates are? Is that the concept?

No, it's probably just a fake claim. I mean, could be, but most likely just fake

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:04 pm The game has slowed to the point everyone should be giving some content at this point

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm Can we afford me voting Guillo?

I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot

Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:16 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 pm I also still want PC gone I don’t think any of their posts or reads are genuine right now and I don’t like the singular focus on Third parties while ignoring mafia.

In fact I’m baffled that nobody else seems to care about this

Counterpoint… the only reason not to townread them is actually because they are a hydra, and tutu’s reads and solvyness continues to feel town.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:36 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm Can we afford me voting Guillo?

I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot

Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?

This has 100% not been correct this game unless you assume neon is mafia.

Also I’ve very openly claimed it was a one and done so no reason to kill me especially since I’ve gotten low level suspicions + only what one kill since my claim? Which was Mac a universial town read

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pmHmm. Feels like a real claim in the way he was treating looking for connections between Sloonei and wilgy in the thread. I’m sure rondo could long con though.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:04 pm The game has slowed to the point everyone should be giving some content at this point

honestly i think the simplest solution to this game is that SVS is the last mod squad and scotty is the last soup mafia. not really much to say until that's proven / disproven.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:37 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:36 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm Can we afford me voting Guillo?

I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot

Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?

This has 100% not been correct this game unless you assume neon is mafia.

Also I’ve very openly claimed it was a one and done so no reason to kill me especially since I’ve gotten low level suspicions + only what one kill since my claim? Which was Mac a universial town read

By kp giver I assumed he meant ender not you.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:04 pm The game has slowed to the point everyone should be giving some content at this point

honestly i think the simplest solution to this game is that SVS is the last mod squad and scotty is the last soup mafia. not really much to say until that's proven / disproven.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:37 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pmHmm. Feels like a real claim in the way he was treating looking for connections between Sloonei and wilgy in the thread. I’m sure rondo could long con though.

Yeah, he could definitely long con that imo. I once long conned claiming a completely made up medium role that could talk to dead players in the game as mafia, pretending to have a dead player in chat with me giving reads. Breadcrumbs from D1 and everything lol

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm Can we afford me voting Guillo?

I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot

Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:39 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:37 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pmHmm. Feels like a real claim in the way he was treating looking for connections between Sloonei and wilgy in the thread. I’m sure rondo could long con though.

Yeah, he could definitely long con that imo. I once long conned claiming a completely made up medium role that could talk to dead players in the game as mafia, pretending to have a dead player in chat with me giving reads. Breadcrumbs from D1 and everything lol

I once long conned being a bomb that would also take out the voter/killer. I was town though, and I can’t for the life of me remember why (it was related to getting best use out of my actual role lol).

I will just say that while rondo kinda does live in the same ‘be paranoid at lylo’ space I do, I don’t really see rondo as wolf here.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:40 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:39 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:37 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:35 pmHmm. Feels like a real claim in the way he was treating looking for connections between Sloonei and wilgy in the thread. I’m sure rondo could long con though.

Yeah, he could definitely long con that imo. I once long conned claiming a completely made up medium role that could talk to dead players in the game as mafia, pretending to have a dead player in chat with me giving reads. Breadcrumbs from D1 and everything lol

I once long conned being a bomb that would also take out the voter/killer. I was town though, and I can’t for the life of me remember why (it was related to getting best use out of my actual role lol).

I will just say that while rondo kinda does live in the same ‘be paranoid at lylo’ space I do, I don’t really see rondo as wolf here.

I once knew a guy named Long Con. Fabulous hair.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:43 pm oh yeah scotty's ~claim & vanilla check on falcon are also townie

viewtopic.php?p=1020048#p1020048

~sheep

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:33 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:27 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:37 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:07 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:55 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 am



Yep. Sad day, IIRC I was sus of JJJ's lukewarm playstyle, but didn't follow up enough due to pivoting. Golden's post does remind me of that tactic

I guess iata here if everyone but me agrees? Idk man
You can convince me it's an... attempt... at a pivot post. I think it would be weak if it legitimatally was
I dont think you could convince me its wilgy oriented specifically
And golden has done nothing with the so-called pivot and clearly seemed to be trying to think out loud when thread was dead
I would like to pump the brakes a little on this line of reasoning until I'm provided with far more reason to agree with the dissenters

I don't have to convince anything. I made an observation that indicates anti town behavior.

It's up to you to find it correct or not and react to it by means that suits your alignment.

I find it strange that rather than disagreement with said observation, you attempt to actually take away power from the observation by saying that it needs convincing.

This is semantics. I dont know if it is correct and I'm not convinced by your argument. If I said everyone but me agrees then that means I do not agree

You slank half the game away and this is what you hit me with? I'm having specific thoughts you may be 3p if you arent town

Yes, and now you are further discrediting an argument by stating it's just semantics.

Again, the part that was odd wasn't that you disagreed, but more so how you presented it. "I disagree" is very different from "you need to convince me" as one places the actionable query in a neutral state that can grow and the other places the responsibility strictly on a person who's already said their peace.

Also "hit you with"? I don't believe I've hit you with anything, and it honestly seems that you've placed a strange amount of focus and energy on both my responses to golden and my response to you further.

I'm not fond of this discourse. You provided an idea to the thread. I said I dont find the idea convincing and therefore I disagree with your idea. I welcomed you to provide more if you so wished so that maybe I could see what you could see, but that I wasnt seeing it as is. You dont need to do more, and I never demanded you do. You dont *need* to convince me - I just wont agree with you unless you do convince me. Because that's how arguments work.

I did not discredit your argument. I said I dont agree with your argument. The argument is you see parallels. I dont see them. There is *zero* discrediting being done. You accused me of not saying something I did say, and I proved it. Calling it semantics was nice of me tbh- it was just incorrect of you to accuse me of "not disagreeing" when that's exactly what I did. And the colored text plainly shows that. But isnt particularly important, so I dont mind calling it semantics and leaving it at that.

Golden is a topic of conversation and I have not placed any special attention to it, and since your responses towards me have been accusational, I respond to them. This is normal. Your responses have been weirding me out, in fact. Not because of nonsense like "placing too much focus or energy" on them, but because they feel manufactured.

Aye, the subject of "you can convince me" is still very different from "can you convince me" or "help me see what you see". The previous, again takes away while the latter helps build. Perhaps I could have stated that better.

Again, you didn't. The argument moved from disagreement when you pushed the thought back to me in a manner that doesn't necessarily promote thought growth.

I wonder if the discourse here may be in the word discredit. Perhaps disabling the arguments growth would be better way to phrase it?

Again, how does this compare to all my other content though?

Define Manufactured? I don't think I understand the argument.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:28 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:16 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:10 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:01 pm [VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Why?

Also any other thoughts

He's been pinging me since like D1 or 2, can't recall, and I still don't see why I should TR his slot...his case against me last RD was demonstrably false, and full of either confbias or just scum pushing one of the only voices against their slot.


SVS seems a runaway wagon, and I guess it's a 3P hit from what I've read? I'm fine w/ their flip.


I don't like that it feels like the thread is sheeping Kate & Golden's read on each other...I look back at my Kate sus D1, and Golden's defense, and now it just seems like that's something they could easily work out in wolfchat so as to switch Kate's intro game up from her previous scum game.

I appreciate the thought, but I'm not remotely smart enough for that and my wolf game is so f'ing rusty.

Ya, but I've spoken with your son, and if you raised that lad then you're more than smart enough to come up with such a scheme.



I'm denying your "not smart enough" claim, and I actually find it scummy you'd even use that as a defense.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:45 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:43 pm oh yeah scotty's ~claim & vanilla check on falcon are also townie

viewtopic.php?p=1020048#p1020048

~sheep

Because mafia can't have a role that works as role or vt cop?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:39 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:29 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:23 pm Can we afford me voting Guillo?

I’d not recommend it there’s too many unknowns still around KPs out there and if ender gives another suicide vest + we have standard kills it could put us in a bad spot

Are we gonna address the elephant in the room that mafia does not let a kp giver live for long if he is town?

The more pressing issue w/rt being alive is Neon tbh

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:49 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:45 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:43 pm oh yeah scotty's ~claim & vanilla check on falcon are also townie

viewtopic.php?p=1020048#p1020048

~sheep

Because mafia can't have a role that works as role or vt cop?

i need to sleep tbh

uh did you look a the post I linked idk bye

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:50 pmNeon can just kill slanks, all mafia has to do is not to slank

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:03 pm More on 3

Wilgy shot MR who was checked out and In the POE securing himself a solid town read.

The thing is NOBODY is talking about Wilgy being the one who is the least likely to be town. Why is that? It’s since this is all such a paranoid tinfoil theory that really doesn’t fit or make sense.

Mafia don’t have the numbers to shoot each other especially with the level of kp.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:51 pm Too bad Guillo doesn't have a wolf chat to keep him updated

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:44 pm @Kate same for you.

Is there a chance Golden is mafia?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:55 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:51 pm Too bad Guillo doesn't have a wolf chat to keep him updated

Counterpoint, i could ge faking it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:56 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:55 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:51 pm Too bad Guillo doesn't have a wolf chat to keep him updated

Counterpoint, i could ge faking it.

Countercounterpoint, you haven't posted in wolf chat for so long uwu

You signed up for a mafia game, but now you also get to play DnD! Kind of!! Yay!!!

Here's a server: redacted lol

Please note that your fellow DnD players are NOT guaranteed to be town.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:57 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:56 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:55 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:51 pm Too bad Guillo doesn't have a wolf chat to keep him updated

Counterpoint, i could ge faking it.

Countercounterpoint, you haven't posted in wolf chat for so long uwu

Countercountercounterpoint why are you trying to make us look like we are mafia wifoming?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:16 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:53 pm Was Michelle a deperado vigilante or something?

Ender unknowingly gave her a suicide vest and she tried taking svs out with her but svs didnt die, only michelle did. So now svs claimed being a 3p with a vest that she said she didnt realize would prevent a day kill and everybody is on svs wagon now

@EnderWiggin why did you target obvious town Michelle with that?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:58 pm @Kate and @Urist have been drowned in a vat of tomato soup. They both flip TOWN

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:58 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:16 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:53 pm Was Michelle a deperado vigilante or something?

Ender unknowingly gave her a suicide vest and she tried taking svs out with her but svs didnt die, only michelle did. So now svs claimed being a 3p with a vest that she said she didnt realize would prevent a day kill and everybody is on svs wagon now

@EnderWiggin why did you target obvious town Michelle with that?

I thought I was giving her a gun. Which I have said. Multiple times. In posts WHILE you have been active.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:00 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:58 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:16 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 3:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 2:53 pm Was Michelle a deperado vigilante or something?

Ender unknowingly gave her a suicide vest and she tried taking svs out with her but svs didnt die, only michelle did. So now svs claimed being a 3p with a vest that she said she didnt realize would prevent a day kill and everybody is on svs wagon now

@EnderWiggin why did you target obvious town Michelle with that?

I thought I was giving her a gun. Which I have said. Multiple times. In posts WHILE you have been active.

Is there a point to point that out?

Oh yes! Maybe im mafia faking not seeing your posts in a game with 300 pages that i got zero interest to catch up on.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:00 pm Interesting that so many other claimants didn't get hit.

Unless they tried me with my specifically vague info and got bounced

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:01 pm I thought something like that might happen tbh. Who else has claimed or has known roles?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:02 pm I think Golden claimed a specific name for his role? Guillo should be an obvious role?