Re: Psych Mafia [Night 6]
Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:35 pm

Spacedaisy wrote:At this point I would like to request everyone does a quick refresher of the rules, here is the link for easy access. Also, the original post has been updated with revealed role information.
And FYI, DFaraday voted for Scotty Day 1 and 2. So there's that.WTF guys wrote:Scotty
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Russtifinko (3), birdwithteeth11 (6), Matt (11), LoRab (12), Elohcin (13), timmer (14), BigDamnHero (15), sig (16), Epignosis (17) 50%
Scotty 2.0
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Elohcin (7), birdwithteeth11 (8), sig (9), DFaraday (18)
NOW YOU WANT TO????BigDamnHero wrote:I'm in b the middle of a football game...BWT explaination satisfies my quarries. Changing my vote to timmer...I'll post a longer explaination later...if I'm still around. Apologies for any part I may have played in the current situations.
This all seems like the best course of action to me.Russtifinko wrote:NOW YOU WANT TO????BigDamnHero wrote:I'm in b the middle of a football game...BWT explaination satisfies my quarries. Changing my vote to timmer...I'll post a longer explaination later...if I'm still around. Apologies for any part I may have played in the current situations.
AUGH!
RIP Scotty. Now you guys can clearly see there was nothing going on between me and him. So, can we PLEASE:
1) Stop listening to Epi
2) Lynch timmer
3) In all honesty, probably lynch Epi at this point. Let's be real, he's led like 3 bad lynches and shown no sign of letting up.
Larger explaination later but I had to switch my vote from BWT quick and didn't wanna go with eloh or Scotty (both of whom I posted about earlier today)Russtifinko wrote:NOW YOU WANT TO????BigDamnHero wrote:I'm in b the middle of a football game...BWT explaination satisfies my quarries. Changing my vote to timmer...I'll post a longer explaination later...if I'm still around. Apologies for any part I may have played in the current situations.
AUGH!
RIP Scotty. Now you guys can clearly see there was nothing going on between me and him. So, can we PLEASE:
1) Stop listening to Epi
2) Lynch timmer
3) In all honesty, probably lynch Epi at this point. Let's be real, he's led like 3 bad lynches and shown no sign of letting up.
After talking to the host, I feel I need to proceed with caution and discretion. Sufficed to say, BWT's explaination of things 100% satisfies my conflict towards him effectively going for Defcon 1 all the way back down to Defcon 5. Unfortunately, without further violating the rules, I can't really answer your question. Now let me be clear that this in NO WAY confirms/clarifies his allignment in any way. There's a lot of baddies out there and we haven't scored so much as a whiff of one during our lynches.birdwithteeth11 wrote:BDH, I know how you think you got info on me. The item I was holding at the time was the necklace. It was an item that was auto-activated based on you using your ability on me. I did not actively choose to use the item at that time, so it wasn't like I was holding it for some strategical moment to happen and then me use the item because it benefited me in a certain scenario.
Based on what information you received, what specific part of it makes you believe I am bad?
Not letting up? What does that mean? The only way I "let up" is to vote correctly or not vote at all, and I can assure you that the latter isn't happening. I removed my vote from Scotty yesterday when I had good reason to do so and put it elsewhere, so I'm not sure if that qualifies as "letting up" in your book.Russtifinko wrote:NOW YOU WANT TO????BigDamnHero wrote:I'm in b the middle of a football game...BWT explaination satisfies my quarries. Changing my vote to timmer...I'll post a longer explaination later...if I'm still around. Apologies for any part I may have played in the current situations.
AUGH!
RIP Scotty. Now you guys can clearly see there was nothing going on between me and him. So, can we PLEASE:
1) Stop listening to Epi
2) Lynch timmer
3) In all honesty, probably lynch Epi at this point. Let's be real, he's led like 3 bad lynches and shown no sign of letting up.
I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
Uh, no it isn't. It's still zero. It means you've been just as ineffective at lynching Mafia.Russtifinko wrote:I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
Russ has lead the charge against one civilian: Scotty 1.0Epignosis wrote:Uh, no it isn't. It's still zero. It means you've been just as ineffective at lynching Mafia.Russtifinko wrote:I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
And?insertnamehere wrote:Russ has lead the charge against one civilian: Scotty 1.0Epignosis wrote:Uh, no it isn't. It's still zero. It means you've been just as ineffective at lynching Mafia.Russtifinko wrote:I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
You've lead the charge against multiple civvies.
Gonna get pedantic, here.Epignosis wrote:Uh, no it isn't. It's still zero. It means you've been just as ineffective at lynching Mafia.Russtifinko wrote:I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
Russtifinko wrote:Gonna get pedantic, here.Epignosis wrote:Uh, no it isn't. It's still zero. It means you've been just as ineffective at lynching Mafia.Russtifinko wrote:I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
Epi: Yes, 0/1 and 0/4 both come up to a 0% success rate. Good job, you can math.
However, in mafia there's a time component as well. See, every night, baddies get to kill someone to thin out the ranks.
Thanks for explaining how Mafia works.Russtifinko wrote: This essentially put us civs on a clock. Get enough correct lynches, you win, don't get enough, you lose.
Guess what? If you are a civilian, then every lynch that isn't lynching Mafia is just as muchyour fault. Unless you were kicking and screaming otherwise, you are just as blameworthy for a bad lynch. Make better cases. Convince more people. Don't blame the leader because you didn't get what you wanted. Be a better leader. But you didn't have the strength to save the day yesterday. What a pity.Epignosis wrote:The reason 0/1 is WAYYYY better than 0/4 is, every mislynch shortens that clock the civs are on. There are a max number of lynches we have to get this right, and every mislynch you lead gets us closer to running out.
Still nil.Russtifinko wrote:So yes, 0/1 and 0/4 yield the same percentage, but also yes, 0/4 is WAAAAAYYYYYY worse than 0/1.
I say you're bad. You are telling people to quit listening to me because that 0/4 will be 1/5, and someone I'm after will be dead. You're scared. I'm ready for the next Day phase.Russtifinko wrote:Now instead of trying to have the last word in a pissing contest, how about we lynch some baddies? I nominate timmer, followed by you. What do you say to my timmer case? You pretty much ignored it at the time, which is weird since I'd think a guy dominating the thread the way you have would be happy to get some help in analysis/casebuilding.
I don't know why, but this response in hindsight makes me feel...uncomfortable. In an, "I don't want to be decisive in this lynch and have something fall back on me" kind of way.Epignosis wrote:I'm not moving. Let this decide who dies.
"Nice NO U?"Russtifinko wrote:Nice NO U, Epi. I'd be shocked if people aren't tired of your tricks by now, so let's tango, amigo.
In all seriousness, if you could avoid mocking me over "not having the strength" the previous Day, that'd be cool. I had one of the worst weeks of my life last week. My sister, one of the closest people in the world to me, might literally die. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything about it and made my lack of mental energy for mafia fair game for you to blast me over. Lesson learned - I won't mention it again. Let's keep focused on in-thread acitvity from now on, please.
That was Day 3, Russ2.Epignosis wrote:I'm going to vote in the morning. My vote will go to either Scotty or Russtifinko. Probably the latter. His recent posts are not truth-seeking but rather narrative-selling.
Russ says I'm the leader of civilian death.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I don't know why, but this response in hindsight makes me feel...uncomfortable. In an, "I don't want to be decisive in this lynch and have something fall back on me" kind of way.Epignosis wrote:I'm not moving. Let this decide who dies.
Nothing other than a hunch and gut feeling though.
I could possibly be persuaded into a Timmer lynch. Not sure how likely currently but the possibility is there.Russtifinko wrote:NOW YOU WANT TO????BigDamnHero wrote:I'm in b the middle of a football game...BWT explaination satisfies my quarries. Changing my vote to timmer...I'll post a longer explaination later...if I'm still around. Apologies for any part I may have played in the current situations.
AUGH!
RIP Scotty. Now you guys can clearly see there was nothing going on between me and him. So, can we PLEASE:
1) Stop listening to Epi
2) Lynch timmer
3) In all honesty, probably lynch Epi at this point. Let's be real, he's led like 3 bad lynches and shown no sign of letting up.
insertnamehere wrote:well shit.
RIP sig
I can't believe I'm actually saying this in this game, but I agree with INH here. Epig, you've lead several lynches and we have nothing to show for it but several more dead civs.insertnamehere wrote:Russ has lead the charge against one civilian: Scotty 1.0Epignosis wrote:Uh, no it isn't. It's still zero. It means you've been just as ineffective at lynching Mafia.Russtifinko wrote:I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
You've lead the charge against multiple civvies.
Out of curiosity (as I was mildly interested in a potential Timmer lynch not all that long ago), why are you interested in lynching Timmer before Epig?Russtifinko wrote:Gonna get pedantic, here.Epignosis wrote:Uh, no it isn't. It's still zero. It means you've been just as ineffective at lynching Mafia.Russtifinko wrote:I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
Epi: Yes, 0/1 and 0/4 both come up to a 0% success rate. Good job, you can math.
However, in mafia there's a time component as well. See, every night, baddies get to kill someone to thin out the ranks. This essentially put us civs on a clock. Get enough correct lynches, you win, don't get enough, you lose.
The reason 0/1 is WAYYYY better than 0/4 is, every mislynch shortens that clock the civs are on. There are a max number of lynches we have to get this right, and every mislynch you lead gets us closer to running out.
So yes, 0/1 and 0/4 yield the same percentage, but also yes, 0/4 is WAAAAAYYYYYY worse than 0/1.
Now instead of trying to have the last word in a pissing contest, how about we lynch some baddies? I nominate timmer, followed by you. What do you say to my timmer case? You pretty much ignored it at the time, which is weird since I'd think a guy dominating the thread the way you have would be happy to get some help in analysis/casebuilding.
Is that my fault?birdwithteeth11 wrote:I can't believe I'm actually saying this in this game, but I agree with INH here. Epig, you've lead several lynches and we have nothing to show for it but several more dead civs.insertnamehere wrote:Russ has lead the charge against one civilian: Scotty 1.0Epignosis wrote:Uh, no it isn't. It's still zero. It means you've been just as ineffective at lynching Mafia.Russtifinko wrote:I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
You've lead the charge against multiple civvies.
After this last lynch, I'm starting to entertain the thought that maybe Russ is on to something with you.
Yesbirdwithteeth11 wrote:Ummmm....I just saw the lynch poll.
@Hosts: Is there a reason there are only 2 options on the poll for today?![]()
I have no interest in changing your mind. I'm just ecstatic that I get to lynch Russ without interference. And when he is shown as bad, you are next.insertnamehere wrote:This lynch poll is BS by the way. I already voted because I doubt Epi will be able to change my mind on Russ' alignment.
I'd rather lynch someone I have little to no impression of (DFaraday) than the only other person who's calling Epi out on his shit.
And "ha ha" to Epi's latest round of smug condescension and his pissing contest with me and Russ.
You bastards!Spacedaisy wrote:Day 7 - What is a show without its star?
Sig has been killed by the Crooked Cops. He was Shawn Spencer, psychic detective.
No one cracked the safe. You have 48 to lynch someone. Good hunting!
Epignosis wrote:And?insertnamehere wrote:Russ has lead the charge against one civilian: Scotty 1.0Epignosis wrote:Uh, no it isn't. It's still zero. It means you've been just as ineffective at lynching Mafia.Russtifinko wrote:I mean, I get the idea, I guess. It just came a little late for anyone to do anything about it, which is disappointing.BigDamnHero wrote: Both SCotty and Eloh were tied at the time and I didn't want either to go down so I felt moving my vote to timmer may cause others to do so as well and thus potentially saving a couple civs.
Probably 2, tbqh, although no one seems to be listening to me on it. But any way you slice it, an 0/1 success rate is a hell of a lot better than 0/4.Epignosis wrote:How many mafia have you caught, Russ?
You've lead the charge against multiple civvies.
Lemme see if I get this straight. You feel like lynching civilians is something that EVERY player is guilty of equally. Even if they voted against the civ and argued against the case, they're as much responsible as the person leading the damn faulty lynch in the first place? This is beyond delusional.Epignosis wrote:Guess what? If you are a civilian, then every lynch that isn't lynching Mafia is just as muchyour fault. Unless you were kicking and screaming otherwise, you are just as blameworthy for a bad lynch. Make better cases. Convince more people. Don't blame the leader because you didn't get what you wanted. Be a better leader. But you didn't have the strength to save the day yesterday. What a pity.Russtifinko wrote:The reason 0/1 is WAYYYY better than 0/4 is, every mislynch shortens that clock the civs are on. There are a max number of lynches we have to get this right, and every mislynch you lead gets us closer to running out.
Yeah, I know. Sorry if I took it out on u at all. Just please be cognizant that there may be events going on irl for people that may not leave much mental energy for mafia, legitimately. Like I said, lesson learned for bringing it up.Epignosis wrote:"Nice NO U?"Russtifinko wrote:Nice NO U, Epi. I'd be shocked if people aren't tired of your tricks by now, so let's tango, amigo.
In all seriousness, if you could avoid mocking me over "not having the strength" the previous Day, that'd be cool. I had one of the worst weeks of my life last week. My sister, one of the closest people in the world to me, might literally die. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything about it and made my lack of mental energy for mafia fair game for you to blast me over. Lesson learned - I won't mention it again. Let's keep focused on in-thread acitvity from now on, please.
That was Day 3, Russ2.Epignosis wrote:I'm going to vote in the morning. My vote will go to either Scotty or Russtifinko. Probably the latter. His recent posts are not truth-seeking but rather narrative-selling.
I hope your sister makes it out okay, buddy. Truly. I had no idea.
That isn't what I said or implied.insertnamehere wrote:Lemme see if I get this straight. You feel like lynching civilians is something that EVERY player is guilty of equally. Even if they voted against the civ and argued against the case, they're as much responsible as the person leading the damn faulty lynch in the first place? This is beyond delusional.Epignosis wrote:Guess what? If you are a civilian, then every lynch that isn't lynching Mafia is just as muchyour fault. Unless you were kicking and screaming otherwise, you are just as blameworthy for a bad lynch. Make better cases. Convince more people. Don't blame the leader because you didn't get what you wanted. Be a better leader. But you didn't have the strength to save the day yesterday. What a pity.Russtifinko wrote:The reason 0/1 is WAYYYY better than 0/4 is, every mislynch shortens that clock the civs are on. There are a max number of lynches we have to get this right, and every mislynch you lead gets us closer to running out.
Epi. Dude. My friend.
What the fuck are you on and where can I get some?
Frankly, I think you're too damn intelligent to honestly believe that leading multiple lynches against civilians is "no biggie." This is a NO U, and don't think for a second that it isn't.
"I had no idea that all of these civilians I lynched were civilians, that's a total bummer. I blame that Russtifinko guy who thought I was lynching civilians the whole time. If he really didn't want me to be lynching civilians, he would have just tried harder to keep me from repeatedly screwing over the civilians. It's all 100% his fault. We should totes lynch him, mmmkay?"
That's TOTALLY me. I made shitty cars. If you don't like what I made, don't buy them. That's the free market. Buy someone else's cars.insertnamehere wrote:It's like Epi is a car manufacturer who makes faulty cars with busted brakes and non-working airbags, and he's trying to justify it by saying "If all those people who died by driving in my shitty cars wanted not to die, they should've just bought a different car."
Is there anyone who's posted in the thread that they disagree with your leadership that you DON'T think is bad?Epignosis wrote:That isn't what I said or implied.
If you don't like the leadership, throw your own hat in the ring. Don't sit in the corner with your thumb up your butt and then get pissy when things don't go the way you want them to.
But you're bad too, so that's okay. My leadership is good because it's honest. Your leadership is bad because it is nonexistent.
Uhhhh....what??? You are an entire 24 hours late.birdwithteeth11 wrote:I could possibly be persuaded into a Timmer lynch. Not sure how likely currently but the possibility is there.Russtifinko wrote:NOW YOU WANT TO????BigDamnHero wrote:I'm in b the middle of a football game...BWT explaination satisfies my quarries. Changing my vote to timmer...I'll post a longer explaination later...if I'm still around. Apologies for any part I may have played in the current situations.
AUGH!
RIP Scotty. Now you guys can clearly see there was nothing going on between me and him. So, can we PLEASE:
1) Stop listening to Epi
2) Lynch timmer
3) In all honesty, probably lynch Epi at this point. Let's be real, he's led like 3 bad lynches and shown no sign of letting up.
Honestly, I'm not sure about who the best candidate to lynch right now is. Scotty coming up civ threw me for enough of a loop that I need to get my bearings. Again.
Linki: Son of a...
RIP Sig.
See: Russ' case on timmer. He soft-defended MM, refused to vote him for reasons that were questionable at best, and pulled 2 gigantic 180s on the same day to (I suspect) save a baddie teammate.birdwithteeth11 wrote:Out of curiosity (as I was mildly interested in a potential Timmer lynch not all that long ago), why are you interested in lynching Timmer before Epig?
I'm saying that the government is obligated to crack down on businesses who push products that hurt people, you libertarian sun of a gun.Epignosis wrote:That's TOTALLY me. I made shitty cars. If you don't like what I made, don't buy them. That's the free market. Buy someone else's cars.insertnamehere wrote:It's like Epi is a car manufacturer who makes faulty cars with busted brakes and non-working airbags, and he's trying to justify it by saying "If all those people who died by driving in my shitty cars wanted not to die, they should've just bought a different car."
You're not saying whose cars should be bought though. You're just bitching about me.
Epi is actually right on this. Thing is, I did have original ideas (lynch timmer). Epi and pretty much everyone else ignored them. Epi, I'm not saying it's your fault you're king of the thread. I said a few days ago that someone had to fill the power vacuum. I am saying that you've been wrong so consistently that it might be worth trying a new tack.Epignosis wrote:A leader is worthless without followers. I did my best. People followed. People should have original ideas if they don't like mine.
If I'm bad, thing's are totally going my way.insertnamehere wrote:Is there anyone who's posted in the thread that they disagree with your leadership that you DON'T think is bad?Epignosis wrote:That isn't what I said or implied.
If you don't like the leadership, throw your own hat in the ring. Don't sit in the corner with your thumb up your butt and then get pissy when things don't go the way you want them to.
But you're bad too, so that's okay. My leadership is good because it's honest. Your leadership is bad because it is nonexistent.
This just isn't how life works, Epi. You can't do shitty things and blame other people for allowing you to do those shitty things.
Here's the next referendum from my "nonexistent leadership":
Today, we lynch DFaraday. Tomorrow, Epignosis.
Please discuss.
And Epi, try to actually admit that you fucked up instead of getting pissy because things aren't going your way.
He might be. But even if he is, he would have no way to know you're not, because there are 2 baddie factions. So he literally cannot mean he knows your civ from this unless he has some way of getting info we're not aware of.Epignosis wrote:If I'm bad, thing's are totally going my way.insertnamehere wrote:Is there anyone who's posted in the thread that they disagree with your leadership that you DON'T think is bad?Epignosis wrote:That isn't what I said or implied.
If you don't like the leadership, throw your own hat in the ring. Don't sit in the corner with your thumb up your butt and then get pissy when things don't go the way you want them to.
But you're bad too, so that's okay. My leadership is good because it's honest. Your leadership is bad because it is nonexistent.
This just isn't how life works, Epi. You can't do shitty things and blame other people for allowing you to do those shitty things.
Here's the next referendum from my "nonexistent leadership":
Today, we lynch DFaraday. Tomorrow, Epignosis.
Please discuss.
And Epi, try to actually admit that you fucked up instead of getting pissy because things aren't going your way.
But you just revealed they aren't.
You are bad.
Seriously dude? Are you that desperate to blame someone for your mistakes that you have to find some BS little detail in my posts, removing it of all context, and deeming it "obviously alignment indicative."Epignosis wrote:If I'm bad, thing's are totally going my way.insertnamehere wrote:And Epi, try to actually admit that you fucked up instead of getting pissy because things aren't going your way.
But you just revealed they aren't.
You are bad.
I'm not pissy. I'm pleased.insertnamehere wrote:Seriously dude? Are you that desperate to blame someone for your mistakes that you have to find some BS little detail in my posts, removing it of all context, and deeming it "obviously alignment indicative."Epignosis wrote:If I'm bad, thing's are totally going my way.insertnamehere wrote:And Epi, try to actually admit that you fucked up instead of getting pissy because things aren't going your way.
But you just revealed they aren't.
You are bad.
I meant that you're getting pissy because people are QUESTIONING YOU and CALLING YOU ON YOUR SHIT. I thought that was obvious to anyone not looking at all of my posts desperately looking for reasons to lynch his doubters.