The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote:Here's something that has me doubting that Eloh is bad, "would Mongoose give the information that is in Elohs head (from her last role) to an entire team?"

DrWilgy wrote:Ok, here's an issue.

"I wanna lynch Wilgy because he's not very vocal"
"I wanna lynch Wilgy because he's now vocal"

Eloh, Boomslang and Scotty can I please have context as to how I'm forcing posts or suspicion unrelated to my post count?

Elohcin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I think that y'all need to give me at least day to prove myself, I would hope.

I don't necessarily oppose that notion, but if you were to receive that kind of "extension" it'd be vital that you use it to your fullest advantage. The only read of yours that I have an idea of is Quin; it'd be good to know how you feel about everyone else.

No pressure, right?

Well, after reading through the thread today, I have two suspicions.
#1 is Wilgy. Quiet...quiet...quiet....And then he is here with fire. Makes me wonder if he is bad, was laying low, and then suddenly felt the need to come in and defend himself because his teammates said so.
#2 is Epi. I know I kind of said this, but I replaced in and he was on me before I could post. Really? I understand there is a possibility that someone comes back bad, but don't you think you ought to give them a chance to at least speak first? If he is civ, I would think he would want to at least hear from me. If he is bad, jumping on me before I can even say anything is an amazing opportunity for him because he KNOWS I am no good at defending myself even if I am civ.

I would be willing to vote either Epi, Wilgy, or Quin today.

DrWilgy wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:@LC and Wilgy: Would either of you be down for a Llama lynch?

He's the most solid negative read I have right now, so I'm inclined to vote in his direction.

Mine as well, but my read is entirely tone. What triggers your suspicion inh?

DrWilgy wrote:Yes, but only half as tasty.

So I'm caught up and I see that several of you would like to cook me. Makes sense as all I've provided the last 2 days are excuses.

@Marmot my top 3 suspects are Llama, JJJ and idk.

I would've probably voted for JJJ yesterday had I been around, while mostly tonal, his stance on his suspects has been too rigid for what I expect of JJJ. I think a good comparison is his performance in Mad Max (civilian) where during my lynch he was jumping in and out of suspicion on multiple people. I'm not seeing anything comparable to Mad Max JJJ.

Nothing has improved my read on Llama, but his discussion with Quin yesterday has actually reinforced the negative tones I felt before. I suppose something that does make me doubt my original read on Llama slightly is the lack of INH. I don't know where his suspicion of Llama went even though it was similar to mine.

The part that throws me for a loop is that I feel no reason to remove the possibility that JJJ and Llama are teammates. A pattern of 2 high posters would normally cause me to assume that only 1 of them could be bad, but I do not feel that this time.

I'm finding it difficult to actually say that I have a 3rd suspect, but that could also be due to how pivotal this game has been. If I couldn't place a vote on Llama or JJJ, I may vote for INH or Epi.

INH, LC and Quin can I have you 3 let me know full reads on the other 2 in this group?

Niju, Marmot, and Epi can I have you 3 let me know full reads on the other 2 in this group?

DrWilgy wrote:@LC, why do I need to have a reason for asking questions? Also now that I've explained it, can I have a response to your reads on INH and Quin?

insertnamehere wrote:@LC and Wilgy: Would either of you be down for a Llama lynch?

He's the most solid negative read I have right now, so I'm inclined to vote in his direction.

insertnamehere wrote:I still think our triple lettered friend is bluffing.

Even if he won a one-time lynch immunity, I doubt he'd use it today.

I can definitely see him using it tomorrow, though. That's partly why I want him out today.

I also don't understand the Wilgy case.

insertnamehere wrote:I will say that the last second flood of Wilgy votes once it was clear 3J ain't going nowhere rustles my jimmies a little bit. Couple of folks really wanted some credit, methinks.

DrWilgy wrote:

Long Con wrote:A Series of Unfortunate Events Mafia.

I don't have a system to determine which low posters are bad, besides lynch em all and let God sort em out...but I do have some sure-fire advice to increase your chances of lynching Mafia: don't lynch me.

Same tbh

DrWilgy wrote:

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I'm caught up. I'm just going to blame Marmot friend for my troubles.

Someone interact with me.

Hey Wilgy...pretend stuff people said to each other was said to you, and respond.

Interacted!

But there's too much to address. The only two I'm concerned with atm are Llama and Epi, but Epi has already addressed the post that gaveme the heebie jeebies.

Specifics LC!

DrWilgy wrote:

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

The last time Wilgy posted this face when someone didn't do what he wanted, he was bad.

You aren't wrong. What game was this though?

Linki - I remember that post. 1 second.

You never followed up on this. Felt like a nice, solid citation was coming.

It was, but then school stuff got in the way. The tl;dr is I agree with the case. Putting Sriracha in the blending player category felt more condemning than his vote. what did llama expect after calling her out? Was he hoping she would go "and here's a case?"

Now that Llama is catching up, I hope to have a response soon.

DrWilgy wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I would've probably voted for JJJ yesterday had I been around, while mostly tonal, his stance on his suspects has been too rigid for what I expect of JJJ. I think a good comparison is his performance in Mad Max (civilian) where during my lynch he was jumping in and out of suspicion on multiple people. I'm not seeing anything comparable to Mad Max JJJ.

Name a suspect I have rigidly suspected other than Long Con. Then tell me what you think of Long Con.

Marmot.

In regards to LC, I reviewed his ISO upon you asking me this and realized that I think he's civ not based upon what he's said, but what you've stated (this is also on the premise that you are bad). In the scenario where you aren't bad, I have a solid null on him. I am in agreement with his views regarding your interactions with Marmot however.

DrWilgy wrote:

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:INH, LC and Quin can I have you 3 let me know full reads on the other 2 in this group?

Why?

Niju, Marmot, and Epi can I have you 3 let me know full reads on the other 2 in this group?

Why?

This type of seemingly arbitrary grouping and cross-read requests is suspicious to me. Feels like you're caught in a baddie mode and are using thread techniques to stir up more interactions with players so that you can craft your own presence into something more Civ-seeming than it has been.

Two sentences, and you've planted the seeds for six different players to engage with you about players who are not you. I believe it's artificial.

These 2 groups voted together 2 days in a row. I'd like to know more about them.

Quin wrote:Wilgy, what's your GTH read on Boomslang?

Bad, but I know that's tinfoil. All rational thinking in the world opposes this thought.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I have been calling Marmot a civilian for the last four phases. Where do you get that idea?

Gimme a GTH read on Long Con in a world where I am a civilian.

If you are civilian, then I'd gth him bad. I don't think that you two are on the same team.

Sorry if, I missed/confused your thoughts, I'll go through your ISO now. You have made me doubtful.

Here's something that has me doubting that Eloh is bad, "would Mongoose give the information that is in Elohs head (from her last role) to an entire team?"

Long Con wrote:

thellama73 wrote:And who is in your sights today, LC?

Well, not you today, though I don't feel the same as INH. His turnaround is not entirely logical to me, and that's a negative mark in my book.

Elohcin I'm a little leaning toward, I'd like to see some expansion on her accusations of Quin immediately after the night ended. "Sneaky tone" and something about his defenses not being genuine. That's cake vague, Elohcin... explain please.

I like Quin right now, I think he's Civ.

I never like folks who haven't posted enough. Made, MP, A Person... I would have to look to see who else. Nothing against nijuu right now, and I am not feeling the marmot lynch. Wilgy is someone I would vote for based on the things others have said, which I feel agreeable about.

Scotty and Sorsha are pretty neutral reads. Boomslang is cool, his JJJ analysis gives me hope for humanity.

At this point, I would vote for JJJ if folks are looking that way.

Long Con wrote:Catan is cool. I don't trade away wheat though.

Boomslang, JJJ, INH. I chose INH because you took Wilgy. He's my wild card addition.

And Eloh, I believe that the #3 option is equally likely whether or not a baddie is lynched on Day 1. If they're crazy enough to pull the stunt, they're crazy enough to do it either way. And I mean crazy in a good way, because I think it's an awesome trick, and it's my top choice for an explanation.

Long Con wrote:I voted JJJ... this funky daytime rumble deserves a shakeup. If you agree that he's bad and lying about unlynchability, join me!

Or, vote Wilgy. That's cool too in my books.

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:INH, LC and Quin can I have you 3 let me know full reads on the other 2 in this group?

Why?

Niju, Marmot, and Epi can I have you 3 let me know full reads on the other 2 in this group?

Why?

This type of seemingly arbitrary grouping and cross-read requests is suspicious to me. Feels like you're caught in a baddie mode and are using thread techniques to stir up more interactions with players so that you can craft your own presence into something more Civ-seeming than it has been.

Two sentences, and you've planted the seeds for six different players to engage with you about players who are not you. I believe it's artificial.

Long Con wrote:Okay, you're probably right. I'm doing that plan next time I have the opportunity though.

I'm not really interested in arguing the badness of Boomslang. I think Wilgy and JJJ are better choices.

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:What are common thoughts on Scotty and Sriracha?

Two tough calls. I have enough suspicions that I am not considering them for now. If things don't pan out, they'll be up for lynch considerations sooner than those I believe in. And I am rarely straightforward about who I believe in.

@LC, why do I need to have a reason for asking questions? Also now that I've explained it, can I have a response to your reads on INH and Quin?

If you don't have a reason for asking questions, then I imagine your questions would be quite random and pointless.

I appreciated your explanation, now I see that you didn't just grab three names out of a hat, twice.

INH is an odd duck, and his disappearance is the oddest thing about him. Who knows? He needs to come back and engage, or I'd vote for him just due to the unresolved black mark on his record that is his Llama turnaround.

Quin I keep going back and forth on. Tough call!