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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:59 pm
by insertnamehere
quickly popping in to throw out a useless vote

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:09 pm
by sig
insertnamehere wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:59 pm quickly popping in to throw out a useless vote

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
I'll omgus on this. :p

[VOTE: insertnamehere] aubergine

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:10 pm
by sig
Cant post much right now but I'll be back in a bit to talk.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:13 pm
by Epignosis
It's Day 11. Most Mafia games are winding down or have ended by this point.
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:47 am
No opinion right now on Epi, DDL, Quin & cbob.
I do not understand how one could have no opinion on four people at this stage.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:18 pm
by sprityo
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:13 pm It's Day 11. Most Mafia games are winding down or have ended by this point.
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:47 am
No opinion right now on Epi, DDL, Quin & cbob.
I do not understand how one could have no opinion on four people at this stage.
those four people at that

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:18 pm
by Scotty
S~V~S wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:57 pm OK, after I voted this is what the screen looks like, I am sure it is a glitch, but ha ha

Image
There is...no glitch.

Image

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:19 pm
by S~V~S
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:13 pm It's Day 11. Most Mafia games are winding down or have ended by this point.
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:47 am
No opinion right now on Epi, DDL, Quin & cbob.
I do not understand how one could have no opinion on four people at this stage.
They are all Pikachus, and her rl took off around the time the tribes merged would be my guess.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:24 pm
by Epignosis
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:08 pm
S~V~S wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:40 pmOK, this may sound weird (and maybe I should have put this whole post in green, but meh, the first part is kind of on topic)

I don't know what it is called, it isn't really "synesthesia" but that may be a helpful comparison. You know how when I talk about my gut or how someone makes me feel, well, that isn't 100% accurate. I associate people with colors, I don't "see" colors, but I think them. I don't assign them myself or anything, they just happen. When someone feels different to me, that is why. Their color seems off. It doesn't happen with everyone, but when it does I feel that I tend to read them better than not. It helps me translate peoples emotional content in a way I can process better. I tend to see you as a springtime person, a nice leaf green.

This game, I am not seeing your color at all (I KNOW THIS SOUNDS SO WEIRD, but it is what it is; just keeping it real). And what you say kind of explains that for me.
haha yeah that is pretty weird :p but cool
I experience the same thing, but with letters, numbers, and music.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:33 pm
by S~V~S
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:08 pm
S~V~S wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:40 pmOK, this may sound weird (and maybe I should have put this whole post in green, but meh, the first part is kind of on topic)

I don't know what it is called, it isn't really "synesthesia" but that may be a helpful comparison. You know how when I talk about my gut or how someone makes me feel, well, that isn't 100% accurate. I associate people with colors, I don't "see" colors, but I think them. I don't assign them myself or anything, they just happen. When someone feels different to me, that is why. Their color seems off. It doesn't happen with everyone, but when it does I feel that I tend to read them better than not. It helps me translate peoples emotional content in a way I can process better. I tend to see you as a springtime person, a nice leaf green.

This game, I am not seeing your color at all (I KNOW THIS SOUNDS SO WEIRD, but it is what it is; just keeping it real). And what you say kind of explains that for me.
haha yeah that is pretty weird :p but cool
I experience the same thing, but with letters, numbers, and music.
That sounds like a form of synesthesia, it's quantifiable. Something like 2-3 % of people have that naturally. It's very interesting and people look at you funny at parties. It runs in familes, do any of your kids have it? :beer:

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:35 pm
by Epignosis
S~V~S wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:24 pm
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:08 pm
S~V~S wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:40 pmOK, this may sound weird (and maybe I should have put this whole post in green, but meh, the first part is kind of on topic)

I don't know what it is called, it isn't really "synesthesia" but that may be a helpful comparison. You know how when I talk about my gut or how someone makes me feel, well, that isn't 100% accurate. I associate people with colors, I don't "see" colors, but I think them. I don't assign them myself or anything, they just happen. When someone feels different to me, that is why. Their color seems off. It doesn't happen with everyone, but when it does I feel that I tend to read them better than not. It helps me translate peoples emotional content in a way I can process better. I tend to see you as a springtime person, a nice leaf green.

This game, I am not seeing your color at all (I KNOW THIS SOUNDS SO WEIRD, but it is what it is; just keeping it real). And what you say kind of explains that for me.
haha yeah that is pretty weird :p but cool
I experience the same thing, but with letters, numbers, and music.
That sounds like a form of synesthesia, it's quantifiable. Something like 2-3 % of people have that naturally. It's very interesting and people look at you funny at parties. It runs in familes, do any of your kids have it? :beer:
I don't get invited to parties.

When I explained it to Simon, he acted like it made perfect sense and told me what color certain numbers and letters were.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:35 pm
by Golden
I am entirely unsurprised that Simon experiences it.

I was just regaling SVS of the way it manifests with me.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:38 pm
by Golden
It was an off day in space. Kylemii had been holding his volleyball when everyone moved to space, which everyone was thankful for. "Lets play space volleyball", said Scotty.

They all suited up and went out into the vacuum of space. They tethered the nets to two handy spacecraft that were moving at an identical vector and velocity, otherwise the game would have been ruined quite quickly.

Dom did a flip.

Nijuukyugou showed off her moonwalk.

It seemed as though DrWilgy was saying something. It's possible he was screaming. But in space, noone can hear you.


"This is not a rainbow list" wrote Epignosis on a pad he had in his hand, just in case anyone would read it. He wasn't really into volleyball at all.

Dr Wilgy started going blue. Later on they noticed somebody had disconnected his oxygen tank. No-one really minded, though - they knew that whoever had done it was simply exercising the collective will of the people.


Day 11 has ended. DrWilgy has been lynched. He was:
66: Dhalsim (Street Fighter II). Once in the game, you may teleport during the night phase, randomising all player targets for that night. You are MAFIA and a member of STREXCORP.


It is now night 11. It will last for 24 hours, meaning you have 22 hours to get your PMs in

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:40 pm
by DharmaHelper
Fuckin' merked 'em lads

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:42 pm
by S~V~S
Yay! Good job everyone!!!

Bye Wilgy :hugs: Hope life evens out :)

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:43 pm
by DharmaHelper
Speedchuck
10
48%
Voters: sprityo, Scotty, DharmaHelper, Dom, Kylemii, S~V~S, sig, insertnamehere, colonialbob, Dragon D. Luffy
Anybody want to put money down on who from these voters are StrexCorp?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:43 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
I was gonna be really frustrated if both Speed and WIlgy were civ.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:45 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Sometimes I imagine numbers with colors but that's not a thing that happens often so maybe everybody has some acess to synesthesia and you guys just do it all the time.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:46 pm
by S~V~S
This totally realigns how I feel about some people. While Wilgys teammates would have known he wanted to be replaced, and felt free to vote for him, the Fab Five hypothesis looks a lot better to me.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:49 pm
by Kylemii
!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:49 pm
by sprityo
Golden wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:38 pm
It was an off day in space. Kylemii had been holding his volleyball when everyone moved to space, which everyone was thankful for. "Lets play space volleyball", said Scotty.

They all suited up and went out into the vacuum of space. They tethered the nets to two handy spacecraft that were moving at an identical vector and velocity, otherwise the game would have been ruined quite quickly.

Dom did a flip.

Nijuukyugou showed off her moonwalk.

It seemed as though DrWilgy was saying something. It's possible he was screaming. But in space, noone can hear you.


"This is not a rainbow list" wrote Epignosis on a pad he had in his hand, just in case anyone would read it. He wasn't really into volleyball at all.

Dr Wilgy started going blue. Later on they noticed somebody had disconnected his oxygen tank. No-one really minded, though - they knew that whoever had done it was simply exercising the collective will of the people.


Day 11 has ended. DrWilgy has been lynched. He was:
66: Dhalsim (Street Fighter II). Once in the game, you may teleport during the night phase, randomising all player targets for that night. You are MAFIA and a member of STREXCORP.


It is now night 11. It will last for 24 hours, meaning you have 22 hours to get your PMs in
:clap:

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:53 pm
by Scotty
Yay! Sounds like Wilgy May have even used his power last night. I mean, I don’t see why he wouldn’t have, since he was a dead ringer today.

This makes things great for vote and interactive analysis via Marmot and Wilgy interactions.

It’s an exciting time, folks.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:59 pm
by Scotty
if sig is bad, and on strexcorp, then we’re assuming he used his power on Wilgy, his partner. I do not think he would do that, or even pretend to.
A chunk of my suspicion of sig was based on a supposed save on day 5, but I don’t see that as the case.

Now it’s just based on sig’s oddness. Which is a lot harder to sift through, cuz it’s sig

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:04 pm
by Kylemii
Scotty wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:59 pm if sig is bad, and on strexcorp, then we’re assuming he used his power on Wilgy, his partner. I do not think he would do that, or even pretend to.
A chunk of my suspicion of sig was based on a supposed save on day 5, but I don’t see that as the case.

Now it’s just based on sig’s oddness. Which is a lot harder to sift through, cuz it’s sig
sig's power?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 pm
by DharmaHelper
Am I wrong or is only 1 of the permanently dead players a civ at this point?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:09 pm
by Scotty
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:04 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:59 pm if sig is bad, and on strexcorp, then we’re assuming he used his power on Wilgy, his partner. I do not think he would do that, or even pretend to.
A chunk of my suspicion of sig was based on a supposed save on day 5, but I don’t see that as the case.

Now it’s just based on sig’s oddness. Which is a lot harder to sift through, cuz it’s sig
sig's power?
Sig’s first role was such that he targeted a player and they had a 33% chance to either be silenced, blocked or killed.
That would be a shitty role to use on your teammate. And an even shittier role to pretend to use on them
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 pm Am I wrong or is only 1 of the permanently dead players a civ at this point?
Yeppers

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:11 pm
by Kylemii
Scotty wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:04 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:59 pm if sig is bad, and on strexcorp, then we’re assuming he used his power on Wilgy, his partner. I do not think he would do that, or even pretend to.
A chunk of my suspicion of sig was based on a supposed save on day 5, but I don’t see that as the case.

Now it’s just based on sig’s oddness. Which is a lot harder to sift through, cuz it’s sig
sig's power?
Sig’s first role was such that he targeted a player and they had a 33% chance to either be silenced, blocked or killed.
That would be a shitty role to use on your teammate. And an even shittier role to pretend to use on them
right!. thank you.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:11 pm
by Scotty
Now this is assuming there wasn’t a 2nd silencer in the game and that Wilgy wasn’t actually silenced. But a) we never saw any evidence of that after sig died and b) Wilgy insinuated very strongly that he was silenced

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:12 pm
by Scotty
In either case, I think SpaceDaisy is cleared as far as being on strex. It would make no sense for a teammate to hold a teammate down to a table since day 2.
She could still be evens, tho

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:13 pm
by Kylemii
how many members of each mafia team do you think there would be? what's the average in games this size?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:14 pm
by Kylemii
als accounditng for the double life thing i guses

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:22 pm
by sprityo
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 pm Am I wrong or is only 1 of the permanently dead players a civ at this point?
well, civ players we lynched to be perma dead

jack is also dead

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:28 pm
by Kylemii
god dammmn you guys had an exciting first couple days

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:36 pm
by Sloonei
Hm. The "sprityo was killed by the Evil Evens" mystery remains unsolved.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:38 pm
by Sloonei
Beyond having the word "even" in their name, is there any hard evidence that the Evens perform kills on even-numbered nights?

Like, are we certain Marmot ever activated his first role?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:47 pm
by S~V~S
I was the only Pikachu NK, on night six. Nutella was still alive at that time,, but there may have been Strex there too.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:48 pm
by S~V~S
Pikachu 1.0 that is.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:54 pm
by Sloonei
It is interesting that both Strexes have been from Cerberus 1.0 while both Evens have been from Pikachu 1.0. I'm doubting that each team was restricted to one tribe originally, but that does make for some strange dynamics right here and now. I don't know how to pursue interactive reads, for instance, because I don't know what the team distributions per tribe would have looked like.

that and my hands are full and i don't got the time for this nonsense right now.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm
by Kylemii
okay. i'm taking a break. i'm taking this chunk by chunk. i stopped at the beginning of page 17. some thoughts to share, with the stipulation that many are subkect to change as i progress deeper into the heart of pikachu.

ddl calls out both LC and nutella early on when they weren't necessarily being targeted by any significant scrutiny yet. at fist glance i'd say this makes him slightly less likely to be a member of the evil evens, but i would like to update this later on once i've read both of nutella and long con's respective lynches, since distancing is still a thing.

quin was aggro'ed by long con early on, which i think makes him less likely to be an even as well.

sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion

I find myself agreeing a lot with things svs says during the early phases and her changes in position when they happen seem natural,

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:29 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 pm Am I wrong or is only 1 of the permanently dead players a civ at this point?
You are wrong. Jack and Speed.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:41 pm
by DharmaHelper
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:29 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 pm Am I wrong or is only 1 of the permanently dead players a civ at this point?
You are wrong. Jack and Speed.
Good enough

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:48 pm
by sprityo
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion
youre right ive lost some of my bravado and vigor from the early game

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:04 pm
by colonialbob
sprityo wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion
youre right ive lost some of my bravado and vigor from the early game
Losing so many teammates got you down? :slick:

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:17 pm
by sprityo
colonialbob wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:04 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion
youre right ive lost some of my bravado and vigor from the early game
Losing so many teammates got you down? :slick:
Yeah, you nailed it. Right on the head

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:23 pm
by Epignosis
Four dead mafia to two dead civilians (most likely).

It's a beautiful thing.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:24 pm
by Dom
nice. :cool:

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:24 pm
by Dom
how many times did wilgy get lynched or almost lynched?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:26 pm
by Dom
i'm also starting to sour on nju

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:27 pm
by Spacedaisy
S~V~S wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:13 pm It's Day 11. Most Mafia games are winding down or have ended by this point.
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:47 am
No opinion right now on Epi, DDL, Quin & cbob.
I do not understand how one could have no opinion on four people at this stage.
They are all Pikachus, and her rl took off around the time the tribes merged would be my guess.
This, entirely this. I have struggled to understand most pikachu people because I don't have the mental energy to read what happened here while I was over in Cerberus.
Golden wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:38 pm
Day 11 has ended. DrWilgy has been lynched. He was:
66: Dhalsim (Street Fighter II). Once in the game, you may teleport during the night phase, randomising all player targets for that night. You are MAFIA and a member of STREXCORP.
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FUCK YEAH! I KNEW IT BITCHES!

DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:40 pm Fuckin' merked 'em lads


Take that Mr. "I stopped reading at meta"

Same to you INH for calling my case BS and hollow and judgmental.

Let me be perfectly clear here. I have the highest respect for Wilgy as a player both civ and bad. My point was not that he doesn't contribute as a civ. It was that he did it in a lot more jokey, schticky way that people often would just disregard as just crazy Wilgy. Which frankly is unfortunate because a I previously mentioned, civ Wilgy has an eye for finding baddies. But bad Wilgy tries to be understandable at least so that he looks civ I assume. His contributions in both are good. I think Wilgy is the coolest cat and I know he has an incredible win rate. So if you feel like I was saying anything disrespectful about Wilgy, that is not the case. Also, I will never again trust this meta because once it's out there it becomes irrelevant.

Finally, I am super pumped by that result. I was terrified I would be wrong.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:28 pm
by Scotty
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:29 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:05 pm Am I wrong or is only 1 of the permanently dead players a civ at this point?
You are wrong. Jack and Speed.
You are wrong. Jack isn’t confirmed town. Implied, but not confirmed

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:28 pm
by Spacedaisy
Uh I did not mean to make that font giant...