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Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:25 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Can’t believe I subbed in just to be betrayed like this!

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:25 pm
by tutuu
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:23 pm
1612 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:21 pm Could someone catch me up a TL;DR on Ulrist and Alison. I feel that is a more effective way to catch up on the Day. I will surely look at this tomorrow during the 24(?) hour night
I wish I could, but I truly can't lol. I love that for myself. Ask @Tutuu
uh

i was never good with situations like this. like what do u want me to say? everything i have to say is imbued with my own subjective bias and reads. i cant give a list of "objective" stuff that happened

if u wanna know my reads alison is town and idk about ulrist [mention]1612[/mention]

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:26 pm
by Alison
This is kind of a difficult EOD for me. I've liked some of Urist's recent posts and lowkey feel they have slightly lower scum equity than nanook at this point. But switching votes is incorrect based on my understanding of the game, so I have to pick between someone I think is scummier and who I'm supposed to vote. I will probably still support a Urist wagon because I think they still have decent scum equity and I would rather trust my mind than my heart. nanook can always be executed D2. Self-pres considerations come into it as well, since Urist is currently the biggest counterwagon to me.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:26 pm
by Dyslexicon
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:24 pm i am still at work at i probably wont be off until after eod

@Dyslexicon should I vote with you? I don't know what to do
I'm literally the worst player to ask right now. i'm positively combusting. I wanted to sheep Tutu, but then I didn't. Urist or Nanook, I guess. Tutu is insisting Alison is town. I can't really argue cause I don't know. MP is insisting Proto is town, as is Alison. I have no idea how Proto works. Jeraldo exists. 1612 just got here. There are other players in this game. Hello.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:27 pm
by tutuu
lmfao dizzy is funny

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:27 pm
by protocultures
1612 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:20 pm WAIT WTF, I just looked at the votes. My only town read from my very limited reading of D1 is being voted LMAO.
which page you at buddy? Day 1 has been a roller coaster

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:27 pm
by Dyslexicon
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:25 pm Can’t believe I subbed in just to be betrayed like this!
This fucking guy =p

Do you think I should town read you here?

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:28 pm
by Urist
@alison who else do you think is scum

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:28 pm
by Dyslexicon
protocultures wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:27 pm
1612 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:20 pm WAIT WTF, I just looked at the votes. My only town read from my very limited reading of D1 is being voted LMAO.
which page you at buddy? Day 1 has been a roller coaster
THIS I agree with

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:28 pm
by Scirrus
i feel like the i like the people on the urist the wagon the most? but idk

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:29 pm
by Tangrowth
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:24 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:23 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:19 pm [VOTE: Nanook
]
aubergine
Feels pretty meh of a vote tbh
You should probably feel pretty bad tbh
I've felt bad this whole EoD. Thanks.
I'm not feeling super great right now myself, I will feel like such a [insert bad label here] if proto actually is a wolf, but like. I really don't think so?

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:29 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:27 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:25 pm Can’t believe I subbed in just to be betrayed like this!
This fucking guy =p

Do you think I should town read you here?
Idk I did write you a poem

Tbh I was planning to coast today since I subbed in with like 7 hours to EOD and no intention of reading back lol

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:29 pm
by tutuu
does proto death tunnel as town? man ... if proto is scum and alison is town im gonna be kinda mad. whatever. just a game. im still gonna respect her read.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:29 pm
by Tangrowth
Alison wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:26 pm This is kind of a difficult EOD for me. I've liked some of Urist's recent posts and lowkey feel they have slightly lower scum equity than nanook at this point. But switching votes is incorrect based on my understanding of the game, so I have to pick between someone I think is scummier and who I'm supposed to vote. I will probably still support a Urist wagon because I think they still have decent scum equity and I would rather trust my mind than my heart. nanook can always be executed D2. Self-pres considerations come into it as well, since Urist is currently the biggest counterwagon to me.
Which ones, and what did you like about them?

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:30 pm
by Scirrus
kinda wanna vote nanook ngl

#yolo i guess

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:30 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
This would be the first time I’ve been miskilled on D1 in like

Years I think

So that would be fun!

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:30 pm
by Dyslexicon
1612 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:25 pmYeah mostly iso and iso and reading the interactions (if they quote). I really don't know why people's votes are on Urist. Did I miss something in the 400-1000 posts range?
If you ask me if you missed something by not reading most of the game, then the answer is yes. I mean, I'm not about to tell you how to play, and I realize you've been busy today. But I'd strongly suggest actually reading the whole game as much as you can, if you get the time.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:30 pm
by Tangrowth
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:26 pm
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:24 pm i am still at work at i probably wont be off until after eod

@Dyslexicon should I vote with you? I don't know what to do
I'm literally the worst player to ask right now. i'm positively combusting. I wanted to sheep Tutu, but then I didn't. Urist or Nanook, I guess. Tutu is insisting Alison is town. I can't really argue cause I don't know. MP is insisting Proto is town, as is Alison. I have no idea how Proto works. Jeraldo exists. 1612 just got here. There are other players in this game. Hello.
What do you feel most confident in?

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:31 pm
by tutuu
[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:31 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Well ok it’s been fun ig 🤷‍♀️

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:31 pm
by protocultures
1612 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:25 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:23 pm
1612 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:18 pm Oh my lord, guys I don't think I can get a scum read before 7:00 PM. I've been reading logs left and right and there is already 200 more. I will just say that I really like @Urist's quotes as towny. There are a lot of key words that I like such as "this is NAI and a waste of time in the grand scheme of things". I also like the beginning poem and more importantly the reaction that he/she gave to people. But I've also seen him/her write that they are used to 48 hours so they have a lot of range as mafia. But at least from what I am used to seeing, I feel like talking about NAI and pushing people off that conversation who respond in a useless conversation is beneficial for a mafia perspective. I believe that because I am so used to @protocultures tunneling me off that and be relentless and then I turn off my laptop. I also see that he mentioned me and called my hair fabulous. Stop.

@Dyslexicon, yes I am sorry I will vote. I am basically no voting for jailer with this lone vote.
I will vote with Urist here because he/she (could you update your personal pronouns on your profile?) is my only actual read. I haven't even read Alison's logs yet and I apologize
This is a pretty hot take, consider the state of the game right now. But yeah, in my heart I still don't love a Urist lynch. Are you reading the game iso by iso or something?
Yeah mostly iso and iso and reading the interactions (if they quote). I really don't know why people's votes are on Urist. Did I miss something in the 400-1000 posts range?
best way is to read in chronological order, and then iso later as a reminder. iso by iso first time is ... I couldnt imagine doing it.

I also dont strong townread 1612 anymore, more of a null slot now.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:32 pm
by Dyslexicon
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:30 pmWhat do you feel most confident in?
Honestly I want to vote Proto, but I know you don't so. I also feel myself being a huge ball of bias right there.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:33 pm
by Tangrowth
Alison wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:21 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:19 pm
Alison wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:14 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:10 pm With this do you mean you are thinking Urist/Nanook as a possibility then, or is this about Nanook only?
I definitely am thinking about Urist/Nanook. There's some possibility that Nanook is wolf and Urist is villager - it would explain nanook's buddying behavior with Urist, and I think this post would fit for nanook even if Urist is villager (he wants to keep Urist alive if he is wolf and trying to buddy Urist). Urist's "I want to thunderdome Alison because I am on the side of justice" was kind of town as well.

Maybe the exe is actually nanook today; but I don't think I can in good conscience suggest a flash wagon 45 minutes before deadline. It messes up things really bad if I am wrong on nanook. I certainly think nanook should have the spotlight put on him tomorrow.
But wouldn't it be better to try to yeet someone more consensus POE and/or with less posts regardless of the timing?
I am strongly against last minute flash wagons. If they are wrong they mess everything up. Suppose we flash wagon nanook here, and he flips town. We are back at square one, we are totally lost, and everything is difficult. If we execute Urist or even me, we have a lot of content to work from because there's been an entire day of people being forced into making decisions and giving takes about those two wagons.
Here's the thing. I've been thinking about this. I'm not even sure I disagree with you, but... taking a perspective beyond one Day at a time may also be well worth it. Yeeting a slot today means that slot is no longer in the game from a macro perspective; there are more considerations than wagonomics of the Day we are in.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:33 pm
by Alison
I am leaving my vote on Urist. In the event I get executed, the following information is my legacy. You will know, as a stone cold fact, that it comes from town and was given and made in good faith. If you execute me, that is one thing. If you execute me and fail to follow my legacy, I will keelhaul you from the dead chat.

The following people have the highest scum equity: nanook, Urist and Dizzy. Dizzy is the least scummy amongst the three, but still has a chance of flipping scum. I expected town Dizzy to reach out and connect to their townreads more, and they seem more like a lone island at the moment.

The following people are almost certainly town: tutuu, proto, MP7. If you execute any of these people, you will be wrong and I will be disappointed in you.

The following people are probably town: Michelle, cobbler, Lavender, jeraldo. I would think hard before executing them.

I advocate flipping Urist today and then pushing nanook tomorrow. Do not let nanook wriggle his way out of the execute D2 if I die today.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:33 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I can AtE some more if you guys want

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
You think I’m scum and I’m a viable counterwagonwagon but you aren’t voting me

Fuckin wild, man

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm
by Tangrowth
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:32 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:30 pmWhat do you feel most confident in?
Honestly I want to vote Proto, but I know you don't so. I also feel myself being a huge ball of bias right there.
I mean, maybe I'm wrong? But I felt like there were too many posts that displayed a perspective that I thought would be hard to fake. Can you tell me what your strongest point against them is?

Maybe this isn't a conversation we should be having right now though.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm
by protocultures
tutuu wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:29 pm does proto death tunnel as town? man ... if proto is scum and alison is town im gonna be kinda mad. whatever. just a game. im still gonna respect her read.
Ask Epi?

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm
by Dyslexicon
I'm a lone island lol. Too real.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:35 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Calling it now at least two mafia in the votes on me + alison

This is pretty pretty pretty bad

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:35 pm
by tutuu
protocultures wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm
tutuu wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:29 pm does proto death tunnel as town? man ... if proto is scum and alison is town im gonna be kinda mad. whatever. just a game. im still gonna respect her read.
Ask Epi?
alison is town pls learn from ur mistakes dont tunnel alison is town pls learn from ur mistakes dont tunnel alison is town pls learn from ur mistakes dont tunnel alison is town pls learn from ur mistakes dont tunnel alison is town pls learn from ur mistakes dont tunnel alison is town pls learn from ur mistakes dont tunnel alison is town pls learn from ur mistakes dont tunnel alison is town pls learn from ur mistakes dont tunnel

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:35 pm
by Dyslexicon
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pmI mean, maybe I'm wrong? But I felt like there were too many posts that displayed a perspective that I thought would be hard to fake. Can you tell me what your strongest point against them is?

Maybe this isn't a conversation we should be having right now though.
I'd rather think about it later. I get really stressed at EoD if I don't know what to do.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
by Dyslexicon
Maybe it's just Scirrus and I suck

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
by Tangrowth
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm I'm a lone island lol. Too real.
You have me though!

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
by Tangrowth
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:35 pm Calling it now at least two mafia in the votes on me + alison

This is pretty pretty pretty bad
Which names stick out to you?

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
by Alison
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:35 pm Calling it now at least two mafia in the votes on me + alison

This is pretty pretty pretty bad
+ Alison?

What makes you think there are mafia in the votes on me?

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
by Tangrowth
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:35 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pmI mean, maybe I'm wrong? But I felt like there were too many posts that displayed a perspective that I thought would be hard to fake. Can you tell me what your strongest point against them is?

Maybe this isn't a conversation we should be having right now though.
I'd rather think about it later. I get really stressed at EoD if I don't know what to do.
I mean, I'm sweating like crazy right now lmao.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by Tangrowth
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm Maybe it's just Scirrus and I suck
No bad labels!

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by tutuu
alison deadass peaced out and didnt self pres herself against nanook

4 votes alison
4 votes nanook
2 votes urist (1 of them being alison's)

first of all: lol
second of all: no one does this as scum. guys.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by Dyslexicon
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm I'm a lone island lol. Too real.
You have me though!
Hold me. I have you and Tutu.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by Urist
Alright folks here are my balls do with them what you will
[VOTE: protocultures] aubergine

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:35 pm Calling it now at least two mafia in the votes on me + alison

This is pretty pretty pretty bad
Which names stick out to you?
Idk I don’t have real reads

Probably scirrus/jeraldoo/alison if I sheep Urist’s townreads on dizzy and Tutu (plus tutu is explicitly to save alison I believe?)

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
by Alison
tutuu wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm alison deadass peaced out and didnt self pres herself against nanook

4 votes alison
4 votes nanook
2 votes urist (1 of them being alison's)

first of all: lol
second of all: no one does this as scum. guys.
I will self pres if it comes down to the wire and the votes are tied. I won't be happy that I had to break my game theory in order to do so, but I will.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 pm
by Tangrowth
Uhhh my gut still thinks Urist is wolfy even though my brain is like hmmm no. What do.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 pm
by Tangrowth
tutuu wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm alison deadass peaced out and didnt self pres herself against nanook

4 votes alison
4 votes nanook
2 votes urist (1 of them being alison's)

first of all: lol
second of all: no one does this as scum. guys.
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to yeet Alison here.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 pm
by tutuu
Alison wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
tutuu wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm alison deadass peaced out and didnt self pres herself against nanook

4 votes alison
4 votes nanook
2 votes urist (1 of them being alison's)

first of all: lol
second of all: no one does this as scum. guys.
I will self pres if it comes down to the wire and the votes are tied. I won't be happy that I had to break my game theory in order to do so, but I will.
okay sorry. i guess that i thought u said ur leaving and i thought u wouldnt come back. sry

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Alison wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:35 pm Calling it now at least two mafia in the votes on me + alison

This is pretty pretty pretty bad
+ Alison?

What makes you think there are mafia in the votes on me?
No

As in the people voting me and alison herself

Not the people voting for either of us that would be silly

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:39 pm
by Tangrowth
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:37 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:36 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:34 pm I'm a lone island lol. Too real.
You have me though!
Hold me. I have you and Tutu.
You know I will.

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:39 pm
by Dyslexicon
What I don't like about yeeting Nanook is that I think maybe he's readable in future days. And also if he flips town then it's just a wasted yeet pretty much

Re: The Lion King [Day 1]

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:39 pm
by Urist
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 pm Uhhh my gut still thinks Urist is wolfy even though my brain is like hmmm no. What do.
Would you be interested in my opinion