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Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:04 pm**

Or even “nanook cares about my push/read on him”

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:07 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:40 pm

Idk dude, I’m not good at getting widely townread without mechanics, but I’m pretty OK at figuring out who needs to be able to find me and helping them do so.

I’m sure it’s annoying but it’s better than just letting myself die kek

i mean you bothering to write this post to me indicates that you do care on some level

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:11 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:40 pm

Idk dude, I’m not good at getting widely townread without mechanics, but I’m pretty OK at figuring out who needs to be able to find me and helping them do so.

I’m sure it’s annoying but it’s better than just letting myself die kek
i mean you bothering to write this post to me indicates that you do care on some level

I can shift to a “don’t talk to mafia” policy instead if you want ig

I care some amount about explaining where my head is at/my approach to the game, that isn’t the same as caring about your read on me. If you’d rather not talk about it that’s fine too, i was just trying to elaborate a bit so it didn’t come across as “I don’t give a fuck about what you say” cause that’s kinda rude and not how it’s intended

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:13 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:40 pm I’m pretty OK at figuring out who needs to be able to find me and helping them do so.

That's an interesting take on how to play the game, I respect it and I think it's cool. But it might be frustrating for others who are just trying to solve your alignment as well even if it's not relevant to the day vote.
I think this is town on town/difference of opinions on playstyles. Looks like we are seeing that a lot this game. :shrugs: we'll see.

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:13 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:40 pm

Idk dude, I’m not good at getting widely townread without mechanics, but I’m pretty OK at figuring out who needs to be able to find me and helping them do so.

I’m sure it’s annoying but it’s better than just letting myself die kek
i mean you bothering to write this post to me indicates that you do care on some level
I can shift to a “don’t talk to mafia” policy instead if you want ig

I care some amount about explaining where my head is at/my approach to the game, that isn’t the same as caring about your read on me. If you’d rather not talk about it that’s fine too, i was just trying to elaborate a bit so it didn’t come across as “I don’t give a fuck about what you say” cause that’s kinda rude and not how it’s intended

ok

have you given any thought to who my teammate could be?

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:37 pm**

1612 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 1:45 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:30 am What kind of info will my blue flip give, exactly?
What kind of info will tedxtr's blue flip give, exactly? You are red. Easy, I town read ted more than you, let's switch up the order.

At least we have a chop or two left after me.

Hope this works for you.

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:38 pm**

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:40 pm

Idk dude, I’m not good at getting widely townread without mechanics, but I’m pretty OK at figuring out who needs to be able to find me and helping them do so.

I’m sure it’s annoying but it’s better than just letting myself die kek
i mean you bothering to write this post to me indicates that you do care on some level
I can shift to a “don’t talk to mafia” policy instead if you want ig

I care some amount about explaining where my head is at/my approach to the game, that isn’t the same as caring about your read on me. If you’d rather not talk about it that’s fine too, i was just trying to elaborate a bit so it didn’t come across as “I don’t give a fuck about what you say” cause that’s kinda rude and not how it’s intended
ok

have you given any thought to who my teammate could be?

Nope! I’ll think about it if you flip red

Posted: **Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:40 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:38 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:13 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:11 pm
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:40 pm

Idk dude, I’m not good at getting widely townread without mechanics, but I’m pretty OK at figuring out who needs to be able to find me and helping them do so.

I’m sure it’s annoying but it’s better than just letting myself die kek
i mean you bothering to write this post to me indicates that you do care on some level
I can shift to a “don’t talk to mafia” policy instead if you want ig

I care some amount about explaining where my head is at/my approach to the game, that isn’t the same as caring about your read on me. If you’d rather not talk about it that’s fine too, i was just trying to elaborate a bit so it didn’t come across as “I don’t give a fuck about what you say” cause that’s kinda rude and not how it’s intended
ok

have you given any thought to who my teammate could be?
Nope! I’ll think about it if you flip red

ok so never

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:05 am**

[mention]1612[/mention] [mention]Fatmo[/mention] can you vote long con? im pretty sure he’s mafia. still not sure who his teammate is but i think lc is more likely a hit than ted and id like us to vote together here since you two are my strongest tr’s

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] why is ted more likely scum than lc? and can you talk about lc, ted and nook? just like as many words as you can about your reads there

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:17 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:05 am @1612 @Fatmo can you vote long con? im pretty sure he’s mafia. still not sure who his teammate is but i think lc is more likely a hit than ted and id like us to vote together here since you two are my strongest tr’s

@MacDougall why is ted more likely scum than lc? and can you talk about lc, ted and nook? just like as many words as you can about your reads there

Yeah sure, btw the lack of activity in this thread is a bit lame.... where'd our gamers go? or is there not much to discuss? this game is weirdo, i miss tutu, i miss alison.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:18 am**

yea, after looking some things over im pretty sure the the team is lc/nook. neither of them are towny at all or have genuinely tried to solve the game in any way. and once again i don’t care how much they snark me for saying that. they’re mafia. mac/ted/1612/fatmo are the town because they actually care about solving. nook and lc do not

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:18 am**

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Can votes get hammered with majority? I was just afraid of that which is why I didn't vote too early

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:20 am**

1612 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:18 am [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Can votes get hammered with majority? I was just afraid of that which is why I didn't vote too early

no maj

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:20 am**

Don't see fatmo yet as town just for claiming town roleblocker. Also didn't like them throwing shade on Mac. But that's just me. I do like their solviness fwiw

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:21 am**

1612 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:20 am Don't see fatmo yet as town just for claiming town roleblocker. Also didn't like them throwing shade on Mac. But that's just me. I do like their solviness fwiw

fatmo isn’t town for the claim, he’s town because he’s different from his scum game. also his vibe is pure

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:24 am**

Okay I'm kinda surprised there aren't more role claims. For a closed setup with 9 size, there is likely only two town prs so I was expecting some kind of counter claim but maybe Fatmo and Mac are just both town. Wow that would have been REALLY bad for us if we went straight for cass after chard. Holy moly

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:26 am**

If both Mac/Fatmo are town mafia don’t need to CC anything they just NK them in order

It’s actually probably bad for them to CC, trading one for one is not usually gonna be a winning play here

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:28 am**

here’s what we’re gonna do

we’re gonna kill lc. then when lc flips scum fatmo is gonna block nook/ted since they’re next to each other. then we see if theres a kill and go from there

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:28 am**

The only hesitation I have in just locking both and moving on is that 1v1 roleblocker v. doc doesn’t seem all that outlandish for a jay game imo

But town one shot doc vs. mafia double RB probably isn’t what we’re dealing with so it’s probably just that they’re both town

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:32 am**

Ahh dope.... why do I feel like it's not as simple as Nanook and Long Con. I am sensing... I am sensing a final three with me ted and Hally.... oh boy.

I want to say Fatmo is mafia though, tutu had a great accusation referring to a drunk villager with a pitchfork, but Hally suggests otherwise so I don't want to waste my time without full info. Hopefully we just have two town prs here. But what is a mafia pr? I can't see this closed setup having just two basic mafia. Which is why I suspected Strongman on Fatmo.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:35 am**

One shot doc and a town double RB means mafia probably have a RB of their own and/or a two shot strong man or some shit like that

A double RB and a one shot doc make like no sense together tbh

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:35 am**

Also I’m definitely going to all the KILO’s this game lulz

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:36 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:35 am One shot doc and a town double RB means mafia probably have a RB of their own and/or a two shot strong man or some shit like that

A double RB and a one shot doc make like no sense together tbh

Actually it actually might make perfect sense where it's kind of like a town handicap where there is friendly fire of roleblocking doctor. Guahaha that'd be a big brain idea from Jimmy. I could see it.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:37 am**

ill just claim in case this helps in any way at all

twice per game i can target a player at night and they get a half vote added to them the next day. so essentially i would break any tie between the player i target and another player

my role is very weak so i don’t think its impossible it exists alongside a conditional roleblocker and a one-shot doc but it probably means both mafia have some powers too

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:38 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:28 am The only hesitation I have in just locking both and moving on is that 1v1 roleblocker v. doc doesn’t seem all that outlandish for a jay game imo

But town one shot doc vs. mafia double RB probably isn’t what we’re dealing with so it’s probably just that they’re both town

It's definitely not just two PR. My role heavily implies that there are other town PR. My role specifically protects people from ALL night actions. So theoretically I would stop someone being cop checked, watched, etc. etc. It's more than a kill protection.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:39 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:38 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:28 am The only hesitation I have in just locking both and moving on is that 1v1 roleblocker v. doc doesn’t seem all that outlandish for a jay game imo

But town one shot doc vs. mafia double RB probably isn’t what we’re dealing with so it’s probably just that they’re both town
It's definitely not just two PR. My role heavily implies that there are other town PR. My role specifically protects people from ALL night actions. So theoretically I would stop someone being cop checked, watched, etc. etc. It's more than a kill protection.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:37 am ill just claim in case this helps in any way at all

twice per game i can target a player at night and they get a half vote added to them the next day. so essentially i would break any tie between the player i target and another player

my role is very weak so i don’t think its impossible it exists alongside a conditional roleblocker and a one-shot doc but it probably means both mafia have some powers too

woahhh this checks out like crazy but then what the hell is mafia' power role. They must have someething???

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:45 am**

Oh I dunno maybe a roleblocker lol

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:46 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:38 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:28 am The only hesitation I have in just locking both and moving on is that 1v1 roleblocker v. doc doesn’t seem all that outlandish for a jay game imo

But town one shot doc vs. mafia double RB probably isn’t what we’re dealing with so it’s probably just that they’re both town
It's definitely not just two PR. My role heavily implies that there are other town PR. My role specifically protects people from ALL night actions. So theoretically I would stop someone being cop checked, watched, etc. etc. It's more than a kill protection.

So it’s basically a JK without the roleblocking?

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:47 am**

If this were anyone but jay’s game I’d be saying there HAS to be mafia in the three of you

I mean I still think there is but

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:48 am**

[mention]Hally[/mention] does the person you target get notified?

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:49 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:46 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:38 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:28 am The only hesitation I have in just locking both and moving on is that 1v1 roleblocker v. doc doesn’t seem all that outlandish for a jay game imo

But town one shot doc vs. mafia double RB probably isn’t what we’re dealing with so it’s probably just that they’re both town
It's definitely not just two PR. My role heavily implies that there are other town PR. My role specifically protects people from ALL night actions. So theoretically I would stop someone being cop checked, watched, etc. etc. It's more than a kill protection.
So it’s basically a JK without the roleblocking?

Sure

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:51 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:48 am @Hally does the person you target get notified?

no idea. i assume not?

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:55 am**

did you use it yet?

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:59 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:55 am did you use it yet?

nope. didn’t see the point

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:01 am**

Does it work at KILO?

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:07 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:32 am im voting with mac. im confident hes town now

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:34 am its just ted/lc

mac/1612/nook/fatmo is pure town. this is it

How did you get from this.

To this.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:28 pm ok i don’t want ted anymore. back to thinking he’s town. also ted/lc doesn’t make sense to me and if it is that i’d like to flip lc first because ted is townier

[VOTE: lc] aubergine

i also feel like i shouldn’t clear nook for being frustrating and calling me an asshole so im just keeping him in my poe until he does something towny and idc how much he snarks me for it

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:10 am**

I am scared that Hally will belittle me for this but I feel like her reads are coming too easy. She's just shifting around. Whenever someone remotely tries she's just townreading them and then moving to the next easy target. Doesn't feel like there is any depth of analysis.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:10 am**

Does any of her progression on me make sense

Literally the only thing that made even a little sense was when she scumread me while I wasn’t answering her (bad) questions how she wanted me to...and even then her jump off that (then back to it I guess? I’m unclear why she’s back to scumreading me tbh) did not make sense to me

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:11 am**

Anyways I think we might be at the stage where we kill outside the claims today and tomorrow then see who is alive at f3. Doubt 2/3 claims are mafia

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:12 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:01 am Does it work at KILO?

idk

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:07 am
Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:32 am im voting with mac. im confident hes town now

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 12:34 am its just ted/lc

mac/1612/nook/fatmo is pure town. this is it
How did you get from this.

To this.

Hally wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:28 pm ok i don’t want ted anymore. back to thinking he’s town. also ted/lc doesn’t make sense to me and if it is that i’d like to flip lc first because ted is townier

[VOTE: lc] aubergine

i also feel like i shouldn’t clear nook for being frustrating and calling me an asshole so im just keeping him in my poe until he does something towny and idc how much he snarks me for it

i liked teds reply and also no longer think ted/lc makes sense as a team. also i just reread teds iso and i think its very towny. nooks is not

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:12 am**

Fuck I’m gonna lose this game at f3 aren’t I

Halp

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:14 am**

Like it goes;

Mac is town
Oh it must be Mac/LC/Nook
Mac/Nook are pure town it must be Ted/LC
Not Ted said some stuff so it's LC/Nook

I don't understand the progressions, and I usually do.

And the way she has dealt with Fatmo is totally different. Seemingly just lock towning him for reasons that don't vibe for me. She's shielding him and just shifting around on the other four names hoping eventually one of the places she locks onto will just vibe enough with the rest of us.

And the way that she pushed me to just sheep Nanook's townread on Fatmo felt really manipulative too.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:14 am**

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

I'm kinda around for a bit now if anyone wants to talk.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:15 am**

Does Hally/Fatmo make sense as a team?

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:16 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:10 am I am scared that Hally will belittle me for this but I feel like her reads are coming too easy. She's just shifting around. Whenever someone remotely tries she's just townreading them and then moving to the next easy target. Doesn't feel like there is any depth of analysis.

i mean this is true. im just throwing shit out and seeing how it feels and how ppl interact with it. idk what else to do. like im really not having an easy time getting good reads this game

why is this scummy though? like this is not how i play as scum. if anything when im scum i have too stagnant reads. i don’t just change my reads on a whim every five seconds. that kind if turbulence can only come from my town game when im struggling. like iaafr lol

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:19 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:14 am And the way she has dealt with Fatmo is totally different. Seemingly just lock towning him for reasons that don't vibe for me

She apparently read that last racket game I played where I was scum that ended about a week ago. She's mentioned it a few times. That's where she's saying her conviction comes from.

In about one game day here, I've probably posted 2 or 3X as much as I did there in like six game days and apparently she thinks I look different enough that she says she's confident I'm not scum like I was there.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:20 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:14 am Like it goes;

Mac is town
Oh it must be Mac/LC/Nook
Mac/Nook are pure town it must be Ted/LC
Not Ted said some stuff so it's LC/Nook

I don't understand the progressions, and I usually do.

And the way she has dealt with Fatmo is totally different. Seemingly just lock towning him for reasons that don't vibe for me. She's shielding him and just shifting around on the other four names hoping eventually one of the places she locks onto will just vibe enough with the rest of us.

And the way that she pushed me to just sheep Nanook's townread on Fatmo felt really manipulative too.

i also lock towned 1612

like mac. read how fatmo was in avatar. he’s not scum. and it makes sense to sheep nook because hes either tmi-ing fatmo to pocket him because they know each other or he’s correctly tr’ing fatmo because they know each other. but like regardless of how you read nook his tr on fatmo is safe to sponge and fatmo independently reads very pure to me

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:22 am**

Oh also for the record, the more time goes by, the more I'm feeling like I lean town on Mac and we got started off on the wrong foot. He says I was dumb. I say he was waaaaayyyyy too heavy handed with me the minute I jumped into the game and elicited more pings from interactions than I had from anyone else. I feel like his start to D2 when he reacted about his doc stuff seemed more likely to be pure than not.

So I'd not vote there today or anything like that. He's not clear but I feel better about him.

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:22 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:15 am Does Hally/Fatmo make sense as a team?

2/3 claims being mafia would be a huge lol

Not impossible but like

I’d have to see more hard claims to believe it tbh

Posted: **Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:23 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:22 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:15 am Does Hally/Fatmo make sense as a team?
2/3 claims being mafia would be a huge lol

Not impossible but like

I’d have to see more hard claims to believe it tbh

i thought you were 90% sure fatmo is town. what happened to that?

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