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Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:42 pm
by tutuu
@Trustworthy Liberal need ur vote before eod

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:44 pm
by DrWilgy
Don't we have like 27 hours until EoD?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:45 pm
by tutuu
chardonnay wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:58 pm Day 3 will end 11/19/20 9:45pm EST time.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:46 pm
by DrWilgy
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:45 pm
chardonnay wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:58 pm Day 3 will end 11/19/20 9:45pm EST time.
Good [VOTE: TS] aubergine

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:47 pm
by tutuu
Falcon will self pres onto FG and marmot will find a bullshit excuse to vote her

Please vote Falcon

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:47 pm
by tutuu
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:46 pm
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:45 pm
chardonnay wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:58 pm Day 3 will end 11/19/20 9:45pm EST time.
Good [VOTE: TS] aubergine
Thats alright just dont vote FG

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:48 pm
by tutuu
Nobody else vote TS, please

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 pm
by ts account
I wish mac had actually explained why they thought long con, wilgy, and fg were town

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:52 pm
by DrWilgy
Someone may be able to clear up my confusion at Tutuu's concern.

Is there a hammer?

I feel like there was mention of a hammer previously but I can't find any mention of it near the start of the thread.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:56 pm
by tutuu
My concern is that town might get yeeted instead of mafia and there are 4 hours or so left im the day

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:58 pm
by falcon45ca
ts account wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 pm I wish mac had actually explained why they thought long con, wilgy, and fg were town
Then you shouldn't have MKd him.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:58 pm
by tutuu
Wait i cant do math i apologize

Far far away time zone

27 hours

Okay cool

We have time to mess around then (but preferrably we all mindmeld)

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:59 pm
by ts account
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:56 pm My concern is that town might get yeeted instead of mafia and there are 4 hours or so left im the day
my main concern is that falcon didn't seem inclined to follow along with lynching marmot even if it meant self pres

reflects kind of towny unless they're partners but that's still kind of odd in that case

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:59 pm
by falcon45ca
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:56 pm My concern is that town might get yeeted instead of mafia and there are 4 hours or so left im the day
Untrue, since I'm town & you don't seem to care. More like you're concerned actual Maf will get lynched cuz' they're your teammates.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:59 pm
by tutuu
chardonnay wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:24 pm Having reached a majority Ill be posting a flip shortly
Well there is hammer too

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:01 pm
by tutuu
:llama:
ts account wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:50 pm I wish mac had actually explained why they thought long con, wilgy, and fg were town
I trust their read on wilgy

FG i think is towny by myself. U dont agree? Dont u know her good?

Long con i also think is kinda towny and early on ppl agreed so w/e

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:01 pm
by tutuu
Unintentional emoji

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:03 pm
by tutuu
If u guys want to kill marmot first im okay with that

Im locked on falcon and marmot and never reevaluating no matter what

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:18 pm
by Funnygurl555
yeah mikey why don't you think i'm town >:(

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:19 pm
by Funnygurl555
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:01 pm Unintentional emoji
:llama:

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:25 pm
by DrWilgy
Hammer test

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

@chardonnay does anything neat happen?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:28 pm
by tutuu
yea u just killed him

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 pm
by DrWilgy
Excellent.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 pm
by tutuu
marmot tomorrow and sorry if i was wrong

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:33 pm
by Long Con
"Wow," exclaimed Long Con flatly. "Hammer test, eh? I hope you guys are right about him."

He then turned away, trying to hide the tears forming in his eyes. funnygurl's words had wounded him deeply, and he knew that his vote was petulant and reactive, but what did it matter now?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:33 pm
by DrWilgy
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 pm marmot tomorrow and sorry if i was wrong
:noble:

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:36 pm
by falcon45ca
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 pm marmot tomorrow and sorry if i was wrong
FFS, she's already apologizing for my green flip.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:20 pm
by tutuu
yes im sorry if i was wrong i just did what i thought was best

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:23 pm
by MartinGG99
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 pm marmot tomorrow and sorry if i was wrong
I'm leaning towards *not* marmot if you're wrong about falcon

because aside from some posts from Falcon (or inconsistencies imo) the only case against him is "he had bad interactions with Nutella"

And with Marmot that's essentially the same thing but I don't think there's anything that sticks out to me

so fmpov the marmot case is too weak if Falcon flips town

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:24 pm
by ts account
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:23 pm
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 pm marmot tomorrow and sorry if i was wrong
I'm leaning towards *not* marmot if you're wrong about falcon

because aside from some posts from Falcon (or inconsistencies imo) the only case against him is "he had bad interactions with Nutella"

And with Marmot that's essentially the same thing but I don't think there's anything that sticks out to me

so fmpov the marmot case is too weak if Falcon flips town
I think the case on marmot individually is stronger than the case on falcon?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:27 pm
by MartinGG99
ts account wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:24 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:23 pm
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 pm marmot tomorrow and sorry if i was wrong
I'm leaning towards *not* marmot if you're wrong about falcon

because aside from some posts from Falcon (or inconsistencies imo) the only case against him is "he had bad interactions with Nutella"

And with Marmot that's essentially the same thing but I don't think there's anything that sticks out to me

so fmpov the marmot case is too weak if Falcon flips town
I think the case on marmot individually is stronger than the case on falcon?
How so?

I don't recall (or at least of what I've read) any big arguments against him other than ones that were based on interaction by Tutuu.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:41 pm
by ts account
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:27 pm
How so?

I don't recall (or at least of what I've read) any big arguments against him other than ones that were based on interaction by Tutuu.
They were mason hunting, their initial callout of my vote on FG was scummy, and they were inconsistent/behaving oddly when I asked them about their vote on me/their entrance to the night phase

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:58 pm
by MartinGG99
ts account wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:41 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:27 pm
How so?

I don't recall (or at least of what I've read) any big arguments against him other than ones that were based on interaction by Tutuu.
They were mason hunting, their initial callout of my vote on FG was scummy, and they were inconsistent/behaving oddly when I asked them about their vote on me/their entrance to the night phase
I think quite a few people were mason hunting; after all the town has to figure out at some point which group of masons to trust and not only that, but also to figure out if a group of mason claims were mafia or not (since mafia have BTSC like masons)

Marmot has said he didn't like voting masons on d1; I presume the reasoning as to why that wasn't optimal is because if we actually eliminated a mason on day 1, it was possible that the mafia would night-kill the other mason

I think their behavior has been a bit odd, but I don't think any of their odd behaviors were scum-indicative

This was their first post on N1, and I found no problems with it tbh:
Marmot wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:43 pm So I've noticed that we ts is still alive and we have one fewer townie.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:59 pm
by ts account
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:58 pm This was their first post on N1, and I found no problems with it tbh:
it's inconsistent with their suggestion that killing inside the mason claims should be avoided

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:01 pm
by ts account
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:47 pm
ts account wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:43 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:41 pm
ts account wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:34 pm that doesn't explain the shade
Why is it shade?
it implies my flip is preferable to vanilla town
Well yes, I had no read on nanook but I had a scumread on you, so I do prefer that.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:18 pm
by MartinGG99
ts account wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:59 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:58 pm This was their first post on N1, and I found no problems with it tbh:
it's inconsistent with their suggestion that killing inside the mason claims should be avoided
ts account wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:01 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:47 pm
ts account wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:43 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:41 pm
ts account wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:34 pm that doesn't explain the shade
Why is it shade?
it implies my flip is preferable to vanilla town
Well yes, I had no read on nanook but I had a scumread on you, so I do prefer that.
They also said this in the past:
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:20 pm
ts account wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:01 am marmot's basically like "we shouldn't kill ts, it's not optimal"
*votes ts*

Nobody listened to me.

I'd rather make a meaningful vote, and the other option at the time was TL, and I explained why I didn't like lynching them.
Not to mention the many mason-claims on that day 1 (though only a few were seemingly not superficial imo) that would imply a possibility of mafia-aligned liars within those claims.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:21 pm
by ts account
I don't have a problem with them voting me
you're missing the point

when they say "we shouldn't do this" then do it anyway because they don't think there are other options, their immediate response shouldn't be to shade someone that they didn't want to kill

their attempt to explain their reasoning why is blatantly contradictory

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:36 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:45 pm
chardonnay wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:58 pm Day 3 will end 11/19/20 9:45pm EST time.
Math seems off is my vote actaully needed right here for a tien wagons doesn't look like above and i don't wanna accidently have a hammer happen.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:37 pm
by ts account
there should be 9 alive, 5 to hammer so ye hammer happened

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:38 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
Oh i ment to also quote the post i was pinged in

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:42 pm
by MartinGG99
ts account wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:21 pm when they say "we shouldn't do this" then do it anyway because they don't think there are other options, their immediate response shouldn't be to shade someone that they didn't want to kill

their attempt to explain their reasoning why is blatantly contradictory
Yeah well considering you had up to 6 votes (probably 5 without Marmot) do you really think Marmot had a choice in that for the time he was present?

All they can do is look at the options available and pick. The only two options at that time were TL and you, and he said these things as well:
Marmot wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:58 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:52 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:09 pm [VOTE: ts account] aubergine
Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?
you're still a good vote imo, ts just feels worse atm


when did nanook and marmot defend ts
Why is TL a good vote?
Marmot wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:33 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:25 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:14 pm I'm still curious... To anyone who wants to answer. What's the case on TL again?
I'm not aware of what exactly was the issue, but iirc someone or some people had an issue with this post:
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:52 pm Werid for me to be near on the first page lets go i think this will be a good game hope i can get my reads on point lets go.
Spoiler: show
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For me personally, at the time I was suspicious of TL, it was because they hadn't developed much, and this was their last 2 posts of the time (#88 and #99), in particular #88.

It just felt like they were getting intimidated, possibly to due to wolf self-awareness or TMI.

However when they returned I saw nervousness from them, and in the context of the reads they gave and more, I felt it came from a towny perspective or mindset.
I've only really been present in the thread for the more recent posts from them, and I agree with you on that content. The opening post is weird sure, but we've had plenty of content since then.

I'm leaning back to a ts vote, despite my previous reservation.



As for the ? avatar, I think they're also confused, hence the ? :confused:

If he voted TL he could be attacked for saying "why is TL a good vote"

And if he voted you (he did) then he gets attacked by you for what you're attack him now for anyways

Marmot didn't like D1 at all, and he has never expressed a liking for it.

But since he wanted a sense of meaningfulness, he believed that you were scummier or more vote-worthy than TL.

Even though he didn't believe either you or TL were good targets to vote for on D1 out of everyone else.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:44 pm
by MartinGG99
There's also the option of just not voting

but some people find that scummy af as well

the way I see it, no matter what Marmot could do on EoD1 he was gonna be vulnerable to being scum-read for it even if he maintained towny (imo) beliefs

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:51 pm
by ts account
you're still missing the point lol

"I notice ts is still alive and we're down a townie" isn't what you say when you have reservations about your vote

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:06 pm
by falcon45ca
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:36 pm
tutuu wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:45 pm
chardonnay wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:58 pm Day 3 will end 11/19/20 9:45pm EST time.
Math seems off is my vote actaully needed right here for a tien wagons doesn't look like above and i don't wanna accidently have a hammer happen.
Why do you care about a hammer happening on me? I've been one of your top scum reads since you OMGUSed D1

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:07 pm
by MartinGG99
ts account wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:51 pm you're still missing the point lol

"I notice ts is still alive and we're down a townie" isn't what you say when you have reservations about your vote
He has already explained it tbh

idk how else you're supposed to express shock and/or surprise when you're Marmot in this situation; if he went all-caps utter shock that the expected elimination didn't happen then honestly that would stick out like a sore thumb compared to the usual level of energy I get from his other posts (Which seem generally calm)
ts account wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:23 pm
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:20 pm
ts account wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:01 am marmot's basically like "we shouldn't kill ts, it's not optimal"
*votes ts*

Nobody listened to me.

I'd rather make a meaningful vote, and the other option at the time was TL, and I explained why I didn't like lynching them.
what was the meaning of your first post coming in to the day? The one implying I should have been lynched?
ts account wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:24 pm
Marmot wrote: Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:43 pm So I've noticed that we ts is still alive and we have one fewer townie.
here
Marmot wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:33 pm You mean coming out of Day 1 into Night 1?

When I left Day 1, I think the vote tally was something like [ts: 5], [tl: 2], [Marmot: 1], so I was surprised to come back and find nanook dead, especially when he (or at least I think he) had no votes when I left,
(last quote here is snipped a bit for clarity)

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:38 pm
by Funnygurl555
Long Con wrote: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:33 pm "Wow," exclaimed Long Con flatly. "Hammer test, eh? I hope you guys are right about him."

He then turned away, trying to hide the tears forming in his eyes. funnygurl's words had wounded him deeply, and he knew that his vote was petulant and reactive, but what did it matter now?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:32 am
by chardonnay
Wow! That was fast Haha

Day 3 Flip result:

Spoiler: show
Falcon was a Vanilla townie
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Falcon gave me the broad concept of "something obscure." I asked "How about an obscure cryptid/monster/etc?" He was down for that.

However what i came up with looks much more... Lovecraftian in nature lol. I dont even sure what it is? I may have been drinking too much wine while painting.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:33 am
by chardonnay
Night 3 Post cap, please don't let your "posts in thread" exceed the number next to your name this Day phase:

Tutuu- 187
ts account- 265
Funnygurl555- 123
Marmot- 128
MartinGG99- 128
DrWilgy- 97
Long Con- 73
Trustworthy Liberal- 118


-/-/-/-

Night 3 will end 11/19/20 at 11:30pm Est time.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:38 am
by tutuu
[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 3

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:42 am
by tutuu
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