The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:37 am**

or no, that’s wrong- not that you couldn’t. Just that you were aware that you had absolutely no reason behind your confidence but were too lazy to make up any sort of explanation or reevaluate

aka: pretending to have reads while not actually solving

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:43 am**

can we just preflip obvscum creature and call me town for now I don't want to make towny posts

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:44 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:18 am orange my read on you is actually so incredible it works revolutionize the game and it would be unfair to everyone it is applied to because it's too good so I choose not to out it

real shit

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:49 am**

I really don't see a third that isn't Syn

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:50 am**

ejjinami wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:34 am
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:54 am
ejjinami wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:49 am
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:44 am
ejjinami wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:20 am
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:05 am
ejjinami wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:53 am

what do you think about syn?

and esooa actually :P
I believe they're both town
you didn’t even think about the answer before posting, did you? :/

Do you even have any scum-reads atm?
If you consider yourself town and town-read both esooa and son, I’m pretty sure you will either have to end up scum-reading people who are obviously town, or no one lol
So you believe Syn and Esooa are wolves?
don’t change the subject lol
If I’m telling you that your reads don’t make sense, either change them or prove me wrong
If you actually have them, that is
But you're saying that if I townread Syn and Esooa then I will end up scumreading obvtown. That suggests you think everybody else is obvtown while Syn and Esooa are wolves.
Syn is in my PoE. Up to reevaluation but I haven’t gotten there yet
Esooa has good interactions. Not clearing enough to be in the town-core but more than good enough for now imo

don’t act stupid, please. You do understand what I asked about
Avoiding to elaborate on your reads and trying to change the subject to myself makes me think that they are fake and you just couldn’t elaborate on them in the first place

But then what did you mean when you said I'll end up scumreading obviously town or no one?

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:57 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:55 am it's entirely possible Falcon was killed because he didn't leave a check and could have been the cop so killing him doesn't leave a SHC if it misses. I'm not sure if I want to clear hyena just off that kill has his posts didn't seem like a check to me really

doesn’t matter
hyena is obvious town because of meta anyway

I’ve played with him multiple times. I cannot say with 100% confidence that I’m always able to catch him but at least in his 2 last wolf games, I really struggled with getting a read on him. Had him in the PoE nearly the entire time
it’s kinda hard to explain cuz I’m not really sure what I’m reading him for either but nearly immediately after he started writing here I was like: “holy fuck, he is town”…
this only intensified since

If I were to try, I’d say that the most obvious thing here would be that he doesn’t seem to give a crap about what people think of him or his reads? The fact that he’s interacting with everyone, asking about every single thing, being playful despite some pressure on him is town-indicative imo

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:14 pm This is going to sound crazy, but I think I genuinely want to go for either Esooa or Alison.

Suggesting a crazy CFD while completely ignoring the existing wagons is sth I think he would only do as town as well. Even if there’s scum among [syn, creature], scum!hyena doesn’t just ignore all of that and push his own lynches

scum!hyena DOES care about doing the “objectively townie” stuff. From what I’ve seen, he tends to comment on all wagons, try to get people to argue (actively participate in the discussion of mis-eliminations so that people focus on them more)
and he’s just not doing that here… his reads seemed totally disconnected from the general consensus D1, pushing only what HE wanted to push and ignoring everything else

idk if that makes sense but I really feel like he should just be town here

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:57 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:49 am I really don't see a third that isn't Syn

Deli can definitely be a wolf and Syn seems villagery

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:58 am**

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:46 am The cop game has a cop. The implications are obvious and I've explained them. Waste your time on me if you wish though

I don’t consider attempting to solve someone a waste of time in a mafia game. I mean I guess unless you look at the bigger picture of “is mafia a waste of time?” But let’s not go down that path right now haha

Can you please reiterate the case on creature? I mean I think we should follow nanook’s lead first but that can be a contender for next day

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:59 am**

Good to know that creature is still playing dumb.

This feels like a waste of time

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:02 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:58 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:46 am The cop game has a cop. The implications are obvious and I've explained them. Waste your time on me if you wish though
I don’t consider attempting to solve someone a waste of time in a mafia game. I mean I guess unless you look at the bigger picture of “is mafia a waste of time?” But let’s not go down that path right now haha

Can you please reiterate the case on creature? I mean I think we should follow nanook’s lead first but that can be a contender for next day

I mean, I'm definitely not the most important person to be considering for you imo

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:02 pm**

ejjinami wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:57 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:55 am it's entirely possible Falcon was killed because he didn't leave a check and could have been the cop so killing him doesn't leave a SHC if it misses. I'm not sure if I want to clear hyena just off that kill has his posts didn't seem like a check to me really
doesn’t matter
hyena is obvious town because of meta anyway

I’ve played with him multiple times. I cannot say with 100% confidence that I’m always able to catch him but at least in his 2 last wolf games, I really struggled with getting a read on him. Had him in the PoE nearly the entire time
it’s kinda hard to explain cuz I’m not really sure what I’m reading him for either but nearly immediately after he started writing here I was like: “holy fuck, he is town”…
this only intensified since

If I were to try, I’d say that the most obvious thing here would be that he doesn’t seem to give a crap about what people think of him or his reads? The fact that he’s interacting with everyone, asking about every single thing, being playful despite some pressure on him is town-indicative imo
Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:14 pm This is going to sound crazy, but I think I genuinely want to go for either Esooa or Alison.
Suggesting a crazy CFD while completely ignoring the existing wagons is sth I think he would only do as town as well. Even if there’s scum among [syn, creature], scum!hyena doesn’t just ignore all of that and push his own lynches

scum!hyena DOES care about doing the “objectively townie” stuff. From what I’ve seen, he tends to comment on all wagons, try to get people to argue (actively participate in the discussion of mis-eliminations so that people focus on them more)
and he’s just not doing that here… his reads seemed totally disconnected from the general consensus D1, pushing only what HE wanted to push and ignoring everything else

idk if that makes sense but I really feel like he should just be town here

I'm fine with considering Hyena as town atm

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:03 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:44 pm Ok sorry I didn't end up catching up last night

I just ISOd creature and yeah that's not great

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:25 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:38 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine
What changed about your previous townread on Creature?

You're still scumreading Kami, right?

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:26 pm Creature feels more rand than overtly wolf ughhh I need more time

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:47 pm Just kill Nanook since I'm apparently mafia to him but also worth voting with

KZA wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:49 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

these quotes should tell you all you need to know about Creature

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:07 pm**

Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:18 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:17 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:15 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:13 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:00 pm I give up trying to catch up

I’m on mobile and running errands for the next few hours

Someone explain to me why Esooa is being emo and saying she doesn’t want to play

And FYI that is wolfy for her ime
As in like in Shakespeare?
Yes and weren’t you two wolves together there?
Yes. I remember Esooa being quite obvious but AtEing her way out for almost two days.
Tbh you both seem similar here and can die if I’m wrong I’ll apologize

This is pretty direct when compared to Deli's typical scum posts, also directed at Creature which is a good look for them imo

Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:39 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:38 pm [VOTE: syn ] aubergine
I have a secret reason for liking this but what is your reason?

Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:56 pm LB being wishy-washy is noted

Stuff like this imo is pretty obviously like, considering stuff in thread and actively solving

Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:57 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:56 pm Should be alarming Deli voted me for weird to no reasons and every once in a while says shit "I still think you should die" whenever I question why she is wolfreading me. She might be one of the wolves afraid the wagon movements might move to a buddy (probably Alison).
Lmao ok

Creature spewing Deli is useful (also in other posts)

Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:59 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:58 pm
Deli wrote: ↑Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:56 pm LB being wishy-washy is noted
Agree
Creature being pocket-y is noted

Again I think Deli's posts are just, idk how to describe, but way more smooth, less self conscious, make more sense, etc etc etc, than when I saw them as scum

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:08 pm**

oh, the secret reason thing is pretty towny too

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:33 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:07 pm Again I think Deli's posts are just, idk how to describe, but way more smooth, less self conscious, make more sense, etc etc etc, than when I saw them as scum

There's a confidence about their posting that's bothersome. But it's also been a minute since I've played with Deli as they've been modding more than playing on 2p2 lately. But Deli is also very good at tone and always has been. But I'll reread pretty soon.

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:42 pm**

[VOTE: Kami] aubergine

I'm just gonna sheep Alison and remind everyone her ISO exists and that her reads should be considered

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:42 pm**

I'm enjoying watching people waste time solving for a world that doesn't exist

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:43 pm**

I'm also not at all convinced Creature is actually a wolf too so Deli pushing Creature doesn't mean too much

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:44 pm**

Esooa really thinks the solve is

KZA
Creature
Syn

How LHF can you be

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:46 pm**

KZA wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:44 pm Esooa really thinks the solve is

KZA
Creature
Syn

How LHF can you be

ask the rand

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:47 pm**

Can we hammer so I never have to play mafia again

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:51 pm**

Given up on me rescinding?

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:53 pm**

This is sort of lol but this is probably around the spot in the day where I say that I'm actually seer and not Nanook, and that I peeked Nanook v last night-- which I get is lol.
Also lol is that my n0 is Orange/KZA
So......we can't kill KZA today and Nanook is just a villager faking-- which is fine-- and KZA handling it fine too.

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:57 pm**

…..oof

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:58 pm**

Thats an interesting play but its also wrong

Your mistake is claiming kza green--if you're trying to provide cop cover/look like the real cop, saying I'm green checked is fine but you can't say kza is green cause then mafia know you're faking

Saying I'm green is meh but works fine enough if you're concerned people would push back on me if they believe you, so that part is fine. You didn't quite stick the landing tho

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:00 pm**

I guess this could make you mafia but I don't see the ev in it

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:02 pm**

luckbox already claimed a n0 on KZA day 1 is why

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:03 pm**

@MissSparkles is replacing @Syn. Please do not discuss replacements.

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:03 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:02 pm luckbox already claimed a n0 on KZA day 1 is why

Oh yeah I guess that does handicap them a bit

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:05 pm**

this is what I’d consider gamethrowing

I don’t know how stuff like this is handled on this forum but considering that this situation took place, I’m assuming it’s not seen as such.
I just want to say that if there wasn’t a green check on nanook, I would likely have been dead set on killing them.

That’s all I’m gonna say.

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:05 pm**

[VOTE: creature] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:05 pm**

What’s up?

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:58 pm Thats an interesting play but its also wrong

Your mistake is claiming kza green--if you're trying to provide cop cover/look like the real cop, saying I'm green checked is fine but you can't say kza is green cause then mafia know you're faking

Saying I'm green is meh but works fine enough if you're concerned people would push back on me if they believe you, so that part is fine. You didn't quite stick the landing tho

wait, wtf

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm**

Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm**

Oh I see the ev actually

Luckbox probably is mafia kek

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm**

ejjinami wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:58 pm Thats an interesting play but its also wrong

Your mistake is claiming kza green--if you're trying to provide cop cover/look like the real cop, saying I'm green checked is fine but you can't say kza is green cause then mafia know you're faking

Saying I'm green is meh but works fine enough if you're concerned people would push back on me if they believe you, so that part is fine. You didn't quite stick the landing tho
wait, wtf

I'm not rescinding my claim lol

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm**

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo

I'm the cop i claimed red on kza

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm**

I’m town so let’s hide those tinfoil hats

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo
I'm the cop i claimed red on kza

Theres a hammer so hold off on voting

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo
I'm the cop i claimed red on kza

Did u just claim right away? If so why?

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:08 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:03 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:02 pm luckbox already claimed a n0 on KZA day 1 is why
Oh yeah I guess that does handicap them a bit

Yeah I give up there. Sigh..

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:09 pm**

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo
I'm the cop i claimed red on kza
Did u just claim right away? If so why?

Claimed in my first post d2 yeah

Cause I have a red lol

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:09 pm**

So I rep in too two outed mafia, wish i was the hero mafia teal needed but i’m not so woooo

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:10 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:09 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo
I'm the cop i claimed red on kza
Did u just claim right away? If so why?
Claimed in my first post d2 yeah

Cause I have a red lol

Y not wait until they post snd then get reads from them to gelp deduce who their teammates are, feels like mishandling a red.

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:10 pm**

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:09 pm So I rep in too two outed mafia, wish i was the hero mafia teal needed but i’m not so woooo

Luckbox might not be outed lets see where they go from here

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:10 pm**

Or just outright mafia faking a red ngl

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:11 pm**

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:10 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:09 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:06 pm Someone should give me a recap thx xoxo
I'm the cop i claimed red on kza
Did u just claim right away? If so why?
Claimed in my first post d2 yeah

Cause I have a red lol
Y not wait until they post snd then get reads from them to gelp deduce who their teammates are, feels like mishandling a red.

No I played this correctly

This is d2 not d1

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:11 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:10 pm
MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:09 pm So I rep in too two outed mafia, wish i was the hero mafia teal needed but i’m not so woooo
Luckbox might not be outed lets see where they go from here

I was wondering if this was about me. Yeah I'm definitely not a wolf. I think Orange as my n0 was fine it just hasn't worked out well.

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:11 pm**

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:10 pm Or just outright mafia faking a red ngl

Thats a d3 play

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:11 pm**

handle this among yourselves, I’m going offline
luck is likely town even if he’s lying. There is absolutely no merit for mafia to do so
He was in a good position, sitting in everyone’s town cores. Giving up on that in order to protect red-checked scum would be just as gamethrowy as faking a red check and aiming for a lynch

his green claim on claimed scum would be stupid beyond reason then but honestly, w/e
this doesn’t make sense either way

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