Re: AMERICAN GODS~Day 6
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:07 pm
I should add that I do look forward to hearing your vote analysis.
It wasn't a criticism. It was an observation followed by a question.Vesta wrote:You may have tiny eyes along with the rest of your tiny features, but if you look at the poll, Pandora wasn't listed, so she got skipped when I counted the players who hadn't voted. Add her to the list fly-boy.Eros wrote:It would seem you left out Pandora. Any reason why?Vesta wrote:For possible last new gods I can't decide if a Herc teammate would vote to save or throw him to the wolves. If they had already lost a teammate than it might be worth it to try and save him, which makes me look at Phoenix's vote particularly because he tied in with Zeus. However if they gave up on him then Ceres or Zeus as the last Herc voters might be possible. Chronos and Mars are other options if they wanted to stop the tide against Herc, but I think that is less likely. Since Zeus was an early suspecter of Herc, it's more likely that Phoenix is the possible candidate for the last new god.
At quick count looks like Electra, Helios, and Poseidon missed the last vote.
(Herc too, but we know who he turned out to be)
Haven't heard anything from Electra really, have we? She was also a Wisconsin voter if I remember, but that option may have not done anything for Hinzie if WJ is right. If not, then highly possible as an inactive spook too. As of right now I am voting Electra as place holder since we can change votes.
I want to look at low posters next as well.
Votes Electra
Any other criticisms you'd like to make or do you have something constructive to add yourself?
Μιλώντας σαν τι;Electra wrote:Does anyone know this stuff???Chronos wrote:Τι είναι αυτά που λες; Αυτή είναι η αγγλική!Electra wrote:Yikes, Greek!Chronos wrote:Υπήρξαν πολλές μετενσαρκώσεις αυτό το παιχνίδι, σε γενικές γραμμές
How long has this guy been talking like this?
Τι σε κάνει να το λες αυτό;Aphrodite wrote:first off there is no way all of WZ`s statements are true. Impossible and eyes on those claiming such.
Τι νομίζετε ότι σημαίνει αυτό για την Apollo; Ότι είναι κακό; Ότι ψάχνει για ευκαιρίες για εύκολη lynches;Aphrodite wrote:Apollo You voted Hermes d1 lynched a civ.
You voted Prometheus d2 lynched a civ.
You vote Fortuna d3 not lynched.
You vote Ares d4 not lynched.
You vote Athena d5 not lynched.
Each day you talk about Hinzelman and low posters/non voters. But yet find a variety of reasons not to vote Phoenix your
number 1 suspect for Hinzelman.
Day 3 you vote for Fortuna day 4 you don`t but switch to Ares for Hinzelman though you have said clearly the best case for Hinzelman is Phoenix. Then again yesterday you ignore all talk on Hercules which I had started Day 4 about along with Zeus and talk again of Hinzelman but then go and vote Athena essentially throwing away your vote for the second time in a row.
Why so all over the map?
Why are you so focused on Hinzelman but yet 80% of the time you follow a crowd?
Are you bringing up Hinzelman so much in hopes that no one will think you are Hinzelman?
btw your vote analysis left all the details out I have just posted
Next up Mars
I have never disputed that my vote record is terrible. At the risk of being accused of WIFOM, I would argue that this is evidence that I am feeling my way in the dark (Sun god! Irony!) If I had info, I would certainly be more careful with how my record appears.Aphrodite wrote:Apollo You voted Hermes d1 lynched a civ.
You voted Prometheus d2 lynched a civ.
You vote Fortuna d3 not lynched.
You vote Ares d4 not lynched.
You vote Athena d5 not lynched.
Each day you talk about Hinzelman and low posters/non voters. But yet find a variety of reasons not to vote Phoenix your
number 1 suspect for Hinzelman.
Day 3 you vote for Fortuna day 4 you don`t but switch to Ares for Hinzelman though you have said clearly the best case for Hinzelman is Phoenix. Then again yesterday you ignore all talk on Hercules which I had started Day 4 about along with Zeus and talk again of Hinzelman but then go and vote Athena essentially throwing away your vote for the second time in a row.
Why so all over the map?
If I were Hinzelmann, I would be killing like crazy. The reason I brought up Hinzelmann a lot is that I thought I had the most empirical evidence on him, as I mentioned before.Aphrodite wrote: Why are you so focused on Hinzelman but yet 80% of the time you follow a crowd?
Are you bringing up Hinzelman so much in hopes that no one will think you are Hinzelman?
Because I didn't do a vote analysis. I gave a quick recap of what had happened, as Electra asked for.Aphrodite wrote: btw your vote analysis left all the details out I have just posted![]()
So while I mentioned Phoenix as a candidate, I still thought Fortuna was more likely at that time, which is why I voted for her.Apollo wrote: There are three people who voted on Day 1 but didn't vote on Day 2: Fortuna, Phoenix and Poseidon. Fortuna voted for Atlas, and Atlas was the one who was killed. Too obvious, or just poor playing? I feel like a Fortuna vote from me is becoming more likely.
Is this meant to be as obscure a reference as wikipedia tells me? If so, da-yum, nobody be gettin' your jokes yo'.Eros wrote:It wasn't a criticism. It was an observation followed by a question.Vesta wrote:You may have tiny eyes along with the rest of your tiny features, but if you look at the poll, Pandora wasn't listed, so she got skipped when I counted the players who hadn't voted. Add her to the list fly-boy.Eros wrote:It would seem you left out Pandora. Any reason why?Vesta wrote:For possible last new gods I can't decide if a Herc teammate would vote to save or throw him to the wolves. If they had already lost a teammate than it might be worth it to try and save him, which makes me look at Phoenix's vote particularly because he tied in with Zeus. However if they gave up on him then Ceres or Zeus as the last Herc voters might be possible. Chronos and Mars are other options if they wanted to stop the tide against Herc, but I think that is less likely. Since Zeus was an early suspecter of Herc, it's more likely that Phoenix is the possible candidate for the last new god.
At quick count looks like Electra, Helios, and Poseidon missed the last vote.
(Herc too, but we know who he turned out to be)
Haven't heard anything from Electra really, have we? She was also a Wisconsin voter if I remember, but that option may have not done anything for Hinzie if WJ is right. If not, then highly possible as an inactive spook too. As of right now I am voting Electra as place holder since we can change votes.
I want to look at low posters next as well.
Votes Electra
Any other criticisms you'd like to make or do you have something constructive to add yourself?
Where's your sister, Cummerbunda?
Observation-Criticism, Tomayto-Tomahto. Don't want to grow up to become these guys'The Cummerbund' is also a nonsense poem by Edward Lear, fully titled 'The Cummerbund, a poem from India', where it refers to the cummerbund as a ferocious woman-eating beast.
Yeah, really.Aphrodite wrote:first off there is no way all of WZ`s statements are true. Impossible and eyes on those claiming such.
I have done some vote analyzing as well the difference between mine and others is that mine are right and I name names not just say so and so was lynched what can you learn from that.
I will be doing one at a time while can I am at work
first up Apollo
Linky Vesta orly?
That's where I'm voting. Her or Mars.Apollo wrote:I'm getting a really bad vibe from Pandora, but she hasn't been around much today, so let's see if we can't coax her out with a vote. After all, I was cheated out of voting for her yesterday when I wanted to.
Votes Pandora
Yeah, I have been getting a baddie vibe from Mars as well. Either one is a good choice.Eros wrote:That's where I'm voting. Her or Mars.Apollo wrote:I'm getting a really bad vibe from Pandora, but she hasn't been around much today, so let's see if we can't coax her out with a vote. After all, I was cheated out of voting for her yesterday when I wanted to.
Votes Pandora
In fact, let me join you right now.Apollo wrote:Yeah, I have been getting a baddie vibe from Mars as well. Either one is a good choice.Eros wrote:That's where I'm voting. Her or Mars.Apollo wrote:I'm getting a really bad vibe from Pandora, but she hasn't been around much today, so let's see if we can't coax her out with a vote. After all, I was cheated out of voting for her yesterday when I wanted to.
Votes Pandora
Thank you, Sunface!!Apollo wrote:This is from memory, so I may miss a few things.Electra wrote: So Mr. Sunface, what's been going on in this game?
*deep breath*
We've been traveling around the country, killing each other.
Day 1: We lynched Hermes, he was civ. Boo! Eros insists that Poseidon is good.
Night 1: Atlas was NKed, apparently double targeted by the Spookshow and Hinzelmann. This is the last time we saw Hinzelmann.
Day 2: Artemis got the most votes, but Prometheus was lynched. He was civ. Boo!
Night 2: The New Gods tried to kill Athena, but failed.
Day 3: We lynched Artemis, she was civ. Boo! Eros insists that Fortuna is good.
Night 3: The Spookshow killed Persephone
Day 4: We lynched Fortuna. She is civ. Boo! At some point around this time Whiskey Jack tells us that at least one baddie is dead, so we start to question whether all the revealed roles are accurate.
Night 4: The New Gods tried to kill Poseidon but failed.
Day 5: Zeus and Athena start vouching for each other. We lynch Hercules. He was a baddie! Finally!
Night 5: Czernobog kills Poseidon. Eyebrows are raised.
Phoenix has attracted some attention as a possible Hinzelmann candidate. Pandora has recently caught my eye, as well as Eros, as being suspicious. A lot of people have been absentee and reborn. Nobody is really sure of anything. There has been a lot of insanifying/cursing. The hostesses have been doing a great job running a really fun game.
The end.
We can change votes?Eros wrote:That's not to say my vote will stay there.
I'm sorry I haven't been around much today. I have been gone all day, but I am here now. I have a question for Apollo, Eros, Electra, and Chronos. What is it about me exactly that made you want to vote for me. I know some of you talk about a bad vibe. Do you have and suspicions with a real explanation?Apollo wrote:I'm getting a really bad vibe from Pandora, but she hasn't been around much today, so let's see if we can't coax her out with a vote. After all, I was cheated out of voting for her yesterday when I wanted to.
Votes Pandora
Όσο για σήμερα, δεν είναι εκεί που πλήρως την πρόθεση ψήφου, αλλά σας "ακόμα" σχόλιο μου έχει ενοχλήσει.Pandora wrote:I'm sorry I haven't been around much today. I have been gone all day, but I am here now. I have a question for Apollo, Eros, Electra, and Chronos. What is it about me exactly that made you want to vote for me. I know some of you talk about a bad vibe. Do you have and suspicions with a real explanation?Apollo wrote:I'm getting a really bad vibe from Pandora, but she hasn't been around much today, so let's see if we can't coax her out with a vote. After all, I was cheated out of voting for her yesterday when I wanted to.
Votes Pandora
Κακή μετάφραση. Όμως. Όχι ακόμα.Aphrodite wrote:Whoa whats up with all the early votes?
Chronos what still comment?
What do you make of Electra? I realize she cant be voted for but wow no effort on her part at all this lynch just following along blindly.
Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
I am sorry. I was at work I thought he was doing a vote analysis not a summary. I never said anything regarding a summary.Eros wrote:I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
The context was clear that he was not providing an analysis, and what's more, he said as much.Aphrodite wrote:I am sorry. I was at work I thought he was doing a vote analysis not a summary. I never said anything regarding a summary.Eros wrote:I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
But again I will ask what is the case on Pandora?
I never said I didn`t need anyone and thats mean to imply. We all need to work together with everyone giving opinions whether we agree with them or not that is the best way I know how to find baddies.
Eros wrote:I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
Cases are fallible, and doubly so, because the enemy may mislead. I tear open the language, which very few are able to make their bitch.Pandora wrote:Eros wrote:I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
You don't have a case, do you?
Maybe the context was clear to you but not to me during my skim before I made my posts. I am suspicious of Apollo (I thought you were as well because of your vote for him last lynch) so pardon me if I do not trust his motives and thought he was not telling all he should about the votes.Eros wrote:The context was clear that he was not providing an analysis, and what's more, he said as much.Aphrodite wrote:I am sorry. I was at work I thought he was doing a vote analysis not a summary. I never said anything regarding a summary.Eros wrote:I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
But again I will ask what is the case on Pandora?
I never said I didn`t need anyone and thats mean to imply. We all need to work together with everyone giving opinions whether we agree with them or not that is the best way I know how to find baddies.
But I'll leave it.
Here's the Pandora thing:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 679#p39679
And Mars is no good, if you ask me:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 700#p39700
My vote for Apollo was in jest given the Host challenge. I had hoped that would have been understood and chuckled at, but it (apparently) wasn't.Aphrodite wrote:Maybe the context was clear to you but not to me during my skim before I made my posts. I am suspicious of Apollo (I thought you were as well because of your vote for him last lynch) so pardon me if I do not trust his motives and thought he was not telling all he should about the votes.Eros wrote:The context was clear that he was not providing an analysis, and what's more, he said as much.Aphrodite wrote:I am sorry. I was at work I thought he was doing a vote analysis not a summary. I never said anything regarding a summary.Eros wrote:I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
But again I will ask what is the case on Pandora?
I never said I didn`t need anyone and thats mean to imply. We all need to work together with everyone giving opinions whether we agree with them or not that is the best way I know how to find baddies.
But I'll leave it.
Here's the Pandora thing:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 679#p39679
And Mars is no good, if you ask me:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 700#p39700
Now I know it was a summary but I still do not trust him.
So for Pandora it was the word yet questioned by Apollo and quickly jumped on by Phoenix. Apollo didn't even vote for her instead threw his vote away. Maybe it was a slip idk though because the people questioning it I do not trust. If it was a slip worth voting for why didn`t Apollo vote for him yesterday?
Glad to know you hold suspicion of Mars as well.
Ίσως θα πρέπει να διαβάσετε όλα τα μηνύματα πριν πω κάτι.Pandora wrote:Eros wrote:I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
You don't have a case, do you?
Νομίζω ότι κάποιος είναι πάρα πολύ άνετα πίσω από μεταμφίεση τους.Eros wrote:Cases are fallible, and doubly so, because the enemy may mislead. I tear open the language, which very few are able to make their bitch.Pandora wrote:Eros wrote:I don't think you need us. After all, you're the one criticizing people's ability to summarize information.Aphrodite wrote: Apollo and Eros please remind me of the case against Pandora?
You don't have a case, do you?
Επίσης, μόλις είδα αυτή τη θέση. Μπορείτε να επεκταθείτε σε αυτό, παρακαλώ; Είμαι λίγο μπερδεμένη. Λέτε ότι ο Άρης ήταν να είναι ευκαιριακές;Eros wrote:Woah, soldier.Mars wrote:I don't see that there's anything damning about Athena, and actually I thought her defence sounded fairly genuine. But I'm geting progressively more leery of Zeus. His defence of Athena could be genuine, because they're teammates, or because he's trying to establish civvie cred if she gets lynched. I think if Athena is bad, it's as part of a team with Zeus anyway, so I'd rather go for the one who strikes me as more baddie to begin with. *votes Zeus*
P.S. I don't see Herc's behavior as terribly suspicious, and I actually think it's a bit odd that people keep bringing him up each day.
"He has good reason to defend me."Athena wrote:He is not lying. He has good reason to defend me.Apollo wrote:Right, so Zeus has given us nothing but his word to go on. My instinct is that he is a liar, one who saw the attention Eros was getting and wanted a piece of the action. Combined with my earlier suspicions, I think I will cast my vote for Athena today. I call your bluff, Zeus!
I have answered anything brought up about me. And I'll say again, there really isn't a case against me as far as I've seen in the thread. There is evidence I'm not Hinzelman. That is true--I'm also not any other baddie. I survived a night kill--yes I did and yes I know how, and no I won't tell you. I've suspected and voted for other civvies--that is true. I was wrong about people (assuming their roles as revealed are accurate). I'm loud and stubborn about my suspicions--yes, yes I am.
Am I missing anything? Because all of that just describes the way I play the game.
That means both parties believe each other good, and understand why.
So Zeus (as evil) trying to gain credibility by defending Athena (as good) isn't what is happening here. Their lot is one.
Συμφωνώ μαζί σας, τότε. Καταλαβαίνω πολύ καλύτερα. Ωστόσο, ποιες είναι οι σκέψεις σας για το Δία σε ένα σύνολο;Eros wrote:In a nutshell, Mars has few reasons for voting anyone, and when he does, they're poor. His vote for Zeus, which at the time could have saved Hercules, had specious reasoning behind it.
I'm holding off on him. I suspected him, but that suspicion has dwindled.Chronos wrote:Συμφωνώ μαζί σας, τότε. Καταλαβαίνω πολύ καλύτερα. Ωστόσο, ποιες είναι οι σκέψεις σας για το Δία σε ένα σύνολο;Eros wrote:In a nutshell, Mars has few reasons for voting anyone, and when he does, they're poor. His vote for Zeus, which at the time could have saved Hercules, had specious reasoning behind it.
Dionysus was not an issue. I got ya, love.Medusa wrote:Elektra is a mystery to me. She is someone I think I need to keep an eye on, because theres not much to see really. Maybe time and a lot of posts will give me a better idea of what she's all about.
Eros, the spreader of love. Y'all feel the love? I think Apollo does
ε;Medusa wrote:Ceres and Chronos are two people I've thought a lot about. It's hard not to, amirite? They are both so obvious. I don't know what either of them is up to though, that part is not obvious. What you see is what you get, I guess.
I do actually find this interesting in hindsight. Not for the same reasons however. Phoenix jumps on Apollo's yet theory pretty quick there. Especially after Apollo made that Hinzie case on him. This does not take away my concerns on Phoenix. My vote on Helios has not had the magical effect on his appearance that I had hoped, but I'll give him some more time.Pandora wrote:The "yet" was intentional but I did not mean it how you interpreted it. I meant...Phoenix wrote:That sentence is pretty suspect tbh. That seems like more of a slip than anything else I've seen in this game. It sounds like you threw that "yet" in there by accident. It could be seen as you saying, "I am bad, but I haven't done anything shady for you to call me out on as of yet."Pandora wrote:Apollo wrote:Actually, I find that sentence itself pretty suspicious.Pandora wrote: I am not sure how you can have any suspicions of me yet.Everyone just wants someone to point a finger at.
The old Pandora said basically nothing. I am the new Pandora and haven't even been here a full day. Day one lynch, many people talk about how there is not much to go on yet and some people end up randomizing their vote because of it. Well, this is my Day 1. When looking at Pandora, no one should have anything to go on yet. Again, yet, b/c this is like my Day 1. I'm sure that is why I am not even allowed to be voted for.
This right here. Where u at Heel? Didn't Apollo say Heli-pad voted in the night poll?Medusa wrote:The whole Helios thing is kind of up in the air. Is he here or not? If he's here, then he's probably vote worthy. But if he's not here, well, then a vote is a terrible thing to waste. Can anyone find him please, so I can make up my mind?
Mars is pretty well covered. Everyone has an opinion there, so moving on.
Είμαι απολαμβάνοντας τον εαυτό μου αρκετά.Vesta wrote:This right here. Where u at Heel? Didn't Apollo say Heli-pad voted in the night poll?Medusa wrote:The whole Helios thing is kind of up in the air. Is he here or not? If he's here, then he's probably vote worthy. But if he's not here, well, then a vote is a terrible thing to waste. Can anyone find him please, so I can make up my mind?
Mars is pretty well covered. Everyone has an opinion there, so moving on.
I am not understanding all of your comments on people Meds. Translating Chronos' "huh?" was a fun one! Yay Greek!
Τι σκέφτεσαι νεο-Αφροδίτη;Pluto wrote:Aphrodite seems awfully quick to jump at Apollo for discussing the 'yet' thing from Pandora and then not voting that way. I can understand why Apollo didn't vote for Pandora in that situation though.
I think right now, I'm leaning toward either Aphrodite, Phoenix, or Mars for today's vote. Phoenix because of him jumping on Apollo's theory/case and I've had bad vibes from him most of the game. Mars because he seems to have very shoddy reasons for any of his votes.
I still think he might be Hinzelmann, but as the days go by with still no kills from him, I'm starting to wonder if he is dead after all.Medusa wrote: Where's Phoenix? What do we know about Phoenix?