The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:20 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:54 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:53 pm Can someone quote the vote count end of day im having trouble getting it from my phone

I thought lilypetal's vote on cape was super scummy.
I agree that lily is wolfy

Tell me why Lily is Wolfy. I'm finding that there is no tell for me to latch onto with them. Even them playing anti town I've seen to be Town.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:25 pm**

ask obscurity I'm busy

sabi if you weren't a tracker why did you outright claim tracker twice?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:26 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:25 pm ask obscurity I'm busy

sabi if you weren't a tracker why did you outright claim tracker twice?

Because it part of my role? Tracker and watcher. Aka motion detector in fol terms.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:26 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:25 pm ask obscurity I'm busy

sabi if you weren't a tracker why did you outright claim tracker twice?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:30 pm**

wouldnt sloonei have just called it "motion detector" instead of "night watcher"?

and im confused what you mean by "it's part of your role" that you are tracker and watcher, idk how that would even be phrased in a role card

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:32 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:30 pm wouldnt sloonei have just called it "motion detector" instead of "night watcher"?

and im confused what you mean by "it's part of your role" that you are tracker and watcher, idk how that would even be phrased in a role card

Night watch is. Part of the hot fuzz flavor..

You get a report if someone did a night action or if they were visited by someone. That's how. It was phased.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:33 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:32 pm
anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:30 pm wouldnt sloonei have just called it "motion detector" instead of "night watcher"?

and im confused what you mean by "it's part of your role" that you are tracker and watcher, idk how that would even be phrased in a role card
Night watch is. Part of the hot fuzz flavor..

You get a report if someone did a night action or if they were visited by someone. That's how. It was phased.

but there is no hot fuzz flavor for role names because cape flipped commuter, the only flavor part was his character

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:34 pm**

anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:33 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:32 pm
anne wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:30 pm wouldnt sloonei have just called it "motion detector" instead of "night watcher"?

and im confused what you mean by "it's part of your role" that you are tracker and watcher, idk how that would even be phrased in a role card
Night watch is. Part of the hot fuzz flavor..

You get a report if someone did a night action or if they were visited by someone. That's how. It was phased.
but there is no hot fuzz flavor for role names because cape flipped commuter, the only flavor part was his character

Commuter isn't a flavor equivalent in hot fuzz.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:39 pm**

Have we found wolves?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:43 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:39 pm Have we found wolves?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:46 pm**

I'm too unhappy to care about this game rn

[VOTE: Sabiplz] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:57 pm**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:23 pm i think lucy is safely town for now

if eod wagons were cape and lucy im just gonna assume it's v/v because this game has been slow and easy for wolves to take advantage of

Who's taking advantage of the thread to force that EoD?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:57 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:39 pm Have we found wolves?

Yes vote Sabi

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:58 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:46 pm I'm too unhappy to care about this game rn

[VOTE: Sabiplz] aubergine

Hope things get better

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:59 pm**

160 baby. See you all next phase, please kill the obvious woof.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:01 pm**

Alright let's go through each name again

I think anne is a wolf because I still sense her play here seems more oriented towards looking good than actual solving

DrWilgy is prob towny from yesterday but I confess I'm a bit disappointed about him today

falcon45ca tends to be mislynched a lot and idk if I can read him rn

Jackofhearts2005 is meh because I feel like he should be able to find town and wolves but I don't remember much from him this game other than gifposting

Lilypetal I'm now worried about her "creature always tunnels me therefore town"

lucy I kinda think is town but won't oppose her lynch much anymore

MacDougall I think is fine solvingwise but I'm still paranoid about Mac after that Cape90 fiasco

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I think is fine and prob not my worry today

Neon I believe is town mostly because Mac says so and Neon is often tunneled

obscurity is prob my hardest townread aorn

Porscha I'm leaving alone because she should be pretty readable and I believe someone should've prob figured her out if she was wolf

pyxxy is pretty low hanging but he's pretty much a coinflip tbh

RondoDimBuckle I'm tempted to call town here but I'm still a bit skeptical

Ruri is also a low hanging coinflip

Sabiplz I guess I'm mostly sheeping where you all are at

Schiavetto I have no idea tbh

Seanzie is somewhat meh but I guess I should be able to find him later

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:05 pm**

Alright just noticed Mac exceeded his post limit by a lot and I guess that's prob town

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:26 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:05 pm Alright just noticed Mac exceeded his post limit by a lot and I guess that's prob town

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:26 pm**

Dw im town

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:27 pm**

You would know this if you watched rocket power

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:29 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:26 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:05 pm Alright just noticed Mac exceeded his post limit by a lot and I guess that's prob town

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:34 pm**

obscurity wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:05 pm NOOK I felt kind of town vibes from EOD.

Explain these. I only recall a shit post.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:39 pm**

Alright here's where I believe all wolves are:

anne
falcon45ca
Jackofhearts2005
Lilypetal
pyxxy
Ruri
Sabiplz

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:45 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:39 pm Alright here's where I believe all wolves are:

anne
falcon45ca
Jackofhearts2005
Lilypetal
pyxxy
Ruri
Sabiplz

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:51 pm**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:43 am but its okay because u can judge me going forward!

why is sabi scum? i dont think anne is scum

Sabi looks Wolfy re the interactions with Mac earlier in the phase. Also I don't think that Lucy is just mindlessly sheeping Mac at this point. There is at least a dif check between Sabi/Lucy.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:57 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:30 am I think if they are both town the team is exactly lucy, seanzie, Jack +1. I think Those 3 contain 2 wolves anyway.

My POE is

Jack
Seanzie
Lucy
Sabi
Anne

And I think it's 3 wolves most likely.

Does this PoE apply if Sabi flips W?

I don't see how Lucy/Sabi are on the same team.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:04 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:18 am ood evening, wrote this up during night, posting this without catching up but seeing that I didn't die, will have time to read tomorrow

sabi
viewtopic.php?p=960129#p960129
- the need for Sabi to keep proactively pushing that they're being scumread for prior wolf success is reasonable
- but at what point does it just turn into legitimizing pushing back any scumread of themself? which would be a smart strategy/pattern to establish as normal on D1
- nothing personal, kid

creature
viewtopic.php?p=960123#p960123
- yes you literally did (viewtopic.php?p=959437#p959437)
- this is quite the progression on Cape (viewtopic.php?p=959596#p959596)
- if I knew how to do VCA on this site then I could figure out when you made this shift and if it helped cover lucy

nanook
- this post confuses me (viewtopic.php?p=960275#p960275)
- you seem very concerned about trying to townclear yourself when there's no pressure on you and you've posted all of 9 times before this, and trying to solve is an actualy way to get towncleared, not hocus pocus preemptive VCA before we even get a flip
- press x to doubt (viewtopic.php?p=960193#p960193)
- maybe you just really love VCA and had somehow already thought about all the possibilities here, but like, idk, if that's the case would you mind sharing more with the class?

- Question for the rest of the game: Is this normal Nanook behavior?

also have my eye on mac falcon lucy

perhaps my porscha feelings were just rubbing off from her interaction with lucy but I'm late slow and inoriginal with this opinion h/t I think to DrWigly on this one

scotty respond to anne she's asked repeatedly and nicely and I think you two have great teamwork potential in this game

[ed note: rip scotty]

Re: Nook, this is completely and painfully normal. Nook is a good player though and I think will show town if it's there. I've begun to notice a trend of me finding him given enough time.

Not sure your takeaways re Sabi and Creature. What are you saying regarding these slots?

You think to me on this one? I don't understand the statement.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:07 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:50 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:47 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:46 am I don't townread gimmicks because even though I basically only gimmick post as town because t's super easy to do gimmicks as a wolf, it obscures wolfy behavior and I always get undeserved townpoints when I drop my gimmick. Like I think it's a thing townies tend to do but there's so much wolf motivation to do it so I just ignore it wrt actually reading other players.

That said, I really like what Rondo is doing on a personal level.

Absolutely disgusting.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:10 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:05 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:10 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:36 am I spectated King of the Hill mafia Mac, and to me you were very obviously town there.

Difference I see immediately is I don't get town leader energy. Just throwing stuff at the wall from you
This is what I've been feeling about D1 Mac (particularly about some of the posts right before this one from Cape). Idk what to fucking do with that because it's both "not townie looking" and also "not like the recent Mac wolf performance."
I think it should be entirely chalked up to that mac is tryna play more low key and less serious and less town leader but alison forced his serious face in king of hill

no serious face on mac this game

I don't think it is AI

You don't think there was an air of srs Mac re the interactions between him Anne and Sabi?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:10 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:07 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:50 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:47 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:46 am I don't townread gimmicks because even though I basically only gimmick post as town because t's super easy to do gimmicks as a wolf, it obscures wolfy behavior and I always get undeserved townpoints when I drop my gimmick. Like I think it's a thing townies tend to do but there's so much wolf motivation to do it so I just ignore it wrt actually reading other players.

That said, I really like what Rondo is doing on a personal level.

Absolutely disgusting.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:20 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:13 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:09 pm Further thoughts: Schiavetto is probably just town.

I had a TR on Anne, but that does feel like it's Sabi dependent.

Neon is town.

Rondo gif posting is anti town and I'd be willing to yeet for that along with the Cape vote.

I need you to stop shit posting.

Are you claiming you didn't drop a quiet vote on Cape?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:22 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:20 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:13 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:09 pm Further thoughts: Schiavetto is probably just town.

I had a TR on Anne, but that does feel like it's Sabi dependent.

Neon is town.

Rondo gif posting is anti town and I'd be willing to yeet for that along with the Cape vote.

I need you to stop shit posting.

Are you claiming you didn't drop a quiet vote on Cape?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:33 pm**

Alright, caught up. Thoughts:

Rondo is just going to be unsolvable unless we pr clear him. Meh.

Still a dif check between Lucy/Sabi, whoever thinks those two are aligned are delusional. Mac's take on Sabi self resolving is meh.

Ruri is in this game. I guess.

Schiavetto's entry felt towny, but I'd like to see more.

Jack is town.

Creature still feels off. His take on Anne I think is bad, idk what he means by me disappointing him, Falcon take is bad, Jack take is bad, Lily take is very noncommittal, and I can go on. It just feels like Creature is constantly in a position where they are ok with yeeting anyone.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:41 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:39 pm Alright here's where I believe all wolves are:

anne
falcon45ca
Jackofhearts2005
Lilypetal
pyxxy
Ruri
Sabiplz

I am not ok with lynching everyone. I just expressed where I think wolves are. I don't think I can narrow it further. Also I'm still willing to listen incase I am wrong on someone just like I listened on Sabiplz.

I guess falcon45ca, pyxxy and Ruri are pretty much coinflips so I wouldn't lynch them today over the others. My favorite lynches are something like Sabiplz > anne > Jackofhearts2005 > Lilypetal.

I confess that I tend to tunnel Lilypetal a lot so she's pretty close to a coinflip too. I'm mostly concerned about her townread on me for tunneling her.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:50 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:41 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:39 pm Alright here's where I believe all wolves are:

anne
falcon45ca
Jackofhearts2005
Lilypetal
pyxxy
Ruri
Sabiplz
I am not ok with lynching everyone. I just expressed where I think wolves are. I don't think I can narrow it further. Also I'm still willing to listen incase I am wrong on someone just like I listened on Sabiplz.

I guess falcon45ca, pyxxy and Ruri are pretty much coinflips so I wouldn't lynch them today over the others. My favorite lynches are something like Sabiplz > anne > Jackofhearts2005 > Lilypetal.

I confess that I tend to tunnel Lilypetal a lot so she's pretty close to a coinflip too. I'm mostly concerned about her townread on me for tunneling her.

I don't think you'd like literally say "I'm good with whatever" but you do still feel more amorphous than what I'd think a town to play to.

I appreciate the PoE, but even with PoE several players were listed in your takes above where they could be shifted in and out of your PoE without a reason. That's why it feels you are good with anyone, your reasons and method of voting is very squishy.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:53 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:38 pm Players Mac has locked town:
Neon

Players Mac has locked wolf:
Sabi
anne

Players Mac has labeled as obviously town:
obscurity

Players Mac has labeled as obvious wolf:
Sabi
Cape90 (also stated that cape90 is the ONLY obv mafia in this game)

He has also never switched his vote off of Alison.

This ain’t the town mac that I know and love

Scotty seemed to have shaded Mac, Lucy and Anne.

I think resolving the Sabi/Lucy dif is still correct and going from there. Weird world where it's just Mac but maybe?

Like I think d2 Mac was town Mac.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:54 pm**

i like ur posts a lot wilgz.

gonna [VOTE: lucy] aubergine cuz sabi PR claimed.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:55 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:41 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:39 pm Alright here's where I believe all wolves are:

anne
falcon45ca
Jackofhearts2005
Lilypetal
pyxxy
Ruri
Sabiplz
I am not ok with lynching everyone. I just expressed where I think wolves are. I don't think I can narrow it further. Also I'm still willing to listen incase I am wrong on someone just like I listened on Sabiplz.

I guess falcon45ca, pyxxy and Ruri are pretty much coinflips so I wouldn't lynch them today over the others. My favorite lynches are something like Sabiplz > anne > Jackofhearts2005 > Lilypetal.

I confess that I tend to tunnel Lilypetal a lot so she's pretty close to a coinflip too. I'm mostly concerned about her townread on me for tunneling her.

dw my tr on you was half joking. You just tend to do that a lot as town lol

like i think every single game you've said I'm a wolf for nebulous reasons day 1 and in my brain im like wow creature is a wolf looking for an easy yeet and then every time u flip town

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:59 pm**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:55 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:41 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 8:39 pm Alright here's where I believe all wolves are:

anne
falcon45ca
Jackofhearts2005
Lilypetal
pyxxy
Ruri
Sabiplz
I am not ok with lynching everyone. I just expressed where I think wolves are. I don't think I can narrow it further. Also I'm still willing to listen incase I am wrong on someone just like I listened on Sabiplz.

I guess falcon45ca, pyxxy and Ruri are pretty much coinflips so I wouldn't lynch them today over the others. My favorite lynches are something like Sabiplz > anne > Jackofhearts2005 > Lilypetal.

I confess that I tend to tunnel Lilypetal a lot so she's pretty close to a coinflip too. I'm mostly concerned about her townread on me for tunneling her.
dw my tr on you was half joking. You just tend to do that a lot as town lol

like i think every single game you've said I'm a wolf for nebulous reasons day 1 and in my brain im like wow creature is a wolf looking for an easy yeet and then every time u flip town

I'm gonna be honest that between Sabi/anne/Jack/you I am more likely to be wrong on you.

idk if Sabi + anne + Jack are all wolves. I suppose DrWilgy might be seeing town!Jack when I am not seeing it, but rn I don't feel satisfied about Jack.

There might have a wolf within the slankers (pyxxy/Ruri) or maybe within the players I tend to struggle to get a firm read on.

Also I might need to revisit both lucy and Mac if Sabi and anne are town.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:23 pm**

[VOTE: sabi] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:24 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:23 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine

do you have a reason not to believe the pr claim?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:25 pm**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:23 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine
do you have a reason not to believe the pr claim?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:26 pm**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:23 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine
do you have a reason not to believe the pr claim?

She walked it back 3 times, made no sense for her to claim, being weird around their claim. Take your pick.

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:27 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:26 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:23 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine
do you have a reason not to believe the pr claim?
She walked it back 3 times, made no sense for her to claim, being weird around their claim. Take your pick.

i suppose it was a bit weird but if no one CCs shouldn't we just assume it's true?

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:31 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:31 pm Even from a t!Lucy's perspective, how does being super willing to move from one townie to a different townie indicative of wolfiness? It's like a neutral play from a wolf.

I think you and I both know the caveat is TMI in this scenario

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:34 pm**

I'm VT
I should probably die as the d1 cw today
it is correct play

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:35 pm**

my top SR is wigly

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:45 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:35 pm my top SR is wigly

but why

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:45 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:35 pm my top SR is wigly

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:34 pm I'm VT
I should probably die as the d1 cw today
it is correct play

Posted: **Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:52 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:35 pm my top SR is wigly

Oh do tell

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