Nat'l Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - Game End

[MacDougall]

Can you answer my question straight?

Nah I am too into this back and forth with DM to be cooperative atm

yet you want me to use my clout to run shit?

helpful.

fuck it.

[VOTE: rondo] aubergine

[RondoDimBuckle]

additionally, it isnt destructive to town. You're just too blind to see it. In the event that longcon is town he at least is the only one in this lobby with a brain so far

its destructive and the worst part not even fun or entertaining; just a bit desperate and mean

Negative, I was having fun with it, pyxxy was vibing with it. If you dont like it vote me out, I dont care. I will play the game I want when ever I want how I want within the rules set by the mods and game host. Come at me. You better think real quick of what you're gonna say when I flip because just like people have been saying to leetic. I dont have to play the GAME how you want me to.

okay, cool story

i still have the right to form my opinion and state what I feel

my favourite thing about this back and forth with DM is the fact that people who have seen me wolf know its not even clearing

ive played once with you as town in ted lasso and you might as well been a wolf.

reading this thread made me feel miserable. id rather not play at all. sorry i know that im not helping the situation but i figured i'd be transparent. even though i'm not getting yelled at i feel like i'm getting yelled at and i'm taking the aggression that's being thrown around everywhere as if it was directed at me personally. not fun. i'll swing by at eod to move my vote if needed

I understand. It's a strangely terse game.

Nah DM just doesnt like me throwing back in their direction what they want to throw at me.

actually i dont mind, its dark but just a game

they issue here seems that you cant accept someone not be in love with your way of playing, town or wolf

it is what it is

sure tell me when you feel like actually playing the game

lol I had a unique ability that had to survive and I correctly solved the person I needed to isolate and then town proceeded to ignore me and chop the very person I said wolves wanted to chop when I could have locked the game up cold and we could have slept to victory but sure. go off about how I am bad at the game when you clearly failed to persuade anyone to any reasonable level of confidence that you were town by your inactivity and lack of solving. Hey, look. I can say mean things about your play too <3

Nah I dont care if people love me or hate me. What I wont take is you coming in here throwing shit my way without throwing any back. So you can keep quoting me and Ill keep quoting you back. Or you could. I dunno, try to solve?

i am trying to solve and just find it that youre the wolfiest of them all, I mean you have said it this game yourself so why do you get mad and defensive about this? and if my solving is not fulfilling enough you, thats on you xoxo

i dont buy the arguments you make for other players, they seem weak and superficial

Well duh, I spent a full day phase literally being the wolfiest, big risky move there. At least Mac has had a nuanced take on it. Dont make me roll my eyes. Defensive? HA at no point am I saying dont vote me, do it. Vote me out. If you cant find the actual wolves and want to give up and pick the easy win thats on you xoxox

what arguments? What players? what about them is weak? what about them is superficial?

I dont like your ducks and staplers. The clown honks you make with them seem gronk and shleem

[RondoDimBuckle]

Can you answer my question straight?

Nah I am too into this back and forth with DM to be cooperative atm

yet you want me to use my clout to run shit?

helpful.

fuck it.

[VOTE: rondo] aubergine

literally the one thing I am not feeling right now

[MacDougall]

A simple yes/no question while I'm trying to do exactly what you asked of me and you refused for a completely ridiculous reason. You can just die man.

[MacDougall]

More than happy to reconsider if you reconsider the way you're engaging with me and play more of a straight bat.

[DarlingMonroe]

Well duh, I spent a full day phase literally being the wolfiest, big risky move there. At least Mac has had a nuanced take on it. Dont make me roll my eyes. Defensive? HA at no point am I saying dont vote me, do it. Vote me out. If you cant find the actual wolves and want to give up and pick the easy win thats on you xoxox

what arguments? What players? what about them is weak? what about them is superficial?

I dont like your ducks and staplers. The clown honks you make with them seem gronk and shleem

Well, sorry to break to you; dont know if that "big risky move" really paid off how you intended

or maybe it did

[RondoDimBuckle]

A simple yes/no question while I'm trying to do exactly what you asked of me and you refused for a completely ridiculous reason. You can just die man.

Understandable have a great day. NGL I am excited to exit the game

[MacDougall]

Having your play criticised is annoying and I get that. I'm not throwing away the idea you're somewhat leveraged into a pro town tactical plan. But if you want my blind acceptance and assistance I expect at least a little assistance.

[MacDougall]

At this point the amount I've tried to enable you to be town should make it blatantly obvious I'm town to you but you're asking me to be okay with being voted into a tie and won't even say whether a tie between Pyxxy and I is a good outcome even if we are both town?

[RondoDimBuckle]

nah it's terse even aside from that tbh

I would prefer you + pyxxy for reasons that I need not say out loud but at this point I need your machismo to pull shit into line

I dunno how I'm supposed to operate under these conditions.

You want me voted into a tie and I have to take it on faith it's for the greater good?

Is it for the greater good if Pyxxy is also town?

I said what I want not what will happen. I personally dont think pyxxy is town for an [REDACTED] [REDACTED] I will not say out loud. But I know I could be [REDACTED] on that so I am not fighting too hard for it.

Can you answer my question straight?

Having your play criticised is annoying and I get that. I'm not throwing away the idea you're somewhat leveraged into a pro town tactical plan. But if you want my blind acceptance and assistance I expect at least a little assistance.

How is it not answered in the same response?

What are the odds you and pyxxy are the same alignment?

[MacDougall]

I agree with you that DM is acting weird. I don't trust their townread on me and I feel like the whole wolf team might be simply blatantly trying to pocket me as a tactic.

[RondoDimBuckle]

At this point the amount I've tried to enable you to be town should make it blatantly obvious I'm town to you but you're asking me to be okay with being voted into a tie and won't even say whether a tie between Pyxxy and I is a good outcome even if we are both town?

I dropped the gimmick because you asked. Regret it immensely. If I survive, going back to it tomorrow. Peace

[MacDougall]

nah it's terse even aside from that tbh

I would prefer you + pyxxy for reasons that I need not say out loud but at this point I need your machismo to pull shit into line

I dunno how I'm supposed to operate under these conditions.

You want me voted into a tie and I have to take it on faith it's for the greater good?

Is it for the greater good if Pyxxy is also town?

I said what I want not what will happen. I personally dont think pyxxy is town for an [REDACTED] [REDACTED] I will not say out loud. But I know I could be [REDACTED] on that so I am not fighting too hard for it.

Can you answer my question straight?

Having your play criticised is annoying and I get that. I'm not throwing away the idea you're somewhat leveraged into a pro town tactical plan. But if you want my blind acceptance and assistance I expect at least a little assistance.

How is it not answered in the same response?

What are the odds you and pyxxy are the same alignment?

At present I know I'm town so the question is what is the likelihood Pyxxy is so the percentage would be slightly >rand imo. I'm certainly not convinced they're a hit yet.

And sorry but I don't see how you've provided a straight answer to the question does a tie create a pro town outcome if we're both town.

[RondoDimBuckle]

nah it's terse even aside from that tbh

I would prefer you + pyxxy for reasons that I need not say out loud but at this point I need your machismo to pull shit into line

I dunno how I'm supposed to operate under these conditions.

You want me voted into a tie and I have to take it on faith it's for the greater good?

Is it for the greater good if Pyxxy is also town?

I said what I want not what will happen. I personally dont think pyxxy is town for an [REDACTED] [REDACTED] I will not say out loud. But I know I could be [REDACTED] on that so I am not fighting too hard for it.

Can you answer my question straight?

Having your play criticised is annoying and I get that. I'm not throwing away the idea you're somewhat leveraged into a pro town tactical plan. But if you want my blind acceptance and assistance I expect at least a little assistance.

How is it not answered in the same response?

What are the odds you and pyxxy are the same alignment?

At present I know I'm town so the question is what is the likelihood Pyxxy is so the percentage would be slightly >rand imo. I'm certainly not convinced they're a hit yet.

And sorry but I don't see how you've provided a straight answer to the question does a tie create a pro town outcome if we're both town.

pick whoever you want then if you dont want it to be you. I am not going to answer that

[MacDougall]

At this point the amount I've tried to enable you to be town should make it blatantly obvious I'm town to you but you're asking me to be okay with being voted into a tie and won't even say whether a tie between Pyxxy and I is a good outcome even if we are both town?

I dropped the gimmick because you asked. Regret it immensely. If I survive, going back to it tomorrow. Peace

Sure but then you voted me and then pushed for a tie between me and Pyxxy and then the minute I tried to figure out what to do with this whole confusing situation you refused to give me a straight answer because DM upset you or something.

It's so painful.

[DarlingMonroe]

I agree with you that DM is acting weird. I don't trust their townread on me and I feel like the whole wolf team might be simply blatantly trying to pocket me as a tactic.

I am not trying to pocket you or anybody else; I am reacting and sharing to what I am seeing here on the thread. You're entitled to not trusting my townread (indirectly doubting your own town play?) of you, but what I saw was wolves trying to get a really active player framed/lynched; I can also be wrong and you could be a wolf, if thats the case, my hat to you, you got me to believe you are town

[MacDougall]

nah it's terse even aside from that tbh

I would prefer you + pyxxy for reasons that I need not say out loud but at this point I need your machismo to pull shit into line

I dunno how I'm supposed to operate under these conditions.

You want me voted into a tie and I have to take it on faith it's for the greater good?

Is it for the greater good if Pyxxy is also town?

I said what I want not what will happen. I personally dont think pyxxy is town for an [REDACTED] [REDACTED] I will not say out loud. But I know I could be [REDACTED] on that so I am not fighting too hard for it.

Can you answer my question straight?

Having your play criticised is annoying and I get that. I'm not throwing away the idea you're somewhat leveraged into a pro town tactical plan. But if you want my blind acceptance and assistance I expect at least a little assistance.

How is it not answered in the same response?

What are the odds you and pyxxy are the same alignment?

At present I know I'm town so the question is what is the likelihood Pyxxy is so the percentage would be slightly >rand imo. I'm certainly not convinced they're a hit yet.

And sorry but I don't see how you've provided a straight answer to the question does a tie create a pro town outcome if we're both town.

pick whoever you want then if you dont want it to be you. I am not going to answer that

So the tie you need to create you refuse to answer whether it'd be good for town regardless of the alignment of those within it.

Seems the same as admitting that it won't be.

Which is fine. But you could have just said that and spared us both this absolutely mind numbing interaction.

[MacDougall]

I agree with you that DM is acting weird. I don't trust their townread on me and I feel like the whole wolf team might be simply blatantly trying to pocket me as a tactic.

I am not trying to pocket you or anybody else; I am reacting and sharing to what I am seeing here on the thread. You're entitled to not trusting my townread (indirectly doubting your own town play?) of you, but what I saw was wolves trying to get a really active player framed/lynched; I can also be wrong and you could be a wolf, if thats the case, my hat to you, you got me to believe you are town

You have to understand I've got like half the game convinced I'm sus and the other half convinced I'm town. Virtually nobody is hedging and that's unusual and challenging.

It feels like almost everyone but Robyn is playing a mini game.

[RondoDimBuckle]

I would prefer you + pyxxy for reasons that I need not say out loud but at this point I need your machismo to pull shit into line

I dunno how I'm supposed to operate under these conditions.

You want me voted into a tie and I have to take it on faith it's for the greater good?

Is it for the greater good if Pyxxy is also town?

I said what I want not what will happen. I personally dont think pyxxy is town for an [REDACTED] [REDACTED] I will not say out loud. But I know I could be [REDACTED] on that so I am not fighting too hard for it.

Can you answer my question straight?

Having your play criticised is annoying and I get that. I'm not throwing away the idea you're somewhat leveraged into a pro town tactical plan. But if you want my blind acceptance and assistance I expect at least a little assistance.

How is it not answered in the same response?

What are the odds you and pyxxy are the same alignment?

At present I know I'm town so the question is what is the likelihood Pyxxy is so the percentage would be slightly >rand imo. I'm certainly not convinced they're a hit yet.

And sorry but I don't see how you've provided a straight answer to the question does a tie create a pro town outcome if we're both town.

pick whoever you want then if you dont want it to be you. I am not going to answer that

So the tie you need to create you refuse to answer whether it'd be good for town regardless of the alignment of those within it.

Seems the same as admitting that it won't be.

Which is fine. But you could have just said that and spared us both this absolutely mind numbing interaction.

You can make any assumptions you want

[RondoDimBuckle]

I agree with you that DM is acting weird. I don't trust their townread on me and I feel like the whole wolf team might be simply blatantly trying to pocket me as a tactic.

I am not trying to pocket you or anybody else; I am reacting and sharing to what I am seeing here on the thread. You're entitled to not trusting my townread (indirectly doubting your own town play?) of you, but what I saw was wolves trying to get a really active player framed/lynched; I can also be wrong and you could be a wolf, if thats the case, my hat to you, you got me to believe you are town

You have to understand I've got like half the game convinced I'm sus and the other half convinced I'm town. Virtually nobody is hedging and that's unusual and challenging.

It feels like almost everyone but Robyn is playing a mini game.

Which is why it would be helpful to resolve you.

[MacDougall]

@DarlingMonroe let's talk about not Rondo. Let's talk about the rest of the people townreading me and how you feel about them?

Porscha
Abigail
Tutuu
Pyxxy

[MacDougall]

and Robyn

[DarlingMonroe]

It's crazy how it escalated when all I did was ask Rondo why he was so SUS on Mac; to which he didn't reply to the question just answered with 2 more defensive questions

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Why have you been inactive for a day a night and half a day? Why are you trying to give me shit when youve done shit all yourself?

[RondoDimBuckle]

It's crazy how it escalated when all I did was ask Rondo why he was so SUS on Mac; to which he didn't reply to the question just answered with 2 more defensive questions

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Why have you been inactive for a day a night and half a day? Why are you trying to give me shit when youve done shit all yourself?

Its crazy how you are STILL on this

[DarlingMonroe]

@DarlingMonroe let's talk about not Rondo. Let's talk about the rest of the people townreading me and how you feel about them?

Porscha
Abigail
Tutuu
Pyxxy

and Robyn

Deal, I can get on board with that. Need to go through their posts again to give an answer I feel comfortable sharing

[MacDougall]

I agree with you that DM is acting weird. I don't trust their townread on me and I feel like the whole wolf team might be simply blatantly trying to pocket me as a tactic.

I am not trying to pocket you or anybody else; I am reacting and sharing to what I am seeing here on the thread. You're entitled to not trusting my townread (indirectly doubting your own town play?) of you, but what I saw was wolves trying to get a really active player framed/lynched; I can also be wrong and you could be a wolf, if thats the case, my hat to you, you got me to believe you are town

You have to understand I've got like half the game convinced I'm sus and the other half convinced I'm town. Virtually nobody is hedging and that's unusual and challenging.

It feels like almost everyone but Robyn is playing a mini game.

Which is why it would be helpful to resolve you.

Yeh but sadly I'm town and I'm not gonna just sit here and allow for that because town will just lose if I do because it'd mean town goes into day 3 off a Mac miselim. How do you feel the wim of the town would be then?

I don't think there'd be a snowballs chance in hell town could win if I got miselimmed today. I know it's egotist but I see no evidence to suggest it'd happen. Convince me I'm wrong.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Its crazy how you are STILL on this

It's crazy how it escalated when all I did was ask Rondo why he was so SUS on Mac; to which he didn't reply to the question just answered with 2 more defensive questions

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Why have you been inactive for a day a night and half a day? Why are you trying to give me shit when youve done shit all yourself?

EBWOP

[MacDougall]

It's crazy how it escalated when all I did was ask Rondo why he was so SUS on Mac; to which he didn't reply to the question just answered with 2 more defensive questions

@RondoDimBuckle why are u pushing Mac when hes probably my strongest town read? If town, not helpful. If wolf, not helpful.

Why have you been inactive for a day a night and half a day? Why are you trying to give me shit when youve done shit all yourself?

Its crazy how you are STILL on this

I dunno man I've been townreading you and even I have nfi how to reconcile your blatant refusal to be remotely helpful to my solving process as townie.

[DarlingMonroe]

im gonna log off, take a break, and the come back to answer / give reads on the players you mentioned that are townreading you @MacDougall <3

[RondoDimBuckle]

I agree with you that DM is acting weird. I don't trust their townread on me and I feel like the whole wolf team might be simply blatantly trying to pocket me as a tactic.

I am not trying to pocket you or anybody else; I am reacting and sharing to what I am seeing here on the thread. You're entitled to not trusting my townread (indirectly doubting your own town play?) of you, but what I saw was wolves trying to get a really active player framed/lynched; I can also be wrong and you could be a wolf, if thats the case, my hat to you, you got me to believe you are town

You have to understand I've got like half the game convinced I'm sus and the other half convinced I'm town. Virtually nobody is hedging and that's unusual and challenging.

It feels like almost everyone but Robyn is playing a mini game.

Which is why it would be helpful to resolve you.

Yeh but sadly I'm town and I'm not gonna just sit here and allow for that because town will just lose if I do because it'd mean town goes into day 3 off a Mac miselim. How do you feel the wim of the town would be then?

I don't think there'd be a snowballs chance in hell town could win if I got miselimmed today. I know it's egotist but I see no evidence to suggest it'd happen. Convince me I'm wrong.

True blue, that roo hopped off like a rat up a drainpipe, I tell ya! Ripper day, reckon sheila's didgeridoo tunes rivalled the kookaburra's laughter. Ute's chockers, gotta chuck a sickie, go for a frothy at the local, ya know? Strewth, snag sangers sizzlin' on the barbie, smells like summer in the arvo. Topnotch, the surf's pumpin', gonna ride those tubes till sunset, mate! Mate, snagged a cold one from the esky, let's have a chinwag by the billabong. Earbashing, everyone's yakka about the footy, can't escape the banter, eh?

[MacDougall]

@Porscha weren't you scumreading Rondo?

[MacDougall]

Come on y'all. Let's not ruin Roxy's sick game. Play. Better spirit, effort etc.

[Porscha]

@Porscha weren't you scumreading Rondo?

I wasn't townreading him was really where I was, it's why I was half begging anyone to explain their tr on him, but now he's being really combative in a shitty bad faith bad attitude way that's objectively anti town and I'm over it

[Porscha]

I also don't really have the mental capacity to be playing riddles trying to figure out his reads if he goes back to doing it tomorrow, I don't feel well and its aggravating to have a dead thread only to get revived by behavior I'm not interested in rewarding

[Porscha]

I won't be here for end of day either, move if you really want, but consider my vote planted

[RondoDimBuckle]

@Porscha weren't you scumreading Rondo?

I wasn't townreading him was really where I was, it's why I was half begging anyone to explain their tr on him, but now he's being really combative in a shitty bad faith bad attitude way that's objectively anti town and I'm over it

Porscha obv wolf now. When I die, flip her first. No

if I dont wifom rondo back then that's no fun lol, I'm surprised you took it as a legitimate answer to his illegitimate comment

The above is trimmed. But this highlights porscha wanting to just kinda vibe with the fact that I am acting so wolfy

I'm Littlefeather

and rondo is playing dumb like he forgot he is just being obnoxiously wifomy

Yet I am also being dumb and obnoxious? ok weird flip back from the flop

I dont know how anybody is reading rondo with any seriousness right now

Trying to push back against people town reading me, specifically Mac and LongCon

I feel like I've been barely even trying and I'm top poster. That's kind of weird to me.

Well "obv town" rondo said dadv so maybe trust your read there since its so strong

Sarcasm comes across as salty wolf not town porscha

Spoiler: show

Found Scotty irl and we talked about the game. He outed his role as a 3p to me and we're on side to sweep.

Spoiler: show

for anyone who thinks this is real this is just scottys cousin

And here i really thought scotty was just an exceptional canine specimen capable of keyboard use

Here is the kind of interaction I expect from town porscha but she does it on a meming throw away post at scotty and not on any of the other posts I have done this game. She is usually so excited to engage with me and ask me about reads but nothing yet so far.

Now that enough time has passed and everyone has posted. I can start to claim some wild things.

I am basically spewed town at this point. I am IC and town should just do whatever I say.

I want neon/sig/porscha wagons. Pick 2 and get them going.

Now when neon catches up I can recind if she towns up and say was feeling her out with a fake push. And my distance from mac and porscha increases

IC? how do you figure? lol

When I had been wolfy for night 0 and all of d1 not a single person other than Porscha (And leetic but that was an uneffective push) was trying to keep me in the POE

Seriously this game is slow as molasses on Sunday

You aren't really doing much to change that though with your maintained shtick. It's kind of demotivating because I still think you're probably town.

I thought Rondo was doing just fine today, participation-wise. His opinions are coming through his schtick just fine over here.

really? I have seen one post that made me go "wow that one might almost be ai"

Long Con again being able to understand what I was doing but Porscha trying to keep me in the POE.

[VOTE: Porscha ] aubergine

She has been constantly engaging with everyone about me but not engaging with me directly because she doesnt want me to focus on her.

[RondoDimBuckle]

good news is, that means the newbie is less likely to be wolf if I am right

[Porscha]

lol-worthy post rondo

[RondoDimBuckle]

lol-worthy post rondo

tell me how I am wrong

[Porscha]

yeah, I'm the only guy who isn't townreading rondo. sure

I'm not keeping you in poe, you're doing that to yourself

[RondoDimBuckle]

You know what. Chop me. Im not coming back

[Porscha]

if you're town, it makes infinitely more sense to question who would be tmi'ing you town with your play this game and yet you do not do this

[Long Con]

Ok, this has gone far enough.

I'm Clark Griswold.

I checked Rondo, and he's Town.

Move your votes.

[RondoDimBuckle]

Ok, this has gone far enough.

I'm Clark Griswold.

I checked Rondo, and he's Town.

Move your votes.

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, I was bluffing.

I had a feeling you had checked me, your read had changed too confidently. I was oscillating between wolf tmi and cop

I was fully willing to go over

[Long Con]

Ok, this has gone far enough.

I'm Clark Griswold.

I checked Rondo, and he's Town.

Move your votes.

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, I was bluffing.

I had a feeling you had checked me, your read had changed too confidently. I was oscillating between wolf tmi and cop

I was fully willing to go over

What choice did I have? You're the only one I know for sure.

[RondoDimBuckle]

pretty sure DM is probably town, Porscha is likely town too but her behaviour really is worrying me. Mac probably town.

I wanted to pyxxy mac to confirm mac town so I could relax and I am pretty sure from angle shoot that pyxxy is mafia.

Leetic probably town as well. Robyn is the one I really think is mafia on my wagon. I am happy for a robyn / pyxxy tie to find out

[Long Con]

pretty sure DM is probably town, Porscha is likely town too but her behaviour really is worrying me. Mac probably town.

I wanted to pyxxy mac to confirm mac town so I could relax and I am pretty sure from angle shoot that pyxxy is mafia.

Leetic probably town as well. Robyn is the one I really think is mafia on my wagon. I am happy for a robyn / pyxxy tie to find out

I don't know your deal, but I'll do what I can. I'm going to work right now, and I'll try to be here for a good vote before EoD. I'll leave it on Mac for now, try to set up what you need, and I'll fill in the gaps if need be.

[RondoDimBuckle]

also if a protection role is out there protect longcon not me

[RondoDimBuckle]

also lol, longcon green checking me and not Mac after that sig vote. Or anyone on the Sig wagon

[RondoDimBuckle]

Cant blame him tho