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Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:42 pm
by Turnip Head
Canucklehead wrote:Is anyone feeling leery about Dom? He's got that BUTTY/snappy quality to his posts this game that reminds me of Film Directors. He was a bad baddie then, and It pinged me in that game, too, but he assured me (and I gullibly beleived him) that it was b/c of real life busyness and mafia exhaustion.....
But now that I'm seeing it again, I'm feeling cautious about it. I seem to remember Dom being one of the funnier/jokier players of the old crew....so maybe I just don't know how to rea new Dom? I dunno, but is like to hear others' thoughts before I dig too hard into Dom as a suspect.
He's still on my radar, but I find this LC/MM business to be much more compelling at the moment.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:53 pm
by Long Con
TH, I'm a Civvie, you are barking up the wrong tree here. Everything I've said has just been the plain truth, with no subterfuge behind it.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:03 pm
by Turnip Head
Can you answer why you went after MM for self-voting, but neither of the first two players who did it? And can you answer why you would want to try to get others to vote for MM instead of voting for BF, when you had mentioned suspicions of BF as well - suspicions which you apparently currently still have? :P

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:20 pm
by fingersplints
Canucklehead wrote:Is anyone feeling leery about Dom? He's got that BUTTY/snappy quality to his posts this game that reminds me of Film Directors. He was a bad baddie then, and It pinged me in that game, too, but he assured me (and I gullibly beleived him) that it was b/c of real life busyness and mafia exhaustion.....
But now that I'm seeing it again, I'm feeling cautious about it. I seem to remember Dom being one of the funnier/jokier players of the old crew....so maybe I just don't know how to rea new Dom? I dunno, but is like to hear others' thoughts before I dig too hard into Dom as a suspect.
I haven't seen anything suspicious, but I tend to read Dom as a civvie so not sure I am the best to ask.

Something feels different about LC, but I've seen him have all kinds of roles and it doesn't remind me of any of them, so I'm really not sure what to make of it.

MM seems most suspicious to me. None of his posts seem like the civvie MM that I know.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:22 pm
by fingersplints
I also don't think I said :rip: BR and bye to wolfy and hello to DP.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:39 pm
by Canucklehead
I'm not sure I really get the LC suspicions. I have never been or seen a baddie who isn't acutely aware of who is being lynched at all times. The first thing that happens in baddie chats when someone checks in is a quick summary of which way the lynh winds are blowing, and what that means for the team. So LC's morning mix-up with BF really makes it difficult for me to suspect him. Yes, I suppose he could have faked it.....but what kind of sense would that make??
So yeah. I'm not really understanding TH's LC thing.

MM I have no real read on. He is one of a group of players that always blur together in my mind, and who I have a very hard time reading as anything other than "generic mafia participant". My brain is only capable of grasping on to big, goofy personalities, it seems...
So I don't really have an opinion on MM at this time.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:44 pm
by Turnip Head
Think about this this way Canuck. LC suspected BF. According to his early morning mixup, he still suspects BF. BF got a bunch of votes before LC voted.

So why did LC vote for MM?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:59 pm
by Long Con
Turnip Head wrote:Think about this this way Canuck. LC suspected BF. According to his early morning mixup, he still suspects BF. BF got a bunch of votes before LC voted.

So why did LC vote for MM?
He could be on to something.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:01 pm
by juliets
Canucklehead wrote:Is anyone feeling leery about Dom? He's got that BUTTY/snappy quality to his posts this game that reminds me of Film Directors. He was a bad baddie then, and It pinged me in that game, too, but he assured me (and I gullibly beleived him) that it was b/c of real life busyness and mafia exhaustion.....
But now that I'm seeing it again, I'm feeling cautious about it. I seem to remember Dom being one of the funnier/jokier players of the old crew....so maybe I just don't know how to rea new Dom? I dunno, but is like to hear others' thoughts before I dig too hard into Dom as a suspect.
I can say his posts do have a biting/snappy feel to me but I didn't play Film Directors so I can't compare it. In Dr. Who he was an awesome baddie and I don't remember biting/snappy posts in that game (I could just be misremembering and maybe someone else who played could weigh in). So I'd have to say at this point in time I don't see it as indicative of his alignment. It's early though and I really don't have firm reads on a lot of people at this point.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:03 pm
by Canucklehead
Turnip Head wrote:Think about this this way Canuck. LC suspected BF. According to his early morning mixup, he still suspects BF. BF got a bunch of votes before LC voted.

So why did LC vote for MM?
I dunno, people often suspect more than one person at once. I just don't think that an LC on a team with the millionaire would bother with the bf suspicions at all, if his intention was to vote for MM/millionaire all along. I don't know what the trouble of suspecting bf would gain him, in that scenario. Much simpler to just go with the "principled" anti-self-vote vote, and let the civs lynch one of their own without getting embroiled in that mess.

(You are the one who is seeing LC/MM as millionaire and teamie, right? I'm having a terrible time keeping track of which cases belong to which people)

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:29 pm
by Bullzeye
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Another note I should add, TH accused LC of voting for me on Day 1 instead of blindfaeth, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice at the time, and we should be wary of voting the millionaire. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 5-1 at the time. Yet TH voted for you, when you had zero votes, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 7-3 at the time.

Being wary of voting the millionaire is all well and good, but if we're too wary of it we'll never lynch him.
Turnip Head wrote: LC said he was suspicious of BF. I was not suspicious of him. Why would I vote for someone I'm not suspicious of? And why wouldn't LC vote for someone he was suspicious of?

I didn't interpret Zomba's post as giving up. I interpreted it as "Great, now I'm screwed". And that's a reaction that I can see a player having with any role - civ, bad, whatever. Someone coming at you on Day 1 acting like they know something sucks no matter what your role is. And if we are to believe SVS's reading of the will, blindfaeth knew nothing about Zombarella's role.
Agree with your interpretation of Zomb. As I said earlier, if she was bad I think her team would've helped work out something for her to say that looked better than what she did. I think SVS is right in her reading, looking back over BF it makes sense. He himself said he became more convinced because of his opposition - suggesting that he knew it wasn't concrete to begin with.
LizKeen wrote:Mr. Fung, do you know if the ivory, jade and amber would be dangerous if they were in the hands of the wrong team?
What do you mean by the 'wrong' team? There's only one team that wants them and they seem fairly unthreatening.

LizKeen wrote:Is there usually this much requoting in Syndicate games? I'm really wondering if it's a mafia tactic just to be a massive distraction. If so then you're doing well.
Is this a serious comment? People quote each other for easy reference to things they've said...

LizKeen wrote:I'm going back and re-reading (a task I dread) everyone bf was suspicious of so he won't have died in vain. The mafia would have most definitely wanted him so and I'd say there's at least one if not more of you in those 8 votes. Black Rock is off the hook obviously and I'm giving Zomb the benefit of the doubt now so that at least narrows it down to 6 for me.
Will be interested in what you see here.
Canucklehead wrote:Is anyone feeling leery about Dom? He's got that BUTTY/snappy quality to his posts this game that reminds me of Film Directors. He was a bad baddie then, and It pinged me in that game, too, but he assured me (and I gullibly beleived him) that it was b/c of real life busyness and mafia exhaustion.....
But now that I'm seeing it again, I'm feeling cautious about it. I seem to remember Dom being one of the funnier/jokier players of the old crew....so maybe I just don't know how to rea new Dom? I dunno, but is like to hear others' thoughts before I dig too hard into Dom as a suspect.
Hasn't seemed too unusual to me, I do agree he's a bit snappy but I think perhaps nerves were touched on day one with the info debate. Interesting if Golden really is silenced, as someone (Liz?) pointed out. Done to frame Dom? Or because of something else entirely?

I think the TH/LC/MM debate is interesting and worth keeping an eye on.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:39 pm
by Turnip Head
Canucklehead wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Think about this this way Canuck. LC suspected BF. According to his early morning mixup, he still suspects BF. BF got a bunch of votes before LC voted.

So why did LC vote for MM?
I dunno, people often suspect more than one person at once. I just don't think that an LC on a team with the millionaire would bother with the bf suspicions at all, if his intention was to vote for MM/millionaire all along. I don't know what the trouble of suspecting bf would gain him, in that scenario. Much simpler to just go with the "principled" anti-self-vote vote, and let the civs lynch one of their own without getting embroiled in that mess.

(You are the one who is seeing LC/MM as millionaire and teamie, right? I'm having a terrible time keeping track of which cases belong to which people)
Then why wouldn't he vote for the person he was suspicious of with the most votes?

To answer your question, LC bothered with the BF suspicion because, as a baddie, he felt an obligation to at least comment on the biggest talking point of the thread on Day 1 (BF). He never intended to vote for BF, but he wanted to at least be on record taking a stance on him before he hanged.

And yes, that's my theory.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:51 pm
by Canucklehead
I see where you're coming from now. It's an interesting theory.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:02 pm
by Marmot
Bullzeye wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Another note I should add, TH accused LC of voting for me on Day 1 instead of blindfaeth, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice at the time, and we should be wary of voting the millionaire. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 5-1 at the time. Yet TH voted for you, when you had zero votes, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 7-3 at the time.

Being wary of voting the millionaire is all well and good, but if we're too wary of it we'll never lynch him.
Just so we're clear, it was TH's recommendation to avoid voting the millionaire unless we are actually lynching him (how we would know, I have no idea). I realize I worded ambiguously though.

And I want to mention it again, that even though TH is 'worried' about voting for the millionaire, he voted for Dom, even though Dom was clearly not going to be lynched. TH, if you REALLY think that Dom is bad, why did it not cross your mind that he could be the millionaire, and your vote did more harm then good?

I know that right now you think I am the millionaire, but at the time of your vote, that was definitely not the case.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:03 pm
by Marmot
fingersplints wrote:MM seems most suspicious to me. None of his posts seem like the civvie MM that I know.
If you're going to draw comparisons to "civvie MM", would you mind explaining what that means please? What would the civvie MM that you know do?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:10 pm
by Turnip Head
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Another note I should add, TH accused LC of voting for me on Day 1 instead of blindfaeth, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice at the time, and we should be wary of voting the millionaire. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 5-1 at the time. Yet TH voted for you, when you had zero votes, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 7-3 at the time.

Being wary of voting the millionaire is all well and good, but if we're too wary of it we'll never lynch him.
Just so we're clear, it was TH's recommendation to avoid voting the millionaire unless we are actually lynching him (how we would know, I have no idea). I realize I worded ambiguously though.

And I want to mention it again, that even though TH is 'worried' about voting for the millionaire, he voted for Dom, even though Dom was clearly not going to be lynched. TH, if you REALLY think that Dom is bad, why did it not cross your mind that he could be the millionaire, and your vote did more harm then good?

I know that right now you think I am the millionaire, but at the time of your vote, that was definitely not the case.
I did think you could be the Millionaire at the time of my vote, actually :wiz: I voted Dom because I did not suspect BF (LC did, so this is not an even comparison), and I had to vote somewhere.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:19 pm
by Marmot
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Another note I should add, TH accused LC of voting for me on Day 1 instead of blindfaeth, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice at the time, and we should be wary of voting the millionaire. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 5-1 at the time. Yet TH voted for you, when you had zero votes, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 7-3 at the time.

Being wary of voting the millionaire is all well and good, but if we're too wary of it we'll never lynch him.
Just so we're clear, it was TH's recommendation to avoid voting the millionaire unless we are actually lynching him (how we would know, I have no idea). I realize I worded ambiguously though.

And I want to mention it again, that even though TH is 'worried' about voting for the millionaire, he voted for Dom, even though Dom was clearly not going to be lynched. TH, if you REALLY think that Dom is bad, why did it not cross your mind that he could be the millionaire, and your vote did more harm then good?

I know that right now you think I am the millionaire, but at the time of your vote, that was definitely not the case.
I did think you could be the Millionaire at the time of my vote, actually :wiz: I voted Dom because I did not suspect BF (LC did, so this is not an even comparison), and I had to vote somewhere.
Bullshit. This post is the only post you made about me at the time of your vote. :eye:

So why didn't you vote for me? You could have gotten me lynched. Why did you vote for Dom who had zero votes (whose suspicion you seem to have conveniently dropped) instead of me who had 3 votes?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:24 pm
by Turnip Head
LC's vote went a long way towards convincing me about you too, MM. I didn't vote for you because I think you're the Millionaire :derp: , and the BF/Zomba thing was going to need some sort of closure. If I had suddenly started campaigning against you after LC's vote, people would have thought I was haphazardly trying to save BF in the eleventh hour, and I didn't want my intentions to get muddled. Talking about it in detail for Day 2 was a smarter move for me to make, IMO. Sometimes the key to being civvie is using some discretion.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:34 pm
by rabbit8
Discretion? That sounds awfully like baddie speak.

You didn't want to save civvie BF? That sounds awfully uncivvielike.....

:shifty:

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:37 pm
by Long Con
rabbit8 wrote:Discretion? That sounds awfully like baddie speak.

You didn't want to save civvie BF? That sounds awfully uncivvielike.....

:shifty:
Oh, lay off TH. I don't think he's a baddie.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:41 pm
by rabbit8
Long Con wrote:
rabbit8 wrote:Discretion? That sounds awfully like baddie speak.

You didn't want to save civvie BF? That sounds awfully uncivvielike.....

:shifty:
Oh, lay off TH. I don't think he's a baddie.

But are you sure? Your memory seems questionable these days.......

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:47 pm
by fingersplints
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
fingersplints wrote:MM seems most suspicious to me. None of his posts seem like the civvie MM that I know.
If you're going to draw comparisons to "civvie MM", would you mind explaining what that means please? What would the civvie MM that you know do?
You are loads more aggressive this game then what I have seen from your civvie game in the past. I think TH has made some interesting points on you as well.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:36 pm
by Turnip Head
rabbit8 wrote:Discretion? That sounds awfully like baddie speak.

You didn't want to save civvie BF? That sounds awfully uncivvielike.....

:shifty:
BF didn't want help. We weren't listening to him, and so he wanted out. He made this quite clear.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:39 pm
by S~V~S
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Another note I should add, TH accused LC of voting for me on Day 1 instead of blindfaeth, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice at the time, and we should be wary of voting the millionaire. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 5-1 at the time. Yet TH voted for you, when you had zero votes, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 7-3 at the time.

Being wary of voting the millionaire is all well and good, but if we're too wary of it we'll never lynch him.
Just so we're clear, it was TH's recommendation to avoid voting the millionaire unless we are actually lynching him (how we would know, I have no idea). I realize I worded ambiguously though.

And I want to mention it again, that even though TH is 'worried' about voting for the millionaire, he voted for Dom, even though Dom was clearly not going to be lynched. TH, if you REALLY think that Dom is bad, why did it not cross your mind that he could be the millionaire, and your vote did more harm then good?

I know that right now you think I am the millionaire, but at the time of your vote, that was definitely not the case.
I did think you could be the Millionaire at the time of my vote, actually :wiz: I voted Dom because I did not suspect BF (LC did, so this is not an even comparison), and I had to vote somewhere.
Bullshit. This post is the only post you made about me at the time of your vote. :eye:

So why didn't you vote for me? You could have gotten me lynched. Why did you vote for Dom who had zero votes (whose suspicion you seem to have conveniently dropped) instead of me who had 3 votes?
Do you make posts about every thought you have? When it comes to suspicions and actual game relevant topics, you must not have many thoughts. Calling someone out as a bullshitter becasue they made only one post on a topic on Day One is kinda, well, bullshit.

I have been looking more at Zomba, but this post got my eye big time, and made me reread this whole thing. It almost sounds like you are trying to goad TH into voting for you. You sound pretty pissy in general. I definitely associate that with bad ol' MM.

If I read his case correctly, if you are the Millionaire, why would he pile more votes on you if it looks like someone else is going to be lynched? So you can become more powerful? Why the fuck would anyone do that, lol, except maybe your teammates?

Plus having read your earlier replies, you seem to be trying to compare apples & oranges. "J'accuse!!", said MM, "If both you & Person X did 1+2=3, how can you accuse Person X for doing the same thing you did!!" When what Person X actually did was 2x3=6, not 1+2=3 at all. Yeah, they both involve numerals & symbols, but they aren't the same. That is how your vote comparisons read.

Now both LC & Juliets have said they still harbor suspicion of you. TH apparently does, and now I kinda do too.

I am going to suggest that no one vote for MM unless we seem to have a majority consensus to do so. Isolate him, as it were. I don't mind keeping him around for a while. I like jokes and banter as much as the next person.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:50 pm
by Elohcin
S~V~S wrote:
I am going to suggest that no one vote for MM unless we seem to have a majority consensus to do so. Isolate him, as it were. I don't mind keeping him around for a while. I like jokes and banter as much as the next person.
I think this may be a good idea. But why not do this for the other two Day 1 self voters as well?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:53 pm
by juliets
I agree SVS. I don't want to vote him unless a whole bunch of people are going to vote him because I don't want to risk giving him points if he doesn't get lynched. But I do suspect him enough to vote him if others are going to.

Its been very quiet in here today - where is everyone?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:56 pm
by S~V~S
I don't think anyone else voted for them, right? I am more leery of MM for thread reasons, and becasue he got other votes even though he was the third self voter. But other than the self vote, is there any real reason to suspect them? If not, I have no problem with that :shrug2:

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:25 pm
by rabbit8
juliets wrote:I agree SVS. I don't want to vote him unless a whole bunch of people are going to vote him because I don't want to risk giving him points if he doesn't get lynched. But I do suspect him enough to vote him if others are going to.

Its been very quiet in here today - where is everyone?

JC.....JC.......JC......Jc.......Jc......Jc.......jc.......jc.....jc..............................

It's a lot like an Echo chamber in here lately. :disappoint:

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:28 pm
by juliets
I'm hearing that echo all the way over here...here....here......here

llama needs to get into that smashfest thing and smash MP and Epi back into this game.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:34 pm
by Canucklehead
S~V~S wrote:
I am going to suggest that no one vote for MM unless we seem to have a majority consensus to do so. Isolate him, as it were. I don't mind keeping him around for a while. I like jokes and banter as much as the next person.
I'm on board with this, since I don't think it does any harm at the moment.
I am, however, generally skeptical of the notion that the millionaire would self-vote since it would be such an obvious move. It's not what I would do with the role, but it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility, and I have no problem with being cautious in the way SVS suggested, so long as we don't get overzealous ad start demanding that all toes be unanimous always because Millionaire. (This is not what SVS was suggesting at all, but I could see a baddie team trying to ride SVS' coat tails and push that kind of hysteria).

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:38 pm
by rabbit8
Canucklehead wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
I am going to suggest that no one vote for MM unless we seem to have a majority consensus to do so. Isolate him, as it were. I don't mind keeping him around for a while. I like jokes and banter as much as the next person.
I'm on board with this, since I don't think it does any harm at the moment.
I am, however, generally skeptical of the notion that the millionaire would self-vote since it would be such an obvious move. It's not what I would do with the role, but it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility, and I have no problem with being cautious in the way SVS suggested, so long as we don't get overzealous ad start demanding that all toes be unanimous always because Millionaire. (This is not what SVS was suggesting at all, but I could see a baddie team trying to ride SVS' coat tails and push that kind of hysteria).

The arguments for or against self voting are interesting in regards to the Millionaire.
The WIFOM is strong with that role!

It's also hurts the brain to try to determine if someone would or would not.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:45 pm
by Epignosis
juliets wrote:I'm hearing that echo all the way over here...here....here......here

llama needs to get into that smashfest thing and smash MP and Epi back into this game.
I'm following along all right. I've said what I've wanted to say so far. We're watching a movie right now. Hard to watch a horror film when you have to pause the damn thing every twelve minutes. :disappoint:

Is there something specific you wanted me to answer?

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:46 pm
by Turnip Head
I think I understand Epi's take on the situation pretty clearly. It's everyone else that hasn't chimed in that I'd like to hear from.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:48 pm
by juliets
No Epi i just wanted to hear your thoughts. But if nothings changed I'll just reread what you last posted.

linki yes i agree TH. It seems like there are a lot of people who havent given any opinions.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:57 pm
by S~V~S
Who are the people who missed the last lynch? I would like to hear their thoughts~ let them make it up to us :grin:

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:58 pm
by thellama73
Effective immediately, Black Rock 2.0 is replacing Bea.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:58 pm
by S~V~S
Bye Bea, YAY for Black Rock 2.0 :D

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:00 pm
by Zombarella
Hey! Black Rock! Glad you're back!
Catching up on the thread now.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:01 pm
by juliets
Welcome back BR! And also welcome DP!
Bye bea :( and bye Shep, try again another game!

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:08 pm
by Black Rock
It's beautiful to be back, I was robbed so early. I would like to avenge BR 1.0 now. I am basically caught up as I kept following along, skipping posts at will. So I have the gist of what is going on. I do not believe LC is bad, he'd be in RL trouble over that one. I doubt he would risk it. I'll be back in a little while, I was playing video games when I got the offer to replace in.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:12 pm
by Long Con
Vompatti is the lowest- laying player I have seen, and I've been finding it hard to get a handle on him. He makes me suspicious, but he always does. It's like an extended day one self-vote, watching him play.

MP is kind of suspicious, especially now that we have seen that he pulled the emotional card as a baddie to get out of trouble.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:17 pm
by Long Con
Also, welcome back wife. I was responding to an earlier post... On my phone, so I didn't see the bunch in between.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:25 pm
by Zombarella
LC - I didn't read his posts as bad really, but TH does have a good point about the votes. However, there were tons of missing votes and other votes on random people. Also, BR has a good point about her death. If Snowman were to ever kill me on Night 1 he would be in really big trouble. So...where does that leave us re MM?

MM - You think I'm bad because of two words I posted when I thought that BF ruined my role and I would supposedly only use those words if I was a thwarted baddie. There are other explanations. I don't think you get why I was upset. You self-voted without a well reasoned reason that you want to express on the thread. You kinda seem like you want to fight. I will label your behavior and posts as weird-weird. Not bad, not civ, not civ-weird. Weird-weird. Is that enough to vote for you? Maybe.

Dom and Bullz - I am mostly satisfied by your drive=by posts. Note that this will be my drive-by post for today.

MP - Where are you? I know you are busy with Smashfest, but you gotta make posts here too.

Golden - I agree that I would have expected you to post more before now. If you are silenced then I am thinking that you are probably civ.

Bye Shep and Bea. Come back soon.

Epi - You seem to be more helpful and less chaotic than I've seen you before. Who are you thinking of voting for this round?

SVS - I welcome your call to yesterday's non-voters. Also, you are looking at me again? What is it that you are thinking? I would like to hear your thoughts about Epi.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:48 pm
by Dom
Canucklehead wrote:Is anyone feeling leery about Dom? He's got that BUTTY/snappy quality to his posts this game that reminds me of Film Directors. He was a bad baddie then, and It pinged me in that game, too, but he assured me (and I gullibly beleived him) that it was b/c of real life busyness and mafia exhaustion.....
But now that I'm seeing it again, I'm feeling cautious about it. I seem to remember Dom being one of the funnier/jokier players of the old crew....so maybe I just don't know how to rea new Dom? I dunno, but is like to hear others' thoughts before I dig too hard into Dom as a suspect.
I'm honored that you thought I was funny once upon a time... but I always thought I played 50% jokes 50% realness... if that's not the case then, :shrug:


(i think I got too wrapped up in the Golden stuff and it really soured my milk tbh)
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Another note I should add, TH accused LC of voting for me on Day 1 instead of blindfaeth, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice at the time, and we should be wary of voting the millionaire. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 5-1 at the time. Yet TH voted for you, when you had zero votes, even though blindfaeth was the "obvious" lynch choice. blindfaeth was leading the lynch 7-3 at the time.

Being wary of voting the millionaire is all well and good, but if we're too wary of it we'll never lynch him.
Just so we're clear, it was TH's recommendation to avoid voting the millionaire unless we are actually lynching him (how we would know, I have no idea). I realize I worded ambiguously though.

And I want to mention it again, that even though TH is 'worried' about voting for the millionaire, he voted for Dom, even though Dom was clearly not going to be lynched. TH, if you REALLY think that Dom is bad, why did it not cross your mind that he could be the millionaire, and your vote did more harm then good?

I know that right now you think I am the millionaire, but at the time of your vote, that was definitely not the case.
Don't vote anyone-- they might be the millionaire!
Long Con wrote:Vompatti is the lowest- laying player I have seen, and I've been finding it hard to get a handle on him. He makes me suspicious, but he always does. It's like an extended day one self-vote, watching him play.

MP is kind of suspicious, especially now that we have seen that he pulled the emotional card as a baddie to get out of trouble.
I would like an answer to my question now, but I'm sure I'll receive flak for that.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:49 pm
by Tangrowth
Hey guys! Sorry I haven't been here. Smashfest has taken up more time than expected, and I'm trying to get ahead on homework since I'll be going to Houston the latter part of this week.

My goal is to start reading this behemoth of a thread tonight, and hopefully read the whole thing... :nicenod:

But we'll see if I can actually accomplish that. :P

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:51 pm
by Tangrowth
Actually, it would be super awesome if someone was around in a couple of hours after I eat and do some more homework, so that I have someone to talk to as I'm catching up! :D

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:54 pm
by Turnip Head
I'll be around in a couple hours MP, I'd be happy to discuss things with you :mafia:

And welcome back BR!

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:07 pm
by Epignosis
I'll be around as long as I have beer to consume and inspiration to write what happens next in Apocrypha.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [NIGHT 1]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:07 pm
by Long Con
This question? No, mon, I don' give no flak for nuttin'! Image
Dom wrote:
Long Con wrote:I voted Archer Ave because maybe my Ivory Arrow will become cool.

Dom, I think that you have explained yourself sufficiently, and there is still a ping on you from it.

For all I know, I could have been absolutely right about your intentions with the "us" comment, and you're a baddie, and you came up with a very reasonable explanation for the whole exchange. It's not like that's not within your mental capabilities. The explanation was sound, but that doesn't make the original ping get deleted.

I find that the earliest thing people say on a subject is the most useful, because after it happens, explanations and excuses swirl and form that could be fake or real. You can talk your way out of anything, and that's something important to remember.
What would you do if you felt like someone was outright misrepresenting what you were saying? You would let it sit?
If I felt someone was misrepresenting me, I would try to respond in a way that I thought would ensure my longest survival, and, if possible, increase my chances of catching a baddie. Exactly how that would look varies from situation to situation, but there is always a lot of options.

Re: Harry Stephen Keeler [DAY 2]

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:13 pm
by rabbit8
^^Do you still think BF is suspicious? :)