Re: [NIGHT 4] Avant-Garde Mafia 2
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:24 am
Sorry, that was way linki'd to FH's last post.Kate wrote:Based on this alone, FH, I would say CBK is the most deserving of a reread.
Sorry, that was way linki'd to FH's last post.Kate wrote:Based on this alone, FH, I would say CBK is the most deserving of a reread.
Yes--Captain Bunny Killer is definitely a priority on my list of people to read through again.Kate wrote:Based on this alone, FH, I would say CBK is the most deserving of a reread.
I agree.Kate wrote:Based on this alone, FH, I would say CBK is the most deserving of a reread.
Kate wrote:Yes. One of the last to vote and voted either when the vote was tied 6-6 or when Bea was ahead by one.
Kate wrote:Also, Chaindeath voted 4th for Rabbit when Bea was at 4. So, he tied it up.
Yes. Check out FH's post above. CBK was the 6th rabbit voter which makes it look like she was trying to save bea, a baddie that they voted out that day. (I say they because I'm also a replacement and wasn't in the game then.)Dom wrote:CBK was a Rabbit voter right?
She starts off by mentioning her suspicion of SVS. This is also the first post where she mentions rabbit and it is to say that she finds DH's observations interesting (at the time of this post, bea had received 2 votes, rabbit had 3).Captain Bunny Killer wrote:UghTorn again. I was suspicious of SVS at first too, but not becuase it looked like she was upset about a killed teammate (I think someone said that). It just seemed odd how surprised she was over the strange NK, like it was a little for show. But since I don't know hardly anyone here, I thought I would see what others thought of it. I don't know.
But DH made some interesting observations about rabbit. Of course, that would be going off of what someone else claims is normal for rabbit.
When she made this post, bea was up to 6 votes and rabbit had 5.Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Hmm. I don't know if I should feel more suspicious of Vomp or rabbit from these personal reasons. I'm not trying to drag out a response from you on this, but anyone else think that sounds like inside information?
Points against rabbit increase.
Then 10 minutes later she votes for rabbit giving him his 6th vote (Bea had 7 by this point).Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Well, rabbit it is. I'm heading out to a friend's house, aka the land of no internet, so I can't wait to watch more.
Despite focusing much more on SVS in her suspicions, she votes for rabbit again. And my theory on that is that she didn't want it to look like she only voted rabbit to save bea on Day 2, so she had to "stick with [her] rabbit vote." She also says she was torn between the two, but the first time she mentioned SVS was also the first time she mentioned rabbit. Then only mentions rabbit again during the actual Day 2 lynch phase.Captain Bunny Killer wrote:Well, friends, I'm in a bit of pickle. I'm going to bed and getting up at 5am to ride in a car for 11ish hours. I believe the vote will have passed, and I still have two pages of posts I was unable to catch up on (I was packing and playing with my niece today). I'm afraid this will look really bad for me, but I will not be able to respond to anything and I have to vote early.
As I already explained, I was suspicious of both SVS and rabbit. You can see in my posts today that I was still trying to feel out SVS. I was definitely side-tracked by rabbit yesterday, because I was torn between the two (something I posted long before the lynch came down). I am still torn honestly, but some people were pretty convincing that she was acting normally. So, I will just stick with my rabbit vote.
DharmaHelper wrote:Another shitty bandwagon ended in a civvie lynch?
These two posts do not seem like they are coming from a civvie tbh. The "I told you so" seems more like something a baddie would say to gain some civvie credit. The comments also seem more like that are intended to divide us even further....not constructive IMO.Boomslang wrote:Just wanted to say: nailed it. Maybe a bit more independent thought next lynch?
You do realize I can't be two different people right?reywaS wrote:After this last lynch and the comments immediately afterward, I'm getting a little suspicious of a few people....
I'm getting more and more suspicious of DH because of what Dom pointed out and the fact that he's been acting so sure of himself about these "bandwagons".
DharmaHelper wrote:Another shitty bandwagon ended in a civvie lynch?These two posts do not seem like they are coming from a civvie tbh. The "I told you so" seems more like something a baddie would say to gain some civvie credit. The comments also seem more like that are intended to divide us even further....not constructive IMO.Boomslang wrote:Just wanted to say: nailed it. Maybe a bit more independent thought next lynch?
I was ribbing rabbit, I wasn't being aggressive towards anyone else. I always rib rabbit. I love rabbit rib.. What were we talking about?Dom wrote:Just wanted to say this as I catch up:DharmaHelper wrote:Hey rabbit, I heard your "bank" might need a bailout.
Excuse me, DH? For someone so suspicious of all aggressive people, you are pretty freaking aggressive. This post just struck me as od. Not only is it pretty aggressive, but it's kind of the type of thing a baddie might do to try and get everyone to trust them; say I told you so!
And then you make light of the situation here:insertnamehere wrote:DH, Maybe I'm just put off by how incredibly agressive you've been all game, but I am hesitant to trust anything you say as genuine in nature. You seem to be very strong arm-ish, which I usually associate with baddies.DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe I'm just put off by how incredibly agressive you've been all game, but I am hesitant to trust anything you say as genuine in nature. You seem to be very strong arm-ish, which I usually associate with baddies.
Dunno, as I said I'm not quite willing to buy into the impending Droopwagon, probably exclusively because you seem so determined to get people on board.
insertnamehere wrote:Wow, what a jokey aloof post.DharmaHelper wrote:Lol INH :P
As for the posts you quoted, I found it funny that INH's defense to my case was essentially "no u lol"DharmaHelper wrote:S~V~S wrote:Any reason other than the fact that he wanted to avoid a penalty?
Don;t make other people do all the work, man~
You know, sometimes I wonder if people read my posts at all :P
As I said
1. Rabbit defended his contest behavior while bringing up Epig as suspect for posting and not voting. (Even if it was just a joke, Rabbit's on my list and him helping out INH only deepens my suspicions.)
2. His vote for bea seems to me to be more of a "go with the flow, don't ruffle any feathers" vote than anything else.
Adding
3. His defense thusfar has been a very snarky "No U" marathon
AddingDharmaHelper wrote:As for the posts you quoted, I found it funny that INH's defense to my case was essentially "no u lol"DharmaHelper wrote:S~V~S wrote:Any reason other than the fact that he wanted to avoid a penalty?
Don;t make other people do all the work, man~
You know, sometimes I wonder if people read my posts at all :P
As I said
1. Rabbit defended his contest behavior while bringing up Epig as suspect for posting and not voting. (Even if it was just a joke, Rabbit's on my list and him helping out INH only deepens my suspicions.)
2. His vote for bea seems to me to be more of a "go with the flow, don't ruffle any feathers" vote than anything else.
Adding
3. His defense thusfar has been a very snarky "No U" marathon
I wasn't even talking to INH in that "aggressive" post, I was talking to Kate!birdwithteeth11 wrote:I mean, what else have you accused him of besides just being overly aggressive? I'm referring to this bit specifically:
And then you make light of the situation here:insertnamehere wrote:DH, Maybe I'm just put off by how incredibly agressive you've been all game, but I am hesitant to trust anything you say as genuine in nature. You seem to be very strong arm-ish, which I usually associate with baddies.DharmaHelper wrote:Maybe I'm just put off by how incredibly agressive you've been all game, but I am hesitant to trust anything you say as genuine in nature. You seem to be very strong arm-ish, which I usually associate with baddies.
Dunno, as I said I'm not quite willing to buy into the impending Droopwagon, probably exclusively because you seem so determined to get people on board.
insertnamehere wrote:Wow, what a jokey aloof post.DharmaHelper wrote:Lol INH :P
I'm sure you didn't mean for this to be as condescending as it came out. Just because someone is wrong does not mean they did not think nor does it make them a sheep. I have seen you be wrong on more than one occasion and did not see anyone make fun of you for it.DharmaHelper wrote:INH.
Pursuing legitimate thought and sheep voting are two different things, not sure how that's the pot calling the kettle black. I'm sure you'll elaborate though.
Kate wrote:I'm sure you didn't mean for this to be as condescending as it came out. Just because someone is wrong does not mean they did not think nor does it make them a sheep. I have seen you be wrong on more than one occasion and did not see anyone make fun of you for it.DharmaHelper wrote:INH.
Pursuing legitimate thought and sheep voting are two different things, not sure how that's the pot calling the kettle black. I'm sure you'll elaborate though.
This.Kate wrote:I'm sure you didn't mean for this to be as condescending as it came out. Just because someone is wrong does not mean they did not think nor does it make them a sheep. I have seen you be wrong on more than one occasion and did not see anyone make fun of you for it.DharmaHelper wrote:INH.
Pursuing legitimate thought and sheep voting are two different things, not sure how that's the pot calling the kettle black. I'm sure you'll elaborate though.
DharmaHelper wrote:Kate wrote:I'm sure you didn't mean for this to be as condescending as it came out. Just because someone is wrong does not mean they did not think nor does it make them a sheep. I have seen you be wrong on more than one occasion and did not see anyone make fun of you for it.DharmaHelper wrote:INH.
Pursuing legitimate thought and sheep voting are two different things, not sure how that's the pot calling the kettle black. I'm sure you'll elaborate though.
I tend to use terminology like "sheep voting" "Kool aid voting" "Droopwagon" etc. very surgically. I'm not making fun of anybody.
that was day 2, nevermind.Kate wrote:I dont understand you Analysis section and what it is supposed to imply.
Wait, didn't we say earlier today that CBK and chaindeath voted Rabbit? What am I mixing up?
Nice analysis! Thanks for posting that...and thanks to FH for posting the vote orders.DharmaHelper wrote:Big ass post incoming.
5. The Truth (Mr. Droopy) 2
12. The Truth (Vompatti) 10
6. birdwithteeth (Mr. Droopy) 3
17. birdwithteeth (Vompatti) 14
7. triceratops (Mr. Droopy) 4
15. triceratops (Vompatti) 12
8. rabbit (Mr. Droopy) 5
13. rabbit (Vompatti) 11
10. Flyin' High (Mr. Droopy) 6
16. Flyin' High (Vompatti) 13
11. Littletiger (Mr. Droopy) 7
2. LittleTiger (Vompatti) 2
12. AceofSpaces (Mr. Droopy) 8
4. AceofSpaces (Vompatti) 4
13. BoatsBoatsBoats (Mr. Droopy) 9
3. BoatsBoatsBoats (Vompatti) 3
16. Kate (Mr. Droopy) 11
6. Kate (Vompatti) 6
18. chaindeath (Mr. Droopy) 12
18. chaindeath (Vompatti) 15
Droopy Votes In Order:
5. The Truth (2nd Vote for Droopy)
6. BWT (3rd Vote for Droopy)
7. Trice (4th Vote For Droopy)
8. Rabbit (5th Vote For Droopy)
10. FH (6th Vote For Droopy)
11. LT (7th Vote For Droopy)
12. Aces (8th Vote For Droopy)
13. Boats (9th Vote for Droopy)
16. Kate (11th Vote For Droopy)
18. Chaindeath (12th Vote for Droopy)
Vomp Votes In Order:
2. LittleTiger (2nd Vote for Vomp)
3. Boats (3rd Vote for Vomp)
4. Aces (4th Vote for Vomp)
6. Kate (6th Vote for Vomp)
12. The Truth (10th Vote for Vomp)
13. Rabbit (11th Vote for Vomp)
15. Trice (12th Vote for Vomp)
16. FH (13th Vote for Vomp)
17. BWT (14th Vote for Vomp)
18. Chaindeath (15th Vote for Vomp
Analysis:
Groupings (within 1 Vote of each other each vote)
LT, Aces Boats.
The Truth, Trice, Rabbit
Trice, FH, Rabbit
Aces, Kate
Kate, Boats
Order:
Chaindeath is last on each list.
LittleTiger wrote:I 2nd Kate's question, DH, what is your analysis supposed to imply?
DharmaHelper wrote:LittleTiger wrote:I 2nd Kate's question, DH, what is your analysis supposed to imply?
Umm...
It implies what it says, those people in the groups voted within one vote of each other both for the Droopy and for the Vomp votes.
I dunno what was confusing about that but there you go.
While I'm talking about it, here is some further analysis.
LT, Aces Boats.
The Truth, Trice, Rabbit
Trice, FH, Rabbit
Aces, Kate
Kate, Boats
LT is in a Group with Aces, and Boats (1 Group Total)
Aces is in a group with Boats, LT, and Kate (2 Groups Total)
Boats is in a Group with Aces, LT, and Kate (2 Groups Total)
The Truth is in a Group with Rabbit and FH (1 Group Total)
Trice is in a group with Rabbit, Truth and FH (2 Groups Total)
FH is in a group with Trice and Rabbit (1 Group Total)
Rabbit is in a group with FH, the Truth, and Trice (2 Groups Total)
Aces and Boats both appear in a group with Kate
Trice and Rabbit appear in 2 groups together (one with FH, one with The Truth)
What? You don't instantly know what he is getting at?!?!rabbit8 wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:LittleTiger wrote:I 2nd Kate's question, DH, what is your analysis supposed to imply?
Umm...
It implies what it says, those people in the groups voted within one vote of each other both for the Droopy and for the Vomp votes.
I dunno what was confusing about that but there you go.
While I'm talking about it, here is some further analysis.
LT, Aces Boats.
The Truth, Trice, Rabbit
Trice, FH, Rabbit
Aces, Kate
Kate, Boats
LT is in a Group with Aces, and Boats (1 Group Total)
Aces is in a group with Boats, LT, and Kate (2 Groups Total)
Boats is in a Group with Aces, LT, and Kate (2 Groups Total)
The Truth is in a Group with Rabbit and FH (1 Group Total)
Trice is in a group with Rabbit, Truth and FH (2 Groups Total)
FH is in a group with Trice and Rabbit (1 Group Total)
Rabbit is in a group with FH, the Truth, and Trice (2 Groups Total)
Aces and Boats both appear in a group with Kate
Trice and Rabbit appear in 2 groups together (one with FH, one with The Truth)
Can't tell if serious?
If he would lose the snark and play nice with the group I'd be much more inclined to listen to him. Like your post, for example, very niceS~V~S wrote:I dunno, when I have info, or think I do, and can't find areal case, I flood the thread with data hoping a pattern emeges to someone. This is the kind of bizarre post I make in that situation. DH has been sounding frustratted and reasonably sincere, if snarkish, to me.
He has been screaming "INH!!!!!" For days, I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt
I don't think I have ever seen you post something like what DH just posted though.S~V~S wrote:I dunno, when I have info, or think I do, and can't find areal case, I flood the thread with data hoping a pattern emeges to someone. This is the kind of bizarre post I make in that situation. DH has been sounding frustratted and reasonably sincere, if snarkish, to me.
He has been screaming "INH!!!!!" For days, I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt![]()
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