The Syndicate

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:42 pm Why Odd and not Esooa for eg, @Strawhenge?

I mean what makes Odd scummier than Esooa from your pov?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:10 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 2:00 pm(snip)
The thing is Bo didn't interact very much with you in the first days, and I don't remember from JPIC any stance regarding you, but i have to check.

I see your post count in this site is not so big, how much mafia experience do you have?
Can you link me a scum game and a town game no matter how old?

Sadly I can't link any games; the portion of the RYM forums that contained the mafia games were all deleted.

My experience with mafia was probably about 3-4 years or so from 2012ish - 2015ish. Only 3 games out of 25-30 games I was scum, and only one of those I won. And unless I'm forgetting, very few or none of those games included a miller role, and I definitely never had a miller card myself.

What are you doing when you have a role you didn't have and you don't know?
What is worse, to keep alive a slot who cannot be cleared during the game or to claim you are a weak spot for town?
Survival mentality is for scum, town wants to die in the search for truth, like Sloonei did for eg.

Me, I am reading about a new role and try to figure how to play it better.
I had a similar ability with yours in a few games and I had to write a text for Sod to appear in the write ups, and my only concern was to share my thoughts and help the village. What from your text helped the village, can you link them?

I don't have an excuse for why I screwed up my miller claim. For one, it doesn't use the word 'miller'; it only says, 'you investigate as [guilty]', so there was no named power ability that came to mind. And it seemed simple enough that I thought I'd just figure it out as I went along. I mistakenly thought telling the thread about my role would create a case of WIFOM that, at best, would just distract everyone from finding real scum. Just like it is now.

So really, if you guys mis-chop me and we lose the game, it's my fault for not knowing how to play miller.

I'm sorry I didn't research it. It seemed simple, but I was just wrong in my approach.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:33 pm(snip)

What from your text helped the village, can you link them?

I'm afraid I don't know what you're asking here. What do you mean?

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:41 pm If Odd is scum that means he is enjoying tormenting villagers, because imo if he was Gerhard mafia he wouldn't let me have any peek and he would kill me long ago. Bo played well the first days and had a good image in the game since then, plus the distance JPIC made in his posts made harder to understand Bo is scum.
I don't think everyone would accept to chop Bo without the peek. And i had the peek with Odd's help, at least this is my impression.

For one, I think Odd is a godfather. KC Mafia had a godfather (Marmot), and neither Bo nor JPIC are godfathers for Gerhardt. It makes sense balance-wise that the last scum would be a godfather, and thereby green-checked. And of course he's enjoying tormenting villagers. That's the fun part of playing scum. Especially if you're a godfather with busdriving abilities.

And, one thing I can tell you about the only time I ever won as scum: I didn't hesitate a single second to send my scummates to the gallows. Like I've said before, it bought me town points. That's what I think Odd did by not helping to clear Bo.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Apr 29, 2021 3:42 pm Why Odd and not Esooa for eg, @Strawhenge?

An un-choppable scum is OP and I would never play mafia on The Syndicate again if that were true. She might be 3P, but I highly doubt that she's Gerhardt.

[VOTE: Odd] aubergine
Talk to me my friend

@Hally @Oddmerta

I know it's been a long and exhausting game, y'all, but we only have 2.5 hours left, then it's over. At least come in and give your thoughts. I'd hate for this monthlong mafiathon to end on a whimper.

I don't really think it's odd

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:19 pm I don't really think it's odd

Why?

my vote doesn’t count today

i can’t explain why

but that’s part of why i wanted to sleep

if esooa’s vote also doesn’t count it’s effectively just odd/straw/michelle deciding today

which means if we want to lunch someone michelle basically has to decide herself between odd and straw

either that or we try to kill esooa again

and then next day my vote will count again

Where is Odd?

I hate this game.

@Hally
@Esooa
@Strawhenge
@Oddmerta

Where are you?

3 mins before Eod and no one is here.

I'm here. I just feel like I have nothing more to add to my current thoughts, so I'm just biting my nails waiting for EOD.

I should let my vote, or vote Esooa, that means RNG between them

Ok, idk anymore

If i was wrong, i am sorry.

D9 -

Trooper Milch

[Active] - Each night, Trooper Milch may target two players and set up a trap by switching their rooms. Abilities targeting one will instead affect the other, and vice-versa.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to Town

What the fuck, seriously?

So it's either supertown Hally, supertown Michelle, or unchoppable Esooa?! The fuck kind of choice is that?!

Or is you indeed

If it's either Hally or Michelle, congratulations on an amazing scum game.

Don't.

It's you and i didn't trust him because he didn't answer.

At least now we know it's just one wolf left, because otherwise game would end

It sure as hell isn't me. I wish I had the ability to prove it to you, but all I have is a typewriter.

I hate myself for paranoia

I know how that feels. I used to feel it every time I survived this long in a game.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:12 pm It sure as hell isn't me. I wish I had the ability to prove it to you, but all I have is a typewriter.

You didn't proove me any usefulness of your ability.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:09 pm If it's either Hally or Michelle, congratulations on an amazing scum game.

Why not congratulations for Esooa? I am curious

Yeah, because it's not really useful. I'll give you a typewriter tonight, and you can see if you can make use of it.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:14 pm

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:09 pm If it's either Hally or Michelle, congratulations on an amazing scum game.

Why not congratulations for Esooa? I am curious

Because being an unchoppable scum wouldn't take any work. You and Hally, if one of you are scum, both put in an incredible amount of work.

I think you should check Hally tonight. I know it'd be insane if there was a v/w mason team, but I think we should be sure.

Please kill me overnight, i am busy this weekend, is Easter for me and i can't play.
I was busy all this week because of this, the week before Easter is a nightmare at job and very tiresome irl. This is the reason i didn't Iso and I waited only an answer, any answer, from Odd.

Now is impossible to win if Esooa really doesn't have a vote.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:16 pm I think you should check Hally tonight. I know it'd be insane if there was a v/w mason team, but I think we should be sure.

No matter who is the last wolf it would be insane to let me alive so my check doesn't count

Either way, it's you.

lol this game

Straw, it's you for reasons i will write down in the morning, is a general pattern of wolfy activity, but is 1 am and I don't have now the mood to explain you what wolfy things you did.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:23 pmlol this game

I just checked you have 1500 posts, when on Earth did you post that much?

@Esooa how come did you know is not Odd?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:24 pm Straw, it's you for reasons i will write down in the morning, is a general pattern of wolfy activity, but is 1 am and I don't have now the mood to explain you what wolfy things you did.

You get some rest, don't tire yourself out for the likes of this game.

But I do honestly look forward to your reasons why I'm a wolf. It'll be something to liven up discussion, at least, because I'm 100% not a wolf.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:24 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:23 pmlol this game

I just checked you have 1500 posts, when on Earth did you post that much?

the first few days when i actually had the will to carry on

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:26 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:24 pm Straw, it's you for reasons i will write down in the morning, is a general pattern of wolfy activity, but is 1 am and I don't have now the mood to explain you what wolfy things you did.

You get some rest, don't tire yourself out for the likes of this game.

But I do honestly look forward to your reasons why I'm a wolf. It'll be something to liven up discussion, at least, because I'm 100% not a wolf.

You couldn't town case yourself, that's one of them.
Wolves don't have the ability to explain why are they villagers because they are not.
No matter what villa game I am playing, I know in every single moment of the game what I did villagery and I can explain why am I villager with quotes and votes. In other words, with facts.
Especially in day 7 of the game

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:29 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:24 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:23 pmlol this game

I just checked you have 1500 posts, when on Earth did you post that much?

the first few days when i actually had the will to carry on

What took your will away from you?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:33 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:29 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:24 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:23 pmlol this game

I just checked you have 1500 posts, when on Earth did you post that much?

the first few days when i actually had the will to carry on

What took your will away from you?

this game being ridiculously long and impossible to solve

The second is your lack of real scum hunting Straw, you only defended yourself and didn't really try to find scum.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:33 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:33 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:29 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:24 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:23 pmlol this game

I just checked you have 1500 posts, when on Earth did you post that much?

the first few days when i actually had the will to carry on

What took your will away from you?

this game being ridiculously long and impossible to solve

There is never such thing as impossible to solve.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:31 pm(snip)
You couldn't town case yourself, that's one of them.
Wolves don't have the ability to explain why are they villagers because they are not.
No matter what villa game I am playing, I know in every single moment of the game what I did villagery and I can explain why am I villager with quotes and votes. In other words, with facts.
Especially in day 7 of the game

I did though. Maybe you and I have different definitions of town-casing oneself. I don't really know how to do that other than what I wrote in that post, and, 'Look at my tone and how towny it is.'

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:35 pm The second is your lack of real scum hunting Straw, you only defended yourself and didn't really try to find scum.

I wrote up ISOs on several people, have been asking people about posts they made, what they thought of certain players, etc. Again, maybe we have different definitions of scumhunting, but I feel like I have been.

Ever since my red-check, yeah, I've been defending myself because there was something to defend. And if I didn't engage enough with Esooa and Oddmerta, it's because they've both seemed disinterested in engaging in conversation. Esooa even got cross with me and told me to stop asking her questions, so I did.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:50 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:31 pm(snip)
You couldn't town case yourself, that's one of them.
Wolves don't have the ability to explain why are they villagers because they are not.
No matter what villa game I am playing, I know in every single moment of the game what I did villagery and I can explain why am I villager with quotes and votes. In other words, with facts.
Especially in day 7 of the game

I did though. Maybe you and I have different definitions of town-casing oneself. I don't really know how to do that other than what I wrote in that post, and, 'Look at my tone and how towny it is.'

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 6:35 pm The second is your lack of real scum hunting Straw, you only defended yourself and didn't really try to find scum.

I wrote up ISOs on several people, have been asking people about posts they made, what they thought of certain players, etc. Again, maybe we have different definitions of scumhunting, but I feel like I have been.

I can have a pretty good tone as scum myself, you know? If you don't have something else, just tone so late in the game is not enough.

Did you Iso a flipped scum to search for interactions with living players?