Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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And who do you think it should be used on?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:24 pm But yes, I absolutely recommend using it asap Porscha. I doubt it'll affect the flow of the game but more info = good
This is how I interpreted itEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm By "NK won't be detected" it might mean "Mafia won't show unless they have a killing role that isn't their mafia faction nk."
I could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
No, because this is a potential alignment peek on FalconGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
No that won't do anything, he is a KP regardless of alignmentPorscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmI could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
I have a strong suspicion that Sig will show "Yes" regardless of alignment here.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmI could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
You super sure on not doing it with sig? We are super sure he didnt carry the maf nk onto golden and get it redirected? Golden said he thinks sig did make the hero shot, but idkParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmNo, because this is a potential alignment peek on FalconGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
There are no mafia vigs left. If they are - it's sig. But he is just a vig regardless of alignment
I mean, im not one that asks anyone whom should i target but since you are asking, i'd pick the shy ones. If they are not being pushed even though they contributed very little, it may be for something.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmI could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
I guess...EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:28 pmI have a strong suspicion that Sig will show "Yes" regardless of alignment here.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmI could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
Why are they irrelevant?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pm Wilgy/Sloonei is irrelevant imo.
Rondo would be my pick but the world is your oyster.
Falcon should be okay too depending on how it works.
Nutella died the same night. Nutella was at least one of the mafia KP. There is just no world where sig is Vanilla Goon, unless I'm missing somethingPorscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pmYou super sure on not doing it with sig? We are super sure he didnt carry the maf nk onto golden and get it redirected? Golden said he thinks sig did make the hero shot, but idkParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmNo, because this is a potential alignment peek on FalconGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
There are no mafia vigs left. If they are - it's sig. But he is just a vig regardless of alignment
Haha yeah. I do already have my own thoughts... but it's good to see what people say to see if they seem weird about itGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pmI mean, im not one that asks anyone whom should i target but since you are asking, i'd pick the shy ones. If they are not being pushed even though they contributed very little, it may be for something.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmI could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
Claimed parity check.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:30 pmWhy are they irrelevant?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pm Wilgy/Sloonei is irrelevant imo.
Rondo would be my pick but the world is your oyster.
Falcon should be okay too depending on how it works.
And? Could be t/t or w/w no?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:31 pmClaimed parity check.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:30 pmWhy are they irrelevant?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pm Wilgy/Sloonei is irrelevant imo.
Rondo would be my pick but the world is your oyster.
Falcon should be okay too depending on how it works.
Guillo, not sure if you've caught up on the mech, but we know that Falcon is either Kiwi VT (maybe american town but i doubt it) or Vanilla Soup Mafia due to Scotty's peek. This peek is just perfect for him, assuming Kiwi VT comes up as a killing roleGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pmI mean, im not one that asks anyone whom should i target but since you are asking, i'd pick the shy ones. If they are not being pushed even though they contributed very little, it may be for something.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmI could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
You dont want me to verify you?Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pmI mean, im not one that asks anyone whom should i target but since you are asking, i'd pick the shy ones. If they are not being pushed even though they contributed very little, it may be for something.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmI could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
Sure, but im a killer, it's nothing new.
This is definitely a thought I like.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:32 pmGuillo, not sure if you've caught up on the mech, but we know that Falcon is either Kiwi VT (maybe american town but i doubt it) or Vanilla Soup Mafia due to Scotty's peek. This peek is just perfect for him, assuming Kiwi VT comes up as a killing roleGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pmI mean, im not one that asks anyone whom should i target but since you are asking, i'd pick the shy ones. If they are not being pushed even though they contributed very little, it may be for something.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmI could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
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Yeah but we get another Parity today and their alignments will come clear in time without this check on em.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:32 pmAnd? Could be t/t or w/w no?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:31 pmClaimed parity check.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:30 pmWhy are they irrelevant?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pm Wilgy/Sloonei is irrelevant imo.
Rondo would be my pick but the world is your oyster.
Falcon should be okay too depending on how it works.
Oh i see, then yes, i can see the merit for that checkParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:32 pmGuillo, not sure if you've caught up on the mech, but we know that Falcon is either Kiwi VT (maybe american town but i doubt it) or Vanilla Soup Mafia due to Scotty's peek. This peek is just perfect for him, assuming Kiwi VT comes up as a killing roleGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pmI mean, im not one that asks anyone whom should i target but since you are asking, i'd pick the shy ones. If they are not being pushed even though they contributed very little, it may be for something.Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:27 pmI could always verify sig tooGuillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:26 pm No. Porscha, peek either Wilgy or Sloonei, the ines we got less info on.
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If not Falcon i'd still check one of sloonei/Wilgy, if they are both town then now scum are forced to kill to inno slankers instead of active town and if they are scum, well.. fiesta time!EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:34 pmYeah but we get another Parity today and their alignments will come clear in time without this check on em.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:32 pmAnd? Could be t/t or w/w no?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:31 pmClaimed parity check.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:30 pmWhy are they irrelevant?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pm Wilgy/Sloonei is irrelevant imo.
Rondo would be my pick but the world is your oyster.
Falcon should be okay too depending on how it works.
Yeah I don't really have any defence other than I figured since svs is 3p she isn't mafia and scotty was too chill with everything that has been going on. I can also point out all the people willing to defend me got souped yesterday. No way I would leave myself to face the Cyclops alone and possibly die.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:26 pm RONDO is very likely mafia
Unfortunately I can't really explain it that well. Every game I play with Rondo, I townread him immediately. He is extremely obvious to me, as town. In this game, from the very start - every post of his I read is like nails on chalkboard to me. In terms of scummyness. It's just screeching in my ears.
1) Mafia had a soup kill (probably, unless that was a day kill ability just worded as a soup kill to troll us)
If so, him being a wolf and "buying time" to "self resolve" as he oh so insisted makes sense as a Soup Mafia strategy. He was on the chopping block on Day 3. He asked for a pass to D4, when the soup kill occurred. It could be a coincidence but it could not be
2) He was an "infiltrator" so to speak in the DnD group. He was not part of it initially. After they lost Le Petit, they asked for a replacement (part of their role). They were given Rondo, they could not choose. Kate and Urist were the two kills yesterday, the last remaining people of the initial DnD group. Rondo is the infiltrator there, the last surviving member. If that thing wasn't a soup kill, but a day kill flavored as one - Rondo could be the perpetrator
3) Rondo has not buried or shot any wolves. He has no meaningful interactions with wolves imo. When it was him versus Seanzie on Day 2, Seanzie rolled over and died. He was not fighting back, at least in my opinion.
Look at this post. Imagine Seanzie's voice saying it out loud. It just sounds deadpan / no energy. He wasn't putting up a fight.
4) Him being all over the place and voting town, saying stuff like we're mafia, participating in the Scotty cfd, just all over the place, it's just not good. It's just too much anti-town stuff. While I perceive town!rondo as a very chaotic player, I also can see that he has some strategy when he does his stuff. I see no town strategy in his gameplay this game, he is just doing scummy and suspicious stuff over and over
I think Rondo is very likely Mafia
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Actually I called an audible first if I remember correctly. We just happened to be posting the same pivot at the same time.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 8:30 pm The Scotty counterwagon was my idea. I wanted to see what happened when people were confronted with an opportunity to jump off the easy wagon on to a different one.
I think it behooves wolves to keep svs on the table so they’ll do exactly what sig just proposed and say that today we should resolve the 3p instead of wolf hunting. I disagree (except if people are suggesting svs is wolf and lied, that I’m open to).
Falcon, ender and dizzy were the other names on scotty whi were already in my PoE. I’ll be surprised if there’s no wolves there.
I probably should have jumped back on svs just before pill closed but I didn’t for personal reasons… I felt bad about the idea of asking her if she wanted another day then going back on that.
We get another parity today?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:34 pmYeah but we get another Parity today and their alignments will come clear in time without this check on em.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:32 pmAnd? Could be t/t or w/w no?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:31 pmClaimed parity check.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:30 pmWhy are they irrelevant?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:29 pm Wilgy/Sloonei is irrelevant imo.
Rondo would be my pick but the world is your oyster.
Falcon should be okay too depending on how it works.
Rondo has info he isnt sharing and that's why he stopped playing the gameParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:57 pm @RondoDimBuckle any new mech info / reports that you can give us?
If you do - why not start with that immediately?
If you don't - why not?
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weird to say I have stopped playing when I am here and posting. Weird thing to assume I have info. TMI?Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:10 pmRondo has info he isnt sharing and that's why he stopped playing the gameParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:57 pm @RondoDimBuckle any new mech info / reports that you can give us?
If you do - why not start with that immediately?
If you don't - why not?
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Yeah, it's less than ideal.
ignoring this postParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:57 pm @RondoDimBuckle any new mech info / reports that you can give us?
If you do - why not start with that immediately?
If you don't - why not?
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Implying he doesn't have info, and yet ignoring my post earlier, while lethargically making a half-baked push on town Porscha that made me fall asleep from boredomRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:54 pmweird to say I have stopped playing when I am here and posting. Weird thing to assume I have info. TMI?Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:10 pmRondo has info he isnt sharing and that's why he stopped playing the gameParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:57 pm @RondoDimBuckle any new mech info / reports that you can give us?
If you do - why not start with that immediately?
If you don't - why not?
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And finally he makes this ridiculous post, considering I was consensus 3p read day 1 and everyone thought I'm just an NPC that's here to troll, including all the flipped dead wolvesRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:04 pm lol tutuu has been on me since day 1 and doesnt think I wouldnt have had her night killed
What Maf role would Porscha possibly have that she had TMI that you gained info during the night phase?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:54 pmweird to say I have stopped playing when I am here and posting. Weird thing to assume I have info. TMI?Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:10 pmRondo has info he isnt sharing and that's why he stopped playing the gameParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:57 pm @RondoDimBuckle any new mech info / reports that you can give us?
If you do - why not start with that immediately?
If you don't - why not?
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Its funny how I have given up by ignoring a post but here I am talking in thread. tutuu I am revoking your ability to read me.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:10 pm Dizzy has at least put up some kind of defense against my accusations.
Rondo has completely given up. He's doing stuff such as:
ignoring this postParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:57 pm @RondoDimBuckle any new mech info / reports that you can give us?
If you do - why not start with that immediately?
If you don't - why not?
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Implying he doesn't have info, and yet ignoring my post earlier, while lethargically making a half-baked push on town Porscha that made me fall asleep from boredomRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:54 pmweird to say I have stopped playing when I am here and posting. Weird thing to assume I have info. TMI?Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:10 pmRondo has info he isnt sharing and that's why he stopped playing the gameParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:57 pm @RondoDimBuckle any new mech info / reports that you can give us?
If you do - why not start with that immediately?
If you don't - why not?
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He's also keeping his options open - he is gauging what his next lie will be about his night actions
And finally he makes this ridiculous post, considering I was consensus 3p read day 1 and everyone thought I'm just an NPC that's here to troll, including all the flipped dead wolvesRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:04 pm lol tutuu has been on me since day 1 and doesnt think I wouldnt have had her night killed
Let's chop/shoot Rondo before Dizzy imo
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any information outed by my fellow DNDers is likely to be not fully correct since I lied to them as much as I lied to main thread which is why I am not part of the soup kill when Urist decided to out everything into threadfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:10 pmWhat Maf role would Porscha possibly have that she had TMI that you gained info during the night phase?RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:54 pmweird to say I have stopped playing when I am here and posting. Weird thing to assume I have info. TMI?Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:10 pmRondo has info he isnt sharing and that's why he stopped playing the gameParty Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:57 pm @RondoDimBuckle any new mech info / reports that you can give us?
If you do - why not start with that immediately?
If you don't - why not?
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I think she's probably referring to your earlier claims re: Urist etc
