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Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:45 pm
by Epignosis
Marmot wrote:Fair enough.
thellama73 wrote:
notsawyer540 wrote:We would need llama, dfaraday, or floyd to change their vote.
If Epi and I both change our votes, you would still need at least one more.
I'm inferring from this post that llama's considering changing his vote in an attempt to save notsawyer.
That could only mean that thellama73's plan was to throw notsawyer under the bus until it became possible to save him.

I don't suspect notsawyer though, so I don't believe that's what is transpiring.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:47 pm
by notsawyer540
Marmot wrote:I'm inferring from this post that llama's considering changing his vote in an attempt to save notsawyer.
That's what I inferred from it too. However, even if you, llama, and Epi were to vote for Quin, I would still get lynched. Unless I punched things in wrong on the calculator, there are only a few ways I live at this point:

1. Mac changes his vote to Quin.
2. Either Dfaraday or Floyd change their vote to Quin.
3. Everyone voting for Quin (as well as you, llama, and Epi) piles on Floyd instead

I would rather lynch llama than quin, but like Epi said, there's just not enough time.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:51 pm
by Epignosis
Present company: Comment on this please.
Long Con wrote:Long Con
thellama73
MacDougall
Epignosis
notsawyer540
Dfaraday
TheFloyd73
Marmot
DrWilgy
Quin

This is a basic rainbow that I hastily constructed. I don't even know if it's exactly how I feel.
Long Con wrote:6. Where you stand on thellama73 and why.
I'm cool with Llama now for reasons I won't really get into.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:00 pm
by notsawyer540
I didn't see that. What I gather is either LC and llama are both civ and LC found out about llama's alignment because of some game mechanic we're not aware of, or they both have btsc and LC was trying to take some of the heat off llama. Do you see any other explanations?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:05 pm
by Epignosis
notsawyer540 wrote:I didn't see that. What I gather is either LC and llama are both civ and LC found out about llama's alignment because of some game mechanic we're not aware of, or they both have btsc and LC was trying to take some of the heat off llama. Do you see any other explanations?
Having found that, I take from it this:

thellama73 and Long Con are both civilians. There is one power role left, and nobody went HAM against LC or thellama73 after he made this declaration. To me, that is evidence in their favor.

If Long Con is bad, then someone is asleep at the wheel.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:06 pm
by Epignosis
And MM evidently suspects both LC and thellama73.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:09 pm
by thellama73
I'm just glad Long Con came to his senses.

And Metalmars89, I commented earlier thta I am willing to lynch Quin, Wilgy, and Sawyer. Epi seems very unhappy with the Sawyer lynch, and I am willing to take thta into consideration because I trust him this game, but I distrust sawyer and am happy to see him lynched as well.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:12 pm
by Epignosis
If you remove notsawyer, LC, llama, and me from consideration, you've removed 40% of the suspect pool and can proceed accordingly.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:40 pm
by Epignosis
Less than an hour to go. I am disappointed that people chose to drop weighty votes on someone without coming back and discussing / reconsidering those votes.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:41 pm
by Epignosis
Reposting.
G-Man wrote:Since speculation over vote weight has occurred, I'd like to clear things up for you. At the end of Night 3, all living player's post counts were recorded. Here are the percentages for the 10 of you:
Epignosis = 22.93%
Marmot = 12.61%
Long Con = 12.24%
DrWilgy = 11.88%
Llama = 11.64%
Quin = 11.16%
MacDougall = 8.88%
notsawyer540 = 5.88%
Dfaraday = 2.04%
Floyd = 0.72%
There are 10 votes between you all, so those 10 votes were broken up proportionally according to the percentages above and reallocated in reverse order. (i.e. Floyd's vote is worth Epi's post-count percentages multiplied by 10, and so on)
Epignosis = 0.0720 votes
Marmot = 0.2041 votes
Long Con = 0.5882 votes
DrWilgy = 0.8884 votes
Llama = 1.1164 votes
Quin = 1.1645 votes
MacDougall = 1.1885 votes
notsawyer540 = 1.2245 votes
Dfaraday = 1.2605 votes
Floyd = 2.2929 votes

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:44 pm
by DrWilgy
Epignosis wrote:Less than an hour to go. I am disappointed that people chose to drop weighty votes on someone without coming back and discussing / reconsidering those votes.
:srsnod:

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:45 pm
by Epignosis
Quin + DF + Floyd = 4.7172

Epi + MM + LC + notsawyer + Wilgy + thellama73 = 4.0936

Shit.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:47 pm
by notsawyer540
Epignosis wrote:Less than an hour to go. I am disappointed that people chose to drop weighty votes on someone without coming back and discussing / reconsidering those votes.
Same here. :(

Maybe I have enough Hillary points to buy my way out. They have to be good for something! Hillary points should count as free speech, and I'll take it all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to!

Linki: That's what I was saying when I said Mac, DF, or Floyd would have to change votes.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:48 pm
by S~V~S
Epignosis wrote:Reposting.
G-Man wrote:Since speculation over vote weight has occurred, I'd like to clear things up for you. At the end of Night 3, all living player's post counts were recorded. Here are the percentages for the 10 of you:
Epignosis = 22.93%
Marmot = 12.61%
Long Con = 12.24%
DrWilgy = 11.88%
Llama = 11.64%
Quin = 11.16%
MacDougall = 8.88%
notsawyer540 = 5.88%
Dfaraday = 2.04%
Floyd = 0.72%
There are 10 votes between you all, so those 10 votes were broken up proportionally according to the percentages above and reallocated in reverse order. (i.e. Floyd's vote is worth Epi's post-count percentages multiplied by 10, and so on)
Epignosis = 0.0720 votes
Marmot = 0.2041 votes
Long Con = 0.5882 votes
DrWilgy = 0.8884 votes
Llama = 1.1164 votes
Quin = 1.1645 votes
MacDougall = 1.1885 votes
notsawyer540 = 1.2245 votes
Dfaraday = 1.2605 votes
Floyd = 2.2929 votes
Wow. Being dead is not so bad after all.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:52 pm
by Epignosis
Quin! Have 0.0720 more votes. :meany:

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:53 pm
by G-Man
notsawyer540 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Less than an hour to go. I am disappointed that people chose to drop weighty votes on someone without coming back and discussing / reconsidering those votes.
Same here. :(

Maybe I have enough Hillary points to buy my way out. They have to be good for something! Hillary points should count as free speech, and I'll take it all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to!

Linki: That's what I was saying when I said Mac, DF, or Floyd would have to change votes.
Hillary Points have a very specific purpose but they do not count as free speech, nor do they buy your way out of a lynch.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:55 pm
by notsawyer540
G-Man wrote:Hillary Points have a very specific purpose but they do not count as free speech, nor do they buy your way out of a lynch.
Save that argument for 4/9 of the Supreme Court! :meany:

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:56 pm
by thellama73
I'm still around if people want to discuss things.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:59 pm
by Epignosis
I have to drive home and stop on the way, so this is likely it for me.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:02 pm
by thellama73
Well, I'll go ahead and change my vote too, I guess. It likely won't make a difference, but all the cool kids are doing it, and I want to be cool.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:06 pm
by G-Man
Current vote tallies:

notsawyer: 4.7179
Quin: 3.8895
Floyd: 1.1885
Long Con: 0.2041

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:07 pm
by notsawyer540
Holding out hope for Faraday, Floyd, or Mac. Whichever one saves me will gain major civ points in my book.

Marmot's vote won't be enough to save me even if he changes to Quin

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:07 pm
by notsawyer540
But would still be appreciated.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:15 pm
by MacDougall
Cash me outside how bow dah

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:18 pm
by MacDougall
Well how bow dah?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:21 pm
by notsawyer540
Thanks Mac! I owe you one.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:25 pm
by MacDougall
Hmmm why are you being saved again?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:26 pm
by notsawyer540
Because I'm civ and a bunch people piled votes on me without explaining them

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:26 pm
by MacDougall
notsawyer540 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I want to know the following from everybody:

1. Where you stand on notsawyer and why.

2. Where you stand on Marmot and why.

3. Where you stand on Floyd and why.

4. Where you stand on DFaraday and why.

5. Where you stand on Quin and why.

6. Where you stand on thellama73 and why.

7. Where you stand on Long Con and why.

You get the idea. If I left you out, it wasn't personal.

Start talking. Tell me why you're good. Tell me why others are bad. Go.
1. notsawyer - Vanilla town read to me. The back and forth stuff with Epi didn't gain him any favor. :p He has a bad habit of sinking his teeth in like a pitbull and not letting go, but he's been advocating lynching baddies and showing good initiative.

2. Marmot - Despite the fact that he has way more posts than me, I never really seem to notice them. That could something about the content of his posts, but it could also say something about my attention span. i'll have to search his posts in topic and give them a quick read.

3. Floyd - 7 posts by day 4 and he controls the vote. He's going to kill me today, and when I flip civ he's going to have to face some questions he won't be around to answer. Seems a bit shifty to me, but not enough to where I would vote for him.

4. Dfaraday - He tried to talk some sense into me vis a vis Epi:
Dfaraday wrote: Clearly enough people agreed with him to not lynch Jack right away, so this feels like you're trying to shift the blame onto Epi.
It just took me a long drive to start thinking about it. The only other things I know about him are that he randomized a vote for me on day 1 and he almost got lynched on day 1 or 2.

5. Quin - Called me out from the get-go for being myself and then sunk into the shadows for a while after he lost that argument, only to reemerge when it was clear I would be up for lynch. Definitely sets off alarm bells. If you go back to Parks and Rec mafia and look at Leslie Knope's posts, I made a lot of posts like the one Quin went after in this game. I also got lynched on day 4 and flipped civ. :haha: Quin is definitely on my list.

6. llama - Not feeling too great about this one either. In my limited experience, I've found that the second person to jump on something is usually more likely to be the bad one, and llama did that when Quin called me out. Llama has also not been contributing very much and hasn't provided anything new to the hunt. Slightly worse than Quin imo.

7. LC - I called him out before and he ignored it, which is never a good sign, but he seems to be patient and non-opportunistic. I think he knows more than he lets on, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Leaning civ on him.

8. Epi - I've warmed a bit to Epi, but not enough to say civ read. I went on the attack recently because I was convinced I was right about Epi, but looking back I just got tunnel vision. Some of my points still stand and I don't believe the Eloh argument. Just because you haven't done something before doesn't mean you won't do it now.

9. Wilgy - Was my primary suspect before the whole thing with Epi. Still not sure on him. He wasn't hesitant to correct me on his involvement with the lynching of SVS, but he also tried to correct me on the argument about whether or not to lynch Jack and when I went back to look at the posts, he was wrong--but it was really just splitting hairs. Mostly neutral on him with a slight baddie lean.

10. Mac - My top suspect. Day 1 he voted for me without explanation right when the vote was going to end, despite having voiced suspicion for Jack. Then when Jack was revealed, Mac tried to get himself a known-civ status until people shut that down. If he was so good that he tone-read Jack on day 1, why didn't he vote that way? I think he was mafia throwing out an accusation against another person so that when that person flipped bad he could go back and say he called it on day 1. Mac will be getting my vote today.

If I missed anyone, please let me know. And if there's anything I haven't addressed, let me know that too. I was hoping to do more here, but I have a paper and a bunch of reading that need done and I really don't have time to do digging.

My rainbow list:

Mac
Llama
Quin
Floyd
Epi
Wilgy
Dfaraday
Marmot

LC
notsawyer
Your top!?

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:29 pm
by MacDougall
I dunno why I am saving you but here we are...

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:33 pm
by notsawyer540
MacDougall wrote:Your top!?
Well not any more. :keys:

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:34 pm
by MacDougall
Your suspicion of me is absurd btw. I voted for Jack and only changed to you well after his lynch was off the table. If I was just distancing for credit I wouldn't have changed my vote.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:40 pm
by DrWilgy
Was Sawyer actually saved here?

Neat.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:41 pm
by Long Con
notsawyer540 wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Your top!?
Well not any more. :keys:
:haha: :haha: :haha:

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:42 pm
by MacDougall
DrWilgy wrote:Was Sawyer actually saved here?

Neat.
Yes. I am hero.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:52 pm
by G-Man
EVERY DECISION THAT THEY TAKE HAS ENORMOUS CONSEQUENCES
(TUESDAY, JANUARY 24, 2017)
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This is a Fox News alert. I'm Shepard Smith.

In a shocking turn of events, longtime Clinton ally and strategist Sidney Blumenthal was hospitalized today in an apparent suicide attempt when FBI agents entered the White House. Details are still coming in but Fox News sources indicate that the FBI came to the White House specifically to take Mr. Blumenthal into custody.

Blumenthal, a was a senior advisor to President Bill Clinton and served in an unofficial advisory capacity to President Hillary Clinton's campaign last Fall. After President Clinton's victory over Texas Senator Ted Cruz, Blumenthal was named as a Counselor to the President.

According to sources inside the White House, Mr. Blumenthal allegedly tried to slash his own throat in a second-floor bathroom as FBI agents closed in. He was taken away by ambulance but his present location is being kept secret. Stay tuned for more Fox News alerts as we learn more about Mr. Blumenthal's condition and why the FBI sought him out.


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Quin has been lynched. He was...
Spoiler: show
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SIDNEY BLUMENTHAL
Counselor to President Hillary Clinton, long-time Clinton strategist and confidant, and now Counselor to the President. Vanilla civvie.

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:56 pm
by DrWilgy
Neat

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:56 pm
by G-Man
I will post the vote tallies, poll pic, and a Hillary Points update after a Kindergarten registration meeting tonight. Sorry for the delay.

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:04 pm
by MacDougall
Whose idea was this?

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:08 pm
by Quin
wow rude

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:13 pm
by thellama73
Sorry Quin. I really thought you slipped in that one post.

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:36 pm
by Epignosis
If notsawyer is a civilian, as I believe, then that lynch was bad no matter what.

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:41 pm
by Marmot
Um, I meant to come back before the deadline, but I was distraced by things.

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:41 pm
by Marmot
Who did I vote for? I don't remember.

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:44 pm
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote:Whose idea was this?
Instant blame. New top suspect.

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:53 pm
by TheFloyd73
G-Man wrote:
Quin has been lynched. He was...
Spoiler: show
Image
SIDNEY BLUMENTHAL
Counselor to President Hillary Clinton, long-time Clinton strategist and confidant, and now Counselor to the President. Vanilla civvie.
:wall:
Long Con wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Whose idea was this?
Instant blame. New top suspect.
I second that.

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:16 pm
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Whose idea was this?
Instant blame. New top suspect.
It'd be sweet if you used your head instead of your pooping ass to play Mafia. What in the world kind of shit would my end of game play be as a Mafia player?

If I am a Mafia player, the only possible justification for what I did was to save Notsawyer. Otherwise I as a Mafia player just stay away from the thread for the last 20 minutes.

Seriously mate you havin a fucken lend or whaT?

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:17 pm
by MacDougall
TheFloyd73 wrote:
G-Man wrote:
Quin has been lynched. He was...
Spoiler: show
Image
SIDNEY BLUMENTHAL
Counselor to President Hillary Clinton, long-time Clinton strategist and confidant, and now Counselor to the President. Vanilla civvie.
:wall:
Long Con wrote:
MacDougall wrote:Whose idea was this?
Instant blame. New top suspect.
I second that.
We should have lynched you like I wanted to, but people don't really listen to me in Mafia games.

Re: Day 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:18 pm
by MacDougall
Epignosis wrote:Present company: Comment on this please.
Long Con wrote:Long Con
thellama73
MacDougall
Epignosis
notsawyer540
Dfaraday
TheFloyd73
Marmot
DrWilgy
Quin

This is a basic rainbow that I hastily constructed. I don't even know if it's exactly how I feel.
Long Con wrote:6. Where you stand on thellama73 and why.
I'm cool with Llama now for reasons I won't really get into.
Long Con is arbitrarily assigning people colours because he likes the look of the post.

Re: Night 4- BLUE vs. RED

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 9:21 pm
by S~V~S
nothing would please me more than to perpetually sport a Hillary Points banner. It would make being deaded so pathetically worth it.