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Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:30 pm
by Golden
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:28 pm Uh I did not mean to make that font giant...
That's what they all say...

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:37 pm
by colonialbob
sprityo wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:17 pm
colonialbob wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:04 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion
youre right ive lost some of my bravado and vigor from the early game
Losing so many teammates got you down? :slick:
Yeah, you nailed it. Right on the head
Scumslip guys lets lynch Sprit next :biggrin:

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:37 pm
by Epignosis
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:28 pm Uh I did not mean to make that font giant...
:shifty:

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:45 pm
by sprityo
colonialbob wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:37 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:17 pm
colonialbob wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:04 pm
sprityo wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:12 pm sprityo claimed that he had a cool role early on and it seemed a little jarring? i didn't really understand the benefit of making such a claim, he also seems to have had more of a thread presence back then. did he die? he's on a watch lost for the remainder of my excursion
youre right ive lost some of my bravado and vigor from the early game
Losing so many teammates got you down? :slick:
Yeah, you nailed it. Right on the head
Scumslip guys lets lynch Sprit next :biggrin:
[VOTE: Sprityo] aubergine

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:47 pm
by DharmaHelper
I was terrified I would be wrong.
Probably because your case was based on meta. :P

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:55 pm
by Spacedaisy
No, because while I believed I was right, I would have looked like an idiot if I was wrong. But I wasn't so there.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:00 pm
by DharmaHelper
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:55 pm No, because while I believed I was right, I would have looked like an idiot if I was wrong. But I wasn't so there.
You don't so there me I so there you, so there.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 pm
by Epignosis
Anybody going to lose their shit NOW if I suggest we just start picking off those with little activity?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:07 pm
by DharmaHelper
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 pm Anybody going to lose their shit NOW if I suggest we just start picking off those with little activity?
First of all, how dare you.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:18 pm
by Dom
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 pm Anybody going to lose their shit NOW if I suggest we just start picking off those with little activity?
but why

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:24 pm
by Epignosis
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 pm Anybody going to lose their shit NOW if I suggest we just start picking off those with little activity?
but why
because

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:26 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:28 pm Uh I did not mean to make that font giant...
It looked pretty cool though.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:28 pm
by Sloonei
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 pm Anybody going to lose their shit NOW if I suggest we just start picking off those with little activity?
It's a worthy consideration.

Thoughts on SVS?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:29 pm
by Epignosis
Sloonei wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 pm Anybody going to lose their shit NOW if I suggest we just start picking off those with little activity?
It's a worthy consideration.

Thoughts on SVS?
I'm not inclined to lynch her. Down the road? Maybe. Not soon.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:34 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 pm Anybody going to lose their shit NOW if I suggest we just start picking off those with little activity?
No.

I feel like 1/3 of the players have done nothing but explain real life issues since tribes merged.

Like, I sympathize with your real life issues, but I also need to play the game.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:36 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Also PoE is strong and other than Sig and maybe Bob I dont suspect anyone.

Then again if those two are bad we could win the game by lynching them at this point.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:40 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Blooper
Boomslang
Kylemii
Sloonei
Daisy
Lorab
Sig

Either have low activity or keep claiming real life reasons for low activity.

Out of those Daisy I read as civ, Sig is bad and Sloonei actually contributed a lot despite his own claim that he's busy. I'm slightly suspicious of him. The rest are blanks.

Maybe add second life sprityo too.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:43 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
I just noticed everybody in that list is cerberus so I might be a little biased towards Pikachu (Ive been with them for longer so I had more time to read them). But Pikachu has been more active really.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:46 pm
by Dom
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:24 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 pm Anybody going to lose their shit NOW if I suggest we just start picking off those with little activity?
but why
because
i wasn't being rhetorical

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:51 pm
by Epignosis
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:46 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:24 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:04 pm Anybody going to lose their shit NOW if I suggest we just start picking off those with little activity?
but why
because
i wasn't being rhetorical
"but why" isn't really going to prompt a response from me.

If you want something from me, I appreciate counterarguments. If you have anything against what I am proposing, say so. If you agree with me, say so. Use words, Punctuation is appreciated also.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:51 pm
by Epignosis
Astute readers will note I fucked up with an errant comma there, where a period should be.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:53 pm
by Dom
Astute readers will note you fucked up more than a comma.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:54 pm
by Epignosis
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:53 pm Astute readers will note you fucked up more than a comma.
Astute readers won't give a shit because I'm owning mafia. Both of them.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 9

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:54 pm
by Sloonei
A totally egocentric case against SVS:

I've had two significant interactions with SVS in this game so far and in both of them I felt a touch of insincerity. First, shortly after the merge:
Spoiler: show
S~V~S wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:32 pm Sloonei

Why did you not want to tell your tribe what you learned at Pikachu? I found that perplexing.

Linki, I don't think they did, at least not together, But you do you, I'll do me.
S~V~S wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:18 am Speaking of which, curious again, Sloonei, how did you figure out the exact way the lynches were working like literally less than 5 minutes after the Day One lynch?
Sloonei wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:24 am
S~V~S wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:32 pm Sloonei

Why did you not want to tell your tribe what you learned at Pikachu? I found that perplexing.

Linki, I don't think they did, at least not together, But you do you, I'll do me.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. I shared every piece of mechanical information I could glean from my peak into your thread with my tribemates, and I answered as many questions about it as I could.

I did not share any personal reads in indvidual players which I had from my peak. I saw no benefit to doing that. The reads would mean nothing to peopke who could not also see the Pikachu thread, and the only players who I thought might have some form of access to it were mafia members whose teammates and BTSC partners were in Pikachu. I had no desire to provide information which I thought could only benefit the bad guys.

Hi I just got home and I see that we've all merged at long last. I'm uh not gonna have time for this tonight, unfortunately. I'll get busy in here tomorrow afternoon.
But if the bad guys had BTSC (and LCs comments about the lynches after he was lynched but before the post tells me they did) they already know what was going on. The people without info were the civvies, and you would not give it to them. The baddies on both sides already knew about your readings on Cerberus. Forewarned is forearmed, you were letting your people go into an eventual merge with no knowledge. Not sure what I think of this.
This seemed like the beginnings of an interrogation. I didn't fully see her angle (I shared plenty of information with my tribemates about what was going on in Pikachu), and SVS's gripe seemed to be that I didn't share any specific reads of players from my time over there. I countered that I saw no reason to do that. She persisted... for one brief post, and then never picked it back up. She also probed me about guessing at how the lynches were working. I got the impression from these posts that SVS was working toward something regarding yours truly, but then she completely abandoned it and never offered any clear thoughts (that I'm aware of) on me as a player in this game. I am left feeling like this may have been a hollow effort to build a case that never materialized.
S~V~S wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:28 am ebwop, also Sloonei has said I was his on;y bad read from when he watched us. But this is his first mention of it, or me (other than in passing about the Speed lynch) since the tribes merged.

Wonder why supaciv did not mention his one bad read in front of me? This was his one mention of it, when he got to Pikachu, but he did not say why and he did not bring it up again.
Then there was this post. I disagree with the categorization of me as a "supaciv" playa in this game. I'm just kind of twiddling my thumbs in the shadows. I also don't get the beef here again, if there even is beef. This feels similar to the previous interaction in that it seems like SVS is taking a single step toward presenting a suspicion against me, but then not proceeding further than that.

I can see this behavior as compatible with a civilian SVS, but I'd like her to talk more about me (my favorite subject) so I can get a better sense of where she's coming from here.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:56 pm
by Dom
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:54 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:53 pm Astute readers will note you fucked up more than a comma.
Astute readers won't give a shit because I'm owning mafia. Both of them.
Astute readers won't give a shit because you're a pedantic prick.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:56 pm
by Sloonei
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:53 pm Astute readers will note you fucked up more than a comma.
Are there any active players you would like to lynch?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:57 pm
by Sloonei
Epi, which inactive player(s) would you be inclined to lynch most immediately?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:58 pm
by LoRab
Excellent result.
Golden wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:30 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:28 pm Uh I did not mean to make that font giant...
That's what they all say...
Image

Heading to NJ tomorrow for Passover (the Jewish holiday with no bread, but lots of wine). Will be on sporadically, but should be able to keep up and participate. Just giving fair warning if there are chunks of time when I'm not posting.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:58 pm
by Epignosis
I think S~V~S is okay. I don't feel the need to lynch her. She has made me lose my mind, but she has gone nuts over theories and ideas that make no sense to me and are unnecessary if she's bad. For these reasons, I'm cool letting her do her thing.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:01 pm
by Sloonei
I'm still waiting for [mention]nijuukyugou[/mention] to tell me what she thinks of LoRab.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:06 pm
by Epignosis
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:56 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:54 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:53 pm Astute readers will note you fucked up more than a comma.
Astute readers won't give a shit because I'm owning mafia. Both of them.
Astute readers won't give a shit because you're a pedantic prick.
I don't understand how you demand respect but call me a prick. I've never called you a prick.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:07 pm
by Epignosis
Sloonei wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:57 pm Epi, which inactive player(s) would you be inclined to lynch most immediately?
Not saying. I want to see where others go.

Fly my pretties.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:08 pm
by Sloonei
Boomslang was the first suspect out of the gate on Day 1 in Cerberus but he's still on his first life. I wouldn't mind revisiting that case.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:10 pm
by Epignosis
I do want to look at who voted speedchuck last round but voted Wilgy this round.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 9

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm
by Sloonei
Boomslang wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:50 am Ok, reading this thing. I had reasons to vote Wilgy in the previous thread, and I encourage you to review my ISO there for said thoughts. In this thread, come on — he has nothing else, so comes in swinging at me.
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:33 pm
Scotty wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:29 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:26 pm Well well well... what do we have here.

I am now back from vacation. Someone catch me up.
Oh nice timing hai

Can you still view the other thread where everyone was holding you at gunpoint?

Maybe give us some reads right quick
Yeah I can. Can't say I read any of it though, only noticed y'all wanted to murder me to super death and back.

Shit, the only thing I'm still clinging to the thoughts I had on Boomslang a week ago which was a bad read.
I like Sloonei's responses to SVS's questions. He reads as reasonable and civ-oriented, and I feel better about him now that the tribes have combined and he's no longer going for the lynch just to be lynching.

Epi's analysis of my interactions with Marmot is spot-on. DH's obsession with speedchuck is not. SVS says it succinctly with "If nutellas role did not have that "cannot target a teammate" line, I would be right at the front of the pitchfork line, DH."

Obviously, I don't like anyone voting me for joining a train on a reasonable case. Cbob, that means you. Scotty has been supertown this whole game, can't get that mad at him for complaining about my low engagement recently. Trying to get caught up, but also going out of town again this weekend :/
This is the only post Boomslang has made in this thread that's not "yay game" or "vote wilgy". He's kind of all over the place with nothing strong. I wouldn't expect a player in his position to offer groundbreaking reads on everybody, but I can accuse this of being a light serving of player salad disguised as a catch-up.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm
by Dom
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:06 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:56 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:54 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:53 pm Astute readers will note you fucked up more than a comma.
Astute readers won't give a shit because I'm owning mafia. Both of them.
Astute readers won't give a shit because you're a pedantic prick.
I don't understand how you demand respect but call me a prick. I've never called you a prick.
You have outwardly questioned my intelligence, treated me like I'm stupid, dismissed me because you don't like the way I type, and condescended to me in a way you reserve for truly special people in your life.

And you gaslight me when I call you on your shit.

You have never given me respect, so I don't really feel like giving you much either.

I asked you why you feel lynching low posters is the best course of action. You said because. I noted I wasn't rhetorical. You made fun of me.

Yeah-- you have a shit ton of respect for me. It bleeds through your posts.


Just lynch me. I voted Speed last round and wilgy this round. I don't fit your low poster profile though. :rolleyes:

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:10 pm I do want to look at who voted speedchuck last round but voted Wilgy this round.
Everyone?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:13 pm
by Sloonei
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.
who do you want to lynch next?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:13 pm
by Dom
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.
No, it's not. It's on people who ask questions to type them in a way that makes Epignosis happy.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:14 pm
by Sloonei
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:13 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.
No, it's not. It's on people who ask questions to type them in a way that makes Epignosis happy.
Are there any active players that you would like to lynch?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:15 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Sloonei wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:13 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.
who do you want to lynch next?
Sig

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:16 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:13 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.
No, it's not. It's on people who ask questions to type them in a way that makes Epignosis happy.
Hey dude get a game facilitator plz. You and Epi for that matter.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:18 pm
by Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.
I don't see why. This isn't court.

I like throwing my ideas out there without reasons to see what other people will do with them.

Both mafia teams are fucked. I just want to end the game as soon as possible so I can enjoy spring break.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:20 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I ask that players please proceed with the game at hand and keep the continuing discussion relevant to that. I will address any conflicts needing addressed as I see fit as the facilitator, and it's best for everyone if it does not continue to be discussed here.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Day 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:22 pm
by Sloonei
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:49 am
sig wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:20 pm I like SVS, Epi, DDL

I don't like DH last minute switch from Wilgy to Speed with such little reasoning when he was so adamant on leaving Speed alive, very strange progression.

I would say the same about DDL, but outside of that he looks good.

Sloonie is looking very meh to me. He was a civ than mafia than back to civ and now he's leaning back into the mafia camp. I just can't decide what to think about him.

Bloober pinged me awhile back, but I can't remember why.
Lorab, Scotty, and Sprityo are all civ leans/independent.

I'll probably vote for Wilgy.

Didn't we figure out refrigerator has to be Quin? If that's the case do we believe that's a mafia role. It doesn't seem that civvie, however we have had curse roles that are held by a civ this past year.
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This post seems to represent your strongest indictment against sig, DDL. I don't disagree with it. Is there more?

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:23 pm
by Epignosis
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:06 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:56 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:54 pm
Dom wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:53 pm Astute readers will note you fucked up more than a comma.
Astute readers won't give a shit because I'm owning mafia. Both of them.
Astute readers won't give a shit because you're a pedantic prick.
I don't understand how you demand respect but call me a prick. I've never called you a prick.
You have outwardly questioned my intelligence, treated me like I'm stupid, dismissed me because you don't like the way I type, and condescended to me in a way you reserve for truly special people in your life.

And you gaslight me when I call you on your shit.

You have never given me respect, so I don't really feel like giving you much either.

I asked you why you feel lynching low posters is the best course of action. You said because. I noted I wasn't rhetorical. You made fun of me.

Yeah-- you have a shit ton of respect for me. It bleeds through your posts.


Just lynch me. I voted Speed last round and wilgy this round. I don't fit your low poster profile though. :rolleyes:
I don't know what "gaslighting" you is. I'm 34 years old.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:23 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:18 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.
I don't see why. This isn't court.

I like throwing my ideas out there without reasons to see what other people will do with them.

Both mafia teams are fucked. I just want to end the game as soon as possible so I can enjoy spring break.
You are technically right yet the fact that you dont want to explain your proposal makes it hard for others to take it seriously.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:24 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

Not really. I may ISO him later.

Re: Game of Champions 2017 - Night 11

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:27 pm
by Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:18 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:12 pm Epi the burden of proof is for the ones who want to lynch inactives to explain why.
I don't see why. This isn't court.

I like throwing my ideas out there without reasons to see what other people will do with them.

Both mafia teams are fucked. I just want to end the game as soon as possible so I can enjoy spring break.
You are technically right yet the fact that you dont want to explain your proposal makes it hard for others to take it seriously.
I don't see what there is to explain. Lynch people who aren't trying.