The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:30 pm Voting sig.

If he’s the townie of the two, he’s honest and he won’t die anyway.

If he’s the baddie, chances are time will make him more powerful and it’s a lie.

I see it as a probable win win in terms of testing his honesty, at least.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:40 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:38 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:36 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:30 pm Voting sig.

If he’s the townie of the two, he’s honest and he won’t die anyway.

Why does this confuse you?

If I'm town and I can't die, why lynch me? Or maybe I'm town and lying about it so I can't get lynched. Either way the idea of lynching me since I said I couldn't be lynched doesn't seem townie.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:45 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:40 pmEither way the idea of lynching me since I said I couldn't be lynched doesn't seem townie.

And this is complete bullshit

I called your bluff and now you're worried.

Glad I called it.

I think there's a decent chance you are a bad indie who gains in power over time, and you're trying to delay being lynched for some reason. You've made claims of being indestructible and said you weren't worried about your campaign putting a target on your back for that reason. You said you weren't worried about being lynched because you won't be lynched. But I can smell the fear on your breath from here.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:15 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:30 pm Voting sig.

If he’s the townie of the two, he’s honest and he won’t die anyway.

If he’s the baddie, chances are time will make him more powerful and it’s a lie.

I see it as a probable win win in terms of testing his honesty, at least.

This seems logical but under the surface he is asking to be lynched on day 3 instead of today which means he's worried about being lynched today which doesn't jive with his claims of being able to survive today.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:17 pm Sig, if you’re not scum, you should make a more substantive case against who is. Just offering up reads isn’t persuasive.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:45 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:41 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:33 pm It wouldn't make sense to explain your powers in that way, if it was his action I'd say it would mention his action.

Do you suspect Quin, or are you simply not a civilian?

No and No

First I want clarification that it was his power and not a message.

If it was a power then we should be lynching INH! Since i'm good.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:56 pm If Quin is actually bad and invented this whole thing as a ploy because there's no alignment reveals, it would go down as possibly the best baddie ploy I've ever seen.

I'm pretty confident it's not that, but he'd get my mad respect if it was.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:07 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:53 pm Sig

Is you being lynched day 3 better than you being lynched day 4?

Yes day 3 is the optimal lynching period if my calculations are correct.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:20 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:45 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:41 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:33 pm It wouldn't make sense to explain your powers in that way, if it was his action I'd say it would mention his action.

Do you suspect Quin, or are you simply not a civilian?

No and No

First I want clarification that it was his power and not a message.

If it was a power then we should be lynching INH! Since i'm good.

He already said it wasn't his power. The implication is that someone else has the power to give a random person a PM at night that tells the person whether two players are aligned or not aligned with one another.

I hope that alignment's are going to be revealed at some point because operating without them is going to be difficult.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:57 pm @Quin

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:31 am nutella is a civ and either one of mac and golden is bad

IS this still true in your mind?

ye

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:36 am I'm currently thinking about a sig/Golden team.

Why

Also could you explain your note a bit more? And why we should trust some random message.

Golden was quick to deny my info-dump before. Feels like he's your teammate and was protecting you.

No, I was quick to challenge it.

How many times do I have to say that I NEVER PROTECT TEAMMATES. Literally never because it is the stupidest thing to do.

Go read Economics, where I bussed my entire team early and rode it to the end. That's how you win as scum. Not protecting someone who had just been outed as having a 50% chance of being bad.

If you think you should get to say something and everyone just believe it without asking questions, you've got another think coming.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:24 pm When did Quin say it wasn’t his power?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:25 pm Kyle's posts have been mainly fluff or interacting with/around Daisy. I like his Daisy posts, but mafia can civ read people so NAI. Though if one is mafia i'd look closely at the other.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:25 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:57 pm @Quin

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:31 am nutella is a civ and either one of mac and golden is bad

IS this still true in your mind?

ye

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:36 am I'm currently thinking about a sig/Golden team.

Why

Also could you explain your note a bit more? And why we should trust some random message.

Golden was quick to deny my info-dump before. Feels like he's your teammate and was protecting you.

No, I was quick to challenge it.

How many times do I have to say that I NEVER PROTECT TEAMMATES. Literally never because it is the stupidest thing to do.

Go read Economics, where I bussed my entire team early and rode it to the end. That's how you win as scum. Not protecting someone who had just been outed as having a 50% chance of being bad.

If you think you should get to say something and everyone just believe it without asking questions, you've got another think coming.

Don't know if it's meaningful to the game but I disagree with this so much. I have bluntly defended my teammates in almost every scum game I've played and my team's almost always win. Ultimately I find that uninformed players are suggestible so just telling them things are as they are tends to work on the vast majority of players.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:28 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:25 pm Kyle's posts have been mainly fluff or interacting with/around Daisy. I like his Daisy posts, but mafia can civ read people so NAI. Though if one is mafia i'd look closely at the other.

Strongly reading Spacedaisy as town at this point. Kyle not so much.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:27 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:24 pm When did Quin say it wasn’t his power?

WTF this is the SECOND time that I have remembered a post that when I look back for it in ISO it's gone.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:49 am woah woah woah who said anything about this being my role

i've already roleclaimed

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:34 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:33 am honestly i have no fuckin idea how cool the rest of the town's roles are comparatively but mine seems pretty damn cool so let me live a few days k

i'm a stump.

this is incidentally probably why nutella was vanished last night by the way

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:22 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:56 pm If Quin is actually bad and invented this whole thing as a ploy because there's no alignment reveals, it would go down as possibly the best baddie ploy I've ever seen.

I'm pretty confident it's not that, but he'd get my mad respect if it was.

Doesn't rule out the possibility that he's bad and got accurate information ie. INH and Sig are a combination of indie/indie/civ.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:27 pm I recruited Daisy for my scum team in Fire Walk With Me but she got snuffed almost immediately, so other than that, I don’t know her scum game either. Daisy, what was your last scum game aside from that?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:10 pm solid Town:
Nutella (Vanihsed players should be kept on list imo in case they come back)
Daisy
Zeph

Townish:
Mac (He's super wrong, but not bad)
Scotty/Golden (?) Dont quite understand the dynamic going on here, but YOLO am I right?
Quin: Don't think mafia quin would claim what he did.
TH Same game so far as U pick


Disturbing me:
Colin, He's been off, can't really describe this it's mainly gut SOMETHING CIV SIG DOES ALL THE TIME. :cry
Lap
Luna, can't read her at all, but hate how she jumps kinda onto my wagon. Especially after she jumped onto voting me last night?
Choutus: No real posts, can't recall who he voted for day 1 but night 1 he went with golden. low key budding attempt?

Mafia maybe?
INH if it has to be me or him it's him. Plus his big post was super bad ( Yes I said it looked okay earlier I WAS WRONG OKAY! OKAY?)
Kyle for the lolz and he's weirding me out gotta iSO him.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:35 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:27 pm I recruited Daisy for my scum team in Fire Walk With Me but she got snuffed almost immediately, so other than that, I don’t know her scum game either. Daisy, what was your last scum game aside from that?

Fiddler on the Roof. Where I had zero chance of winning but I think I played pretty well. It was mechanically impossible for me to win that game though after a tied lynch between two of my teammates and one refused to vote to save herself. It gave away she was clearly bad and so was he. That was like Day 2.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:36 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:10 pm solid Town:
Nutella (Vanihsed players should be kept on list imo in case they come back)
Daisy
Zeph

Townish:
Mac (He's super wrong, but not bad)
Scotty/Golden (?) Dont quite understand the dynamic going on here, but YOLO am I right?
Quin: Don't think mafia quin would claim what he did.
TH Same game so far as U pick


Disturbing me:
Colin, He's been off, can't really describe this it's mainly gut SOMETHING CIV SIG DOES ALL THE TIME. :cry
Lap
Luna, can't read her at all, but hate how she jumps kinda onto my wagon. Especially after she jumped onto voting me last night?
Choutus: No real posts, can't recall who he voted for day 1 but night 1 he went with golden. low key budding attempt?

Mafia maybe?
INH if it has to be me or him it's him. Plus his big post was super bad ( Yes I said it looked okay earlier I WAS WRONG OKAY! OKAY?)
Kyle for the lolz and he's weirding me out gotta iSO him.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:39 pm Somethign Something, i'm not tinfoiling and Quin has either me or INH as bad and they don't believe I'm omnipotent but if I am and don't get lynched that means I'm trustworthy. It's very confusing and I'm not a fan of it since it's only day 2.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:25 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:34 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:57 pm @Quin

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:31 am nutella is a civ and either one of mac and golden is bad

IS this still true in your mind?

ye

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:36 am I'm currently thinking about a sig/Golden team.

Why

Also could you explain your note a bit more? And why we should trust some random message.

Golden was quick to deny my info-dump before. Feels like he's your teammate and was protecting you.

No, I was quick to challenge it.

How many times do I have to say that I NEVER PROTECT TEAMMATES. Literally never because it is the stupidest thing to do.

Go read Economics, where I bussed my entire team early and rode it to the end. That's how you win as scum. Not protecting someone who had just been outed as having a 50% chance of being bad.

If you think you should get to say something and everyone just believe it without asking questions, you've got another think coming.

Don't know if it's meaningful to the game but I disagree with this so much. I have bluntly defended my teammates in almost every scum game I've played and my team's almost always win. Ultimately I find that uninformed players are suggestible so just telling them things are as they are tends to work on the vast majority of players.

What works for you and what works for me is different.

I know what I get called out as being suspicious for and avoid it when scum.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:22 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:56 pm If Quin is actually bad and invented this whole thing as a ploy because there's no alignment reveals, it would go down as possibly the best baddie ploy I've ever seen.

I'm pretty confident it's not that, but he'd get my mad respect if it was.

Doesn't rule out the possibility that he's bad and got accurate information ie. INH and Sig are a combination of indie/indie/civ.

good point

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:13 pm and wow I keep forgetting that Epi is in this game, and he didnt do any day 1 shenanigans. I'd put him as Mafia maybe on my list.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:32 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:31 pm This generation has to click a button to express their emotions.

B.F. Skinner would be proud.

LIKE

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:31 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:37 pm I have my vote already decided. It wasn't hard. Sorry mafia.

Time to go back in time and kill epi before he can sign up for the game.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:48 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:44 pm

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:31 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:37 pm I have my vote already decided. It wasn't hard. Sorry mafia.

Time to go back in time and kill epi before he can sign up for the game.

What do you mean?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:37 pm I have my vote already decided. It wasn't hard. Sorry mafia.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:20 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:19 pm 10:40pm EST (I assume PM, as his post doesn't say)

Are you...................From the future.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:54 pm Don't like how Epi jumped on Zeph looks bad in my eyes.

I've got no clue what's with Golden but I'd be against lynching him this early in case he's town, just since he's so strong as a townie.

Mac's been less then Macey so far.

I'm loving Nutella's playstyle

TH is playing like last game so he can get a light town read.

Sig: Should be lynhced day 3 since he has a great joke set up for that day, not day 2 and not dat 4, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut day 3.

INH is already more active then last game so good look for him

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:37 pm I don't think INH is right on Golden, but i'm not a fan of Golden's NO U.

INH gave a massive meaty post, so I'd rather not lynch him atm.

What does everyone think of Epi? His push on Zeph seemed very meh and I wasn't a fan of Choutus jumping on.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:13 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:37 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:54 pm Don't like how Epi jumped on Zeph looks bad in my eyes.

And how was that?

It seemed like very weak reasoning and he was an easy place to try to band wagon.

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:20 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:13 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:12 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:08 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:55 pm elect me please i'm gonna make the syndicate great again™

Build bridges not walls

an accurate representation of sig's leadership ability

Yea I'm the bridge the cars are baddies cruising to an easy victory.

I'll block there path to an easy win.

Ergo quin is endorsing me

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:50 pm My vote is up for sale.

I won't vote for you tomorrow or use any night actiosn on you

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:21 pm Epi if you vote me, I'll vote you in your time line.

Same with everyone else.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:18 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:11 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:50 pm My vote is up for sale.

I won't vote for you tomorrow or use any night actiosn on you

I don't think you were planning on doing either, so what have I to gain?

I mean no, but now I won't for sure.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:56 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:21 pm Epi if you vote me, I'll vote you in your time line.

Same with everyone else.

I'm not sure if you're a good politician or a bad one. If you offer the benefit to everyone, it doesn't benefit me.

It benefits everyone equally, but you more since I said so. And if I was a good politician you'd be bribing me I wouldn't be bribing you.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:34 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:12 pm
sig's response was one of incredulity, questioning the credibility of the message itself (!) rather than the message's existence.

@ColinIsCool I was responding to epi on this point. I also don't see why i'd question that the message existed.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:45 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:41 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:33 pm It wouldn't make sense to explain your powers in that way, if it was his action I'd say it would mention his action.

Do you suspect Quin, or are you simply not a civilian?

No and No

First I want clarification that it was his power and not a message.

If it was a power then we should be lynching INH! Since i'm good.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:35 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:27 pm I recruited Daisy for my scum team in Fire Walk With Me but she got snuffed almost immediately, so other than that, I don’t know her scum game either. Daisy, what was your last scum game aside from that?

Fiddler on the Roof. Where I had zero chance of winning but I think I played pretty well. It was mechanically impossible for me to win that game though after a tied lynch between two of my teammates and one refused to vote to save herself. It gave away she was clearly bad and so was he. That was like Day 2.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:41 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:39 pm Somethign Something, i'm not tinfoiling and Quin has either me or INH as bad and they don't believe I'm omnipotent but if I am and don't get lynched that means I'm trustworthy. It's very confusing and I'm not a fan of it since it's only day 2.

Perdón, pero no hablo español.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:28 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:25 pm Kyle's posts have been mainly fluff or interacting with/around Daisy. I like his Daisy posts, but mafia can civ read people so NAI. Though if one is mafia i'd look closely at the other.

Strongly reading Spacedaisy as town at this point. Kyle not so much.

Why

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:41 pm So we're trying to call Sig's bluff or what is this?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:20 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:45 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:41 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:33 pm It wouldn't make sense to explain your powers in that way, if it was his action I'd say it would mention his action.

Do you suspect Quin, or are you simply not a civilian?

No and No

First I want clarification that it was his power and not a message.

If it was a power then we should be lynching INH! Since i'm good.

He already said it wasn't his power. The implication is that someone else has the power to give a random person a PM at night that tells the person whether two players are aligned or not aligned with one another.

I hope that alignment's are going to be revealed at some point because operating without them is going to be difficult.

<.<

See golden and Epi are claiming that it is his power.

My original thought is that someone sent him a PM saying this, so my original question which got Golden chasing after me was why should we believe that the messenger is one civ and two right.

I got jumped on for that. Since everyone else seems to be saying Quin claimed that it was his power.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:47 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:41 pm So we're trying to call Sig's bluff or what is this?

Sig has three different and unrelated cases being made against him.

My case is based on his meta.

The majority are pushing for his lynch based on Quin's info.

Epi's case is based on analysing his post content.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:47 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:41 pm So we're trying to call Sig's bluff or what is this?

Sig has three different and unrelated cases being made against him.

My case is based on his meta.

The majority are pushing for his lynch based on Quin's info.

Epi's case is based on analysing his post content.

I feel so loved tbh, but y'all are wrong.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:45 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:28 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:25 pm Kyle's posts have been mainly fluff or interacting with/around Daisy. I like his Daisy posts, but mafia can civ read people so NAI. Though if one is mafia i'd look closely at the other.

Strongly reading Spacedaisy as town at this point. Kyle not so much.

Why

Why not?

Spacedaisy seems like her usual self and her opinions have been largely rational in an OTT townie way.

Kyle has been blendy and is giving me the impression he is posting less than he could be ie. hiding.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:53 pm Turnip Head is scum.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:50 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:47 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:41 pm So we're trying to call Sig's bluff or what is this?

Sig has three different and unrelated cases being made against him.

My case is based on his meta.

The majority are pushing for his lynch based on Quin's info.

Epi's case is based on analysing his post content.

I feel so loved tbh, but y'all are wrong.

Explain to me why you are behaving in a passive and relatively timid way under duress here when in other recent town games I have seen you play you are blunt, aggressive and tinfoily.

Here you are actively avoiding tinfoiling which is a hallmark of your town play.