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Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:16 pm
by Toopy and Binoo
-Toopy

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:17 pm
by Toopy and Binoo
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:55 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:38 pm Speaking of bad reads, I almost spit out my coffee when I saw "it was towny how Trans Rights nade that read on how the threadstate doesn't support T&T being a wolf." YES!!! That was in fact a very good threadstate read, because it's pretty obvious I have no team here...I'm stuck with town who are pretty universally playing by lame feelie reads and clueless instead of having a pack...but notice how they made this good read they are getting towncred for and NEVER MOVED THEIR VOTE. I cannot believe I have to point this out. Oh wait, I ALREADY HAVE pointed it out, repeatedly.
outed as lost wolf tbh
Are they though? They might just be pure Mafia.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:18 pm
by Toopy and Binoo
-Toopy

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:19 pm
by trans rights
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 1:31 pm okay if there is one thing that's annoying me about toopy & binoo it's all the arbitrary percentages. like even the decimals. bruh moment
i agree but ive also seen the dude randomize his reads in-thread so i have zero expectations for his v game

~mawile

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:20 pm
by trans rights
where is c4 to complain about progression cases when we need him

~mawile

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:20 pm
by trans rights
TwoAndThrough wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:21 pm
trans rights wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:00 pm
Spoiler: show
Poop Explosions wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 2:23 pm So to preflip, what do you need? Confidence, right?
trans rights wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 pm on a sidenote, i think julinook is a villager for nanook's push onto two and through. it's in the sweetspot where it probably isn't a bus if two and through is a wolf and i generally like the aggression and persistence of the read
trans rights wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 pm i kinda get the feeling that there's a wolf in two and through and mana. again mana's vote on two and through is kinda bad regarding of the latter's alignment. they also went into commentary mode regarding my interactions with bottom text in a wolfy way. if mana is a wolf, bottom text is probably a villager i think.
The preflip on TAT is almost a "whoops I preflipped" preflip. Like you're barely supposed to notice van's already counting TAT as a pelt.

Up to now van's regularly called that one thing TAT did wolfy, but hasn't really gone past that. She clearly isn't sure on TAT in the second quote. She's already considering Nook spewed by TAT.

The Mana preflip has all the same problems. First of all, why the fuck does there even need to be a dichotomy again, especially when she says the reads have nothing to do with each other, and then again, the preflip on the unconfident scumread. She hedged on the read when it first came up too, saying it could be TWTBAW.

The whole thing just feels like she's putting worldbuilding in front of plain reads in an agenda'y way. Like, she's not diving headfirst all the way into either read, but she's playing with that plan in mind anyway.
ooookay so i missed this post. woops. it's a villagery look at the very least.

so is the point here that i'm not diving 6 layers deep in a wolf read? i mean... that's not really my style to begin with. you're basically calling me a wolf because i started pushed on two and through for a specific reason and not much past that, which... you're suggesting that i need 10 reasons for someone to be a wolf to actually be super confident in it? i think that's pretty absurd, and absolutely not true for me personally anyways. tell me one person that has demonstrated an incredibly nuanced and multilayered read in this game so far if you can? because i can't remember one (you dont count btw). i do think two and through is a wolf currently, and my posts should clearly indicate as such. you're placing your unreasonably high expectations onto me. it's d1 my friend. i'm not going to have a dissertation on why two and through or mana are wolves if they are wolves.

the dichotomy i'm placing between mana and two and through is based on how mana treated two and through. the slot voted two and through but in a vicarious way. you pointed out that i hedged, and that's true. to me it looks like it's too bad of a vote to be w/w, but it's not like i've seen bad w/w votes before. that's just what my gut instinct said. if wolves are going to vote on their partners, they want to look good. i also never said that they had nothing to do with each other, you're misconstruing that based on me saying "regardless of two and through's alignment". that's not the implication there. the implication is that the vote looks individually bad for mana.

besides i feel like you're seeing ghosts wrt this disparity. my read on julinook is not just based on two and through being a wolf, it's also based on how they approached the read. that's villagery to me regardless of two and through's alignment. my read on mana is that some of their posts are wolfy regardless of two and through's alignment.
regardless, i think the conclusion also has problems insofar as you haven't actually asked yourself why if i was a wolf i would be pre-flipping. the most obvious answer would be tmi, right? but you clearly don't seem to think that's the case based on you thinking my posts are agenda-y. so i'm just confused on where you stand on this as a whole.
Do you have any interest in actually solving this slot, or are you just on "flip it and see"?

Because I already gave a common wolf agenda for making pre-flip reads, and you apparently didn't read that post.

It seems like you have no interest in actually "defending" your slot, since you are just dismissing or not even reading questions/observations about what you are doing.

It also seems like you aren't really interested in evaluating me, just in making sure no one listens to me.

To repeat...wolves hate to make reads day one that will commit them. If someone becomes a consensus borderline POE and the wolf laid down a town read day one that is hard for them to get out of it makes it awkward to push for the mischop. If it comes down to really needing to expand a tightening POE it is even worse. So, good wolf makes a bunch of preflip reads instead. They look "helpful" and "solvey"...but when the root of their world flips one simple "oh I was wrong there" gives them a free range reset by erasing all those awkward day one reads.

Now, I'm kind of interested in the Mana read, because you are now making it very clear that is a read you are willing to commit to regardless of my alignment. If you could expand on how that is a wolfy vote a little more that would be...well...helpful.
okay i'm trying to look for "questions i didn't answer in two and through's iso" and i got to this point where he accused mist of not answering a question

i rechecked the iso and mist didn't really dodge any questions two and through was asking xem early on

as far as i know this entire post is patently untrue because neither of my game nor mist's game fits this criteria

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:21 pm
by trans rights
i wasnt answering stuff because it was all directed at van and i figured she could answer them better than i could

~mawile

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:25 pm
by trans rights
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:10 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:04 pm there's a difference between what you wrote and "i think nutella's reads are bad but she's probably a villager. if i'm wrong, it's because of alison potentially strategizing in wolf chat"

the latter is significantly more useful and villagery than the former.
we have a language barrier

ya hate to see it

of course it's to be expected when you are speaking in wolf


meanwhile...you are going with "fluff posted during RVS" as the foundation of your case? seriously?

I respect the refusal to use meta, but seriously, ask around, I fluffpost in RVS.

Now HERE is a newsflash: I am not the only one.

As to the contention that I just kept on fluff posting...I was maybe the only one that DIDN'T. I pointed out an actual fact. Throwing that grenade into the murky water of feelie reads and bullshit is the only thing that has produced any meaningful discussions still. I have zero regrets about throwing that grenade.
you made a wolfy post and i called out why it was wolfy. keep deflecting though.

fluffposting in rvs doesn't really matter. my problem is you continued to do so at a point where there was legitimately stuff to be investigated, and the one thing (the vote triangulation) your hydra did point out didn't go anywhere. it didn't have anything to do with the observation you made either. it was how you phrased the observation and did nothing with it. that is what sparked discussion, so trying to act as though what you did was actually progressing the game state is wrong, because the ones that did progress the game state were the ones that made the read based on how you made the read and not with the read itself.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:26 pm
by TwoAndThrough
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:20 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:21 pm
trans rights wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:00 pm
Spoiler: show
Poop Explosions wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 2:23 pm So to preflip, what do you need? Confidence, right?
trans rights wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 pm on a sidenote, i think julinook is a villager for nanook's push onto two and through. it's in the sweetspot where it probably isn't a bus if two and through is a wolf and i generally like the aggression and persistence of the read
trans rights wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 pm i kinda get the feeling that there's a wolf in two and through and mana. again mana's vote on two and through is kinda bad regarding of the latter's alignment. they also went into commentary mode regarding my interactions with bottom text in a wolfy way. if mana is a wolf, bottom text is probably a villager i think.
The preflip on TAT is almost a "whoops I preflipped" preflip. Like you're barely supposed to notice van's already counting TAT as a pelt.

Up to now van's regularly called that one thing TAT did wolfy, but hasn't really gone past that. She clearly isn't sure on TAT in the second quote. She's already considering Nook spewed by TAT.

The Mana preflip has all the same problems. First of all, why the fuck does there even need to be a dichotomy again, especially when she says the reads have nothing to do with each other, and then again, the preflip on the unconfident scumread. She hedged on the read when it first came up too, saying it could be TWTBAW.

The whole thing just feels like she's putting worldbuilding in front of plain reads in an agenda'y way. Like, she's not diving headfirst all the way into either read, but she's playing with that plan in mind anyway.
ooookay so i missed this post. woops. it's a villagery look at the very least.

so is the point here that i'm not diving 6 layers deep in a wolf read? i mean... that's not really my style to begin with. you're basically calling me a wolf because i started pushed on two and through for a specific reason and not much past that, which... you're suggesting that i need 10 reasons for someone to be a wolf to actually be super confident in it? i think that's pretty absurd, and absolutely not true for me personally anyways. tell me one person that has demonstrated an incredibly nuanced and multilayered read in this game so far if you can? because i can't remember one (you dont count btw). i do think two and through is a wolf currently, and my posts should clearly indicate as such. you're placing your unreasonably high expectations onto me. it's d1 my friend. i'm not going to have a dissertation on why two and through or mana are wolves if they are wolves.

the dichotomy i'm placing between mana and two and through is based on how mana treated two and through. the slot voted two and through but in a vicarious way. you pointed out that i hedged, and that's true. to me it looks like it's too bad of a vote to be w/w, but it's not like i've seen bad w/w votes before. that's just what my gut instinct said. if wolves are going to vote on their partners, they want to look good. i also never said that they had nothing to do with each other, you're misconstruing that based on me saying "regardless of two and through's alignment". that's not the implication there. the implication is that the vote looks individually bad for mana.

besides i feel like you're seeing ghosts wrt this disparity. my read on julinook is not just based on two and through being a wolf, it's also based on how they approached the read. that's villagery to me regardless of two and through's alignment. my read on mana is that some of their posts are wolfy regardless of two and through's alignment.
regardless, i think the conclusion also has problems insofar as you haven't actually asked yourself why if i was a wolf i would be pre-flipping. the most obvious answer would be tmi, right? but you clearly don't seem to think that's the case based on you thinking my posts are agenda-y. so i'm just confused on where you stand on this as a whole.
Do you have any interest in actually solving this slot, or are you just on "flip it and see"?

Because I already gave a common wolf agenda for making pre-flip reads, and you apparently didn't read that post.

It seems like you have no interest in actually "defending" your slot, since you are just dismissing or not even reading questions/observations about what you are doing.

It also seems like you aren't really interested in evaluating me, just in making sure no one listens to me.

To repeat...wolves hate to make reads day one that will commit them. If someone becomes a consensus borderline POE and the wolf laid down a town read day one that is hard for them to get out of it makes it awkward to push for the mischop. If it comes down to really needing to expand a tightening POE it is even worse. So, good wolf makes a bunch of preflip reads instead. They look "helpful" and "solvey"...but when the root of their world flips one simple "oh I was wrong there" gives them a free range reset by erasing all those awkward day one reads.

Now, I'm kind of interested in the Mana read, because you are now making it very clear that is a read you are willing to commit to regardless of my alignment. If you could expand on how that is a wolfy vote a little more that would be...well...helpful.
okay i'm trying to look for "questions i didn't answer in two and through's iso" and i got to this point where he accused mist of not answering a question

i rechecked the iso and mist didn't really dodge any questions two and through was asking xem early on

as far as i know this entire post is patently untrue because neither of my game nor mist's game fits this criteria
The question you dodged and continue to dodge is why you are ignoring the clear potential that I did what I did for exactly the reasons I said I did it...which are towny reasons. You have very clearly just locked me in as your mischop of the day. Most of your other reads are easy to get off of when I flip town, maintaining you a clear fresh start for day two. The only read I had seen to that point that didn't fit that was the read on Mana so I tried to get you to talk about that and you luffed that off.

Now who is "misrepresenting"?

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:29 pm
by Toopy and Binoo
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:26 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:20 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:21 pm
trans rights wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:00 pm
Spoiler: show
Poop Explosions wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 2:23 pm So to preflip, what do you need? Confidence, right?
trans rights wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 pm on a sidenote, i think julinook is a villager for nanook's push onto two and through. it's in the sweetspot where it probably isn't a bus if two and through is a wolf and i generally like the aggression and persistence of the read
trans rights wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 1:24 pm i kinda get the feeling that there's a wolf in two and through and mana. again mana's vote on two and through is kinda bad regarding of the latter's alignment. they also went into commentary mode regarding my interactions with bottom text in a wolfy way. if mana is a wolf, bottom text is probably a villager i think.
The preflip on TAT is almost a "whoops I preflipped" preflip. Like you're barely supposed to notice van's already counting TAT as a pelt.

Up to now van's regularly called that one thing TAT did wolfy, but hasn't really gone past that. She clearly isn't sure on TAT in the second quote. She's already considering Nook spewed by TAT.

The Mana preflip has all the same problems. First of all, why the fuck does there even need to be a dichotomy again, especially when she says the reads have nothing to do with each other, and then again, the preflip on the unconfident scumread. She hedged on the read when it first came up too, saying it could be TWTBAW.

The whole thing just feels like she's putting worldbuilding in front of plain reads in an agenda'y way. Like, she's not diving headfirst all the way into either read, but she's playing with that plan in mind anyway.
ooookay so i missed this post. woops. it's a villagery look at the very least.

so is the point here that i'm not diving 6 layers deep in a wolf read? i mean... that's not really my style to begin with. you're basically calling me a wolf because i started pushed on two and through for a specific reason and not much past that, which... you're suggesting that i need 10 reasons for someone to be a wolf to actually be super confident in it? i think that's pretty absurd, and absolutely not true for me personally anyways. tell me one person that has demonstrated an incredibly nuanced and multilayered read in this game so far if you can? because i can't remember one (you dont count btw). i do think two and through is a wolf currently, and my posts should clearly indicate as such. you're placing your unreasonably high expectations onto me. it's d1 my friend. i'm not going to have a dissertation on why two and through or mana are wolves if they are wolves.

the dichotomy i'm placing between mana and two and through is based on how mana treated two and through. the slot voted two and through but in a vicarious way. you pointed out that i hedged, and that's true. to me it looks like it's too bad of a vote to be w/w, but it's not like i've seen bad w/w votes before. that's just what my gut instinct said. if wolves are going to vote on their partners, they want to look good. i also never said that they had nothing to do with each other, you're misconstruing that based on me saying "regardless of two and through's alignment". that's not the implication there. the implication is that the vote looks individually bad for mana.

besides i feel like you're seeing ghosts wrt this disparity. my read on julinook is not just based on two and through being a wolf, it's also based on how they approached the read. that's villagery to me regardless of two and through's alignment. my read on mana is that some of their posts are wolfy regardless of two and through's alignment.
regardless, i think the conclusion also has problems insofar as you haven't actually asked yourself why if i was a wolf i would be pre-flipping. the most obvious answer would be tmi, right? but you clearly don't seem to think that's the case based on you thinking my posts are agenda-y. so i'm just confused on where you stand on this as a whole.
Do you have any interest in actually solving this slot, or are you just on "flip it and see"?

Because I already gave a common wolf agenda for making pre-flip reads, and you apparently didn't read that post.

It seems like you have no interest in actually "defending" your slot, since you are just dismissing or not even reading questions/observations about what you are doing.

It also seems like you aren't really interested in evaluating me, just in making sure no one listens to me.

To repeat...wolves hate to make reads day one that will commit them. If someone becomes a consensus borderline POE and the wolf laid down a town read day one that is hard for them to get out of it makes it awkward to push for the mischop. If it comes down to really needing to expand a tightening POE it is even worse. So, good wolf makes a bunch of preflip reads instead. They look "helpful" and "solvey"...but when the root of their world flips one simple "oh I was wrong there" gives them a free range reset by erasing all those awkward day one reads.

Now, I'm kind of interested in the Mana read, because you are now making it very clear that is a read you are willing to commit to regardless of my alignment. If you could expand on how that is a wolfy vote a little more that would be...well...helpful.
okay i'm trying to look for "questions i didn't answer in two and through's iso" and i got to this point where he accused mist of not answering a question

i rechecked the iso and mist didn't really dodge any questions two and through was asking xem early on

as far as i know this entire post is patently untrue because neither of my game nor mist's game fits this criteria
The question you dodged and continue to dodge is why you are ignoring the clear potential that I did what I did for exactly the reasons I said I did it...which are towny reasons. You have very clearly just locked me in as your mischop of the day. Most of your other reads are easy to get off of when I flip town, maintaining you a clear fresh start for day two. The only read I had seen to that point that didn't fit that was the read on Mana so I tried to get you to talk about that and you luffed that off.

Now who is "misrepresenting"?
Stop being LAMIST!
Get outta here!

-Toopy

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:31 pm
by trans rights
okay well this has gotten to the point of meaninglessness and i'm officially going to do something more productive with my time.

i've explained why i thought the vote triangulation post was wolfy. i explained why tim generally not being helpful on d1 isn't a good defense. with all due respect, read.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:31 pm
by TwoAndThrough
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:25 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:10 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:04 pm there's a difference between what you wrote and "i think nutella's reads are bad but she's probably a villager. if i'm wrong, it's because of alison potentially strategizing in wolf chat"

the latter is significantly more useful and villagery than the former.
we have a language barrier

ya hate to see it

of course it's to be expected when you are speaking in wolf


meanwhile...you are going with "fluff posted during RVS" as the foundation of your case? seriously?

I respect the refusal to use meta, but seriously, ask around, I fluffpost in RVS.

Now HERE is a newsflash: I am not the only one.

As to the contention that I just kept on fluff posting...I was maybe the only one that DIDN'T. I pointed out an actual fact. Throwing that grenade into the murky water of feelie reads and bullshit is the only thing that has produced any meaningful discussions still. I have zero regrets about throwing that grenade.
you made a wolfy post and i called out why it was wolfy. keep deflecting though.

fluffposting in rvs doesn't really matter. my problem is you continued to do so at a point where there was legitimately stuff to be investigated, and the one thing (the vote triangulation) your hydra did point out didn't go anywhere. it didn't have anything to do with the observation you made either. it was how you phrased the observation and did nothing with it. that is what sparked discussion, so trying to act as though what you did was actually progressing the game state is wrong, because the ones that did progress the game state were the ones that made the read based on how you made the read and not with the read itself.
Bullshit. I posted an observation of a fact and you faked a snit about it. It wasn't "a wolfy post," it was a statement of fact. You wanted to spin it as shade, and I told you it wasn't shade. I and numerous other people told you there could be town reasons for pointing out that fact. The observable truth is that almost all reads that are more than "gosh feelies" in this game somehow revolve around that observation of a fact, so guess what, it worked and the town reasons that I made that post are proving out.

Now, you can either maintain the chainsawing and keep making your associative reads that you can back right off of when I flip town and "surprise" you, or you can move on and try to do something less obviously wolfy. Choose.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:33 pm
by TwoAndThrough
Notice how as soon as one says "okay I'm gonna stop chainsawing at Tim" the other one comes in being snotty and trying to keep that saw buzzing.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:37 pm
by trans rights
statements of facts can be wolfy posts

~mawile

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:39 pm
by Honey & Vinegar
Toopy and Binoo wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 9:49 am
Julinook wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 9:22 am Good morning all. I'm going to sort through what I'm thinking about people as of now. Still a lot of nulls but I hope to resolve some of them today. There is no order within the tiers.

Town Leans
Akemi Hazelnut - started leaning town on them yesterday and that hasn't changed. Probing, solvey.

Mana - they identified a wolf read on someone being considered towny by the thread. I like the fact they are not just going along with consensus even though I didn't fully understand their point about falcon knows open wolfing. Also Nook is leaning town.

TonyStarkPlayingItCool - Like their read on mana and their reaction to T&B's numbers. Not sure if I agree with their vote for BT.

trans rights - I liked their questioning of whether the game state supports a T&T wolf. Made me stop and think about my read, though I still end up sussing T&T.

Null
Falconknows - I was town reading this slot yesterday but I didn't see much if anything out of them yesterday which bothers me so I'm moving them to null. There are still a couple of posts I find villagery but there just isn't enough there for me to keep them as a town lean.

Bottom Text - I'm basically just confused about BT. I can't tell who is speaking when, and maybe that doesn't really matter. Sometimes they seem to be mad but maybe they are just kidding. There was one whole page - pg. 16 for me - where I had no idea of what they really thought. Voting Poop Explosions but I couldn't tell you why. I could use some help with the reasons why several are seeing them as wolf.

Toopy and Binoo - There were a couple of posts early on that made me feel like Toopy was a wolf but then Binoo came in with posts I found villagery. BT and I believe TR seem to be familiar with Gavial and are leaning village on them so I may need to sheep that read for today. I do not understand their numbers at all- it feels like they are pulling them out of thin air but since I don't do math I need someone else to tell me if the numbers are kosher. My scum lean is voting here so thats a plus for them. Don't see myself voting here today.

Honey & Vinegar - I have no experience reading Urist and I can't remember anything they've said.

Timsuptogettingserious - I just need to iso them and I feel like they will move from null.

Poop Explosions - Same as with above, I just need to iso.

The Walrus - no ratable behavior.

Leaning Scum
Two and Through - Still reading them as wolf.

Priorities for today:

Come to a decision about Bottom Text. Understand the reasons for the wolf reads as well as the town reads.

Iso Poop and Timsgettingserious and sort them.

Iso Honey & Vinegar and sort.
Personally I think your town.
But if your scum I bet both your buddies are in your Town Leans and I’m completely wrong on my solve.

-Toopy
^ this seems like a town thing to say. I can't imagine faking that type of thought.

We are a bit uncertain on julenook - not sure on their reasoning for some of their reads. For instance, their read on TSPIC. They like that they like Mana as town. Doesn't seem like the greatest reason to put them in your town category.. also given that they're unsure of their current vote,

In general, their reads seem contrived.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:46 pm
by trans rights
for the record, mist thinks mana might be a villager and i'm not completely onboard but i don't really oppose it until further notice

walrus' posts are tonally okay but it's a null iso overall

[VOTE: tonystarkplaysitcool] aubergine

and in a shocking turn of events, let's do this.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:46 pm
by TwoAndThrough
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:37 pm statements of facts can be wolfy posts

~mawile
Can be. Also can be just a towny throwing a fact into the pond to see what people say about it. Hard to tell.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:47 pm
by Bottom Text
ngl i think TaT is a villager

i havent asked my teammate their take

i'm being vague as to who i am despite it being obviously me 😹

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:49 pm
by Honey & Vinegar
Julinook wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 10:46 am
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:52 am Maf team is trans rights, toopy & binoo, falconknows
Boom game won leaving thread now bye
H&V I am interested in your reads here. What leads you to believe these three are scum? Also, I noticed you think T&T is obvious town so I'm interested in hearing your thoughts there too.
Toopy was caught using a text editor. They were probably running posts by one another. I want to continue scum reading them just to justify getting rid of them but they do seem town now. Binoo's posts are actually scummy tho
Trans rights has a bunch of posts that are scum indicative. If I had time to iso them i probably wouldn't but i might in the future sometime
Falconknows is just openly scum idk how to explain it further.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:50 pm
by trans rights
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:46 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:37 pm statements of facts can be wolfy posts

~mawile
Can be. Also can be just a towny throwing a fact into the pond to see what people say about it. Hard to tell.
maybe

that's why everyone gives their own opinion on it, right?

~mawile

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:50 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:49 pm Binoo's posts are actually scummy tho
can you elaborate on this take

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:50 pm
by Honey & Vinegar
Oh and two and through are being their usual obviously scum selves so they are clearly town and yeeting them is an insane thing to do for anyone who has played with either of them

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:51 pm
by Honey & Vinegar
Two and through is 93.48% curmudgeonly
This directly correlates to their town equity

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:51 pm
by TwoAndThrough
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:46 pm for the record, mist thinks mana might be a villager and i'm not completely onboard but i don't really oppose it until further notice

walrus' posts are tonally okay but it's a null iso overall

[VOTE: tonystarkplaysitcool] aubergine

and in a shocking turn of events, let's do this.
Image

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:51 pm
by Bottom Text
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:49 pm Toopy was caught using a text editor. They were probably running posts by one another. I want to continue scum reading them just to justify getting rid of them but they do seem town now. Binoo's posts are actually scummy tho
i use text editors all the time regardless of alignment and have ran a few posts by my teammate (mostly for peak shitpost status, though)

i think seth is in V meta and haven't had an issue with spaks posts

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:53 pm
by Honey & Vinegar
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:50 pm
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:49 pm Binoo's posts are actually scummy tho
can you elaborate on this take
Nah the slot is prob town

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:53 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
I don't want Bottom Text eliminated today.

[VOTE: TwoAndThrough] aubergine

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:54 pm
by TwoAndThrough
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:50 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:46 pm
trans rights wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:37 pm statements of facts can be wolfy posts

~mawile
Can be. Also can be just a towny throwing a fact into the pond to see what people say about it. Hard to tell.
maybe

that's why everyone gives their own opinion on it, right?

~mawile

Sure. I never faulted you for having your opinion. I faulted you for being totally committed to your opinion, dismissing all conflicting opinion, and attacking me for challenging your opinion rather than trying to defend it.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:54 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:53 pm I don't want Bottom Text eliminated today.

[VOTE: TwoAndThrough] aubergine
whatever you say boss

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:54 pm
by Honey & Vinegar
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:53 pm I don't want Bottom Text eliminated today.

[VOTE: TwoAndThrough] aubergine
False dichotomy ay

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm
by Bottom Text
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:53 pm I don't want Bottom Text eliminated today.

[VOTE: TwoAndThrough] aubergine
i see the essence of chloe has found its way to the slot in an unexpected turn of events

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
Honey & Vinegar wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:54 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:53 pm I don't want Bottom Text eliminated today.

[VOTE: TwoAndThrough] aubergine
False dichotomy ay
No nutella moved our vote to BT and I didn't like it, so I moved it back to my top scumread.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
we are 4 hours from eod

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
by Bottom Text
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
eod is at 7pm not 4pm

i think

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
sorry my bad i have the account on pst lol

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
Oh I'm dumb the timezone on this account is different.

Carry on.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
somehow i thought i had left it on default which was eastern but idk

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
by TwoAndThrough
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?
Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:58 pm
by Timsup2gettinserious
@Hyena please let me vote for TaT

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:59 pm
by Akemi Hazelnut
I have seen various people say that Toopy/Binoo are firmly in their town range and that they're either rand at best, or actively in their town meta. I am accepting that shield for D1.

The only person I would be willing to vote other than TAT would be Mana.

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 2:59 pm
by Timsup2gettinserious
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:58 pm @Hyena please let me vote for TaT
damnit

@Hyena

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
by Bottom Text
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?
its only natural her IQ temporarily dropped as she moved her vote off of us

🐭🐭🐭

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
by TwoAndThrough
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?
Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.
I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm
by Timsup2gettinserious
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
literally open wolfing at this point

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:02 pm
by Bottom Text
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:00 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:57 pm
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:56 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:55 pm I don't know what the cases on Poop and BT are. I have legit reasons to scumread TAT. Those three seem like the only wagons with any momentum so since we are 1 hour from EOD I am probably going to votepark on TAT.
One, four, okay, who's counting?
Don't split hairs please. Poop Explosions went up to 3 earlier so there is clearly some interest in that wagon and you know that is what I meant.
I was just laughing at the time zone thing.

As to your vote, what happened to "you know you can't read me and I know I can't read you so wait until day three and if there are no pelts we just kill each other"? All of a sudden you want to claim a day one read on me? Has being in hydra chat with Nutella damaged you?
i formally retract any non-scum read i have on you

what the fuck

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:03 pm
by TwoAndThrough
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:58 pm @Hyena please let me vote for TaT
Wanting to maj and end the day early Syn? Does that REALLY seem like a good towny thing to be doing?

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:03 pm
by Timsup2gettinserious
mindmeld with katsooa

Re: Modern Family Hydra Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 3:03 pm
by Timsup2gettinserious
TwoAndThrough wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 3:03 pm
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 2:58 pm @Hyena please let me vote for TaT
Wanting to maj and end the day early Syn? Does that REALLY seem like a good towny thing to be doing?
maj is 7 not 5 mr. mathemagician