The Syndicate

Should we be claiming our night actions? I highly doubt we make it to tomorrow anyway.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:17 pm Tbf the votes were 1/1/1 with urist not voting iirc

I did my best

I made like one post and it said to kill creature, don't bame me

I confess I'm a little anxious. This game has lasted too long for me and I just hope to get myself cleared and find the last wolf.

[VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

I made it clear everyone but me was to blame

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:21 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:17 pm Tbf the votes were 1/1/1 with urist not voting iirc

I did my best

I made like one post and it said to kill creature, don't bame me

I know I'm town so the kill would've been bad too.

Idk game is hard I feel like if I went back and read isos I could probably sort it but I dont have that kinda time

Can we call it a cordial draw

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:22 pm Idk game is hard I feel like if I went back and read isos I could probably sort it but I dont have that kinda time

I've been mostly trying to show I'm town lately. I think bussing Guillo and falcon wasn't needed here if I was wolf and I felt I also had a genuine reaction to Marmot and NAA dying because I was too busy protecting you and nobody else bothered to protect them.

I'm kinda hoping whoever is town between Spacedaisy and Urist show why they're town too.

I’m town. I can’t show you much, except my behavior with Guillo wouldn’t make sense as a wolf because it would be ridiculously obvious interactions with a teammate.

I think the only reason I’m still alive after Nook blatantly said he thought I was civ is because I was so far off on my reads and they could easily make me look suspicious.

I don’t have a freaking clue if it’s Creature or Urist. I don’t even want to guess frankly after what just happened with DDL.

The only thing I can say with certainty is that if you shoot me the wolves win.

If you want a full account of my actions I’ll share.

We're not claiming. I can explain why in post-game but it's definitely a bad idea atm.

Ignoring Nanook's townread, I would shoot Spacedaisy just based on the no-kills. Also, her second sentence above is a perspective slip.

Lol, you’re wrong and if Nook shoots me, the civs lose. That’s just the reality here. I’m the easiest person to paint as bad right now, but I’m not a wolf.

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:31 pm We're not claiming. I can explain why in post-game but it's definitely a bad idea atm.

Welp. I don't see the point of not claiming and I think it could help clear a lot.

I am going to leave the decision of whether or not I tell him my actions up to Nook. Because I have no reason to trust either of you at this point. If Nook wants me to share, I will do so with no qualms at all. If he sees a reason we shouldn't, I trust his opinion on it.

Whichever of you is town should reread your role pm very carefully and reconsider why it would be a bad idea to claim.

I don't really see what you are getting at. The best I can figure from that is the possibility of faking a claim to try and clear yourself, but that's a risk you run with any claiming. So whatever it is you are pointing to, I'm not seeing it.

We're just very very likely losing if we miss today.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:22 pm Idk game is hard I feel like if I went back and read isos I could probably sort it but I dont have that kinda time

I've been mostly trying to show I'm town lately. I think bussing Guillo and falcon wasn't needed here if I was wolf and I felt I also had a genuine reaction to Marmot and NAA dying because I was too busy protecting you and nobody else bothered to protect them.

Does anyone still doubt I'm town?

I do, because I don't know which of you is town right now. Urist last post looks very towny to me, even though I can't figure out what she is saying exactly.

But that could be faked, most hosts provide copies of Town role PMs to the wolves to ensure their private PMs won't be used for scum hunting.

Meeehhhhh.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:22 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:22 pm Idk game is hard I feel like if I went back and read isos I could probably sort it but I dont have that kinda time

I've been mostly trying to show I'm town lately. I think bussing Guillo and falcon wasn't needed here if I was wolf and I felt I also had a genuine reaction to Marmot and NAA dying because I was too busy protecting you and nobody else bothered to protect them.

Does anyone still doubt I'm town?

In fact, I really disliked the fact you acted so indignant in the last 24 hours about the fact no one protected Marmot and NAA. They weren't confirmed town or anything, there is no reason I should have known they were going to be targeted that night. It feel like fake indignation to me frankly.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:36 pm I do, because I don't know which of you is town right now. Urist last post looks very towny to me, even though I can't figure out what she is saying exactly.

But that could be faked, most hosts provide copies of Town role PMs to the wolves to ensure their private PMs won't be used for scum hunting.

Meeehhhhh.

I also think Urist looks towny from last post even though I'm completely not getting it. Also, I think your posts look pretty fencesitty here.

Do you have any completed town and wolf games we can use to try to read you?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:38 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:22 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:22 pm Idk game is hard I feel like if I went back and read isos I could probably sort it but I dont have that kinda time

I've been mostly trying to show I'm town lately. I think bussing Guillo and falcon wasn't needed here if I was wolf and I felt I also had a genuine reaction to Marmot and NAA dying because I was too busy protecting you and nobody else bothered to protect them.

Does anyone still doubt I'm town?

In fact, I really disliked the fact you acted so indignant in the last 24 hours about the fact no one protected Marmot and NAA. They weren't confirmed town or anything, there is no reason I should have known they were going to be targeted that night. It feel like fake indignation to me frankly.

I don't think I would've needed to push it that far. Also, my mood at the start of day 3 really matches with someone who just saw their top two townreads die and I wished they were protected.

It's been a long time since I played, and I am under a deadline so I'm not going back to search up my past games. My proudest scum win was DeathNote, And I dunno about town wins, there are plenty, but I feel like I am better wolf than town usually because I am clueless.

Just look in the Hall of Fame at older games and I'm sure you'll find a town game I won

I'm going back to work. Right now I lean Urist, I think Creature is being manipulative here. Bussing Guillo and falcon serves exactly the purpose for this moment, to say what you are saying now.

However, Urist wanted to avoid shooting falcon and let Dunya replace him. If Urist knew falcon would have been shot would that have changed it.

I still lean Creature wolf atm, but fuck if I feel confident of anything after all is said and done.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:22 pm Idk game is hard I feel like if I went back and read isos I could probably sort it but I dont have that kinda time

You'll probably have to read ISOs at this point because the last wolf should be quite equipped to project themselves here considering all they have to do is not get shot here.

I think day 4 was my best day this game because I immediately caught two wolves even though I went in doubt at the end of day 4. Day 5 was really lame because everybody wanted falcon. Day 6 was even lamer because no one really tried to figure out the last wolf.

Perhaps days 1, 2 and 3 are important to check because wolves couldn't be sure who was endgaming here. I think day 2 onwards the wolves were trying to powerwolf into endgaming together.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:25 pm I remember reading DrWilgy, Marmot and Urist town from last EOD.

ftr I townread them because I saw the "Who is online" session list after NANOOK shot and before Michelle was flipped.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:45 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:22 pm Idk game is hard I feel like if I went back and read isos I could probably sort it but I dont have that kinda time

You'll probably have to read ISOs at this point because the last wolf should be quite equipped to project themselves here considering all they have to do is not get shot here.

Yeah F3 is the worst for making reads on

i could further explain why it's a bad idea to claim but that would be gamethrowing

drwilgy is online now therefore he is town

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:46 pm Guillotine is mafia

How did you immediately come to this right after Guillotine was on Michelle?

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:51 pm i could further explain why it's a bad idea to claim but that would be gamethrowing

Ok, maybe claiming won't be necessary. Though, it's still urgent for NANOOK to get it right today because I have very low faith we can save the game during the night.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:52 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:46 pm Guillotine is mafia

How did you immediately come to this right after Guillotine was on Michelle?

remembering things that happened more than 24h ago is not really my strong suit.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:48 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:08 pm I take the falcon read back.

I would shoot Sig, creature or spacedaisy

Hi @Spacedaisy nice to finally get a game with you. Welcome to The Syndicate, Nanook has a gun... He went out onto his front porch and shouted NRA... And they delivered a gun within 10 minutes.

Nice to play with you. I appreciate the welcome, but perhaps I should to introduce myself, I'm one of the two founders of The Syndicate.

Also, shooting me would be a mistake as I'm not a trash panda.

I thought I was reading Creature civ, but the sudden turn and claim to be suspicious of mech talk hiding trash pandas has me considering they wee in the thick of it. I'd put my vote there.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:05 am

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:35 pm [VOTE: Spacedaisy] aubergine

You know what gets me about you? You went one about mechanics. Then you turned around and said you thought talking mechanics was a way mafia was hiding (after nearly 2/3 of your posts were about mechanics). And now you are saying you want to lynch someone who wasn't all about mechanics. You are shady as hell my friend.

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

P.S. Not being mechanics minded and not being math minded are two different things. I was engaged in the mechanics conversation. I deferred in the end to someone who is math minded.

Is this progression natural?

Looking at the start of day 2 now, Spacedaisy's push on me looks a lot like falcon's push on me at the start of day 4.

I feel like I became wolf's punching bag this game because I remember Guillo pushing me for bad reasons and throwing "creature has towny and wolfy posts" hedgey bullshit and falcon with his non-case comprised entirely of cowboy lines on me. Wouldn't surprise me if Spacedaisy's push on me was preplanned on wolfchat.

I feel like it's probably urist but the nks are weird if so. I'm gonna blame star in post if it is. I'm honestly not sure creature can manage this kind of game as scum, if im underestimating him then gg.

If this shot is wrong, town left alive flips a coin between saving themselves and saving me, if you still have a save (presumably game ends if you don't)


@dunya shoot daisy plz

I'm still town

Gonna cry if this is wrong.

Start crying

I blame @NotAnAxehole exclusively

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:59 pm I blame @NotAnAxehole exclusively

Me too for everything always

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:59 pm I blame @NotAnAxehole exclusively

i don't blame anyone, my play was truly top-tier this game

Gg

I think town concensus was correct exactly 0 days.

spec chat?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:18 pm I think town concensus was correct exactly 0 days.

It was correct the day falcon was getting modkilled, which was entirely unhelpful since, ya know, he was getting modkilled

On day 3 no one protected nook. That was the wildest shit.

On d3 guil submitted a nook kill but urist talked him out of it

I laughed