The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:00 am**

For me it depends on how others perform the rest of the day. There are a few people I want to hear from but I mean I have taken part in much worse lynches day one then perfectly null people so there are worse fates.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:01 am**

I don't actually consider him null. I think his play has been specifically wolfy. Like someone who randed mafia and was like "I have no idea what I am doing". Vs. a town who would be asking us things.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:01 am I don't actually consider him null. I think his play has been specifically wolfy. Like someone who randed mafia and was like "I have no idea what I am doing". Vs. a town who would be asking us things.

I can see this. For me that instinct is countered by people usually trying as mafia for their team mates who are relying on them. It gives me a bad feeling thinking over the state of the thread in regards to the slot but it's not like it is fun trying to pitch for someone who isn't trying.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:01 am I don't actually consider him null. I think his play has been specifically wolfy. Like someone who randed mafia and was like "I have no idea what I am doing". Vs. a town who would be asking us things.

this is incorrect, they would not do this as either alignment

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am**

Porscha said she would have reads by now.

I also would like wagons to be fun and not just a runaway on tommt

[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am**

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:01 am I don't actually consider him null. I think his play has been specifically wolfy. Like someone who randed mafia and was like "I have no idea what I am doing". Vs. a town who would be asking us things.
this is incorrect, they would not do this as either alignment

so they are just doing what you expect?

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:05 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:38 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:40 pm Sorting as of rn

Town:
Mac
Sabi
Ender

Not really worried about rn:
Sean
Nook
Axe
Vivax
Wilgy

Just null:
Lucy

PoE:
Achro
Flanders
Rondo
Tommy
Porscha

Achro/Porscha not teamed
Well.... I am both happy and upset I am in the POE. Here I thought we had good vibes last night. What changed from that to me in the POE? Seems kinda out of nowhere. Please tell me why I am wolf?

Why are you and Ender not paired and both wolf covering each other?

If you had to push Lucy up or down where does she go?

Because I have a town role pm

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:05 am**

noting rondo has made a conscious decision to not answer my most recent question so he is now choppable again

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:06 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:01 am I don't actually consider him null. I think his play has been specifically wolfy. Like someone who randed mafia and was like "I have no idea what I am doing". Vs. a town who would be asking us things.
this is incorrect, they would not do this as either alignment
so they are just doing what you expect?

no, it’s disinterest cause i bullied them into it

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:08 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:01 am I don't actually consider him null. I think his play has been specifically wolfy. Like someone who randed mafia and was like "I have no idea what I am doing". Vs. a town who would be asking us things.
I can see this. For me that instinct is countered by people usually trying as mafia for their team mates who are relying on them. It gives me a bad feeling thinking over the state of the thread in regards to the slot but it's not like it is fun trying to pitch for someone who isn't trying.

if they were comfortable they’d have more messages than you with similar content, as either alignment. as livechat players playing in the same community of 20 at a time between 40 people for 2 years straight requires a WIDE range to not be instantly mets read

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:08 am**

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:06 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:01 am I don't actually consider him null. I think his play has been specifically wolfy. Like someone who randed mafia and was like "I have no idea what I am doing". Vs. a town who would be asking us things.
this is incorrect, they would not do this as either alignment
so they are just doing what you expect?
no, it’s disinterest cause i bullied them into it

okay i'll vote elsewhere

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:10 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:05 am noting rondo has made a conscious decision to not answer my most recent question so he is now choppable again

busy at work not not answering just not free

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:11 am**

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:08 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:04 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:01 am I don't actually consider him null. I think his play has been specifically wolfy. Like someone who randed mafia and was like "I have no idea what I am doing". Vs. a town who would be asking us things.
I can see this. For me that instinct is countered by people usually trying as mafia for their team mates who are relying on them. It gives me a bad feeling thinking over the state of the thread in regards to the slot but it's not like it is fun trying to pitch for someone who isn't trying.
if they were comfortable they’d have more messages than you with similar content, as either alignment. as livechat players playing in the same community of 20 at a time between 40 people for 2 years straight requires a WIDE range to not be instantly mets read

Would love to see this tbh. I get being uncomfortable in new places but still kinda not fun to witness.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:11 am**

Rondo is still in wolfish meta enough I'd be okay with him going over. But I'd prefer Porscha or another of my POE first tbh

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:11 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:10 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:05 am noting rondo has made a conscious decision to not answer my most recent question so he is now choppable again
busy at work not not answering just not free

Scummoned gg

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:14 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:11 am Rondo is still in wolfish meta enough I'd be okay with him going over. But I'd prefer Porscha or another of my POE first tbh

negative

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:15 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:14 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:11 am Rondo is still in wolfish meta enough I'd be okay with him going over. But I'd prefer Porscha or another of my POE first tbh
negative

Ah, so you think you're in a townish meta?

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:16 am**

Stand by. I have locked the thread.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:20 am**

Tommy has been killed by the host. They were:

Vanilla mafioso.

Please do not discuss this moving forward in the game. Day 1 has ended, and Day 2 will begin at 7:00 PM EDT on Friday the 5th, just under 18 hours from now.

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Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:00 pm**

Content creators across the ASMR community pride themselves (whether validly or not) on the good will, camaraderie, and lack of toxicity between their channels and followers. Really, such a thing should be an obvious goal for any community of anything, but they do a decent job of supporting each other. Sometimes, they may even support each other too well. What's the harm in a little drama once in a while?

I mean, what happens when everyone tingles? We just go to sleep? That's it?

Night 1 has ended.

Nobody has died.

Day 2 begins now and will last 48 hours until 7:00 PM EDT on Sunday the 7th of August. We now have majority hammer vote, which is set to half the living player set plus one: currently 8 votes.

Note: all previous end-of-day polls will be saved in the first post of the thread. Day 1 is already posted.

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Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:03 pm**

Only new entries to my list are Mac and Lucy being spewed clear by the flip as I haven't done a re read of specific interactions. Hopefully me having a lot of people discuss Tommy yesterday will bear additional fruit.

Great start though x)

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:06 pm**

why didn’t mafia kill

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:07 pm**

I believe there are many setups where a doctor or other protection can be employed to save someone. My random guess is you or Mac tbh

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:08 pm**

OH YEAH THIS ISN’T MOUNTAINOUS

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:11 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:07 pm I believe there are many setups where a doctor or other protection can be employed to save someone. My random guess is you or Mac tbh

probably mac, no way doc goes on me and mafia also go on me

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:11 pm**

Well I look like shit since I was offering Tommy a D1 pass so I accept all scumread over that.

Vivax looks great tho since he didn't seem partnered with Tommy.

I have a lot more feelings about this when I get home.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:12 pm**

So Achro and Kuti were trying to lull me out of the Tommy SR. I won't make an alignment read into that.
I guess I'll tackle the Rondo mistery again today.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:13 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:11 pm Well I look like shit since I was offering Tommy a D1 pass so I accept all scumread over that.

Vivax looks great tho since he didn't seem partnered with Tommy.

I have a lot more feelings about this when I get home.

You think so? I feel like there is a lot of equity on either side. I think there is plenty of room for wolves to bus Tommy day one given how not into it he was. I don't think a simple pass/not pass is likely to give a lot of results.

But now that I am looking for 11 town and only 2 wolves I have every reason to be mostly extremely trusting given the percentages.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:15 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:13 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:11 pm Well I look like shit since I was offering Tommy a D1 pass so I accept all scumread over that.

Vivax looks great tho since he didn't seem partnered with Tommy.

I have a lot more feelings about this when I get home.
You think so? I feel like there is a lot of equity on either side. I think there is plenty of room for wolves to bus Tommy day one given how not into it he was. I don't think a simple pass/not pass is likely to give a lot of results.

But now that I am looking for 11 town and only 2 wolves I have every reason to be mostly extremely trusting given the percentages.

what’s ur ssn

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:15 pm**

Nice

Mac lock town

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:15 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:13 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:11 pm Well I look like shit since I was offering Tommy a D1 pass so I accept all scumread over that.

Vivax looks great tho since he didn't seem partnered with Tommy.

I have a lot more feelings about this when I get home.
You think so? I feel like there is a lot of equity on either side. I think there is plenty of room for wolves to bus Tommy day one given how not into it he was. I don't think a simple pass/not pass is likely to give a lot of results.

But now that I am looking for 11 town and only 2 wolves I have every reason to be mostly extremely trusting given the percentages.

Who do you think you would never eliminate this D2 coming into the game?

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:17 pm**

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:15 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:13 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:11 pm Well I look like shit since I was offering Tommy a D1 pass so I accept all scumread over that.

Vivax looks great tho since he didn't seem partnered with Tommy.

I have a lot more feelings about this when I get home.
You think so? I feel like there is a lot of equity on either side. I think there is plenty of room for wolves to bus Tommy day one given how not into it he was. I don't think a simple pass/not pass is likely to give a lot of results.

But now that I am looking for 11 town and only 2 wolves I have every reason to be mostly extremely trusting given the percentages.
Who do you think you would never eliminate this D2 coming into the game?

Can you Rephrase the question? What do you mean by coming into the game

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:19 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:17 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:15 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:13 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:11 pm Well I look like shit since I was offering Tommy a D1 pass so I accept all scumread over that.

Vivax looks great tho since he didn't seem partnered with Tommy.

I have a lot more feelings about this when I get home.
You think so? I feel like there is a lot of equity on either side. I think there is plenty of room for wolves to bus Tommy day one given how not into it he was. I don't think a simple pass/not pass is likely to give a lot of results.

But now that I am looking for 11 town and only 2 wolves I have every reason to be mostly extremely trusting given the percentages.
Who do you think you would never eliminate this D2 coming into the game?
Can you Rephrase the question? What do you mean by coming into the game

Sure. Who are your strongest townreads?
Coming into the game refers to any new thoughts you might have developed about it during the night phase with tommy's flip in mind.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:24 pm**

Ahh. Well I opened with lucy and Mac being spewed.

Without reading day again yet as I have been a bit busy since flip I still have ender ans seanzie looking very good. Rondo too from their game overall but also their interactions with Tommy. A lot of people need to get their thoughts out there a bit more or someone can just clear them from meta I suppose.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:28 pm**

Oh yeah porscha seemed to be mocking Tommy but also now with the benefit of what happened it is possible that's just a scum buddy being mad at Tommy lol. I thought it felt unaligned though but she still needs to answer about Mac.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:44 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:14 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:36 pm I haven't really liked the thread state around Tommy tbh. It's like, people were accusing him of being frozen for being gone like seven hours lol. It felt very iffy and there really seems to be this group think. Like, it's pretty much always wolf siding to an incredible degree.

If tommy is town: well obviously this is bad
if tommy is wolf: then when they 'settle in' to FM they should still have a lot of tells over time, right? Like, no matter how intelligent you are or gifted at discord mafia if you roll wolf your first time it is going to show. He wants some data to feed him, I don't mind holding off and seeing what he can produce. His content so far has been 'not good' but I think people leaping to make it alignment dependent feel craven tbh
I disagree, if you are good at one form of mafia, forum wolfing is just as easy as your regular form of wolfing. New people shouldnt get a pass because they are new if they have 2+ years experience

That said I am still catching up so maybe Tommy has redeemed themselves

I would really like to know how Tommy had redeemed themselves at the time when Rondo was catching up, because I had the opposite reaction to that thought after thinking the same thing regarding the free pass until Achro&Kuti came along and begged for not voting them out of noob compassion or smth. No regrets on falling for that AtE.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:10 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:06 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:00 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:58 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:49 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.
[VOTE: Vivax ] aubergine
Disagreeing is one thing, wolfreading me for valid logic another.
Ironically these are the most effective posts to avoid a backlash
from a player who was propagated to be a combatant
Its not the logic I dislike its the timing and the insinuation behind it
Insinuation? It looks like Porscha is taunting Tommy's ignorance of who you are in forum mafia.
Though I can see an angle where Tommy feigned that because it comes across as Cheeky.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:07 am
Tommy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:30 pm Ohhh rondo is a player
how much FM have you played
And I assume there could be a motivation for Porscha to get on your good side while making this post, or looking like that's the intention.
The mockery of lack of information is not a townie thing to do in my books.
Then I guess I was assigning malice when there was none

WOLVES DON'T NEED TO POCKET OTHER WOLVES?
Would be funny if it turned out to have happened between Porscha and Rondo in this game. With Porscha pocketing Rondo in case it wasn't clear.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:49 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:46 am Wolves don't need to pocket other wolves is a conspiracy theory tbh
But if Porscha W will be an interesting controversial angle to check for spew.
[VOTE: Vivax ] aubergine

Looks like Rondo might have found the thought funny as well. Or not so.

Dropping this and moving on...Feedback much appreciated. More on the first quote, the second is for the memes.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:49 pm**

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:12 pm So Achro and Kuti were trying to lull me out of the Tommy SR. I won't make an alignment read into that.
I guess I'll tackle the Rondo mistery again today.

I didn't talk you out of a sr. I said he needed a D1 pass. Don't put words in my mouth

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:51 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:17 am
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:15 am [VOTE: Tommy] aubergine

Thread flow or he's frozen or whatever

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:14 am I haven't really read the game, and I'm probably not going to for a while, so enjoy that.

I have Sabi and Mac as town. These are both vibes and what kind of energy they are bringing. Mac is more based in meta, which I do think I have at least a decent track record of picking up on. For Sabi, I just liked their start and their impatience, them talking about wanting to do better. So there are my friends now. Will see if that turns out good or not.
prime wolf bussing timing [VOTE: Dizzy ] aubergine

big lol

From Tommy reedemed into Tommy getting bussed

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

And I'm always afraid of missing something if I just go by ISOs

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:51 pm**

Rondo was not stating tommy had redeemed themselves. He was positing that maybe he did in posts he had yet to see.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:52 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:49 pm
Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:12 pm So Achro and Kuti were trying to lull me out of the Tommy SR. I won't make an alignment read into that.
I guess I'll tackle the Rondo mistery again today.
I didn't talk you out of a sr. I said he needed a D1 pass. Don't put words in my mouth

Yeah he got a VIP pass from the host it seems. All good.
Sorry if I made you feel that way.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:55 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:51 pm Rondo was not stating tommy had redeemed themselves. He was positing that maybe he did in posts he had yet to see.

So he'd rather vote the busser than vote Tommy? I don't see the motivation behind that,yet.
I'll consider what you're saying, because you seem well informed.

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:58 pm**

I'm still not home yet but yea it being a mod kill doesn't give us that much info if he was bussed or not.

Do we just treat this as a d1

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:59 pm**

Well for rondo to be wolf Tommy had to make that early comment about rondo where he was like 'what's rondo' or whatever and I have no idea if he would do that when aligned for the brief period he was posting.

Which is possible. Also I don't know who it was but someone called Tommy frozen after 8 hours of him being gone. It was like 10am my time and I was like 'what?' I will look to see if that was someone in my poe as THAT comes off as tmi

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:01 pm**

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:15 am [VOTE: Tommy] aubergine

Thread flow or he's frozen or whatever

Oh yeah so uh... Tommy had been gone for 8 hours at this point in someone sleeping

My first instinct is rondo was just right and this is a bus lol

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:01 pm**

tommy was not bussed (at minimum he didn’t go along with it)

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:01 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:01 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:15 am [VOTE: Tommy] aubergine

Thread flow or he's frozen or whatever

Oh yeah so uh... Tommy had been gone for 8 hours at this point in someone sleeping

My first instinct is rondo was just right and this is a bus lol

Ie someone sleeping*

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:01 pm**

i’d also like to say rondo is cleared 100%

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:02 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:01 pm tommy was not bussed (at minimum he didn’t go along with it)

Oh yeah I don't think Tommy went along with anything lol

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:02 pm**

he’d never say that as scum, 100% unintentional clearing

Posted: **Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:02 pm**

@Tommy - posts - Killed by the host on Day 1 - Vanilla mafioso

This line is good enough to be put on a resume

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