The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:04 pm**

since mac is here I will flash wagon mac.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:05 pm**

Ended achro and I just got off yeeting jack

Hes not immortal, it can be done

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:05 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:04 pm since mac is here I will flash wagon mac.

how sexy and dangerous of you

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:06 pm**

Also I am more open to lynching 0 posters on my first day in a game than I have ever been in my life.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:06 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:05 pm Ended achro and I just got off yeeting jack

Hes not immortal, it can be done

So you can say,,,,,, you're jacking off.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:06 pm**

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:07 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:06 pm Also I am more open to lynching 0 posters on my first day in a game than I have ever been in my life.

not sexy at all

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:07 pm**

@MacDougall have you caught up grumpy gills?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:07 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:06 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

*makes a note*

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:08 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:01 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:59 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:29 pm Also as I tried to explain in ASMR I don't really mind being wolf read. I mind being wolf read for what feels like bad reasons.

All reasons check out so far as to why people are suspicious except for HK who has no stated reason and might just be mocking me at this point.
the best/closest I can come to articulating the read is that you're too laissez faire about the way you're being read. There's very little bite in your interactions surrounding how people are reading you and while I can totally grok changing up style and tone and methodology because lord knows I do that constantly it still doesn't quite sit right with me. It's a big reason why I'm not articulating it and/or pushing you with it because I'm not sure it can be trusted or whether or not I'm working off of outdated information/experience, or if it's just a tonal/style shift that I'm having a hard time adjusting to.

Which is why my conclusion is to sit on the read, remind others I have it on occasion, and see what people make of it. If I'm getting consistent push-back on the read form people I town read might mean I'm more likely than not to be wrong. If the push-back comes from people I'm suspect of there's a road of engagement there that I can work with, and finally if I'm not getting much push-back at all from either camp I assume I'm the wolf and about to die
Would you be able to explain your read on me any more than just vibes?

I can try. I like reading your posts, they're enjoyable. Not in a funny way, not in a "this person is posting in a way that personally jibes with me" but in a kind of "this person is playing the game of mafia well and doesn't appear to have any pre-set agenda of what they're trying to do" sort of way.
It feels like your intent is pure. The words you post move the game forward, they're inquisitive, and the responses you're giving to people aren't twisting things they're saying to fit a POV you're pushing.

This post is goat tier:

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:15 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:24 am lol @ lilypetal silently moving her vote off achro
Of course I did, thread went in such a way that I no longer scum read him. I agreed with your hypothesis and i know I'm town so i put a pressure vote on esooa.

It wouldn't have been silent but I don't rly know how to make the vote show up in thread
idk how you got here and pretty weird you do right after Mac decides to come into thread like he did

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:07 pm @MacDougall have you caught up grumpy gills?

I read my pings. I am now doing my morning poop.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm**

To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:07 pm @MacDougall have you caught up grumpy gills?
I read my pings. I am now doing my morning poop.

Tell me more about your bowel movements.

Anyway what are your reads looking like after you catch up

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.

I don't like this post.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm**

Who faked the red check?

Poll runs till Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:00 amPlease note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.Please note that results are sorted by decreasing number of votes received.
You may select 1 option

EnderWiggin

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19% Voters: DrWilgy, hollowkatt, PorschaMacDougall

2

13% Voters: Esooa, Achromaticsantygrass

2

13% Voters: EnderWiggin, SabiplzAlison (Host/Spec)

2

13% Voters: Scotty, JaggedJimmyJayEsooa

1

6% Voters: Lilypetalouted wolf

1

6% Voters: santygrassNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

1

6% Voters: MacDougallAchromatic

1

6% Voters: risiinq-Lilypetal

1

6% Voters: outed wolfNeon

1

6% Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOMENobody! (Sleep)

1

6% Voters: NeonPorscha

0

No votes Voters: Nonerisiinq-

0

No votes Voters: NoneSabiplz

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No votes Voters: NoneDrWilgy

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No votes Voters: NoneJackofhearts2005

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No votes Voters: Nonehollowkatt

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No votes Voters: None Total votes: 16

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.
I don't like this post.

*rolls eyes*

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.
I don't like this post.

flash wagon achro?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:11 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:08 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:01 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:59 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:29 pm Also as I tried to explain in ASMR I don't really mind being wolf read. I mind being wolf read for what feels like bad reasons.

All reasons check out so far as to why people are suspicious except for HK who has no stated reason and might just be mocking me at this point.
the best/closest I can come to articulating the read is that you're too laissez faire about the way you're being read. There's very little bite in your interactions surrounding how people are reading you and while I can totally grok changing up style and tone and methodology because lord knows I do that constantly it still doesn't quite sit right with me. It's a big reason why I'm not articulating it and/or pushing you with it because I'm not sure it can be trusted or whether or not I'm working off of outdated information/experience, or if it's just a tonal/style shift that I'm having a hard time adjusting to.

Which is why my conclusion is to sit on the read, remind others I have it on occasion, and see what people make of it. If I'm getting consistent push-back on the read form people I town read might mean I'm more likely than not to be wrong. If the push-back comes from people I'm suspect of there's a road of engagement there that I can work with, and finally if I'm not getting much push-back at all from either camp I assume I'm the wolf and about to die
Would you be able to explain your read on me any more than just vibes?
I can try. I like reading your posts, they're enjoyable. Not in a funny way, not in a "this person is posting in a way that personally jibes with me" but in a kind of "this person is playing the game of mafia well and doesn't appear to have any pre-set agenda of what they're trying to do" sort of way.
It feels like your intent is pure. The words you post move the game forward, they're inquisitive, and the responses you're giving to people aren't twisting things they're saying to fit a POV you're pushing.

This post is goat tier:
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:15 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:40 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:24 am lol @ lilypetal silently moving her vote off achro
Of course I did, thread went in such a way that I no longer scum read him. I agreed with your hypothesis and i know I'm town so i put a pressure vote on esooa.

It wouldn't have been silent but I don't rly know how to make the vote show up in thread
idk how you got here and pretty weird you do right after Mac decides to come into thread like he did

Alright. I suppose that's about as expected which doesn't really help me with solving you much lol

Kinda felt like the earlier just vibes town read was maybe trying to get on my good side though, but it's justified ig

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:12 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.
I don't like this post.

Why not?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:12 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:07 pm @MacDougall have you caught up grumpy gills?
I read my pings. I am now doing my morning poop.
Tell me more about your bowel movements.

Anyway what are your reads looking like after you catch up

pretty bad

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:13 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:06 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Confused badger noises

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:13 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.
I don't like this post.
flash wagon achro?

Can yall keep me away from both of yalls flash wagon kink.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:13 pm**

I know your range is large Esooa which is why I'm refraining from reading you on where you're going and more about how you're getting there because I feel like that's a more accurate way of discerning alignments.
Anyone can write a good case as either alignment, it's about how you got to that read or push or action and then what did you do with it afterwards

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:14 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:06 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine
Confused badger noises

can you enunciate the sound for me?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:14 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:12 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.
I don't like this post.
Why not?

See note about the weird forced "im a wolf" jokes I have.

It is giving me weird pings.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:16 pm**

Its pretty common for Lily to do those kind of jokes/post tho. Dont think they are forced fwiw

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:16 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:14 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:12 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.
I don't like this post.
Why not?
See note about the weird forced "im a wolf" jokes I have.

It is giving me weird pings.

Can you explain this more? I was pointing out that Lily didn't signal in thread when she voted me or when she unvoted me so someone should let her know to do that and I don't think the whole 'quietly unvote' is AI in any way due to how she voted in the first place. Did you think this was an attempt at humor? ;o

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:19 pm**

Also not signaling the votes is what cool kids do. Also Idk whats the code to make it look like a vote

[v]Outed Wolf[/v]

[VOTE: Outed Wolf] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:19 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:06 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine
Confused badger noises
can you enunciate the sound for me?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:19 pm**

Now I know

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:22 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:16 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:14 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:12 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.
I don't like this post.
Why not?
See note about the weird forced "im a wolf" jokes I have.

It is giving me weird pings.
Can you explain this more? I was pointing out that Lily didn't signal in thread when she voted me or when she unvoted me so someone should let her know to do that and I don't think the whole 'quietly unvote' is AI in any way due to how she voted in the first place. Did you think this was an attempt at humor? ;o

I might have misread this and thought you meant you were wolf signaling lily about her votes and not actually about posting vote signals.

It's been a long day

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:24 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:22 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:16 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:14 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:12 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:10 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:09 pm To be fair to Lily her vote on me was pretty much as silent as the unvote.

We need to work on that whole signaling thing for her.
I don't like this post.
Why not?
See note about the weird forced "im a wolf" jokes I have.

It is giving me weird pings.
Can you explain this more? I was pointing out that Lily didn't signal in thread when she voted me or when she unvoted me so someone should let her know to do that and I don't think the whole 'quietly unvote' is AI in any way due to how she voted in the first place. Did you think this was an attempt at humor? ;o
I might have misread this and thought you meant you were wolf signaling lily about her votes and not actually about posting vote signals.

It's been a long day

oic

Yes I feel like enough people are suspecting me in thread already, I am at the top of my own town list although I don't have the PM to prove it like I usually do.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:28 pm**

santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:19 pm Also not signaling the votes is what cool kids do. Also Idk whats the code to make it look like a vote

[v]Outed Wolf[/v]

[VOTE: Outed Wolf] aubergine

?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:29 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:14 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:06 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine
Confused badger noises
can you enunciate the sound for me?

I can do better

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:31 pm**

Guys you're prematurely flash wagoning

Don't be ashamed, it can happen to anyone, but if you want I have some pills I can sell you for the low low price of half off that will help you last longer and flash wagon later

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:33 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:27 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:24 pm I'm not really bothered by OW at all. Probably not someone I'd kill day 1 just for the heck of it either and I don't really know why Sabi is concerned about him considering he posted the exact same last game
What achro said. I recently lost to wolf visor and he pulled the whole: in not trying to be invested in this game schtick.

I mean I said that and still posted plenty. I also just played a game with you where I posted 30 times and got shot N1... so perhaps its NAI?

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:25 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:24 pm I'm not really bothered by OW at all. Probably not someone I'd kill day 1 just for the heck of it either and I don't really know why Sabi is concerned about him considering he posted the exact same last game
She just lost to wolf visor skating by for awhile.

I did not skate by. I wanted to (and def did on D3) but overall I did not skate by. Sorry I didn't post thousands of times.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:37 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:35 pm Achro you wolfed with visor.

Thots?
I think Visor intentionally doesn't really do a lot in order to keep himself unpolarized so it is hard for me to tell what's in his head. He bussed Heisen in our game so that's within range, but I don't really know how to read him early with his playstyle as I think that's kind of 'the point.'

I don't know how you can genuinely believe this after 1 game with me lol. I told you why I don't want to post as much, that's the reasoning. I beat some of the best villagers to ever play mafia recently with a 1000+ posting wolf game, so kindly take your polarisation comments elsewhere. I'm not sure why you brought up Heisen when I've made one vote and it is D1.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:36 pm**

Santy's posting is still wolfy.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:37 pm**

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:36 pm Santy's posting is still wolfy.

I agree

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:37 pm**

I was asked for thoughts and I gave them.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:39 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:37 pm I was asked for thoughts and I gave them.

Sure, I'm saying that the Heisen connection is a weird thing to say early D1.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:42 pm**

'What do you think of wolf visor'

'Well I know he can bus day 1 convincingly so that's on my mind when evaluating his play'

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:44 pm**

convincing bus

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:48 pm**

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:50 pm**

That said I am fine with Sant suspicion as they have not town told for me yet.

Also, Visor

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:54 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:11 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:08 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:04 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:04 am But on a serious note:

I'm not 100% accurate and I have some iffy D1's but on average my reads are pretty good and I'm consistently hitting mafia enough that Nanook has actually suggested voting me out if I don't find mafia by D3 before.
So explain to me your reads then.
Porscha and Lily are town because Fire Emblem Pact.

I mean they just post good.

Santy is wolf because his posts are bad. Literally nothing he's said drives game forward. The same reason I pegged him as mafia in his SF.

Also his attempt to copy my humour was insulting.

This is literally all the lucidity you get from me today, I'm going to spend the rest of the time with memes.
I just worry about lily after reading her wolf rand game. Can't trust her. I need more from her before I give her any sort of read hence why she's null.

Porscha is very much towny. Her push on achro seemed genuine and solvey. She has been trying to solve people and not trying to blanketly pocket them.

Santy is being weird. Part of me wants to give him space to get used to a new site but another part of me is like he's too good of a player to get space. Esp since his wolf range is good.

Give me memes.

You rand wolf one time and suddenly you're not obvtown enough...

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:58 pm**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:08 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:04 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 10:04 am But on a serious note:

I'm not 100% accurate and I have some iffy D1's but on average my reads are pretty good and I'm consistently hitting mafia enough that Nanook has actually suggested voting me out if I don't find mafia by D3 before.
So explain to me your reads then.
Porscha and Lily are town because Fire Emblem Pact.

I mean they just post good.

Santy is wolf because his posts are bad. Literally nothing he's said drives game forward. The same reason I pegged him as mafia in his SF.

Also his attempt to copy my humour was insulting.

This is literally all the lucidity you get from me today, I'm going to spend the rest of the time with memes.

A santy SR at this point in the game makes little sense to me. Up to this point he hasn't rly played at all of course he isn't moving the game forward. He was open about not having much time and needing to sleep. I guess in a thread full of relatively towny players we have to look at the ones not posting yet

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:03 pm**

Dont shield me lily you will look bad after I flip Wolf

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:04 pm**

Outed Wolf is still Outed Wolf too

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:04 pm**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:05 pm Oh and I am for sure 100% in my wolf range but also my wolf range is really big.

I don't think wilgy wants to read a nearly 20k post game, Sabi.

If I am alive at lylo having missed a lot you can just mercy kill me lol x)

the bolded concerns me b/c as a blanket theory I dont like when a town player would offer themselves up in lylo ; but additionally, you also said this same line of "if we get to lylo its ok if you vote me" cuz you did that last game as wolf

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:05 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:04 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:05 pm Oh and I am for sure 100% in my wolf range but also my wolf range is really big.

I don't think wilgy wants to read a nearly 20k post game, Sabi.

If I am alive at lylo having missed a lot you can just mercy kill me lol x)
the bolded concerns me b/c as a blanket theory I dont like when a town player would offer themselves up in lylo ; but additionally, you also said this same line of "if we get to lylo its ok if you vote me" cuz you did that last game as wolf

I am hopeful that the lol and face would indicate that I am not in fact ok with being killed at lylo.

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