Re: Landlord Legacy Listing - Day Two (2)
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:55 pm
my eyes are on lime coke tbh
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i’m just remaking my readslist and it’s useful for me to compare with my previous readslistWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 3:52 pmWhy did I get moved from a pool of players with 1 wolf to "town"?
You already said he was town for the reads list day 1 cuz he was "reading closely" and accused you of something you claim you didnt do
correct but i also hadn’t found him as town meaningfully and dropped him, that read was also heavily criticized which didn’t help. but now i’ve found him as town. he was bottom tier with lily in my first readslist cause it felt like he didn’t particularly have a worldview or many readsPorscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:04 pmYou already said he was town for the reads list day 1 cuz he was "reading closely" and accused you of something you claim you didnt do
You brought up "not attempting to benefit from her death" several times, but that doesn't mean that much to me. It's only been half a day, I wouldn't expect you to blast into the thread, telling us how towny this makes you look. I'm sure you would have some subtlety if you chose to try to benefit, like responding to others with the suggestion of a perspective.robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:58 pmnothing, the issue isn't so much the read, the reason i'm using logic here is because unlike n0 you have reasoning here which would catch wolves. everything beforehand was nonsense. but here the issue is that your read relies upon many things which don't apply. sure wolf theatre is good and can catapult people to towniness. but that's not what i've done or how i've handled lily at allLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:46 pmI did discuss the reasoning for wolf-you to call off the hit from Scotty. The information that you are experienced in the craft, specifically with Lily, doesn't make me less suspicious, you know? Like, ok, you guys are really good at it. You obviously know what +town points you expect me to hit, since you just stated them unbidden, so what's stopping wolf-you from setting it all up 'just so'?robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:41 pmyou’re not, lily just won an mu game after we distanced by theatre. in this case however i am town, and you’ve had a clever idea which probably would catch a wolf in a lot of scenarios. but you’re missing the forest for the trees. 1) read my iso and play independent of lily 2) notice that there’s a solid chance that she can be town 3) notice that i made many posts saying that i didn’t scumread lily and most importantly i made a post telling scotty that she should live 4) i’ve made no attempt to benefit off her death and give myself towncred
i've made no attempt to benefit off her death and i told scotty to let her live. this game is flipless. both of these points are extremely relevant because they give reasoning that theatre isn't necessary and shouldn't be done. imagine if your partner dies and the thread townreads them but scumreads a town.
in this case you've convinced yourself that lily was scum which is a logical leap in and of itself. and by extension have called me and her argument theatre, which is another logical leap. you must know that i haven't tried to benefit off her death and as a wolf i'd have sr her and would've aggressively taken credit, that's distancing and theatre. what happened in this game was not that
and as i've said you've begun ignoring everything else that i've done in this game in favor of my treatment and potential distancing from lily. which simply doesn't hold under scrutiny. i can explain more but i go to class ~now and no more access to latop. the issue is literally just that you've confirmation biased yourself into a world where i uniquely benefit from that's opposite to how i've played before and after her death
That's accurate, please give me a little more leeway next time because I think that might be my usual? I've been on hiatus for several years but I don't really ever enter the towncore early, f at all.robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:06 pmcorrect but i also hadn’t found him as town meaningfully and dropped him, that read was also heavily criticized which didn’t help. but now i’ve found him as town. he was bottom tier with lily in my first readslist cause it felt like he didn’t particularly have a worldview or many readsPorscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:04 pmYou already said he was town for the reads list day 1 cuz he was "reading closely" and accused you of something you claim you didnt do
Pyxxy subbed in for Seanzie and is still alive in the other current game. I'm willing to give them more time to get fully integrated.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:17 pm Wilgy and pyxxy are in a weird place for me where i don't think they're the scummiest of lurkers but I also don't see much from them. I get the feeling Wilgy could be town, but I remember him asking a couple of questions and less of a followup (might have just missed some responses if he actually did reply to everything). Pyxxy has been here, said something, I don't remember what, but it didn't ping me like their posts did in the two games where i correctly called them out as scum, so that's something, I guess. Still want more from him, but he's not my priority pick for today since there are worse slots.
How enigmatic. I thought he had some lie-detector role or something.
Great reasoning 10 out of 10WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:20 amBecause I don't currently townread you☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:19 amWhy am I scum?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:35 amPartly for reasons I listed in an above response to you - I don't trust my ability to read you, and you did have some towny points on D1.
And then adding the lily thing on top of that just kinda reinforces the idea that I don't need to focus on you today.
I don't have a full readlist nor do I plan on writing one, most people are null or flipflopping in and out of my PoE for lack of a better place to put them.
I'm no longer confident in town!Brad, though, and he's dropped down to a null because his lack of engagement despite being present is kind of concerning. I think Abbi could be scum but I'm not confident on that read. I think you have a decent chance to be town but I'm not 100% on that take as I said. I probably still wouldn't touch Bereft even though I think he's fallen off a bit in activity. I also still think boq and Porscha are both town.
Feel free to ask me about specific names, I wanted to format a proper readlist last night but got too
ah yes lie detect 3 opinionsLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:20 pmHow enigmatic. I thought he had some lie-detector role or something.
Yeah, I know pyxxy is a sub, that's why I'm fine with letting him live for another day.Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:18 pmPyxxy subbed in for Seanzie and is still alive in the other current game. I'm willing to give them more time to get fully integrated.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:17 pm Wilgy and pyxxy are in a weird place for me where i don't think they're the scummiest of lurkers but I also don't see much from them. I get the feeling Wilgy could be town, but I remember him asking a couple of questions and less of a followup (might have just missed some responses if he actually did reply to everything). Pyxxy has been here, said something, I don't remember what, but it didn't ping me like their posts did in the two games where i correctly called them out as scum, so that's something, I guess. Still want more from him, but he's not my priority pick for today since there are worse slots.
Wilgy does not have those excuses.
I mean I actively avoided that conversation during catch up to.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:21 amHe's doing stuff but he was not engaged in the discussion between boq/Porscha or lily/Robyn that were happening simultaneously. I was there and commenting on everything, Brad was there and memeing. I get that it's a Brad thing, but he was in the exact position scum would want to be in if the Porscha/boq debate was t/t.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:20 am Why me fry me
Also I think it's disingenuous to say Bread isn't doing much or engaged
I'm town and I didn't write one till this morning cause I had no information.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:22 amWould town!lily forget to leave a legacy?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 amWhy? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha
I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.
Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip
You can call me scum for it, I don't care. I don't actively scumread you but I think you have scum equity. I don't actively scumread anyone right now, so I'm operating off the "everyone who isn't towny is poe, including the nulls" plan.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:25 pmGreat reasoning 10 out of 10WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:20 amBecause I don't currently townread you☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:19 amWhy am I scum?WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:35 amPartly for reasons I listed in an above response to you - I don't trust my ability to read you, and you did have some towny points on D1.
And then adding the lily thing on top of that just kinda reinforces the idea that I don't need to focus on you today.
I don't have a full readlist nor do I plan on writing one, most people are null or flipflopping in and out of my PoE for lack of a better place to put them.
I'm no longer confident in town!Brad, though, and he's dropped down to a null because his lack of engagement despite being present is kind of concerning. I think Abbi could be scum but I'm not confident on that read. I think you have a decent chance to be town but I'm not 100% on that take as I said. I probably still wouldn't touch Bereft even though I think he's fallen off a bit in activity. I also still think boq and Porscha are both town.
Feel free to ask me about specific names, I wanted to format a proper readlist last night but got too
This is something I would say and than get called scum for saying
I don't get itEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:27 amIt means I was being funny.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:02 amI don't know what this meansEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:52 amFind out next time on Dragon Ball X to doubt☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:46 am
Am I a wolf in the we are arch nemesis' way or in the you actually think I'm a wolf wash
I would fuck one specific phone
Because we don't fucking know if you have any role-relevant information to share?? Sharing it is pro-town, and we can't claim in the thread, so writing at least that much in your legacy like Scotty did is the next best thing.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:27 pmI'm town and I didn't write one till this morning cause I had no information.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:22 amWould town!lily forget to leave a legacy?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 amWhy? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha
I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.
Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip
Why write a legacy to rehash what you've already said in thread.
"if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over." I don't understand this.robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:25 pmdon’t vote for me, the strict logic here is, if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over. i think you’re town and i think that you can catch wolves. i’m just not and tbh i don’t expect u to see otherwise
Absolutely zero of these day 1 legacies provided new and Intresting info except ig role claims. I'm town and I didn't write one lolWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:37 amMaybe it wouldn't normally be, but she was well aware that people were asking for her to be shot because she responded to them. I don't see why she would just not leave a legacy as town in a flipless game. I don't even care that she didn't leave legacy reads; she didn't tell us her role.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:36 amI mean. Yeah. I don't really have an argument in response. I just feel like lack of legacy probably isn't that strong a tell overall.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:33 amBut forgetting to leave a legacy when multiple people called for Scotty to vig her?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:26 amEntirely possible.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:22 amWould town!lily forget to leave a legacy?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 amWhy? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:11 am Shadow vote porscha
I was elated about actually getting her over then massively bummed to see scotty go over instead.
Theoretically possible scotty is mafia but it's hard to see a vengeful mafia making that shot tbh so I'm just treating him as a town flip
Also hi.
I have had a day. And I have 10 pages. And it's already 11pm. Chances of me fully catching up are slimish but I'm gonna give it a shot.
(Do we have any idea what night vote does @pyxxy? I meme voted for it because I thought Rondo was fucking around but now I realise it could be not.)
(Feel free to ask me questions until I inevitably succumb to sleep)
Just sharing your role can help.☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:27 pmWhy write a legacy to rehash what you've already said in thread.
Yeah so, write your role in your legacy, sheesh. That's all I'm asking people to do. If you're not town you don't have to comply☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:31 pmAbsolutely zero of these day 1 legacies provided new and Intresting info except ig role claims. I'm town and I didn't write one lolWindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:37 amMaybe it wouldn't normally be, but she was well aware that people were asking for her to be shot because she responded to them. I don't see why she would just not leave a legacy as town in a flipless game. I don't even care that she didn't leave legacy reads; she didn't tell us her role.EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:36 amI mean. Yeah. I don't really have an argument in response. I just feel like lack of legacy probably isn't that strong a tell overall.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:33 amBut forgetting to leave a legacy when multiple people called for Scotty to vig her?EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:26 amEntirely possible.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:22 amWould town!lily forget to leave a legacy?☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:27 am
Why? Not saying your wrong cause I have no idea and kinda am feeling like Scotty was actually town sadly but why wouldn't a wolf kill Lily?
Also hi.
I have had a day. And I have 10 pages. And it's already 11pm. Chances of me fully catching up are slimish but I'm gonna give it a shot.
(Do we have any idea what night vote does @pyxxy? I meme voted for it because I thought Rondo was fucking around but now I realise it could be not.)
(Feel free to ask me questions until I inevitably succumb to sleep)
if you vote for me you waste your vote because i never go over, that’s the rub, you ensure whoever i want to vote out goes out. like i’m not against working with you about anyone except my top town row on my post recent readslistLong Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:30 pm"if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over." I don't understand this.robyn wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:25 pmdon’t vote for me, the strict logic here is, if you do vote me and the vote is between me and someone else i never die and you ensure my vote (not yours) is the one that goes over. i think you’re town and i think that you can catch wolves. i’m just not and tbh i don’t expect u to see otherwise
Nanananana☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:29 pmI would fuck one specific phone
this joke is really funny if you understand it
Awwww I knew I loved youNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:42 amI mean game theory says kill them all if you're that confident in two among that fourEnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:57 am My brain theory rn has 2 wolves in WWA/Porscha/Lily/Abi and I keep changing my mind on which ones.
I'd personally remove abbi but![]()
I plan on looking at capes one of LC/Marmot theory before I vote. LC is looking fairly open and doesn’t seem to have an agenda, so I feel better about him than I did say 1.WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:14 pm If we're not voting lurkers because we want more info, I'd go for Abbi or Brad tbh, and if people are up for svs then I want a decent case on her.
If we're including lurkers, I'm fine with marmot and JOH because neither of them has produced any meaningful content.
Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:25 pmProbably because there's no actual reason to suspect me beyond my usual playstyle. Things have changed around here during my hiatus, apparently - when I left, players were getting more and more analytical, applying different logical methods and analysis with great success. Now, looks like it's mostly just "oh this player feels wolfy, I vote them" kind of stuff. Are Alison and JJJ both out of the game right now?
I cannot control the integrity of your memory, or Porscha's.
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:48 pmI'm also multitabling and trying to keep up with everything at onceBoquise wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:03 amI feel you.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:55 am Alright, ya'll. Here's the deal.
I'm not in a position to play well in this game. Open nights and no flips make things hard to begin with. Multitabling in a mash makes things significantly worse.
So what's gonna happen is that I'm gonna sheep people who ping me. I'm going to look at specific things that specific players ask me to look at. You can try to guide my ass into helping the town. You can try to catch mafia manipulating me into helping them. But I'm not gonna be super helpful on my own until my schedule clears up.
I don't wanna replace out because I like Rondo and I like alternative setups and I also think that I'm the kinda player who can do fuck all for three day phases, come in and do a ton of effort on D4 and actually help the town. If you wanna yeet me before that, that's understandable but here's hoping schedules work out or a friend decides to lead me to water.
I am tripletabling. And I absolutely hate multitabling so I am in pain
I should probably stop doing this, though