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Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 2)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:37 pm
by S~V~S
DharmaHelper wrote:S~V~S wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:S~V~S wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:S~V~S wrote:Ask me if Bass has fooled me in the past. Ask LC; he saw Bass totally schnocker me in The Island game.
There's a big difference between being fooled and actively, aggressively defending someone.
I wasn't aggressively defending him. I didn't suspect him. Or Bullz. Or BF. Totally different. You're reading into it. FAR into it.
I pointed out several instances wherein you were doing specifically that, so I have to disagree here. Also, nice try but Bullz/BF are irrelevant.
No, it isn't irrelevant. At one point they were toed, and it was a very tense last hour.
It's irrelevant because you weren't blatantly trying to defend BF or Bullz.
I wasn't blatantly defending anyone. I didn't think he was bad. I was wrong. But I am not his teammate.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 2)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:38 pm
by Roxy
FZ. wrote:Thanks for the answers Rox and Epig.
Epig, who are you looking at, now? I saw Timmer say he's not as suspicious of you. What are your thoughts on him? Do you still think he's worth lynching?
He should since he was driving the point home about Elo and how she was unlikely to be an old rogue.

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 2)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:07 pm
by DharmaHelper
In the event I am unable to continue to press my SVS suspicion for whatever reason, here it is as bare-bones yet comprehensive as I can make it:
1. SVS (to borrow a phrase) "glomped" onto FZ's questioning of my vote, which felt odd to me. Taken by itself it is not damning evidence however; SVS is 90% likely to jump down my throat at any given game for any given reason. When I looked into it, that cracked the suspicion wide open for me.
2. SVS Made several Pro-Bass posts. She tried to downplay these as instead "not particularly suspicious of Bass" posts. As I pointed out, she called him "civvie-ish", called the lynch against him sketchy several times (awful, not feeling it, etc), and outright advocated on his behalf with regards to TH. These are not the actions of someone who considers Bass "not particularly suspect". Her downplaying of these remarks rings untrue to me. For example, she would have us believe that calling Bass's actions "civvie-ish" wasn't meant to imply that she thought he was a civ. Well, that's just plain susp-ish.
I've pulled several quotes already, and highlighted a lot of what I've talked about in this post, so I encourage you to go back and look at those if you have any questions regarding what it is SVS did and did not say.
In closing, There are two scenarios I can see that account for SVS's behavior.
1. She is Blacksmith and either recruited Bass N1 or planned to recruit him after seeing what Timmer pointed out
2. She is bad and wanted to keep Bass alive, so that they could get recruited together down the line.
Re: Flash Mafia Polls
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:27 pm
by Mister Rearranger
AceofSpaces
1
Black Rock (21) 5%
Bass_the_Clever
8
timmer (7), Turnip Head (8), DharmaHelper (9), FZ. (14), Bullzeye (15), Roxy (18), Long Con (19), Sophie (20) 38%
BirdwithTeeth
0
No votes
Black Rock
0
No votes
blindfaeth
2
rabbit8 (4), AceofSpaces (10) 10%
Bullzeye
6
blindfaeth (2), Metalmarsh89 (6), Epignosis (11), Soneji (13), Spacedaisy (16), Bass_the_Clever (17) 29%
DharmaHelper
0
No votes
Elohcin
0
No votes
Epignosis
0
No votes
FZ.
0
No votes
ika
0
No votes
Long Con
0
No votes
Made
0
No votes
Metalmarsh89
0
No votes
rabbit8
0
No votes
reywaS
0
No votes
Roxy
0
No votes
Soneji
0
No votes
Sophie
0
No votes
Spacedaisy
0
No votes
S~V~S
0
No votes
Turnip Head
1
S~V~S (12) 5%
Dial M for Monkey (Host, Mod, Nons, Dead Friends)
3
Mister Rearranger (1), thellama73 (3), MovingPictures07 (5) 14%
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Night 2)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:11 pm
by Mister Rearranger
Night 2: A Curious Case
For most of the night, the Central City precinct was silent. Detective Singh wondered if the city's problems had sorted themselves out. One of the notorious new criminals in town had been taken care of, maybe the rest had fallen victim to similar fates?
Just then, Singh was startled by a lud thud. He walked over to the department's front door, where the noise had come from. Residue from a snowball plastered the glass. Outside, a figure was standing still. The detective wandered closer, surprised to see the man standing there had not thrown the snowball. He was frozen solid.
At Absolute Zero degrees, all kinetic energy halts. Muscles freeze and heartbeats cease. Detective Singh understood what had happened the second he tried to throw a blanket around Epignosis, when his body shattered into pebble-sized pieces.
This was definitely the work of Captain Cold's infamous weaponry. But why was he leaving a body for the police to find? It wasn't like him to kill unprovoked. Then again, lately it seemed like the Rogues, whose honorable code David had grown up hearing about, were not all who they seemed.
Epignosis has been killed.
It is now Day 3. You have 48 hours to vote and PM movements to me!
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 2)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:13 pm
by S~V~S
DharmaHelper wrote:In the event I am unable to continue to press my SVS suspicion for whatever reason, here it is as bare-bones yet comprehensive as I can make it:
1. SVS (to borrow a phrase) "glomped" onto FZ's questioning of my vote, which felt odd to me. Taken by itself it is not damning evidence however; SVS is 90% likely to jump down my throat at any given game for any given reason. When I looked into it, that cracked the suspicion wide open for me.
2. SVS Made several Pro-Bass posts. She tried to downplay these as instead "not particularly suspicious of Bass" posts. As I pointed out, she called him "civvie-ish", called the lynch against him sketchy several times (awful, not feeling it, etc), and outright advocated on his behalf with regards to TH. These are not the actions of someone who considers Bass "not particularly suspect". Her downplaying of these remarks rings untrue to me. For example, she would have us believe that calling Bass's actions "civvie-ish" wasn't meant to imply that she thought he was a civ. Well, that's just plain susp-ish.
I've pulled several quotes already, and highlighted a lot of what I've talked about in this post, so I encourage you to go back and look at those if you have any questions regarding what it is SVS did and did not say.
In closing, There are two scenarios I can see that account for SVS's behavior.
1. She is Blacksmith and either recruited Bass N1 or planned to recruit him after seeing what Timmer pointed out
2. She is bad and wanted to keep Bass alive, so that they could get recruited together down the line.
OR I am a civ who did not think he was bad

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 2)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:14 pm
by DharmaHelper
S~V~S wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:In the event I am unable to continue to press my SVS suspicion for whatever reason, here it is as bare-bones yet comprehensive as I can make it:
1. SVS (to borrow a phrase) "glomped" onto FZ's questioning of my vote, which felt odd to me. Taken by itself it is not damning evidence however; SVS is 90% likely to jump down my throat at any given game for any given reason. When I looked into it, that cracked the suspicion wide open for me.
2. SVS Made several Pro-Bass posts. She tried to downplay these as instead "not particularly suspicious of Bass" posts. As I pointed out, she called him "civvie-ish", called the lynch against him sketchy several times (awful, not feeling it, etc), and outright advocated on his behalf with regards to TH. These are not the actions of someone who considers Bass "not particularly suspect". Her downplaying of these remarks rings untrue to me. For example, she would have us believe that calling Bass's actions "civvie-ish" wasn't meant to imply that she thought he was a civ. Well, that's just plain susp-ish.
I've pulled several quotes already, and highlighted a lot of what I've talked about in this post, so I encourage you to go back and look at those if you have any questions regarding what it is SVS did and did not say.
In closing, There are two scenarios I can see that account for SVS's behavior.
1. She is Blacksmith and either recruited Bass N1 or planned to recruit him after seeing what Timmer pointed out
2. She is bad and wanted to keep Bass alive, so that they could get recruited together down the line.
OR I am a civ who did not think he was bad

You stuck your neck out for him too much.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Night 2)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:15 pm
by S~V~S
No more than I do for anyone I am not convinced is bad. I did not think any of the three was bvad, Indeed, I based my vote on my belief that he was not bad, lol.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:20 pm
by DharmaHelper
Vote=SVS
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:20 pm
by Epignosis
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:26 pm
by Mister Rearranger
I've not been ableto get 2 replies for replacements, so effective as of now, Bass shall be replacing birdwithteeth.
Take this as no indication of current alignment! Bass is a big Flash fan and has been begging me to let him sub in. I'm normally against subbing former players back in, but made a 1-time exception.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:26 pm
by S~V~S
DharmaHelper wrote: Vote=SVS
Have fun with that. You're wrong

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:35 pm
by Mister Rearranger
"It has come to my attention that reywaS (commonly known as Sawyer) has gotten his hands on some valuable machinery. If my informant is correct, should we trust him with such a thing?
He gets right on to the friction of the day"
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:46 pm
by DharmaHelper
Mister Rearranger wrote:"It has come to my attention that reywaS (commonly known as Sawyer) has gotten his hands on some valuable machinery. If my informant is correct, should we trust him with such a thing?
He gets right on to the friction of the day"

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:48 pm
by Mister Rearranger
All living players:
PM me a letter of your choice. The first letter I receive 2 of from 2 different players will be revealed in the roles!
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:57 pm
by Bass_the_Clever
Hello everyone.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:59 pm
by thellama73
I love the Flash way more than Bass. It should have been me!
Rezz please.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:00 pm
by Bass_the_Clever
thellama73 wrote:I love the Flash way more than Bass. It should have been me!
Rezz please.
Stop lying. lol
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:06 pm
by Marmot
timmer know where timmer'm going to vote today, so timmer'll go ahead and place timmer vote on timmer.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:41 pm
by Marmot
timmer've seen some good arguments otherwise, and timmer think timmer all did well lynching timmer yesterday, but timmer still think timmer should lynch timmer today.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:51 pm
by Spacedaisy
*votes LC*
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:36 pm
by Long Con
Why did you vote for me, Spacedaisy?
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:45 pm
by Spacedaisy
I think I made it clear over the night, I am not seeing civ LC so far. Therefore I voted you. Votes are changeable, so no reason to not vote it early
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:05 pm
by Long Con
Fair enough!

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:28 pm
by Marmot
Send some letters in timmer!
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:29 pm
by Marmot
timmer hope that timmer does send in a letter so timmer (specifically timmer) can begin decoding.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:39 pm
by Long Con
Why Timmer? I am considering sending in the letter "e"... I thought that would be a pretty solid letter.
Also, this:
http://io9.com/a-guide-to-the-silliest- ... 1701014052
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:42 pm
by blindfaeth
I sent in a letter
Shame epig is gone, I was beginning to trust him.
I think you will have a hard time selling that bass 1.0 had made contact with his team since the host allowed him to sub in DH.
I'm suspicious of DH tbh,he based that entire case on that small possibility.
Anyway, I still don't feel good about LC. Bullz either but you let me know when y'all are ready, since we will lynch people for saying "cheat" but not for blatantly refusing to help the civs, trying to push an obvious agenda that I was a detective so his pals could off me, etc
Now that I mention it, maybe I can get DH lynched for using "non air quote" air quotes, since our last two lynches have been hectic, unpredictable and for lack of a better word, dumb.
DH
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:43 pm
by Marmot
timmer sent in R with the hopes that timmer else would send in the same letter.
timmer also think that E is a good option.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:46 pm
by DharmaHelper
blindfaeth wrote:I sent in a letter
Shame epig is gone, I was beginning to trust him.
I think you will have a hard time selling that bass 1.0 had made contact with his team since the host allowed him to sub in DH.
I'm suspicious of DH tbh,he based that entire case on that small possibility.
Anyway, I still don't feel good about LC. Bullz either but you let me know when y'all are ready, since we will lynch people for saying "cheat" but not for blatantly refusing to help the civs, trying to push an obvious agenda that I was a detective so his pals could off me, etc
Now that I mention it, maybe I can get DH lynched for using "non air quote" air quotes, since our last two lynches have been hectic, unpredictable and for lack of a better word, dumb.
DH
Somebody didn't read a word of my case, clearly.

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:48 pm
by blindfaeth
My eyes did sort of glaze over tbh it was such a stretch
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:49 pm
by Marmot
blindfaeth wrote:My eyes did sort of glaze over tbh it was such a stretch

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:50 pm
by DharmaHelper
blindfaeth wrote:My eyes did sort of glaze over tbh it was such a stretch
Always good to stretch before working out..
I think I'll go back and re-read why people were suspecting you :P
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:51 pm
by DharmaHelper
"I'm gonna vote for DH. I didn't read his case and it seemed like a stretch to me having not read it." - BF
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:52 pm
by blindfaeth
"I'm DH and I like to use air quotes and jump to hasty conclusions"
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:53 pm
by DharmaHelper
blindfaeth wrote:"I'm DH and I like to use air quotes and jump to hasty conclusions"
How many baddies have you lynched btw :P
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:55 pm
by blindfaeth
DharmaHelper wrote:blindfaeth wrote:"I'm DH and I like to use air quotes and jump to hasty conclusions"
How many baddies have you lynched btw :P
None, not like it matters, for all I know you feigned suspicion of bass and were severely disappointed when you realized you painted a target on your teammates back
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:56 pm
by DharmaHelper
blindfaeth wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:blindfaeth wrote:"I'm DH and I like to use air quotes and jump to hasty conclusions"
How many baddies have you lynched btw :P
None, not like it matters, for all I know you feigned suspicion of bass and were severely disappointed when you realized you painted a target on your teammates back
That seems like a pretty hasty conclusion.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:56 pm
by Marmot
blindfaeth wrote:"I'm DH and I like to use air quotes and jump to hasty conclusions"
timmer don't think timmer deserves a ton of credit or anything for the previous lynch, but that doesn't make timmer bad at all. Would timmer still be looking at timmer if timmer wasn't lynched?
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:58 pm
by DharmaHelper
Metalmarsh89 wrote:blindfaeth wrote:"I'm DH and I like to use air quotes and jump to hasty conclusions"
timmer don't think timmer deserves a ton of credit or anything for the previous lynch, but that doesn't make timmer bad at all. Would timmer still be looking at timmer if timmer wasn't lynched?
I'm 80% sure I agree with this.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:59 pm
by Long Con
BF, your attitude about the Bass lynch is surprising. You seem frustrated.
And it looks like MM has to replace all his pronouns with "timmer". I haven't seen that one before.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:03 am
by blindfaeth
MM must be cursed. I'll answer you in the morning I'm trying to get off to bed because boogs is waiting.
I'll just say before I go that it makes me uneasy that DH is trying to push the whole "oh how many baddies have you caught" routine, when in this game since they didn't start with BTSC and don't know each other, it doesn't matter. He's used that theory in his case against SVS and now he's using it again tonight and can't seem to grasp this concept. Sorry, but your lynch of bass = absolutely no civ cred, as much as you want it to, not happening, so don't act like it should.
Linki, I am frustrated with the bass lynch lol. Because we lynch someone who says cheat but not the elephant in the room who's using wifom to the extreme
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:04 am
by Marmot
Long Con wrote:BF, your attitude about the Bass lynch is surprising. You seem frustrated.
And it looks like MM has to replace all his pronouns with "timmer". I haven't seen that one before.
timmer agree with what timmer are saying here. timmer wouldn't mind lynching timmer today.
But timmer still think that timmer is the best option.
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:04 am
by Long Con
Well... is that really why we lynched Bass?
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:05 am
by Marmot
blindfaeth wrote:MM must be cursed. I'll answer you in the morning I'm trying to get off to bed because boogs is waiting.
I'll just say before I go that it makes me uneasy that DH is trying to push the whole "oh how many baddies have you caught" routine, when in this game since they didn't start with BTSC and don't know each other, it doesn't matter. He's used that theory in his case against SVS and now he's using it again tonight and can't seem to grasp this concept. Sorry, but your lynch of bass = absolutely no civ cred, as much as you want it to, not happening, so don't act like it should.
Linki, I am frustrated with the bass lynch lol. Because we lynch someone who says cheat but not the elephant in the room who's using wifom to the extreme
Is timmer a girl?

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:19 am
by Long Con
Metalmarsh89 wrote:blindfaeth wrote:MM must be cursed. I'll answer you in the morning I'm trying to get off to bed because boogs is waiting.
I'll just say before I go that it makes me uneasy that DH is trying to push the whole "oh how many baddies have you caught" routine, when in this game since they didn't start with BTSC and don't know each other, it doesn't matter. He's used that theory in his case against SVS and now he's using it again tonight and can't seem to grasp this concept. Sorry, but your lynch of bass = absolutely no civ cred, as much as you want it to, not happening, so don't act like it should.
Linki, I am frustrated with the bass lynch lol. Because we lynch someone who says cheat but not the elephant in the room who's using wifom to the extreme
Is timmer a girl?

No, Timmer is not a girl.

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:33 am
by Marmot
Hi timmer. No, timmer meant timmer. Not timmer, timmer. What do timmer think, timmer? Er timmer, not timmer. timmer!
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:37 am
by timmer
Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hi timmer. No, timmer meant timmer. Not timmer, timmer. What do timmer think, timmer? Er timmer, not timmer. timmer!
That's just cruel. It makes me think of this:

Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:40 am
by Spacedaisy
Sometimes I feel like playing mafia is somewhat akin to talking to a wall for me anymore. In death note I didn't comment on the fact things I said were largely ignored because I was bad and did t want to draw attention to myself unnecessarily, but here it is just plain annoying. Does anyone want to discuss LC? Or am I the only one who feels bad about him?
Re: The Flash: Battle for the Gem Cities (Day 3)
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:45 am
by Long Con
Spacedaisy wrote:Sometimes I feel like playing mafia is somewhat akin to talking to a wall for me anymore. In death note I didn't comment on the fact things I said were largely ignored because I was bad and did t want to draw attention to myself unnecessarily, but here it is just plain annoying. Does anyone want to discuss LC? Or am I the only one who feels bad about him?
Rabbit would probably be happy to discuss me with you, and BF has stated that he suspects me as well.
Maybe you should make a case if you want people to respond to it. It's not easy to respond to "I don't feel good about him".