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Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
by Long Con
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:26 pm
100% mech clear
Jack
Very likely mech clear but okay fine a tiny sliver of doubt could remain
Kyle
Long Con
tutuu
Just…super town
JPIC
Made
Syn
Mech stuff reflects well on them and have handled things in a townie way, but I guess we look here before the above groups?
Tim
Martin
Dizzy
Mostly think they’re okay on their own merits (solving etc) but I guess nothing stops them being a wolf
Michelle
Sloonei
Ted
The rest
TSP
Wilgy
Hollowkatt
112
Hyena
Let me know if I have any mech conclusions wrong.
Looks good, where's Radishes?
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
yep
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
by Master Radishes
I can expand on any if need be. And probably will if I get a chance/if I live to tomorrow.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
by Syn
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:17 pm
JustPlayingitcool - claims that there was some kind of benefit to the number of people on marmot's wagon reaching 8 or more. also claimed to have received something during n2 that he isnt sure whether or not its positive or negative
Not to be pedantic, but in this specific situation, it had to be MORE than 8. Not an exact of 8.
is that true today too
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Radishes is probably above sloonei
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:28 pm
by Made
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:26 pm
100% mech clear
Jack
Very likely mech clear but okay fine a tiny sliver of doubt could remain
Kyle
Long Con
tutuu
Just…super town
JPIC
Made
Syn
Mech stuff reflects well on them and have handled things in a townie way, but I guess we look here before the above groups?
Tim
Martin
Dizzy
Mostly think they’re okay on their own merits (solving etc) but I guess nothing stops them being a wolf
Michelle
Sloonei
Ted
The rest
TSP
Wilgy
Hollowkatt
112
Hyena
Let me know if I have any mech conclusions wrong.
Imo swap hyena to super town, then move jpic to Michelle’s category
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:28 pm
by Master Radishes
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:26 pm
100% mech clear
Jack
Very likely mech clear but okay fine a tiny sliver of doubt could remain
Kyle
Long Con
tutuu
Just…super town
JPIC
Made
Syn
Mech stuff reflects well on them and have handled things in a townie way, but I guess we look here before the above groups?
Tim
Martin
Dizzy
Mostly think they’re okay on their own merits (solving etc) but I guess nothing stops them being a wolf
Michelle
Sloonei
Ted
The rest
TSP
Wilgy
Hollowkatt
112
Hyena
Let me know if I have any mech conclusions wrong.
Looks good, where's Radishes?
I think I'm in JPIC's group but I accept people now have me in the Michelle group.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:29 pm
by Justplayingitcool
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:17 pm
JustPlayingitcool - claims that there was some kind of benefit to the number of people on marmot's wagon reaching 8 or more. also claimed to have received something during n2 that he isnt sure whether or not its positive or negative
Not to be pedantic, but in this specific situation, it had to be MORE than 8. Not an exact of 8.
is that true today too
Yes, it needs to be more than 8 (this phase), but this time it's fine if it's exactly 8.
The number was different last phase.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:29 pm
by Master Radishes
Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:28 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:26 pm
100% mech clear
Jack
Very likely mech clear but okay fine a tiny sliver of doubt could remain
Kyle
Long Con
tutuu
Just…super town
JPIC
Made
Syn
Mech stuff reflects well on them and have handled things in a townie way, but I guess we look here before the above groups?
Tim
Martin
Dizzy
Mostly think they’re okay on their own merits (solving etc) but I guess nothing stops them being a wolf
Michelle
Sloonei
Ted
The rest
TSP
Wilgy
Hollowkatt
112
Hyena
Let me know if I have any mech conclusions wrong.
Imo swap hyena to super town, then move jpic to Michelle’s category
Hard disagree on both, personally, but I think it's healthy to have differing opinions from towncore members so I'm not going to argue or anything.
Probably worth discussing tomorrow.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:29 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Hyena and michelle should move in and I should be considered omega town but I do apparently have a hard time voting for wolf wagons or remembering when eod is so I understand why I'm not
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:30 pm
by Syn
sorry sweatie you need a wagon of more than 8
"but epi, there's only 5 players left"

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:30 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I said move in but I meant swap
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:30 pm
by Master Radishes
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:29 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:17 pm
JustPlayingitcool - claims that there was some kind of benefit to the number of people on marmot's wagon reaching 8 or more. also claimed to have received something during n2 that he isnt sure whether or not its positive or negative
Not to be pedantic, but in this specific situation, it had to be MORE than 8. Not an exact of 8.
is that true today too
Yes, it needs to be more than 8 (this phase), but this time it's fine if it's exactly 8.
The number was different last phase.
So it's related to how many players are in the game.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:31 pm
by Kylemii
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:59 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:44 pm
@Kylemii pls make sure u place ur vote appropriately and steal a potential scum power role
I'm not really sure what a scum power role would look like tbh. I feel weird about voting.
I haven't caught up but I think I endorse the 112 yeet. but if I vote there, does that mean that Syn doesn't get to use 112's role?
Yea u shouldnt vote on the wagon we yeet
Are u gonna be around for eod?
If u wanna sheep, listen to either JPIC or Master Radish to tell u where to vote and steal power from @Master Radishes @Justplayingitcool
I'm only around for the next 30 minutes, otherwise I'm at registers.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:31 pm
by tutuu
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:30 pm
sorry sweatie you need a wagon of more than 8
"but epi, there's only 5 players left"
ROFL
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:31 pm
by Michelle
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:23 pm
wait hang on, what is the mech on tutuu
I asked you to confirm me, you confirmed so is your fault i don't still tunnel hard tutuu, and now you come with this

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:32 pm
by Long Con
Hyena's proven role is kind of towny, isn't it? Connecting the dead with the living?
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:32 pm
by Justplayingitcool
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:30 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:29 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:17 pm
JustPlayingitcool - claims that there was some kind of benefit to the number of people on marmot's wagon reaching 8 or more. also claimed to have received something during n2 that he isnt sure whether or not its positive or negative
Not to be pedantic, but in this specific situation, it had to be MORE than 8. Not an exact of 8.
is that true today too
Yes, it needs to be more than 8 (this phase), but this time it's fine if it's exactly 8.
The number was different last phase.
So it's related to how many players are in the game.
I don't know if it matters. I haven't really paid attention.
The number was bigger D3.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:32 pm
by tutuu
@Kylemii vote tonystarkprime and steal his power, him and ted and me are the only ones who havent outed their role at this point
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:33 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
pls don't steal my power either I might actually use it today
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:33 pm
by Master Radishes
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:32 pm
Hyena's proven role is kind of towny, isn't it? Connecting the dead with the living?
So...sure. But the roles we know of don't feel very AI. Like the Tetris thing could've been either team. My role can be something that's on a scum team tbh.
I mainly just think Hyena is acting classically scummy all role stuff aside.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I think my power might clear me though idk
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 pm
by tutuu
TSP or wilgy or hollowkatt - choose one of those
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 pm
by tutuu
no i want to learn tony's role
pls vote tony
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:35 pm
by Timsup2nothin
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:35 pm
by Long Con
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 pm
no i want to learn tony's role
pls vote tony
I am an easy Tony voter. Could Tone it up.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:35 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 pm
no i want to learn tony's role
pls vote tony
my role is obvious from my iso
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:36 pm
by Justplayingitcool
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 pm
no i want to learn tony's role
pls vote tony
No, wilgy or HK.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:36 pm
by Michelle
112
11
39%
Voters: Sloonei, Michelle, TonyStarkPrime, Made, tedxtr, Long Con, Master Radishes, tutuu, Dyslexicon, DrWilgy, Justplayingitcool
The biggest wagon, of course should contain a lot of wolves, 112 is right, but is a kind of NAI logic.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:36 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:35 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 pm
no i want to learn tony's role
pls vote tony
I am an easy Tony voter. Could Tone it up.
no we're just voting tony to steal tony's power not to kill him
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:36 pm
by Long Con
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:35 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 pm
no i want to learn tony's role
pls vote tony
my role is obvious from my iso
Save me some time broseph.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:36 pm
by Justplayingitcool
Michelle's random paranoia of tutuu is probably town imo
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I swear if Tim blasts me Hyena you better connect me and Tim so I can bombard him with taylor swift gifs
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm
by Long Con
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:36 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:35 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 pm
no i want to learn tony's role
pls vote tony
I am an easy Tony voter. Could Tone it up.
no we're just voting tony to steal tony's power not to kill him
How embarrassing.

Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm
by Michelle
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:32 pm
@Kylemii vote tonystarkprime and steal his power, him and ted and me are the only ones who havent outed their role at this point
And me tbh
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:36 pm
Michelle's random paranoia of tutuu is probably town imo
Don't think it's so clear. Wolves might need to keep paranoia on that spot.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm
by DrWilgy
Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:09 pm
I hate to use the S word, but statistically speaking, it’d be weird if 112 is a hit. I’m optimistic tho.
I feel this. Everyone's just cool w/112 and it makes sense per the cat stuff. It's scary that everyone's cool with it though.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm
by Timsup2nothin
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm
I swear if Tim blasts me Hyena you better connect me and Tim so I can bombard him with taylor swift gifs
I wouldn't open the chat
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:38 pm
by Master Radishes
Our numbers game is actually really good. We can get through a good chunk of the PoE and get some wrong before we may need to panic and tinfoil.
I strongly recommend even if we get it wrong today we stick to the general consensus PoE in D5. Discuss other options, maybe, but not let ourselves get tunnelled into new narratives. I've seen it a few times before on Syndicate where the town gets off to a strong start then shoots itself in the foot.
If we get to D6 with two green flips then sure, we can begin to widen our search.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:38 pm
by Michelle
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:36 pm
Michelle's random paranoia of tutuu is probably town imo
It's not random.. i can write a book
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:38 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
let's get this out of the way early: if 112 flips wolf dizzy is town
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:39 pm
by Master Radishes
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:38 pm
let's get this out of the way early: if 112 flips wolf dizzy is town
Dizzy's probably already town tbh.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:39 pm
by DrWilgy
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:10 pm
A third general observation:
Of the parameters we can be sure of (the three scum, the dead town, a couple mech things) I do not see any Grand Wolf Agenda that people always fear exists. I see wolves who were individually working to slide by as best they could. Cat was just trying to fend off some early suss without implicating teammates. Marmot was being opportunistic in all his pushes rather than powerwolfing. Nanook was doing jack and showed no inclination to get more involved to start dictating events. Both those latter two are capable of being manipulative wolves and were not doing it. Their flipped powers were weak and were clearly not being used to further any specific agenda either.
Conversely, the dead townies were active, pushy, and correct. The wolves were being boxed out and were picking it off the Big Scary Towny Leaders as they saw them.
This suggests the wolf team that remains is not in control of this game. The town is.
Agree/disagree?
Agree, but in this line of talk, if we are wrong on who's in control, who's the deepwolf?
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:39 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I think Dizzy should be lower than where he is in MR's POE
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:40 pm
by Master Radishes
Btw I actually do sort of feel TSP could be town. But he remains core PoE for historic disengagement etc.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:40 pm
by Long Con
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:40 pm
Btw I actually do sort of feel TSP could be town. But he remains core PoE for historic disengagement etc.
Agreed.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:40 pm
by Michelle
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 pm
Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:09 pm
I hate to use the S word, but statistically speaking, it’d be weird if 112 is a hit. I’m optimistic tho.
I feel this. Everyone's just cool w/112 and it makes sense per the cat stuff. It's scary that everyone's cool with it though.
If 112 is wolf probably the others realised is hard to defend.
If is villager, then it's an ugly thing indeed
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:41 pm
by Master Radishes
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:39 pm
I think Dizzy should be lower than where he is in MR's POE
His category placement is because he has claimed a protect on nutella and this might verify Martin's claim.
Also he's just sorta townie when he does come along to post.
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:41 pm
by Made
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:39 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:10 pm
A third general observation:
Of the parameters we can be sure of (the three scum, the dead town, a couple mech things) I do not see any Grand Wolf Agenda that people always fear exists. I see wolves who were individually working to slide by as best they could. Cat was just trying to fend off some early suss without implicating teammates. Marmot was being opportunistic in all his pushes rather than powerwolfing. Nanook was doing jack and showed no inclination to get more involved to start dictating events. Both those latter two are capable of being manipulative wolves and were not doing it. Their flipped powers were weak and were clearly not being used to further any specific agenda either.
Conversely, the dead townies were active, pushy, and correct. The wolves were being boxed out and were picking it off the Big Scary Towny Leaders as they saw them.
This suggests the wolf team that remains is not in control of this game. The town is.
Agree/disagree?
Agree, but in this line of talk, if we are wrong on who's in control, who's the deepwolf?
...it’s Sloonei
Re: Game of Champions 2020 [Day 4]
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:41 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I think at least one wolf has finangled into a mechcleary spot by now