The Syndicate

Kyle's role is weird and I don't comprendo

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:37 pm noted "I can't be fucking bothered" aficionado who dual wields the sword of contrarianism in one hand and a hot cheetos family bag in the other

This is going to be my sig

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:47 pm final post i s2g @Justplayingitcool @Master Radishes @Made @Syn kyle's ability can't differentiate between town and 3p and getting roleblocked. he peeked lc n2. marmot tetrising a teammate is not unreasonable. scum!long con roleblocking kyle on n2 after kyle spent the entire d2 being silent to charge up his role is not unreasonable. logic shows that lc is most likely town but please keep it in the backburner that he is not clear, pls dont forget. and also remind this to other ppl tomorrow pls if i die

Okay, I'm here now. Sorry that I've been so quiet today. Been feeling really lethargic for some reason. Gonna go catch up really quick.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:47 pm final post i s2g @Justplayingitcool @Master Radishes @Made @Syn kyle's ability can't differentiate between town and 3p and getting roleblocked. he peeked lc n2. marmot tetrising a teammate is not unreasonable. scum!long con roleblocking kyle on n2 after kyle spent the entire d2 being silent to charge up his role is not unreasonable. logic shows that lc is most likely town but please keep it in the backburner that he is not clear, pls dont forget. and also remind this to other ppl tomorrow pls if i die

i'm picking up what you're putting down

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:47 pm final post i s2g @Justplayingitcool @Master Radishes @Made @Syn kyle's ability can't differentiate between town and 3p and getting roleblocked. he peeked lc n2. marmot tetrising a teammate is not unreasonable. scum!long con roleblocking kyle on n2 after kyle spent the entire d2 being silent to charge up his role is not unreasonable. logic shows that lc is most likely town but please keep it in the backburner that he is not clear, pls dont forget. and also remind this to other ppl tomorrow pls if i die

I confirm i read it

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:49 pm Okay, I'm here now. Sorry that I've been so quiet today. Been feeling really lethargic for some reason. Gonna go catch up really quick.

D5 we chop the big sad

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:10 am @Jackofhearts2005 Do you have experience with Hyena? Can you tell me a bit about their play and how you read them this game?

@Hyena Do you have a read on Wilgy?

No, I don't. I think I townread him early game, and then ended up scumreading him later on around D2-ish? I recall making an argument for why he could be scum. I haven't reevaluated him since then.

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:51 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:49 pm Okay, I'm here now. Sorry that I've been so quiet today. Been feeling really lethargic for some reason. Gonna go catch up really quick.

D5 we chop the big sad

Who's the big sad? D:

While we’re admiring things, I still have a pretty strong town ready on Wilgy. Could be wrong, but that’s where I’m at

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:41 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:37 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:20 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:20 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:43 pm Or LC or Tim

I think Tim is attracting too much paranoia to be truly deep though, like that's the main argument against him being deep I think.

everyone thinks his vig shot was town

everyone also thinks it's weird wolves have no extra KP

yeah, to me that says "Tim can't be deep wolf b/c he'll get merked before end game"

In this game that sentence is not valid :hint:

yes.

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:51 pmNo, I don't. I think I townread him early game, and then ended up scumreading him later on around D2-ish? I recall making an argument for why he could be scum. I haven't reevaluated him since then.

I asked because apparently it was a problem for you that I voted him on D3?

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:52 pm While we’re admiring things, I still have a pretty strong town ready on Wilgy. Could be wrong, but that’s where I’m at

That is the spice we're here for. Is it vibes, is it things? Do I need to read his posts?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:48 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:37 pm noted "I can't be fucking bothered" aficionado who dual wields the sword of contrarianism in one hand and a hot cheetos family bag in the other

This is going to be my sig

it should be, yeah. Like even in real life

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:55 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:52 pm While we’re admiring things, I still have a pretty strong town ready on Wilgy. Could be wrong, but that’s where I’m at

That is the spice we're here for. Is it vibes, is it things? Do I need to read his posts?

He looked good in response to his wagon earlier today.

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:51 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:49 pm Okay, I'm here now. Sorry that I've been so quiet today. Been feeling really lethargic for some reason. Gonna go catch up really quick.

D5 we chop the big sad

Who's the big sad? D:

Lethargy in all of its forms.
If we hit 112 i say we up our ambition.

D5 we chop remaining mafia in one go
D6 we chop sadness
D7 we chop the host
D8 we attack and dethrone god

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:55 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:48 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:37 pm noted "I can't be fucking bothered" aficionado who dual wields the sword of contrarianism in one hand and a hot cheetos family bag in the other

This is going to be my sig

it should be, yeah. Like even in real life

people should be required to wear shirts with sigs

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:54 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:51 pmNo, I don't. I think I townread him early game, and then ended up scumreading him later on around D2-ish? I recall making an argument for why he could be scum. I haven't reevaluated him since then.

I asked because apparently it was a problem for you that I voted him on D3?

Yes. My issue was that you had a read on Wilgy and, from my PoV, it vanished today. It made me though/makes me think that your read on Wilgy wasn't real and (again) that you were just voting someone to avoid having to vote someone else. What does that have to do with my read on Wilgy?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:45 pm I don't bet against the host, I call my shot. If the name I pick is the biggest visible wagon when deadline hits I'm safe from bad things that night. if not, I'm not.

This is fairly similar to nanook's role in Radiohead, except he was trying to predict the nightkill target, not the top wagon.

@Sloonei Read your wall on Long Con. I'm not gonna quote it because it's too big, but I just figured I'd let you know that I saw it and took note of it.

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:57 pm D8 we attack and dethrone god

Mac was already nightkilled.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:53 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:52 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:49 pm I've been doubting my 112 read, but,

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:37 pm I'm not gonna be very available for the rest of the day.

Feel free to keep throwing the game.

I don't know that I've ever seen 112 adopt this attitude when town.

I wouldnt buy any AtE from her either

Didnt she make up an imaginary cat that died and said she was grieving over it in a game where she was scum and wanted an excuse to not post

LMAO I nearly forgot about that.

Rip Benson.

@nutella @MacDougall @Hyena

THIS IS WHY I INITIALLY KEPT 112 OUT OF THE ANIMAL TOWNCORE!!! >:C

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:57 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:51 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:49 pm Okay, I'm here now. Sorry that I've been so quiet today. Been feeling really lethargic for some reason. Gonna go catch up really quick.

D5 we chop the big sad

Who's the big sad? D:

Lethargy in all of its forms.
If we hit 112 i say we up our ambition.

D5 we chop remaining mafia in one go
D6 we chop sadness
D7 we chop the host
D8 we attack and dethrone god

I like that idea honestly.

Lmao she faked her cat’s death??? Respect

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:00 pm @Sloonei Read your wall on Long Con. I'm not gonna quote it because it's too big, but I just figured I'd let you know that I saw it and took note of it.

I would not call it a "wall on Long Con", it was a wall in which Long Con came out looking not great. But then everyone told me he was pseudo-mech cleared immediately after.

Do you have any thoughts on it?

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:55 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:52 pm While we’re admiring things, I still have a pretty strong town ready on Wilgy. Could be wrong, but that’s where I’m at

That is the spice we're here for. Is it vibes, is it things? Do I need to read his posts?

He looked good in response to his wagon earlier today.

I'll take a look at that actually, thanks.

Going to work. Don’t do anything. please and thank

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:02 pm Lmao she faked her cat’s death??? Respect

i think she made up the entire existence of the cat as well. i respect it too

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:59 pmYes. My issue was that you had a read on Wilgy and, from my PoV, it vanished today. It made me though/makes me think that your read on Wilgy wasn't real and (again) that you were just voting someone to avoid having to vote someone else. What does that have to do with my read on Wilgy?

Alright. It's more that I don't have substantial scum reads (or the ones I've had are dead), but I am in agreement of general PoE.

My pet dinosaur died yesterday

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:17 pm Long Con - claims to have played tetris on d2. soft cleared by kyle's mech info. n2 forgot to submit track and it was stolen by marmot anyway. n3 tracked hyena and saw him visiting mac and tim. there is a scenario where he is mafia so watch out

Well hold on, could you elaborate on this, @tutuu?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:01 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:57 pm D8 we attack and dethrone god

Mac was already nightkilled.

mac is the god of piss?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:02 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:00 pm @Sloonei Read your wall on Long Con. I'm not gonna quote it because it's too big, but I just figured I'd let you know that I saw it and took note of it.

I would not call it a "wall on Long Con", it was a wall in which Long Con came out looking not great. But then everyone told me he was pseudo-mech cleared immediately after.

Do you have any thoughts on it?

I was actually townreading Long Con. I wasn't ready to get into an argument about why Long Con is town, so I intentionally didn't comment on it. I was happy to see that you concluded that I'm town from it though! But yeah, I didn't really see the same stiffness that you saw in reaction to you being silenced.

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:01 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:57 pm D8 we attack and dethrone god

Mac was already nightkilled.

mac is the god of piss?

yes.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:47 pm final post i s2g @Justplayingitcool @Master Radishes @Made @Syn kyle's ability can't differentiate between town and 3p and getting roleblocked. he peeked lc n2. marmot tetrising a teammate is not unreasonable. scum!long con roleblocking kyle on n2 after kyle spent the entire d2 being silent to charge up his role is not unreasonable. logic shows that lc is most likely town but please keep it in the backburner that he is not clear, pls dont forget. and also remind this to other ppl tomorrow pls if i die

@Sloonei

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:05 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:59 pmYes. My issue was that you had a read on Wilgy and, from my PoV, it vanished today. It made me though/makes me think that your read on Wilgy wasn't real and (again) that you were just voting someone to avoid having to vote someone else. What does that have to do with my read on Wilgy?

Alright. It's more that I don't have substantial scum reads (or the ones I've had are dead), but I am in agreement of general PoE.

Nanook was in agreement of the general PoE too. :P He was sheeping Nutella at every turn.

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:02 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:00 pm @Sloonei Read your wall on Long Con. I'm not gonna quote it because it's too big, but I just figured I'd let you know that I saw it and took note of it.

I would not call it a "wall on Long Con", it was a wall in which Long Con came out looking not great. But then everyone told me he was pseudo-mech cleared immediately after.

Do you have any thoughts on it?

I was actually townreading Long Con. I wasn't ready to get into an argument about why Long Con is town, so I intentionally didn't comment on it. I was happy to see that you concluded that I'm town from it though! But yeah, I didn't really see the same stiffness that you saw in reaction to you being silenced.

Do you have any thoughts, even just generally, about how the mafia team might have reacted to my silencing on Day 2?

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:07 pmNanook was in agreement of the general PoE too. :P He was sheeping Nutella at every turn.

Ok.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:06 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:47 pm final post i s2g @Justplayingitcool @Master Radishes @Made @Syn kyle's ability can't differentiate between town and 3p and getting roleblocked. he peeked lc n2. marmot tetrising a teammate is not unreasonable. scum!long con roleblocking kyle on n2 after kyle spent the entire d2 being silent to charge up his role is not unreasonable. logic shows that lc is most likely town but please keep it in the backburner that he is not clear, pls dont forget. and also remind this to other ppl tomorrow pls if i die

@Sloonei

Okay.

My understanding of kyle's "mech info" on LC is that it is vague, so I won't take it to the bank, but it is worth being mindful of. Same with the Tetris thing. That definitely helps LC's case more than it hurts.

@Dyslexicon how do you feel about this list below? Others commented on it, mostly in agreement with of course a few quibbles.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:26 pm 100% mech clear
Jack

Very likely mech clear but okay fine a tiny sliver of doubt could remain
Kyle
Long Con
tutuu

Just…super town
JPIC
Made
Syn

Mech stuff reflects well on them and have handled things in a townie way, but I guess we look here before the above groups?
Tim
Martin
Dizzy

Mostly think they’re okay on their own merits (solving etc) but I guess nothing stops them being a wolf
Michelle
Sloonei
Ted

The rest
TSP
Wilgy
Hollowkatt
112
Hyena


Let me know if I have any mech conclusions wrong.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:07 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:02 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:00 pm @Sloonei Read your wall on Long Con. I'm not gonna quote it because it's too big, but I just figured I'd let you know that I saw it and took note of it.

I would not call it a "wall on Long Con", it was a wall in which Long Con came out looking not great. But then everyone told me he was pseudo-mech cleared immediately after.

Do you have any thoughts on it?

I was actually townreading Long Con. I wasn't ready to get into an argument about why Long Con is town, so I intentionally didn't comment on it. I was happy to see that you concluded that I'm town from it though! But yeah, I didn't really see the same stiffness that you saw in reaction to you being silenced.

Do you have any thoughts, even just generally, about how the mafia team might have reacted to my silencing on Day 2?

I didn't at the time. I just assume that everyone's going to have their own reaction to it regardless of alignment. For example, I laughed when I noticed it if only because I thought I was free from getting pushed on for a while. Other people may be have been confused, but not necessarily -- like, maybe mafia just assumed that we had some sort of silencing role, too? Thus, I don't know if it's a good idea to broadly look for a specific reaction (not saying that you did). You'd have to go though, player by player, to see their individual reaction and judge it based on their specific meta. Does that make any sense?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:07 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:02 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:00 pm @Sloonei Read your wall on Long Con. I'm not gonna quote it because it's too big, but I just figured I'd let you know that I saw it and took note of it.

I would not call it a "wall on Long Con", it was a wall in which Long Con came out looking not great. But then everyone told me he was pseudo-mech cleared immediately after.

Do you have any thoughts on it?

I was actually townreading Long Con. I wasn't ready to get into an argument about why Long Con is town, so I intentionally didn't comment on it. I was happy to see that you concluded that I'm town from it though! But yeah, I didn't really see the same stiffness that you saw in reaction to you being silenced.

Do you have any thoughts, even just generally, about how the mafia team might have reacted to my silencing on Day 2?

Kinda depends on whether they are your teammates.

If you are town I bet they laughed their asses off.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:12 pm @Dyslexicon how do you feel about this list below? Others commented on it, mostly in agreement with of course a few quibbles.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:26 pm 100% mech clear
Jack

Very likely mech clear but okay fine a tiny sliver of doubt could remain
Kyle
Long Con
tutuu

Just…super town
JPIC
Made
Syn

Mech stuff reflects well on them and have handled things in a townie way, but I guess we look here before the above groups?
Tim
Martin
Dizzy

Mostly think they’re okay on their own merits (solving etc) but I guess nothing stops them being a wolf
Michelle
Sloonei
Ted

The rest
TSP
Wilgy
Hollowkatt
112
Hyena


Let me know if I have any mech conclusions wrong.

my quibble is that you have me somehow being wolf

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:13 pm my quibble is that you have me somehow being wolf

No I just have you PoE.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:07 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:06 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:02 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:00 pm @Sloonei Read your wall on Long Con. I'm not gonna quote it because it's too big, but I just figured I'd let you know that I saw it and took note of it.

I would not call it a "wall on Long Con", it was a wall in which Long Con came out looking not great. But then everyone told me he was pseudo-mech cleared immediately after.

Do you have any thoughts on it?

I was actually townreading Long Con. I wasn't ready to get into an argument about why Long Con is town, so I intentionally didn't comment on it. I was happy to see that you concluded that I'm town from it though! But yeah, I didn't really see the same stiffness that you saw in reaction to you being silenced.

Do you have any thoughts, even just generally, about how the mafia team might have reacted to my silencing on Day 2?

Kinda depends on whether they are your teammates.

If you are town I bet they laughed their asses off.

Man, I'm town and I still laughed my ass off when I realized what had happened, lol.

good luck guys

I have now reached the stage where I'm thinking too many people sound too towny and oh god what if 112 is just town where do we go next what did we do wrong.

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:05 pm My pet dinosaur died yesterday

I legit thought my cat was gone yesterday but then she came back this morning so I'm sorry for your loss of Rawr

112 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:18 pmgood luck guys

Thanks. Enjoy DVC.

I'm out to the store, not that my absence will really change anything.

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:57 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:51 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:49 pm Okay, I'm here now. Sorry that I've been so quiet today. Been feeling really lethargic for some reason. Gonna go catch up really quick.

D5 we chop the big sad

Who's the big sad? D:

Lethargy in all of its forms.
If we hit 112 i say we up our ambition.

D5 we chop remaining mafia in one go
D6 we chop sadness
D7 we chop the host
D8 we attack and dethrone god

...

Ok, but that'll take a nat 20 on a int check