The Syndicate

Fredwood wrote:He claimed one of 28 roleblocks

I claimed a role block with self protection.

Silver Lantern wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:
To EVERYONE we will gain mpre info from a JoH lynch than an Epi lynch.

We would gain the most info from a gfish lynch.

Isn't info what all civs thirst for?

To be frank at this point hasn't there been enough back and forth (guessing here) that we will get solid info from any of these lynches.

Cause if so, stop trying to make it seem like one is better than another. That just makes you seem like a team mate trying to protect Epi.

Can you explain a good reason for his claim as a baddie? For him to outright risk counter claim?
He
will
not
die
from
this

Meaning we gain nothing.

Mordin Solus
You are the very model of a Salarian scientist! And since you were recruited by Shepard to stop the Reaper threat, you have a variety of abilities you can use during the game.

Incinerate - One shot roleblock with a chance to kill your target.
Neural Shock - One shot roleblock nexus (anyone targeting you fails in their action)
Salarian Scientist - Two shot alignment cop

Might as well just quote at this point.

Incinerate. And before you give me hell for my choice of night action, I hit non-town damnit. It was a great night action.

I think Epi is a better lynch than Jack, but I think gfish is a better lynch than Epi. I'll vote gfish

I would have earlier, but there didn't seem to be enough traction.

gfishfunk wrote:

Fredwood wrote:He claimed one of 28 roleblocks

I claimed a role block with self protection.

Is Epi only after you cause you claimed to have blocked him?

Does a kill attempt appear on him in the write up?

Silver Lantern wrote:I just read the Geth Role. Frankly, I don't have an issue with him. I think that the fact that he claimed obviously means he plans to side with the Alliance.

I got some swampland in Florida to sell you.

Silver Lantern wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:
To EVERYONE we will gain mpre info from a JoH lynch than an Epi lynch.

We would gain the most info from a gfish lynch.

Isn't info what all civs thirst for?

To be frank at this point hasn't there been enough back and forth (guessing here) that we will get solid info from any of these lynches.

Cause if so, stop trying to make it seem like one is better than another. That just makes you seem like a team mate trying to protect Epi.

I think he's playing which is more likely to happen. Gfish refuses to vote for Jack, he's intransigent. Jack will vote for Gfish, Epi will vote for Gfish...so of the two options enough people can vote for Fish to force a non Epi lynch.

DrWilgy wrote:

Fredwood wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Fred, JoH can both of you vote Gfish so we can give that wagon a chance.

To a point, but to me we're in the same position if we all switch from Jack to Gfish. I think either can go, I have less faith that either will at this point.

I just don't see how we need to play it safe at this point, we have leeway now. If you all think Epi is a safe lynch...doesn't it make more sense to save it for if we get in a situation where we need to be careful?

To EVERYONE we will gain mpre info from a JoH lynch than an Epi lynch.

We would gain the most info from a gfish lynch.

Isn't info what all civs thirst for?

I am expecting some excellent info from the Epi lynch. I'm not convinced that what Epignosis is claiming is true.

gfishfunk wrote:

Mordin Solus
You are the very model of a Salarian scientist! And since you were recruited by Shepard to stop the Reaper threat, you have a variety of abilities you can use during the game.

Incinerate - One shot roleblock with a chance to kill your target.
Neural Shock - One shot roleblock nexus (anyone targeting you fails in their action)
Salarian Scientist - Two shot alignment cop

Might as well just quote at this point.

Incinerate. And before you give me hell for my choice of night action, I hit non-town damnit. It was a great night action.

Not really...if you fucking copped him we would have bypassed the whole Vega debacle.


Also...I don't see any kill protection in your roleblock.

DrWilgy wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:
To EVERYONE we will gain mpre info from a JoH lynch than an Epi lynch.

We would gain the most info from a gfish lynch.

Isn't info what all civs thirst for?

To be frank at this point hasn't there been enough back and forth (guessing here) that we will get solid info from any of these lynches.

Cause if so, stop trying to make it seem like one is better than another. That just makes you seem like a team mate trying to protect Epi.

Can you explain a good reason for his claim as a baddie? For him to outright risk counter claim?
He
will
not
die
from
this

Meaning we gain nothing.

Who is "HIS"/"HIM" and can you explain exactly WHAT he will not die from?

Are you always this damned vague? Holy cow...

Silver Lantern wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Fredwood wrote:He claimed one of 28 roleblocks

I claimed a role block with self protection.

Is Epi only after you cause you claimed to have blocked him?

Does a kill attempt appear on him in the write up?

No, epi wants LC to die. But he's going to vote for whoever has the greatest chance of being lynched of not being him.

@Fred, My sanity and my soul. Should I join on Jack?

I see Gfish claiming. Why on earth would you not use a cop action the first night if this is your role? Any counters to this?

Fredwood wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Mordin Solus
You are the very model of a Salarian scientist! And since you were recruited by Shepard to stop the Reaper threat, you have a variety of abilities you can use during the game.

Incinerate - One shot roleblock with a chance to kill your target.
Neural Shock - One shot roleblock nexus (anyone targeting you fails in their action)
Salarian Scientist - Two shot alignment cop

Might as well just quote at this point.

Incinerate. And before you give me hell for my choice of night action, I hit non-town damnit. It was a great night action.

Not really...if you fucking copped him we would have bypassed the whole Vega debacle.


Also...I don't see any kill protection in your roleblock.

Insert Siren Gif...

Heh, is this a bust Gfish?

Long Con wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:I just read the Geth Role. Frankly, I don't have an issue with him. I think that the fact that he claimed obviously means he plans to side with the Alliance.

I got some swampland in Florida to sell you.

Lol Silver = Reaver

Silver Lantern wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Fredwood wrote:He claimed one of 28 roleblocks

I claimed a role block with self protection.

Is Epi only after you cause you claimed to have blocked him?

Does a kill attempt appear on him in the write up?

I blocked him. He claimed a town role.

I relented and moved my vote off. Long Con and Dyslexicon moved their votes on Epi. Epi then said it was all a trap and he is really Gesh! He was testing to see if people would buy the claim because he thought it was a ploy because one of us hit him with a kill.

I put my vote back on him. I think its a safe lynch. I think the claim could provide cover for a Reaper role. I think Epi is the type of player that would likely join Reaper anyway out of a 'hell, why not?' attitude.

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Fredwood wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Fred, JoH can both of you vote Gfish so we can give that wagon a chance.

To a point, but to me we're in the same position if we all switch from Jack to Gfish. I think either can go, I have less faith that either will at this point.

I just don't see how we need to play it safe at this point, we have leeway now. If you all think Epi is a safe lynch...doesn't it make more sense to save it for if we get in a situation where we need to be careful?

To EVERYONE we will gain mpre info from a JoH lynch than an Epi lynch.

We would gain the most info from a gfish lynch.

Isn't info what all civs thirst for?

I am expecting some excellent info from the Epi lynch. I'm not convinced that what Epignosis is claiming is true.

Y tho?

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Fredwood wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Fred, JoH can both of you vote Gfish so we can give that wagon a chance.

To a point, but to me we're in the same position if we all switch from Jack to Gfish. I think either can go, I have less faith that either will at this point.

I just don't see how we need to play it safe at this point, we have leeway now. If you all think Epi is a safe lynch...doesn't it make more sense to save it for if we get in a situation where we need to be careful?

To EVERYONE we will gain mpre info from a JoH lynch than an Epi lynch.

We would gain the most info from a gfish lynch.

Isn't info what all civs thirst for?

I am expecting some excellent info from the Epi lynch. I'm not convinced that what Epignosis is claiming is true.

What's the alternative? Why did I ditch my Vega claim that got most of the votes off me?

Was I nervous?

gfishfunk wrote:

Mordin Solus
You are the very model of a Salarian scientist! And since you were recruited by Shepard to stop the Reaper threat, you have a variety of abilities you can use during the game.

Incinerate - One shot roleblock with a chance to kill your target.
Neural Shock - One shot roleblock nexus (anyone targeting you fails in their action)
Salarian Scientist - Two shot alignment cop

Might as well just quote at this point.

Incinerate. And before you give me hell for my choice of night action, I hit non-town damnit. It was a great night action.

Protection. Not a role block with protection at the same time. A role block, and I am not worried because I have protection. As in, I don't care if I draw some unwanted night attention.

I now feel way more confident about voting for you.

If you are Mordin, you did this badly.

However, I'll be surprised if you are Mordin.

Dyslexicon wrote:@Fred, My sanity and my soul. Should I join on Jack?

I see Gfish claiming. Why on earth would you not use a cop action the first night if this is your role? Any counters to this?

Because of the potential nightkill on it. How badass would that be?

And once again, I didn't hit town with it.

gfishfunk wrote:

Mordin Solus
You are the very model of a Salarian scientist! And since you were recruited by Shepard to stop the Reaper threat, you have a variety of abilities you can use during the game.

Incinerate - One shot roleblock with a chance to kill your target.
Neural Shock - One shot roleblock nexus (anyone targeting you fails in their action)
Salarian Scientist - Two shot alignment cop

Might as well just quote at this point.

Incinerate. And before you give me hell for my choice of night action, I hit non-town damnit. It was a great night action.

Woulda been great had you used that alignment check or SELF PROTECT

CaptainNifty wrote:I now feel way more confident about voting for you.

If you are Mordin, you did this badly.

However, I'll be surprised if you are Mordin.

This

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:I just read the Geth Role. Frankly, I don't have an issue with him. I think that the fact that he claimed obviously means he plans to side with the Alliance.

I got some swampland in Florida to sell you.

Lol Silver = Reaver

If I were Mafia Jack, you wouldn't have lived past N1.

You don't know how sad it makes me that I'm not the vig...

Dyslexicon wrote:@Fred, My sanity and my soul. Should I join on Jack?

I see Gfish claiming. Why on earth would you not use a cop action the first night if this is your role? Any counters to this?

There aren't going to be any counters for anybody. I went over this. There are more roles than players. His role is either his role or it's a fake role. I lean the latter.

Dyslexicon wrote:@Fred, My sanity and my soul. Should I join on Jack?

I see Gfish claiming. Why on earth would you not use a cop action the first night if this is your role? Any counters to this?

lol we're down to Jack or Fish at this point. I don't like Fish's claim because as you said, Cop makes an infinite amount of more sense on N1 then a gut RB. Jack hasn't claimed yet, and Fish has done the whole I'm a RB from early on thing. So info dump supports Fish currently. It really comes down to how flexible people are to vote for which people.

Yeah, gfishfunk is a liar. Who the hell uses a block / kill BEFORE an alignment check.

Lies.

Fredwood wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Fredwood wrote:He claimed one of 28 roleblocks

I claimed a role block with self protection.

Is Epi only after you cause you claimed to have blocked him?

Does a kill attempt appear on him in the write up?

No, epi wants LC to die. But he's going to vote for whoever has the greatest chance of being lynched of not being him.

That's not accurate. If I get lynched, so be it, and I side with the Reapers because the civilians are fucked if they think lynching me is in their best interest.

gfishfunk wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@Fred, My sanity and my soul. Should I join on Jack?

I see Gfish claiming. Why on earth would you not use a cop action the first night if this is your role? Any counters to this?

Because of the potential nightkill on it. How badass would that be?

And once again, I didn't hit town with it.

Alright, sorry for not being caught up. To be clear: You hit Epi with a kill chance block because you were certain enough he was scum instead of using a cop check first? Is this what you're saying?

Fredwood, can you change your vote?

I'd prefer a lack of shenanigans.

CaptainNifty wrote:I now feel way more confident about voting for you.

If you are Mordin, you did this badly.

However, I'll be surprised if you are Mordin.

I never said I was good at this game.

Epignosis wrote:Yeah, gfishfunk is a liar. Who the hell uses a block / kill BEFORE an alignment check.

Lies.

Obviously you have never played with Gfish...

He does dumb shit all the time, lololol.

gfishfunk wrote:

Silver Lantern wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Fredwood wrote:He claimed one of 28 roleblocks

I claimed a role block with self protection.

Is Epi only after you cause you claimed to have blocked him?

Does a kill attempt appear on him in the write up?

I blocked him. He claimed a town role.

I relented and moved my vote off. Long Con and Dyslexicon moved their votes on Epi. Epi then said it was all a trap and he is really Gesh! He was testing to see if people would buy the claim because he thought it was a ploy because one of us hit him with a kill.

I put my vote back on him. I think its a safe lynch. I think the claim could provide cover for a Reaper role. I think Epi is the type of player that would likely join Reaper anyway out of a 'hell, why not?' attitude.

This is 100 percent not what happened. He said he targeted himself and LC and I jumped to the Vega conclusion and then you backed off along with Adam, IR and Nifty, he never actually claimed Vega. LC then jumped on and Epi thought he caught scum and dropped the Geth bomb on us. Diz did not vote for Epi until much later in the discussion when I told Diz the best two options for a lynch at that time.

Dyslexicon wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@Fred, My sanity and my soul. Should I join on Jack?

I see Gfish claiming. Why on earth would you not use a cop action the first night if this is your role? Any counters to this?

Because of the potential nightkill on it. How badass would that be?

And once again, I didn't hit town with it.

Alright, sorry for not being caught up. To be clear: You hit Epi with a kill chance block because you were certain enough he was scum instead of using a cop check first? Is this what you're saying?

Change vote to self preservation. Yep.

Gfish is not looking good but Jack voting for him makes me weary too. Opposing mafias or one team mate jumping on another's bandwagon?

gfishfunk wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@Fred, My sanity and my soul. Should I join on Jack?

I see Gfish claiming. Why on earth would you not use a cop action the first night if this is your role? Any counters to this?

Because of the potential nightkill on it. How badass would that be?

And once again, I didn't hit town with it.

How in the world would you know the alignment of who you hit?

Epignosis wrote:Tuck and roll bitches.

He did claim, albeit roundabout. Here is his claim Fred.

CaptainNifty wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@Fred, My sanity and my soul. Should I join on Jack?

I see Gfish claiming. Why on earth would you not use a cop action the first night if this is your role? Any counters to this?

Because of the potential nightkill on it. How badass would that be?

And once again, I didn't hit town with it.

How in the world would you know the alignment of who you hit?

I didn't. It was a guess. And damnit if it wasn't a fantastic one because I was right.

The sheer amount of horror from you all is astounding.

Fredwood wrote:lol we're down to Jack or Fish at this point. I don't like Fish's claim because as you said, Cop makes an infinite amount of more sense on N1 then a gut RB. Jack hasn't claimed yet, and Fish has done the whole I'm a RB from early on thing. So info dump supports Fish currently. It really comes down to how flexible people are to vote for which people.

Yeah, that claim doesn't make sense to me at all. And I don't think I buy he's the type of player who would make such a decision because "how badass would it be". Honestly I have no read on Jack, he could go either way. Still see no point in having Epi hanging around, BUT if Gfish is likelier to be actual scum than (for now) neutral then he is a better lynch. Lynches are valuable in this setup. I'd be fine with both of these lynches, but Gifhs' story doesn't strike me as a truthful one. But I haven't read much of this game day (sorryyyy) which is why I'm asking you specifically lol.

DrWilgy wrote:Fredwood, can you change your vote?

I'd prefer a lack of shenanigans.

lol sigh I guess....I don't like that I'm on it with only one green ping, a null, two flaming spicy read and a known neutral...but w/e.

If you're not town then I'm boned anyway, let's see how your gut plays out I guess.



I'm a sheep

Changing to Gfish

Because his story smells Gfishy.

Epi, you may live to take note of who's voting you another day.

gfishfunk wrote:

CaptainNifty wrote:

gfishfunk wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:@Fred, My sanity and my soul. Should I join on Jack?

I see Gfish claiming. Why on earth would you not use a cop action the first night if this is your role? Any counters to this?

Because of the potential nightkill on it. How badass would that be?

And once again, I didn't hit town with it.

How in the world would you know the alignment of who you hit?

I didn't. It was a guess. And damnit if it wasn't a fantastic one because I was right.

The sheer amount of horror from you all is astounding.

Tell me: How demoralizing is it to have your first kill of the game wasted on someone you don't need dead to win...and you couldn't even succeed at that?

gfishfunk wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Tuck and roll bitches.

He did claim, albeit roundabout. Here is his claim Fred.

True but that was after LC and I gave him an out.

I'm still afraid that vote shenanigans will fuck up having a lynch.

Epignosis wrote: Tell me: How demoralizing is it to have your first kill of the game wasted on someone you don't need dead to win...and you couldn't even succeed at that?

I really want to like you Epi, cause you used a really cool line like "tuck and roll bitches", but if you could not be such a dickbag to the people from my home site, that would be cool...


Mainly cause that's my job...

I may actually have time to catch up before EoD.

Silver Lantern wrote:Mainly cause that's my job...

Lulz.

Dyslexicon wrote:I'm still afraid that vote shenanigans will fuck up having a lynch.

What are you whining on about? Can you quote what role has vote shenanigans that you're concerned about? So that others can understand without stirring up a panic for no reason?

Dyslexicon wrote:I'm still afraid that vote shenanigans will fuck up having a lynch.

The silver lining is that even with shenanigans that it will likely result in a Jack lynch...so...that's good I guess.

Does the day close at 7 EST?

Silver Lantern wrote:

Dyslexicon wrote:I'm still afraid that vote shenanigans will fuck up having a lynch.

What are you whining on about? Can you quote what role has vote shenanigans that you're concerned about? So that others can understand without stirring up a panic for no reason?

lol...I chicken littled it earlier, there is at least 2 known vote manipulators...Theres 3 possible reaper vote manipulators, for sure there's one, possibly 2 in that faction. The Thorian is a vote manipulator, and I believe there's another alliance role or two that are vote manipulators.

So, there's almost as much chance for vote shenanigans as there is for roleblocking.