The Syndicate

Now we will see if the (irrational) desire to lynch me over Russ will prevail over the desire to cover others.

EBWOP: It's only irrational if done by the civvies. The baddies have a very good reason to lynch me over Russ.

Omg. I don't have a clue. Where is svs?

Kate wrote:Omg. I don't have a clue. Where is svs?

I trust you to make the right decision, Kate.

Well I'm figuring someone must have gotten blocked last night for us to be where we are. I justt wish I knew who it was. Is that what everyone is thinking?

Kate wrote:Well I'm figuring someone must have gotten blocked last night for us to be where we are. I justt wish I knew who it was. Is that what everyone is thinking?

My read is that someone was protected and two baddies both tried to NK that person (being unable to communicate with each other)

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:Well I'm figuring someone must have gotten blocked last night for us to be where we are. I justt wish I knew who it was. Is that what everyone is thinking?

My read is that someone was protected and two baddies both tried to NK that person (being unable to communicate with each other)

Eh. I don't believe that the recruits can'ttalk. I don't necessarily mean you are lying. I just don't think that's possible.

Actually, it's not a matter of belief. It says under BOB's power that recruits have BTSC. I also think someone must have been blocked, as I stated before.

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:Well I'm figuring someone must have gotten blocked last night for us to be where we are. I justt wish I knew who it was. Is that what everyone is thinking?

My read is that someone was protected and two baddies both tried to NK that person (being unable to communicate with each other)

Eh. I don't believe that the recruits can'ttalk. I don't necessarily mean you are lying. I just don't think that's possible.

You could be right, but no other explanation fits my data unless there is a role secret that I don't know about.

Russtifinko wrote:Actually, it's not a matter of belief. It says under BOB's power that recruits have BTSC. I also think someone must have been blocked, as I stated before.

Yes, but some have interpreted that line to mean that recruits keep any BTSC they already had, not that they get new BTSC with each other.

Russtifinko wrote:Actually, it's not a matter of belief. It says under BOB's power that recruits have BTSC. I also think someone must have been blocked, as I stated before.

No it doesn't. It says they don't lose btsc if they already have it.

there is no way any of them have survived this long if they had no btsc. they all know who each other are.

And, I would love to hear from SVS too, I want to hear her take on things. After that, I want to hear how everyone who hasnt voted yet, thinks the vote should go-

I really think the vote should go to llama. I also think we should cover mp.

What do you think Mati?

I think that too Roxy, but you know how my mind works. I have all kinds of less strong theories going thru my head. But this late in a game, I guess its always best to stick with the most obvious suspicions.

Roxy wrote:I really think the vote should go to llama. I also think we should cover mp.

What do you think Mati?

You said you thought MP was BOB, now you want to cover him. Tsk tsk, inconsistent.

all the strongest suspects have voted, that leaves 5 of us still to vote and one of the five (maybe 2, depending on whether Russ is bad or isnt) is either a recruit or Bob. Very curious to see how this is going to go

there's no reason to cover mp. Hes gotta be bob.

Llama I'd like to believe you. You seem sincere but why oh why did you vote bwt yesterday when me ans svs were screaming don't?

thellama73 wrote:Now we will see if the (irrational) desire to lynch me over Russ will prevail over the desire to cover others.

What the hell are you talking about?

I have to catch up and vote, who needs a cover vote?

Kate wrote:Llama I'd like to believe you. You seem sincere but why oh why did you vote bwt yesterday when me ans svs were screaming don't?

I guess your screaming was too subtle for me. I heard you say you didn't think BWT was bad, but nothing you said indicated certainty to me. Anyway, there was no other consensus, and I have made my opinion well known about how I feel about overly splitting the vote at this point.

Well you don't like my certainty either. Unless I'm saying that you are not bob lol.

S~V~S wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Now we will see if the (irrational) desire to lynch me over Russ will prevail over the desire to cover others.

What the hell are you talking about?

I'm talking about the fact that, if you believe me and Russ are both minions because we were covered, there is no reason to prefer that I be lynched over Russ. Yet Roxy and Mata both freaked out when Vompatti voted for Russ as if him being lynched would be a great tragedy. Why? Because they are bad and want me to go to protect their teammate.

linki w/ Kate: Fair enough. I wasn't sure I could trust you guys at the time anyway. Sorry.

What's really confusing me is, haven't we determined that Russ has to be bad? Like for sure? I think I need to read back.

Llama and Vomp both voted Russ, but they were so sure yesterday that I was full of shit when I voted for him?

And if you just had read the roles, Llama, you might have come up with a few ideas as to why i kept saying BWT was a civ without any explanation as to why i thought that. With kate, I gave reasons. With BWT I just said it.

Linki again, you think Mata & Roxy are minions?

Kate wrote:What's really confusing me is, haven't we determined that Russ has to be bad? Like for sure? I think I need to read back.

By my calculations, yes, which is why Mata and Roxy's behavior is so strange.

Linki, yeah I think Llama determined it. That post actually makes me suspect Russ LESS, lol. >.<

S~V~S wrote: Linki again, you think Mata & Roxy are minions?

I think Roxy is Bob and Mata is a minion. Could be wrong, but that's what I think.

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:What's really confusing me is, haven't we determined that Russ has to be bad? Like for sure? I think I need to read back.

By my calculations, yes, which is why Mata and Roxy's behavior is so strange.

Roxy'sbehavior is always strange:p

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote: Linki again, you think Mata & Roxy are minions?

I think Roxy is Bob and Mata is a minion. Could be wrong, but that's what I think.

I think mp is bob. Firmly.

I'm taking a break n a minute, but before you vote, please ask yourselves why Roxy and Mata are so desperate to see me lynched instead of Russ if both of us are bad?

thellama73 wrote:I'm taking a break n a minute, but before you vote, please ask yourselves why Roxy and Mata are so desperate to see me lynched instead of Russ if both of us are bad?

I don't get this either, and I admit is a good point. Very good.

I don't think Rox is bad though.

I don't think Rox is bad though.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Alex, even if you believe me to be a recruit (which I am not) why take the chance on me when you also believe Russ to be recruit and he comes from a pool of only two possibilities whereas I come from a pool of five? Also, I will help you with Russ. Math indicates that a Russ vote is the way to go. Vote Russ and fabulous prizes await.Vote me, and only sorrow and misery will follow (especially for me )

I'm down with a Russ vote, but we need to cover you as well, because you both have to be bad. We need to cover all recruits so that we lynch a baddie and then stop any NK. That's the only way we have any chance here.

Will you still vote Russ?

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote: Linki again, you think Mata & Roxy are minions?

I think Roxy is Bob and Mata is a minion. Could be wrong, but that's what I think.

Yeah, you could be wrong

Roxy is always a "?" for me, until suddenly she isnt. That said, I have not seen anything this game to make me feel like we are dealing with Bad Roxy here. Certainly Mata has not said anything to make me think she is bad either; either of them could have voted for BWT yesterday, but they didn't. They saw what i was selling, and did not blow me off. Becasue i think I was pretty freaking obvious.

You, Vomps & Russ did though. Of the three who voted BWT, I feel even less warm & fuzzy about you at this point, Llama, than i do about Russ, and that isn;t a good thing.

And doh, i thought the poll ended today, not tomorrow. I am off work tomorrow, so i will have time in the AM if we need to figure stuff out.

S~V~S wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote: Linki again, you think Mata & Roxy are minions?

I think Roxy is Bob and Mata is a minion. Could be wrong, but that's what I think.

Yeah, you could be wrong

Roxy is always a "?" for me, until suddenly she isnt. That said, I have not seen anything this game to make me feel like we are dealing with Bad Roxy here. Certainly Mata has not said anything to make me think she is bad either; either of them could have voted for BWT yesterday, but they didn't. They saw what i was selling, and did not blow me off. Becasue i think I was pretty freaking obvious.

You, Vomps & Russ did though. Of the three who voted BWT, I feel even less warm & fuzzy about you at this point, Llama, than i do about Russ, and that isn;t a good thing.

And doh, i thought the poll ended today, not tomorrow. I am off work tomorrow, so i will have time in the AM if we need to figure stuff out.

Ugh. I was really hoping you we're going to vote Russ. If they are both bad what is the logic in not voting the one with two votes who is more certainly bad?

kate, I'm having such a hard time buying this about-face.

LOL, after taking so much flack for it, now you WANT me to vote early?

If we need a coverage vote I will do that, or i will happily lynch any one of the BWT voters, Llama, Vomps or Russ. Personally I think the minions are in that group.

llama I want you gone b/c you are a much more dangerous baddie. With your thread presence, lynch plots meant to foil civ attempts, your push against Vomps who now you are best voting buddies. If Rusti is bad too then at least he is a more quieter less plan filled than you

Kate - could Rusti be wrong like you were wrong about Nev?

Matahari wrote:kate, I'm having such a hard time buying this about-face.

Huh? I've always thought Russ was bad. I've been saying it for 2 days...

S~V~S wrote:LOL, after taking so much flack for it, now you WANT me to vote early?

If we need a coverage vote I will do that, or i will happily lynch any one of the BWT voters, Llama, Vomps or Russ. Personally I think the minions are in that group.

Ok. So let's vote Russ. There are two votes on him and only four civ votes out there!

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm taking a break n a minute, but before you vote, please ask yourselves why Roxy and Mata are so desperate to see me lynched instead of Russ if both of us are bad?

I don't get this either, and I admit is a good point. Very good.

Kate why is this a good point?

Roxy wrote:llama I want you gone b/c you are a much more dangerous baddie. With your thread presence, lynch plots meant to foil civ attempts, your push against Vomps who now you are best voting buddies. If Rusti is bad too then at least he is a more quieter less plan filled than you

Kate - could Rusti be wrong like you were wrong about Nev?

Be wrong about what, voting llama? I don't know. Oh my god. This is just mean what you all are doing to me!!!

This is Kate who voted Llama yesterday talking?

Roxy wrote:

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I'm taking a break n a minute, but before you vote, please ask yourselves why Roxy and Mata are so desperate to see me lynched instead of Russ if both of us are bad?

I don't get this either, and I admit is a good point. Very good.

Kate why is this a good point?

Well as a follow up I did say I don't think you are bad. I don't understand though why you would vote llama over Russ when both are bad, Russ for sure, and he has 2 votes on him. If we split the votes now we are done.

Matahari wrote:This is Kate who voted Llama yesterday talking?

This is Kate who voted me yesterday talking sense at last.

Matahari wrote:This is Kate who voted Llama yesterday talking?

Now you are turning on me? Seriously?

Matahari wrote:This is Kate who voted Llama yesterday talking?

Things happen at night mata.

Kate, have you considered that SVS may be the day four recruit? You two have been simpatico until now, and suddenly there is divergence. I think I know who the Day 0 and Day 2 recruits are, but Day 4 I haven't been able to pin down. Could be SVS.