The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:04 am hm actually it was "ice cube tray." maybe you get frozen into cubes but that doesn't sound too bad really

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:22 pm after a nolynch mafia will probably go for a vastly townread players
we have this game pretty locked down

so we still shouldnt nolynch

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:35 am I'm voting Lunalee. Called me good. Called me bad because I called G-Man good and refused to vote for him (leaves out the part where I called sprityo a would-lynch candidate and woulda coulda dida lynch him?).

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:42 am I like you though- a lot of people would tell you to "dial it back" and "consider all angles" and blah blah blah.

You are sticking to your guns, and that's going to serve you well.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:43 am You're voting me right now, so maybe that's not the best timing for that particular piece of advice.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:12 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:35 am I'm voting Lunalee. Called me good. Called me bad because I called G-Man good and refused to vote for him (leaves out the part where I called sprityo a would-lynch candidate and woulda coulda dida lynch him?).

I trust and doubt everyone at different times when I'm town because I don't know who is good. If you decide to push for my lynch then we will lose this.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:16 pm epi i did say you have some wiggle room to be town instead of someone else
so if luna really is scum, then her partner is reywas

if you are scum then your partner is reywas

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:22 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:16 pm epi i did say you have some wiggle room to be town instead of someone else
so if luna really is scum, then her partner is reywas

if you are scum then your partner is reywas

In either scenario, you have rey as a firm mafioso.

What makes you so sure?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:54 pm so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow? :ponder:

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:23 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:17 pm I enjoy the the good place reference

Fork yeah.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:57 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:51 am Has anyone done an analysis on Sprityo's interactions? That might be helpful.

Oh wait, just found Sloonei's G-man/Sprityo interaction post:

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:29 pm G-man and sprityo:

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:39 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:27 pm G, what has that particular quintet on your naughty list?

Listing those five with more clarity this time:

-MafiaMenace & Spacedaisy haven’t had time in 72 hours to participate much. I get real life and all, but in a game this small, we can’t afford the no-show routine for very long at all. Neutral -1 for now.

-WaywardSon has 8 posts of fluff that don’t even attempt to engage the actual game element. Uncomfortable.

-JJJ warned us that he wouldn’t be around much but, even taking that into consideration, his content is meh. One cage-rattling line against sprityo and a weak, ivory-toweresque assessment of Eloh followed by a vote. The post and vote on Eloh looks contrived to me. As if he manufactured a Jay-esque enough of a reason to cast a vote far ahead enough of the deadline. Artificial vanilla?

-Nutella for reasons already stated. She went hard for low-hanging fruit in both me and now Eloh.

Indirect defense via shade at Jay. Not a great look. More of the same here.

And he repeats the process on nutella here

After a bunch more indirect mentions, G finally says something to sprityo here:

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:48 pm Looking forward to that vote analysis you promised in post #257 sprityo. Until then, your ISO is a tad underwhelming. I don’t think I’ve played many games with you yet. Your tone surprised me.

This is a nothing comment. The lightest of prods. This post doesn't even need to exist. There's an awful taste in my mouth. The opposite of vanilla.

Sprit is "neutral" in a tiered reads list.

When G-man poked us all with questions, all he had to say to sprit was "You made bro?" Again, this doesn't need to exist.

0 search results on page 2 of G-man's ISO.

I see more evidence for a partnership here than against.

This actually does make G-man look sort of bad.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:50 pm Rereading luna and this jumped out at me:

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:57 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:51 am Has anyone done an analysis on Sprityo's interactions? That might be helpful.

Oh wait, just found Sloonei's G-man/Sprityo interaction post:

Spoiler: show

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:29 pm G-man and sprityo:

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:39 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:27 pm G, what has that particular quintet on your naughty list?

Listing those five with more clarity this time:

-MafiaMenace & Spacedaisy haven’t had time in 72 hours to participate much. I get real life and all, but in a game this small, we can’t afford the no-show routine for very long at all. Neutral -1 for now.

-WaywardSon has 8 posts of fluff that don’t even attempt to engage the actual game element. Uncomfortable.

-JJJ warned us that he wouldn’t be around much but, even taking that into consideration, his content is meh. One cage-rattling line against sprityo and a weak, ivory-toweresque assessment of Eloh followed by a vote. The post and vote on Eloh looks contrived to me. As if he manufactured a Jay-esque enough of a reason to cast a vote far ahead enough of the deadline. Artificial vanilla?

-Nutella for reasons already stated. She went hard for low-hanging fruit in both me and now Eloh.

Indirect defense via shade at Jay. Not a great look. More of the same here.

And he repeats the process on nutella here

After a bunch more indirect mentions, G finally says something to sprityo here:

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:48 pm Looking forward to that vote analysis you promised in post #257 sprityo. Until then, your ISO is a tad underwhelming. I don’t think I’ve played many games with you yet. Your tone surprised me.

This is a nothing comment. The lightest of prods. This post doesn't even need to exist. There's an awful taste in my mouth. The opposite of vanilla.

Sprit is "neutral" in a tiered reads list. :ponder:

When G-man poked us all with questions, all he had to say to sprit was "You made bro?" Again, this doesn't need to exist.

0 search results on page 2 of G-man's ISO.

I see more evidence for a partnership here than against.

This actually does make G-man look sort of bad.

This is pretty opportunistic and potentially in a bad way. The initial question about sprityo interactions would be an easy way for a bad Luna to hunt for easy targets who look bad, while she knows she is safe because she just replaced in for an inactive. And boom she finds something that looks bad for a townie and latches onto it.

Other posts of hers still seem town to me though so I am still waffling on her, just thought this was worth considering.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:00 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:54 pm so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow?

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:13 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:00 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:54 pm so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow? :ponder:

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

I think I'm most okay with lynching rey right now. I'm more hesitant about epi again, and my first choice is to vote no lynch so the mafia can narrow the pool for us to choose from tomorrow.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:39 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:23 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2019 11:17 pm I enjoy the the good place reference

Fork yeah.

holy forking shirtballs! See the new episode? I'm always like how can they keep going and they keep coming up with new ideas. Has there been a good place mafia? I feel like that show was made for mafia

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:14 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:13 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:00 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:54 pm so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow?

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

I think I'm most okay with lynching rey right now. I'm more hesitant about epi again, and my first choice is to vote no lynch so the mafia can narrow the pool for us to choose from tomorrow.

the mafia arent gonna narrow it down at all
what if they kill
say nova or smth
who nobody is willing to vote rn i believe
that narrows down nothing

if youre fine with voting rey then sure
i just want a scum hang today

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:07 am

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:34 pm Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

this is the funniest thing i have read all day

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:46 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:14 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:13 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:00 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:54 pm so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow?

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

I think I'm most okay with lynching rey right now. I'm more hesitant about epi again, and my first choice is to vote no lynch so the mafia can narrow the pool for us to choose from tomorrow.

the mafia arent gonna narrow it down at all
what if they kill
say nova or smth
who nobody is willing to vote rn i believe
that narrows down nothing

if youre fine with voting rey then sure
i just want a scum hang today

Why would nobody be willing to vote for nova?

I just looked through sprityo's posts, and only found this:

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:07 am

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:34 pm Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

this is the funniest thing i have read all day

That's the only exchange the two had.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:09 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:14 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:09 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

both wayward and nova have excellent cases where they cant be scum with spirit

one of the reasons people thought i was scum was because of my minimal interactions with spirit

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:17 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:14 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:09 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

both wayward and nova have excellent cases where they cant be scum with spirit

one of the reasons people thought i was scum was because of my minimal interactions with spirit

Can you link me to those cases?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:18 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:17 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:14 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:09 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

both wayward and nova have excellent cases where they cant be scum with spirit

one of the reasons people thought i was scum was because of my minimal interactions with spirit

Can you link me to those cases?

so you didnt read my entire solving spam worth nearly a full page
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 67#p511967

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:22 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:18 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:17 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:14 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:09 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am so you think those players would decide to take an early stance against spirit? and scumread him? and shade him?
theres distancing and then theres outright throwing

I'm unsure of what you're asking.

both wayward and nova have excellent cases where they cant be scum with spirit

one of the reasons people thought i was scum was because of my minimal interactions with spirit

Can you link me to those cases?

so you didnt read my entire solving spam worth nearly a full page
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 67#p511967

I read it. I didn't commit it to memory.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:30 am I see where your head is, but I don't see how it's an "excellent" case that nova isn't bad. I'd say they're decent points.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:37 am Let me ask you a semi-related question:

When you are bad, how do you pave the way to victory? What's your plan?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:39 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:37 am Let me ask you a semi-related question:

When you are bad, how do you pave the way to victory? What's your plan?

for one thats self meta which is retarded
two that depends, im not always met with the same exact players, who use the same strategy

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:45 am https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:49 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:45 am https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:51 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:49 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:45 am https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:53 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:51 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:49 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:45 am https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

When I say "overvalue," I mean that you are putting too much confidence in that outcome.

Suppose nova got lynched today and was bad. How would that affect your opinions?

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:55 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:53 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:51 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:49 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:45 am https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

When I say "overvalue," I mean that you are putting too much confidence in that outcome.

Suppose nova got lynched today and was bad. How would that affect your opinions?

you also dont see how massive of a point that is

i know its a hypothetical but nova isnt flipping scum here
theres no world where this hypothetical is true

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:57 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:55 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:53 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:51 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:49 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:45 am https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

When I say "overvalue," I mean that you are putting too much confidence in that outcome.

Suppose nova got lynched today and was bad. How would that affect your opinions?

you also dont see how massive of a point that is

i know its a hypothetical but nova isnt flipping scum here
theres no world where this hypothetical is true

I really hope you stick around here. I say that with all sincerity.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:02 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:46 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:14 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:13 pm

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:00 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 6:54 pm so you're more sure that rey is mafia either way, but you're saying it's safer to take the risk on either epi or luna today so we can be safer tomorrow?

yes
from my pov atleast

you guys might not be as sure

so from my pov
hang someone im not sure about, but think they are scum (epi)
then get the one im certain about tomorrow (rey)

I think I'm most okay with lynching rey right now. I'm more hesitant about epi again, and my first choice is to vote no lynch so the mafia can narrow the pool for us to choose from tomorrow.

the mafia arent gonna narrow it down at all
what if they kill
say nova or smth
who nobody is willing to vote rn i believe
that narrows down nothing

if youre fine with voting rey then sure
i just want a scum hang today

Why would nobody be willing to vote for nova?

I just looked through sprityo's posts, and only found this:

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:07 am

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:41 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:34 pm Seriously though WaywardSon is a glowing red beacon of mafia. The posts are ugly. Y’all can read them and figure it out.

lol Are you considered good at this game? Just wondering.

this is the funniest thing i have read all day

That's the only exchange the two had.

I'm also open for voting Nova.

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:58 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:57 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:55 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:53 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:51 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:49 am

MafiaMenace wrote: ↑Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:45 am https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/v ... 17&t=92999
most recent scum game
i died pretty early but w/e

I appreciate it, but I'll be honest: I'm not reading that.

Your word is enough for me. I'm merely trying to get insight as to how you would judge others' moves.

You are overvaluing nova's move against sprityo because you (like me) don't like to use the tactic of lynching your teammates as leverage. Would that be a fair statement?

yes
anyone who purposely puts their teammate up on the spotlight to make themselves townier is borderline gamethrowing

When I say "overvalue," I mean that you are putting too much confidence in that outcome.

Suppose nova got lynched today and was bad. How would that affect your opinions?

you also dont see how massive of a point that is

i know its a hypothetical but nova isnt flipping scum here
theres no world where this hypothetical is true

I really hope you stick around here. I say that with all sincerity.

?
thanks but whered that come from