Escape From Trump Tower [GAME OVER]

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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 2]

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y'all i have no read on tsp but i gotta say he's great i loved that iso
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catching up, going through D1 stuff i missed/skimmed the first time around
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M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:18 pm That is, my list is entirely focused on D1 lynch as well, if that weren't clear. I'm certainly not saying to lock 112, Epi, you, etc. as town, because lol.
do you normally find civvies you can lock on D1, or is it something that doesn't happen much?
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:51 pm Crackshot baddie list: Sloonei, MP, and Jack

Delimiters of this would be LC, Nanook and Epi.
what does this mean? LC, Nanook, Epi were townreads of yours?
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M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:18 pm That is, my list is entirely focused on D1 lynch as well, if that weren't clear. I'm certainly not saying to lock 112, Epi, you, etc. as town, because lol.
Yeh, my list is similar

Curious why mac is so high on yours, is it just because he’s Mac or...?
Essentially, and it sounds strange but I don't think scum Mac would just keep popping in here to openly sheep someone. It's a weak take, but I think if he rolled scum even with other obligations he would try to come up with his own reads more. Town Mac is more extreme, either full on or sheeping like here.

That's just my perception though.
that's the perception I got too. thought it would be less likely that he'd make a point of sheeping you and not contributing as mafia, and for a more angleshooty reason not sub out while being swamped with multiple games. Town is generally less bothered about that sort of thing ime
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:46 pm Let’s say it’s nine cause ten is fucking ridiculous tbh

Currently I have Jules/nova/112/Epi/sloonei/scirrus on my no kill list, so that’s 7/9 including myself.

Who wants to stand up and be townread?
can you order these. I assume some of these you feel more solid about than others?

and your reasoning for each pls

who not in that town POE do you feel the worst about?
I don’t have an order for them and I’m not planning on having one...you’re welcome to ask for each one but I’m not gonna do a whole big reads list where I wrote a paragraph or two for each one though.

Idk yet, tbh I don’t really care right now? I’ll figure it out closer to EOD, for now my goal is just to find as many people I don’t want to kill D1 as I can and I’ll worry about sorting the rest later.
i think this is a townie perspective idk but that no kill list is a big list and I could never use that strategy
what is your preferred strategy for playing as town?
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:29 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:16 pm I absolutely hate that 4-person wagon on Sloonei. It's static. It's not pushing the game forward in any way. If there's one reason to ever lynch Mac here, that'd be one. I understand Epi's vote being there, but I'd encourage those voters to at least more actively consider other options.

If Sloonei is scum and I'm actively now arguing to avoid his lynch d1, then lol, but if he is scum I'm confident we can catch him with strong town play.
ok mp gets like a pass from me idk how to read this guy but there have been multiple good takes
which of MP's takes did you like?
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:41 pm dyslexicon more like dyslexicoutofthegame

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M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:16 pm I absolutely hate that 4-person wagon on Sloonei. It's static. It's not pushing the game forward in any way. If there's one reason to ever lynch Mac here, that'd be one. I understand Epi's vote being there, but I'd encourage those voters to at least more actively consider other options.

If Sloonei is scum and I'm actively now arguing to avoid his lynch d1, then lol, but if he is scum I'm confident we can catch him with strong town play.
What the hell is wrong with a static lynch if it's the right one?
like this
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Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:55 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:24 pm Even for those players who do think they've caught scum Sloonei, who are his teammates then? There's more work to be done. A static gamestate actively hurts our faction.
That's a Day 2 problem.
This MP quote reminded me of this MP quote:
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:48 pm MP, I'm starting to dislike your lines here.

I feel that you are drawing and encouraging lines of agreement and suspicion that aren't necessarily your own, but more so assist a narrative that is in your favor. I.e. you leave me in the null stating you don't know how you feel but at the same time leaving me at would lynch.

Your LC vote also piggy backing off Nanook.
I don't understand, what's the scum strategy I'm employing exactly?
Wilgy was pretty clear in what he was saying, and MP tries to deflect it... it's straw-mannish. "If you can't define my *scum strategy* in a way that I accept, your accusation isn't valid." Dislike.
like this too
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm I mean I'll vote for LC if nothing spicy is gonna happen
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:26 pm Look, I’m not pro Sloonei. But I am anti-anti-Sloonei.
can you break down why?
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 2]

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Sometimes I wonder why I play mafia, I am such a painstakingly slow reader

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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 2]

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Soneji wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:13 pm Have had to put this game on the far back burner due to extra workload as my city reopened+multiball priority, no walls today I'm afraid. When I do make them walls you know that they'll be the best walls, the huge walls.

I did skim read most of the game for general impressions, and Slooeni looks like a good lynch as his push on juliets n0 was rather forced, and since then he's just been weakly defending himself with a lot of AtE. Long Con has more bite in his pushback against MP7, but the lack of a vote onto MP7 is concerning.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine
What about the lack of a vote do you find scummy? Do you think town!Sloonei is less likely to self-pres and try to get M+ lynched instead?
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 pm
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm Honestly I could maybe be talked into wilgy or scirrus

why? What have they done?
For some reason I’m inclined to believe dizzy’s wilgy read despite logic saying not to

Scirrus feels sort of scummy in a holistic way but I’m not gonna be able to pin down why in a satisfactory way with 30 minutes left tbh
Can you try pinning it down why now why? If you still feel that way, that is
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 2]

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Is it just me or did the site interface just completely change.

My eyes are blinded by the whiteness rn
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 2]

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Not just you happened to me too.
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You quoted me but I don’t see a question or a statement after it...?
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 2]

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*fixed, my bad lol
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:07 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:05 pm Honestly I could maybe be talked into wilgy or scirrus
why? What have they done?
For some reason I’m inclined to believe dizzy’s wilgy read despite logic saying not to

Scirrus feels sort of scummy in a holistic way but I’m not gonna be able to pin down why in a satisfactory way with 30 minutes left tbh
Can you try pinning it down why now why? If you still feel that way, that is
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Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t even read the quoted part clearly 😂
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Scirrus wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:46 am Is it just me or did the site interface just completely change.

My eyes are blinded by the whiteness rn
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Scirrus wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:46 am Is it just me or did the site interface just completely change.

My eyes are blinded by the whiteness rn
Yup. I have no idea what is causing this. You should hopefully be able to change it back to Black by going to the User control panel -> Board preferences -> Edit global settings -> My board style, select Black from the drop down menu. But I've had to do that twice now myself within the last 5 minutes.

We'll try to figure out what's causing this.
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Sloonei wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:55 am
Scirrus wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:46 am Is it just me or did the site interface just completely change.

My eyes are blinded by the whiteness rn
Yup. I have no idea what is causing this. You should hopefully be able to change it back to Black by going to the User control panel -> Board preferences -> Edit global settings -> My board style, select Black from the drop down menu. But I've had to do that twice now myself within the last 5 minutes.

We'll try to figure out what's causing this.
Lol, I didn't realize it was just that it was a different skin lol as the avatars swapped sides too. Thanks
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Update: Boo is just working to fix another issue that popped up today, and the prosilver background is less of technical headache for that. So it's under control, I suppose. Apologies for the inconvenience/blinding white light.
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bah. The game stipulates that I can't edit posts but that's just me making an administrative announcement, but i gotsta follow them rules. G-man outranks me here, as we've already seen.
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M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:24 pm TSP does have a bit of the TWTBAW (too wolfy to be a wolf) thing going on too.
I am, in fact, not a wolf. Let's just assume, as a hypothetical, that I was a wolf. So, in this world, hypothetically, I'm here typing this out, while being a wolf. That doesn't make any sense. Wolves can't type. As far as I know, they can't even speak English. So therefore, I'm not a wolf. Now that that's established, let's move on. It's clear that there do exist wolves.
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@gman when you get around to it, can you add the Sprityo ISO link to the main page? I'm still old fashioned and don't want to click on the button on the side.
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How in the name of the lord jesus christ do I have 55 posts right now I haven't said anything
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Epignosis wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:52 pm
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:16 pm Does LC get mislynched often, and are his reactions do getting lynched different? Like I feel like a general tell for people on my homesite is they are more defiant about being lynched when they are town. But it's often specific for the player
Do you really expect an objective answer to this question and if you did, what would you even do with that information?
As to my first question, yes. People can get lynched often, rarely, sometimes, or never! And for some people, reactions to getting lynched vary based on alignment. I would probably be less likely to want to lynch someone that gets lynched often for their playstyle. I was getting that vibe from his posts and I wanted to see if my vibes matched with other people's. And vice versa if he was someone who didn't get lynched often.
Epignosis wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:53 pm
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:18 pm I don't think Sloonei should be lynched
On what basis?
I liked how Sloonei was pushing me close to EoD, seemed like he was taking more of a stance of people, and seemed more interested in the game beyond simply avoiding his lynch, if that makes sense.
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Scirrus wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:13 am
what is your preferred strategy for playing as town?
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i am not a fan of this color
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Scirrus wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:46 am Is it just me or did the site interface just completely change.

My eyes are blinded by the whiteness rn
ikr it's like i'm back in my home town damnit syndicate i didn't ask for this
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The light theme appears to still be fine
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It’s a little past midnight and my whole neighborhood has no power, this is the only site or even application my phone is able to load since it’s simple
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Boo is done fixing the problem that caused the display settings to change. If you’re still stuck on the prosilver display, you can go back to black by following these instructions:
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Re: Escape From Trump Tower [DAY 1]

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Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:54 pm
Scirrus wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:47 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:40 pm
Scirrus wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:36 pm Oh for anyone new to me (that's probably most of you) feel free to ask me whatever you want!
I've played on and off on another site (PersonalityCafe) for about a year and a half, 20 or so games. I know Dizzy but that's about it.
What is your general approach to the game? What will you be looking for on Day 1 and later on?
Nothing real specific. I rely pretty heavily on meta reading on my other site lol, but that won't work here.

Prolly just gonna prod around where I think something should be prodded at.

I think the ideal way of approaching the game is building a town core of people you can trust and solving scum through POE

My approach to later days isn't much different except obviously you have flips and interactions you can work with
Terrific. Let's see what happens.
Scirrus wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.
Tell me a little bit about Sloonei

Does he have trouble keeping a town mindset as scum?

I agree that not wanting solid reads is not really a pro-town thing to say

But I feel like experienced scum would try to avoid saying things like that, because they would look bad. And he strikes me as an experienced player
I would love to know why Sloonei struck you as an experienced player. You noted earlier that you only knew Dyslexicon.

It was a vibe read! Mostly from the questions he was asking but tbh my view was biased by multiple people's comments toward him, Juliets, Nanook, etc. I believe i've heard his name dropped in the champs specchat as well, he was a representative of your site before, no?
Scirrus wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:51 pm So here are some thoughts n stuff!


epignosis - pushed me and asked for my read on sloonei which I like. Seems very "lets get to the point" which i tend to associate with towniness. Gives out reads early and seems to have done the most to advance the gamestate, which i also associate with town

nova - i liked that he gave reads at the beginning, i think there was something else i liked but i don't remember atm lol

sloonei - null. want to hear what more people say about him. i don't really like that he asks a lot of questions but hasn't given much in the way of reads

juliets - seems pretty agreeable, i have a slight scum vibe, but that just be becuase i don't know her playstyle. a couple things like her assuming ppl should think she has scum reads, announcing she would ask the mod about the mechanics, etc found odd. but i can't decide if they're scummy or just player quirk things

everyone else - idk. post more. make yoselfs known k thx
I have a problem with this.

You've already asked me about Sloonei and I've already answered. Then you don't express an opinion one way or another and claim you want to hear what more people have to say about him.

That's trash.

If you're a civilian, you get out there as engage Sloonei yourself. You don't need to rely on the opinions of others. You are waiting for permission to vote for Sloonei. You are not trying to figure out if Sloonei is on your side by talking to him.

Nah, I'm trying to form a read on Sloonei in my own way. It's just not your way. Truth be told, I'm not very confident in my ability to read people without meta. I only really play on my site. So I like gathering opinions. Often multiple! And sometimes I even reject those opinions too...I'm quite the fickle character.
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:15 am it's late so I will take my leave but will post some things

not lynching myself, 112, nanook, epi, juliets, MPlus, probably nova?

would rather not lynch the ppl who posted like 2 things cuz wouldnt tell us much but ya they should post, think that was Soneji & Funnygurl?

Long Con in particular was kinda odd, he asked me a question about "Fair Enough" out of everything in the thread which i found weird, and then a few posts that seemed off topic. Curious about what about that question specifically piqued his interest

Fine with my vote on Sloonei for now, want some pressure to be there

Dizzy idk probably not today I guess tho his claim is pretty meh
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:16 am Although considering how few wagons/votes there are on people I doubt anyone is feeling much pressure right now
Heh heh, ho boy, right guys? :grin:

I stand by what I said. When the vote cout is like 2 votes on 5 people, who's feeling pressure? No one.

And no, it's not me winking at anyone.
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:25 pm
juliets wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:24 pm
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:21 pm Anything anyone want we to specifically look at? I'm running on little sleep and a lotta caffeine so my reading comprehension is not the best rn
Can you talk about your vote for LC? Just a simple answer to "why" will be sufficient.
Yes, I voted to make it a tie between Sloonei and LC to make things more...interesting I guess. So then we could see who would then break the tie from one way to the other for whatever reason

I actually have no read on LC other than the slight suspicion I had on him yesterday. GTH I would rather lynch Sloonei though, if i'm being honest
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FIxed response to [mention]Epignosis[/mention] in spoiler below, my apologies
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Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:40 pm
Scirrus wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:36 pm Oh for anyone new to me (that's probably most of you) feel free to ask me whatever you want!
I've played on and off on another site (PersonalityCafe) for about a year and a half, 20 or so games. I know Dizzy but that's about it.
What is your general approach to the game? What will you be looking for on Day 1 and later on?
Nothing real specific. I rely pretty heavily on meta reading on my other site lol, but that won't work here.

Prolly just gonna prod around where I think something should be prodded at.

I think the ideal way of approaching the game is building a town core of people you can trust and solving scum through POE

My approach to later days isn't much different except obviously you have flips and interactions you can work with
Terrific. Let's see what happens.
Scirrus wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:52 pm A civilian Sloonei would love "solid reads at this point." It gives him a chance to figure things out later.

Sloonei is not a civilian. Lynch him now.
Tell me a little bit about Sloonei

Does he have trouble keeping a town mindset as scum?

I agree that not wanting solid reads is not really a pro-town thing to say

But I feel like experienced scum would try to avoid saying things like that, because they would look bad. And he strikes me as an experienced player
I would love to know why Sloonei struck you as an experienced player. You noted earlier that you only knew Dyslexicon.
It was a vibe read! Mostly from the questions he was asking but tbh my view was biased by multiple people's comments toward him, Juliets, Nanook, etc. I believe i've heard his name dropped in the champs specchat as well, he was a representative of your site before, no?



Scirrus wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:51 pm So here are some thoughts n stuff!


epignosis - pushed me and asked for my read on sloonei which I like. Seems very "lets get to the point" which i tend to associate with towniness. Gives out reads early and seems to have done the most to advance the gamestate, which i also associate with town

nova - i liked that he gave reads at the beginning, i think there was something else i liked but i don't remember atm lol

sloonei - null. want to hear what more people say about him. i don't really like that he asks a lot of questions but hasn't given much in the way of reads

juliets - seems pretty agreeable, i have a slight scum vibe, but that just be becuase i don't know her playstyle. a couple things like her assuming ppl should think she has scum reads, announcing she would ask the mod about the mechanics, etc found odd. but i can't decide if they're scummy or just player quirk things

everyone else - idk. post more. make yoselfs known k thx
Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:54 pm I have a problem with this.

You've already asked me about Sloonei and I've already answered. Then you don't express an opinion one way or another and claim you want to hear what more people have to say about him.

That's trash.

If you're a civilian, you get out there as engage Sloonei yourself. You don't need to rely on the opinions of others. You are waiting for permission to vote for Sloonei. You are not trying to figure out if Sloonei is on your side by talking to him.
Nah, I'm trying to form a read on Sloonei in my own way. It's just not your way. Truth be told, I'm not very confident in my ability to read people without meta. I only really play on my site. So I like gathering opinions. Often multiple! And sometimes I even reject those opinions too...I'm quite the fickle character.

Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:54 pm
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:15 am it's late so I will take my leave but will post some things

not lynching myself, 112, nanook, epi, juliets, MPlus, probably nova?

would rather not lynch the ppl who posted like 2 things cuz wouldnt tell us much but ya they should post, think that was Soneji & Funnygurl?

Long Con in particular was kinda odd, he asked me a question about "Fair Enough" out of everything in the thread which i found weird, and then a few posts that seemed off topic. Curious about what about that question specifically piqued his interest

Fine with my vote on Sloonei for now, want some pressure to be there

Dizzy idk probably not today I guess tho his claim is pretty meh
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:16 am Although considering how few wagons/votes there are on people I doubt anyone is feeling much pressure right now
Heh heh, ho boy, right guys? :grin:
I stand by what I said. When the vote cout is like 2 votes on 5 people, who's feeling pressure? No one.

And no, it's not me winking at anyone.
Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:54 pm
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:25 pm
juliets wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:24 pm
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 8:21 pm Anything anyone want we to specifically look at? I'm running on little sleep and a lotta caffeine so my reading comprehension is not the best rn
Can you talk about your vote for LC? Just a simple answer to "why" will be sufficient.
Yes, I voted to make it a tie between Sloonei and LC to make things more...interesting I guess. So then we could see who would then break the tie from one way to the other for whatever reason

I actually have no read on LC other than the slight suspicion I had on him yesterday. GTH I would rather lynch Sloonei though, if i'm being honest
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You are mafia and I'm sorry I thought otherwise Day 1.

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These is pretty much all Day 1 Reads save for Epi’s read on me

112 - Their posts seemed fine but didn’t stand out too much to me, had a null-town lean but them not being around for EoD gives me less of an impression on them.

DrWilgy - Feel like most of their reads have been pretty much consensus and not very spicy, except for the early push on M+7. His EoD was kinda strange, more purely self-pres than Sloon/LC. I liked some of his takes about refusing to lynch strong players until later days and I feel like there was another one i liked but idr

Dizzy - Earlier I was actually thinking he could still be mafia BS’ing a 3P claim bc of his weird 3P philosophy but i’m over that now. Still a little annoyed that he’s not really solving with us but whatever. I get it.

Epignosis - Still town. Everyone reads him as town as well so I’m hoping this is just one of them freebies. I bet he’s not going to like that I said that lol. Tbh I like his push and questions on me. Little does he know that I’m not mafia, I just suck lol

Funnygirl - She seems alright. I feel like her tone has been good and her reaction at the end of day to her vote switch seemed genuine. If she’s some scum mastermind guys pls let me know kthx.

Long Con - I think town now, his reaction to everything going on at EoD just makes me think he’s alone.

M+7 - I liked his initial energy and posting at the beginning but he’s trending down a bit for me. His EoD felt kinda strange. I think it’s likely one of he and wilgy are mafia, I feel like their interactions are t/m. Will prob stew more on this because I haven’t really gone Day 2 Posts yet

MacDougall - Not much there but leaning town for dumb reasons

Nanook - Jack gave him a townread, Nanook linked to his site for meta there and I believe what he says about it because ya I just do.

Sloonei - I still find him difficult to read but I would lean GTH town, I think. I just like how he was during EoD. My read isn’t much more developed than that as of now, sorry

Soneji - Only game related thing they’ve done is push on Sloonei and ask about LC being allergic to voting. Sloonei was the main wagon at the time. Pretty meh.

Juliets - I found juliets towny for the most part (despite my initial scum lean at the beginning lol) and I believe her reason for not being around at EOD.

TSP - don’t really seem to care about a town core or town reads much from what i’ve seen. They have their tunnel on juliets, “i’m not pro-sloonei but i’m anti-anti sloonei”, “i’d lynch wilgy”, “guess i’ll go for long con” not really vibin’ dawg
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Fight me scum. My body is ready.

I'll read/post thoughts on D2 tmw. Good night, my compadres
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It’s funny cause my town core is everyone
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Okay I'm not really a mafia expert, so I'd appreciate it if someone would solve the game so I can get back to conspiracy theories.

Gonna read some pages and vote for the first scummy thing I find.
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Okay I'm gonna say it's Sprityo, MP, and uhh let's say LC. I feel pretty good about this.
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lol i think scirrus is town
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I'll be around for the last few hrs. at work rn
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Long Con wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:43 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:44 pmLet's refrain from angleshooting.
:shrug: I think Wilgy is town.
Is there any way you can help me understand that perspective?
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112 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:40 pm I'm going to be reading up in about an hour and a half after I have supper. I've had a bad day--Daniel Powter is singing about it--and I'm a bit bogged down by some work I've been doing.

I have noticed the votes on me and to respond to @M Plus 7 about the Scirrus read: I don't remember when I made my core post, but I ISOd Scirrus a bit in the interim and found them towny. :shrug: Lots to say, thoughts don't seem fabricated, thought I'd bump them up. Don't know what else to say on that and it makes me feel like MP is really digging when he brings it up.
What did you like in the Scirrus ISO specifically?
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Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:39 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:47 pm
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Epignosis wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:59 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:27 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:26 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:25 pm Ok, things are still fluid. MP vote anyone? [VOTE: MP] aubergine
seriously what are you even doing my man, how the fuck could I post all this shit as wolf?
Don't you do this every game?
Do what? How could I force this exact tone and content?
Are you saying you are incapable of this? I can post threads and threads of counterexamples.

And I don't give a shit how much a person posts. You doing get points for it. I'm not JJJ or Sloonei.
Then why did you read me as town in Banjo exactly?
How the hell should I know? That was many beers ago.
Lmao, I understand.
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Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:40 pm
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M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 12:16 am
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:22 pm That really sucked, I'm sorry I wasn't less distracted to try to prevent the tie result, and I didn't know that was going to happen until others pointed it out.

With that said, I realize I got a bit OMGUSy and heated myself. I'm sorry Wilgy because I was probably tunneling you and I just wanted to save Sloonei. Fwiw I still don't know what planet LC is playing this game on, lol, and I do not at all mean that in a bad way, but I'm sorry if I frustrated you. I was going to respond to your post about the Wilgy thing, but if you go back and read around those posts I quoted, I was the first one to talk about him, so I don't understand your interpretation at all?

I'll need some time away anyway to do other things, but it'll allow for digging upon my return. See you all whenever.
In what universe do you apologize to someone you didn't successfully lynch? Is Wilgy bad or not?

And why are you trying to save Sloonei Day 1 when Sloonei was here in MP's shit:
M Plus 7 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:57 pm MP7 reads list thingy

Town for now -- [would never lynch right now]
112
Epignosis
Scirrus


Town lean -- [would prefer not to lynch]
juliets
Nanook


Upper POE -- [would passively consider lynch]
Dyslexicon
Long Con
MacDougall
nova


Lower POE -- [would actively consider lynch]
DrWilgy
Funnygurl
Jack
Sloonei
Soneji
Stop quoting shit out of context. I had MULTIPLE reads lists and shifted Sloonei rather quickly after that to "let's give X another day here" and spoke ad nauseam about it.

Seems to me you're trying to take my stuff to fit your own narrative.
Maybe you'd better move me somewhere else on your little rainbow then. :grin:
Just because I think you're doing that doesn't necessarily mean I think you're scum.
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112 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:14 pm I don't understand why MP thinks my reads would have stayed static across more than one day of gameplay. That's not something I really know how to dispute other than to say that as the game develops a player usually adjusts their reads.

Does he not think Scirrus is townish?
Sigh, I feel like no one is understanding me this game, which apparently is a me problem then?

I'm not trying to say your reads should have done anything. I'm just trying to understand what inspired the change.
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Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:13 pm I'm here and nobody wants to talk.

Okay.
I want to talk!

I actually like your Scirrus case. I can support that. [VOTE: SCIRRUS] aubergine
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Funnygurl555 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:24 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:23 pm @Funnygurl555, I am super interested in interacting with you specifically at some point too, let's try to plan that.
hey hey hey how it be
Not bad! How about you? What are your most updated reads and stuff?
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Funnygurl555 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:43 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:48 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:44 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:40 pm I think we are looking at the mafia version of M Plus 7 here personally. I can sense the mania of mafia MP in his play.

Sloonei you are voting with TSP. Last time I checked you were voting ON TSP. Do you care about that at all?
Elaborate on that please.
The thing about sensing things in people is that you can't elaborate on them. I can put it into other words for you though.

I have come to consider voluminous content as a hallmark of MP's play regardless of alignment. The differentiator to me isn't the volume it's whether MP has moments of mania, or perhaps a better word would be stressposting. I feel like you stresspost less when you are town. I feel like when you are town you are much more stoic. I have seen you stressposting in this game more than I can consider justifiable.
M Plus 7 wrote: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:50 pm Mac I’m stress posting because I have no information in this game so I genuinely don’t know what the fuck is going on. I’m also multi gaming and teaching multiple 5 week summer courses over the internet. I would rather not discuss out of game reasons but those are certainly influencing me here so I felt compelled to say them.
this was a scummy reply. you're admitting that you're playing to your wolf meta here
*facepalm*
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Funnygurl has the distinct idgaf attitude that I town-read her for in Assassin’s Creed.
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There have now been many instances where I cannot possibly fathom why someone got an impression from a post or series of posts of mine in this game. What's the deal with that?
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Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:33 pm WOW, ok, I vote Sloonei. I like Wilgy as town.
What made you think Wilgy's reaction to getting voted was towny?
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:22 pm That really sucked, I'm sorry I wasn't less distracted to try to prevent the tie result, and I didn't know that was going to happen until others pointed it out.

With that said, I realize I got a bit OMGUSy and heated myself. I'm sorry Wilgy because I was probably tunneling you and I just wanted to save Sloonei. Fwiw I still don't know what planet LC is playing this game on, lol, and I do not at all mean that in a bad way, but I'm sorry if I frustrated you. I was going to respond to your post about the Wilgy thing, but if you go back and read around those posts I quoted, I was the first one to talk about him, so I don't understand your interpretation at all?

I'll need some time away anyway to do other things, but it'll allow for digging upon my return. See you all whenever.
Eh something about this post pings me the wrong way. I’m not sure if I believe you about the tie and if especially if Wilgy is town then I don’t like this at all.

M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:27 pm Yes, but at least from an enjoyment perspective even though no lynching is always dumb, at least everyone gets to play the game longer. :beer:
Don’t like this either lol
112 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:30 pm Sorry. I would've been here but didn't know eod was happening. I'm used to 10pm pst on my homesite.
I really hope you're telling the truth about this bc this is such a lame lie as scum and it would make me REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Like I seriously feel like I'm speaking in a different game thread than some of you all.
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Scirrus wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:19 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:33 pm WOW, ok, I vote Sloonei. I like Wilgy as town.
What made you think Wilgy's reaction to getting voted was towny?
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:22 pm That really sucked, I'm sorry I wasn't less distracted to try to prevent the tie result, and I didn't know that was going to happen until others pointed it out.

With that said, I realize I got a bit OMGUSy and heated myself. I'm sorry Wilgy because I was probably tunneling you and I just wanted to save Sloonei. Fwiw I still don't know what planet LC is playing this game on, lol, and I do not at all mean that in a bad way, but I'm sorry if I frustrated you. I was going to respond to your post about the Wilgy thing, but if you go back and read around those posts I quoted, I was the first one to talk about him, so I don't understand your interpretation at all?

I'll need some time away anyway to do other things, but it'll allow for digging upon my return. See you all whenever.
Eh something about this post pings me the wrong way. I’m not sure if I believe you about the tie and if especially if Wilgy is town then I don’t like this at all.

M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:27 pm Yes, but at least from an enjoyment perspective even though no lynching is always dumb, at least everyone gets to play the game longer. :beer:
Don’t like this either lol
112 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:30 pm Sorry. I would've been here but didn't know eod was happening. I'm used to 10pm pst on my homesite.
I really hope you're telling the truth about this bc this is such a lame lie as scum and it would make me REEEEEEEEEEEEE
What about the post specifically?

How am I supposed to tell whether any of you actually believe this?
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M Plus 7 wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:21 pm
Scirrus wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:19 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:33 pm WOW, ok, I vote Sloonei. I like Wilgy as town.
What made you think Wilgy's reaction to getting voted was towny?
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:22 pm That really sucked, I'm sorry I wasn't less distracted to try to prevent the tie result, and I didn't know that was going to happen until others pointed it out.

With that said, I realize I got a bit OMGUSy and heated myself. I'm sorry Wilgy because I was probably tunneling you and I just wanted to save Sloonei. Fwiw I still don't know what planet LC is playing this game on, lol, and I do not at all mean that in a bad way, but I'm sorry if I frustrated you. I was going to respond to your post about the Wilgy thing, but if you go back and read around those posts I quoted, I was the first one to talk about him, so I don't understand your interpretation at all?

I'll need some time away anyway to do other things, but it'll allow for digging upon my return. See you all whenever.
Eh something about this post pings me the wrong way. I’m not sure if I believe you about the tie and if especially if Wilgy is town then I don’t like this at all.

M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:27 pm Yes, but at least from an enjoyment perspective even though no lynching is always dumb, at least everyone gets to play the game longer. :beer:
Don’t like this either lol
112 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:30 pm Sorry. I would've been here but didn't know eod was happening. I'm used to 10pm pst on my homesite.
I really hope you're telling the truth about this bc this is such a lame lie as scum and it would make me REEEEEEEEEEEEE
What about the post specifically?

How am I supposed to tell whether any of you actually believe this?
It seems fake and apologetic to me
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Scirrus wrote: Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:13 am catching up, going through D1 stuff i missed/skimmed the first time around
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M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:18 pm That is, my list is entirely focused on D1 lynch as well, if that weren't clear. I'm certainly not saying to lock 112, Epi, you, etc. as town, because lol.
do you normally find civvies you can lock on D1, or is it something that doesn't happen much?
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:51 pm Crackshot baddie list: Sloonei, MP, and Jack

Delimiters of this would be LC, Nanook and Epi.
what does this mean? LC, Nanook, Epi were townreads of yours?
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:23 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:18 pm That is, my list is entirely focused on D1 lynch as well, if that weren't clear. I'm certainly not saying to lock 112, Epi, you, etc. as town, because lol.
Yeh, my list is similar

Curious why mac is so high on yours, is it just because he’s Mac or...?
Essentially, and it sounds strange but I don't think scum Mac would just keep popping in here to openly sheep someone. It's a weak take, but I think if he rolled scum even with other obligations he would try to come up with his own reads more. Town Mac is more extreme, either full on or sheeping like here.

That's just my perception though.
that's the perception I got too. thought it would be less likely that he'd make a point of sheeping you and not contributing as mafia, and for a more angleshooty reason not sub out while being swamped with multiple games. Town is generally less bothered about that sort of thing ime
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:18 am
Scirrus wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:09 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:46 pm Let’s say it’s nine cause ten is fucking ridiculous tbh

Currently I have Jules/nova/112/Epi/sloonei/scirrus on my no kill list, so that’s 7/9 including myself.

Who wants to stand up and be townread?
can you order these. I assume some of these you feel more solid about than others?

and your reasoning for each pls

who not in that town POE do you feel the worst about?
I don’t have an order for them and I’m not planning on having one...you’re welcome to ask for each one but I’m not gonna do a whole big reads list where I wrote a paragraph or two for each one though.

Idk yet, tbh I don’t really care right now? I’ll figure it out closer to EOD, for now my goal is just to find as many people I don’t want to kill D1 as I can and I’ll worry about sorting the rest later.
i think this is a townie perspective idk but that no kill list is a big list and I could never use that strategy
what is your preferred strategy for playing as town?
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:29 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:16 pm I absolutely hate that 4-person wagon on Sloonei. It's static. It's not pushing the game forward in any way. If there's one reason to ever lynch Mac here, that'd be one. I understand Epi's vote being there, but I'd encourage those voters to at least more actively consider other options.

If Sloonei is scum and I'm actively now arguing to avoid his lynch d1, then lol, but if he is scum I'm confident we can catch him with strong town play.
ok mp gets like a pass from me idk how to read this guy but there have been multiple good takes
which of MP's takes did you like?
Funnygurl555 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:41 pm dyslexicon more like dyslexicoutofthegame

hahahaha
gottem

FG 1 Dizzy 0
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:53 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:16 pm I absolutely hate that 4-person wagon on Sloonei. It's static. It's not pushing the game forward in any way. If there's one reason to ever lynch Mac here, that'd be one. I understand Epi's vote being there, but I'd encourage those voters to at least more actively consider other options.

If Sloonei is scum and I'm actively now arguing to avoid his lynch d1, then lol, but if he is scum I'm confident we can catch him with strong town play.
What the hell is wrong with a static lynch if it's the right one?
like this
Long Con wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:00 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:55 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:24 pm Even for those players who do think they've caught scum Sloonei, who are his teammates then? There's more work to be done. A static gamestate actively hurts our faction.
That's a Day 2 problem.
This MP quote reminded me of this MP quote:
M Plus 7 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:03 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:48 pm MP, I'm starting to dislike your lines here.

I feel that you are drawing and encouraging lines of agreement and suspicion that aren't necessarily your own, but more so assist a narrative that is in your favor. I.e. you leave me in the null stating you don't know how you feel but at the same time leaving me at would lynch.

Your LC vote also piggy backing off Nanook.
I don't understand, what's the scum strategy I'm employing exactly?
Wilgy was pretty clear in what he was saying, and MP tries to deflect it... it's straw-mannish. "If you can't define my *scum strategy* in a way that I accept, your accusation isn't valid." Dislike.
like this too
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:06 pm I mean I'll vote for LC if nothing spicy is gonna happen
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 7:26 pm Look, I’m not pro Sloonei. But I am anti-anti-Sloonei.
can you break down why?
I play to establish a towncore early. I naturally always re-assess it throughout the game. So I wouldn't say what happened in this game is super bizarre, although I will say that I feel much less certain about things than I usually do because I feel like half of this thread is being cuckoo bananas.
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