The Syndicate

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:19 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:17 am

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:09 am paopan has not pushed an actual read of consequence in this game. d1 jumped on the god awful ml of sig and does not deserve a pass for that whatsoever, then d2 named people as scum constantly and never gave any reasons for it. (legitimately, scroll through pao's ISO and try to find any reasons for scumreading people.) then voted wilgy's cw after getting cold feet on wilgy.

i'm not dead set on pao being scum but i absolutely think this is the logical kill for today

Ngl Paopan's vote record is wolfy af. That's why I have them in my PoE as well.

i just don't want everyone to be reading this game based on votes and nothing else. bussing is an essential part of mountainous mafia. i currently am operating in the poe of people who are linked to wilgy by vote logic but i'm not married to that and i don't want everyone to just read two days of votes and then stop trying to solve the game.

That's a valid thought. Reading votes in important, yet far from the only tool to use in Forum Mafia.

I don't listen and require feedbacks from my 99% wolf.
Just turbo MC for today so we can move forward.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:13 am I don't listen and require feedbacks from my 99% wolf.
Just turbo MC for today so we can move forward.

So scummy

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:43 am

MightyQ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:38 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:18 am

MightyQ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:16 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:11 am MightyQ needs to actually join the game at this stage

The reason is, this game isn't my forte of deducing things. I prefer to have cold hard evidence from roles, but I don't have that and tbh I was kinda thrust into this game. That said, I think it's you as well Falcon, you or Miss Carosel.

Are you able to give 3 reasons why both MissC & I are scum?

1. MC was very aggrrsive in some posts, more than usual.
2. Yer still pushing on me even though I've been derp cleared on several occasions
3. Call it a hunch, every single one of the deductions can be summed up to carefully-placed hunches, and you two are my hunches. I don't like the way suddenly stuff is blowing back, but I am pretty sure it's one of you two by the way yer responding to this.

what do you mean by your first point. you don't know me so why are you reading me as more or less aggressive "than usual"

In comparison to previous posts

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:46 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:13 am I don't listen and require feedbacks from my 99% wolf.
Just turbo MC for today so we can move forward.

So scummy

Damn. That remark makes me wonder if you really are the lone wolf.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:33 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:46 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:13 am I don't listen and require feedbacks from my 99% wolf.
Just turbo MC for today so we can move forward.

So scummy

Damn. That remark makes me wonder if you really are the lone wolf.

Oh well. it doesn't really matter.
If MC somehow flips town. You're next.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:17 am To be honest. Regardless of alignment
I would never kill both players as the interaction of both amuses me since the beginning of this game. I love having both players up the very late stages of the game.
It goes against my principles on killing the interesting players. As I have shown in my day 1 actions.
I would rather lynch AFK/low-poster, unsolvable town player instead of a scumleaning one because of their d1 statements.

That's all for today.
Hope this statement clears me from your scum list (except to MC and Falcon).

You would rather lynch a low poster? Then why are you off MightyQ?

Having a lynch unsolvable town/low poster strategy, yet having MightyQ has your #1 town...



Makes no sense at all

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:29 am So MissC, I'm sure there's a wolf in you/Paopan.
If you're the villager, you're going to have to help me see the light so we can end this game preferably today.

I feel MissC is town here.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:58 am Like if it is MightyQ, I’m hoping Paopan can figure it out and turn things around.

Why don't you take a look at Mac's read on Pao?

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:04 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:57 am

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:42 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:40 am If Miss Caro gonna stop my chances on Falcon aka Wolf yeet then I just gotta vote them.
They are also a suspect as well.

damn it's almost like that's why i wouldn't do that if i were a wolf

Then you can say the same for Paopan who your voting because he’s doing the same with MightyQ instead of Falcon.

idk what the fuck paopan's doing with the mightyQ read and in attempting to inquire about it got a hostile non-answer, so i don't know.

but i don't feel like you're evaluating me or the game based on actual reads on whether somebody is town or wolf you just have like one or two opinions and you vote or push people based on whether or not they'll go along with you or not

I stated my opinions and I vote within them.
I look at our options and I choose either the best one I see at the time or if it’s unavailable I choose the next best option that will go through.

MightyQ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:01 am

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:43 am

MightyQ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:38 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:18 am

MightyQ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:16 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:11 am MightyQ needs to actually join the game at this stage

The reason is, this game isn't my forte of deducing things. I prefer to have cold hard evidence from roles, but I don't have that and tbh I was kinda thrust into this game. That said, I think it's you as well Falcon, you or Miss Carosel.

Are you able to give 3 reasons why both MissC & I are scum?

1. MC was very aggrrsive in some posts, more than usual.
2. Yer still pushing on me even though I've been derp cleared on several occasions
3. Call it a hunch, every single one of the deductions can be summed up to carefully-placed hunches, and you two are my hunches. I don't like the way suddenly stuff is blowing back, but I am pretty sure it's one of you two by the way yer responding to this.

what do you mean by your first point. you don't know me so why are you reading me as more or less aggressive "than usual"

In comparison to previous posts

is that a wolfy trait?

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:15 am Porscha probably isn't the last wolf as they were the counter wagon to Wilgy, a flipped mafia.
Gav turning around and helping Wilgy go over by rand doesn't feel like a bus.
MightyQ feels like a clueless town because of how disconnected they feel from the game, which doesn't feel faked.
I still have Falcon as a town lean/read.

Therefore, my PoE is Paopan/MissC and i'm leaning towards the former as town here.

Are we sure both Por and Wilgy aren’t the team?
Like Mac had a point before he died where he mentioned the way Wilgy was talking about my vote on him and saving Por.

As if Por was Mafia and he was ready to push me again the next day.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:13 am I don't listen and require feedbacks from my 99% wolf.
Just turbo MC for today so we can move forward.

why do you actively avoid solving? does shutting down content help town today and on future days if i flip town?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:07 pm Gav with that last minute attempt to save Porsch from the tie tho

Like this gives me them buss vibes.

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:49 am

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:46 am why is the idea that someone might bus in a mountainous game that shocking?

It's not out of the realm of possibility tbh.
Fmpov, if there was a busser on Wilgy it would have to be Gav/Paopan.

When did Paopan vote Wilgy?
Stop confusing the Day 1 Sig wagon lol.

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:38 am Hmm I should keep an eye out for who seemed deflated after Wilgy flipped.
Whoever seems to be solving more after a wolf flip is > rand V from where I'm at.

Ah speaking of solving where’s your reads?
Paopan, Miss Caro and Even myself gave ours.

You know who didn’t give a full readslist though?
That’s right!
Falcon and MightyQ!

@CRichard
Hey whenever your ready to vote Falcon, you have my vote!

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:43 am

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:17 am To be honest. Regardless of alignment
I would never kill both players as the interaction of both amuses me since the beginning of this game. I love having both players up the very late stages of the game.
It goes against my principles on killing the interesting players. As I have shown in my day 1 actions.
I would rather lynch AFK/low-poster, unsolvable town player instead of a scumleaning one because of their d1 statements.

That's all for today.
Hope this statement clears me from your scum list (except to MC and Falcon).

You would rather lynch a low poster? Then why are you off MightyQ?

Wow uninvested AND would rather do discrediting statements then solves.
@CRichard
If this is your town CRichard then WoWE

He’s so Uninvested he didn’t even realize the part when Paopan put MightyQ as their top town and if they did realize then FALCON is even more wolfy because Miss Caro doing the same to him.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:48 am Having a lynch unsolvable town/low poster strategy, yet having MightyQ has your #1 town...



Makes no sense at all

He explained why he does.
Read instead of shading.
Miss Caro actually made a read and town read you, you were just responding with “oh yeah he he I’ll town you too ever though you could be wolf.”

Like you just stated “pocket accepted” instead of stating actual care for a read.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:57 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:29 am So MissC, I'm sure there's a wolf in you/Paopan.
If you're the villager, you're going to have to help me see the light so we can end this game preferably today.

I feel MissC is town here.

Sure you do.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:01 am

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:58 am Like if it is MightyQ, I’m hoping Paopan can figure it out and turn things around.

Why don't you take a look at Mac's read on Pao?

Is this some attempt to frame Paopan?
Mac never accused Paopan till the very end and you think you can take advantage of that don’t yeah?

If you read during day 2 before the Wilgy flip, Mac said Paopan was a confident town aka finally agreed with me.

Miss Carousel wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:05 pm

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:13 am I don't listen and require feedbacks from my 99% wolf.
Just turbo MC for today so we can move forward.

why do you actively avoid solving? does shutting down content help town today and on future days if i flip town?

Avoid solving?
Other then me it was both you and him that gave me reads.


For all I know Falcon has You as his Top Town just like Paopan has MightyQ as his.

Told ya you weren't capable of not tunneling

It's incredible...Gav has had reads turn out to be completely wrong this game, and yet is still unwilling to reexamine anything.


He won't reevaluate Pao, won't reevaluate me.



Do you know why wolves don't kill you very often Gav? It's because you are destructive to town more often than not.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:57 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:29 am So MissC, I'm sure there's a wolf in you/Paopan.
If you're the villager, you're going to have to help me see the light so we can end this game preferably today.

I feel MissC is town here.

Mmmm. I'm going to change my priority from MC>falcon to falcon>MC because of this remark.
I'm smelling wolf vibes from both MC and falcon. It matters cos I want to end the game already.
while the net has been cast and both can't escape from our inevitable win. Just need some fasten results.
So yeah, i'm high confident that I have already solved this game. Scum is either falcon/MC.
GG

Gav, if I'm Maf, and you're so good at solving, why would I leave you alive?




I know it won't matter tho, you seem quite stuck in your own lil world

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:49 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:57 am

CRichard wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 5:29 am So MissC, I'm sure there's a wolf in you/Paopan.
If you're the villager, you're going to have to help me see the light so we can end this game preferably today.

I feel MissC is town here.

Mmmm. I'm going to change my priority from MC>falcon to falcon>MC because of this remark.
I'm smelling wolf vibes from both MC and falcon. It matters cos I want to end the game already.
while the net has been cast and both can't escape from our inevitable win. Just need some fasten results.
So yeah, i'm high confident that I have already solved this game. Scum is either falcon/MC.
GG

We can't both be wolves.



Totally unsurprising, you feel that the two players sus of your slot are both wolves. Keeping your POE limited to only the players who sus you...super towny

Watch, now Pao will play off Gav's unwavering town read of him to start a wagon on me.

Want the game to end already?


We are D3. This has not been a long game.

@CRichard Got some hawt takes?

As for MightyQ. I'll bet you he's town. But whatever his alignment is...
What an utterly ridiculous waste of space for town .
The guy hasn't even like voted someone in the entirety of this game.

Paopan wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:07 pm As for MightyQ. I'll bet you he's town. But whatever his alignment is...
What an utterly ridiculous waste of space for town .
The guy hasn't even like voted someone in the entirety of this game.

why the fuck is "an utterly ridiculous waste of space" your top town read

@Porscha Where's your head at right now?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:43 pm Told ya you weren't capable of not tunneling

And your not capable of working with me so looks like it’s a lose lose situation eh?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:47 pm It's incredible...Gav has had reads turn out to be completely wrong this game, and yet is still unwilling to reexamine anything.


He won't reevaluate Pao, won't reevaluate me.



Do you know why wolves don't kill you very often Gav? It's because you are destructive to town more often than not.

I have been evaluating lol.
Paopan is obvious town.
Your a likely wolf.

Paopan is gonna flip town man.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:49 pm Gav, if I'm Maf, and you're so good at solving, why would I leave you alive?




I know it won't matter tho, you seem quite stuck in your own lil world

Because I’m Gavial.

Trust me I’ve been in a recent game on Mafia Colosseum.
I had both Wind and Phraze as scum, Phraze dies night 1 flips Wolf.
During the next day it took awhile for others to do it but they eventually voted Wind with me and we won.

I was pushing Wind, others even gave the excuse for wind that if they scum why not kill me?


Well here’s the thing. My names Seth.
Because of who I am, I’m the type of individual that even if I’m carrying town and destroying mafia I’m still some how an ML for scum and still somehow a liability to town in scums eyes.

Name a time where someone kills me?
You can’t. No one really cares that much to kill me that’s just who I am.

Dies day 1 flips wold*

Wolf*

@MightyQ
Go to the Poll and vote someone you think is wolf please!

I hope I either die or Paopan stays alive before F3.
He’s an easy TR for me I can safely just vote the other guy.

@Porscha
If you vote Falcon, I’ll sheep you!

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:13 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:43 pm Told ya you weren't capable of not tunneling

And your not capable of working with me so looks like it’s a lose lose situation eh?

Yes I am.



Are you willing to reconsider your read on Pao?


Are you willing to reconsider your read on me?



If the answer to either of those questions is no, then it is you, not I, that is unable to work with others.

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:20 pm @MightyQ
Go to the Poll and vote someone you think is wolf please!

Why are you voting MightyQ right now?

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:23 pm I hope I either die or Paopan stays alive before F3.
He’s an easy TR for me I can safely just vote the other guy.

You lynched a 0 poster. You felt Wilgy was a mislynch. You tunneled Mac.



It is a demonstrable fact that your reads this game are not that great. Your "easy TR" of Pao should not be held as gospel by anybody.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:25 pm

Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 3:13 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:43 pm Told ya you weren't capable of not tunneling

And your not capable of working with me so looks like it’s a lose lose situation eh?

Yes I am.



Are you willing to reconsider your read on Pao?


Are you willing to reconsider your read on me?



If the answer to either of those questions is no, then it is you, not I, that is unable to work with others.

Lol nope nice try.

I’m willing to reconsider my read on you but Paopan is for sure town.

Can’t You see that wolf you makes so much sense here.
I deeply think your wolf because of your actions and more so today on day 3.

Your literally trying to manipulate me to voting Paopan which won’t happen because Paopan is Town.