The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:26 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 2:01 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:59 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:57 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:53 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:51 pm Player's who are afraid to make their own read on my slot and instead try to crowd source it are sus.



Lookin at LC and Mizery

I already outed a townread on you earlier if you'd read the game.

I'm asking Mac anyways since he's supposed to have a good read on you.

I did read that.



Are you TR Mac? If not, why else would his read in me matter?

Yes I do townread Mac.

Why?



He's asked other for logic explanations, and yet doesn't give his own. Is that towny in your mind?

This is such a horrendous thing to gravitate towards.

How many players provide clear and succinct reasoning for every read they make in a mafia game? I would say zero. How many players ask others to explain their reads at some point in a mafia game? I would say 99.9% of them.

It's the most NAI thing in recorded history to get fixated on. You are mafia. Die.

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:50 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:20 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:44 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:58 amdubious > doubloon > pirate > treasure > parrots > pet shop > money > coin

CAUGHT! You have the lucky coin. Nice try. But you tried to be clever, fucked around and now you've found out kid.

After reading the setup, the mindset behind this post is strange to me.
Finding the lucky coin isn't something town should be concerned about, or even could be concerned about.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Rondo’s probably just town but that’s a very preflip associative read

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:54 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:50 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:20 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:44 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:58 amdubious > doubloon > pirate > treasure > parrots > pet shop > money > coin

CAUGHT! You have the lucky coin. Nice try. But you tried to be clever, fucked around and now you've found out kid.

After reading the setup, the mindset behind this post is strange to me.
Finding the lucky coin isn't something town should be concerned about, or even could be concerned about.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Rondo’s probably just town but that’s a very preflip associative read

pls explain?

Mizery wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:39 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:51 pm

Arcbell wrote: ↑Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:48 pm I get this strange sense that you're happy to be scumread Porscha, you go in my town pile for now

I dont think a single person has scum read me and I mostly just assume I will be POE day 1 / day 2 no matter what b/c i'm lackadaisical early in game so I don't fight it much if it comes up

is this a weird attempt to pocket me or something ...........................................

Do people remember I'm in this game

Also I don't see anything from Porscha implying that they are feeling strange about not being scumread rn

But townpoints for using the word lackadaisical

Lag wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:08 am

Arcbell wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:06 am Btw here's a hypothetical.

Maf who is not 3p claims 3p.

Real town 3p does not counterclaim until they have the coin.

Town 3p prevents an early win and maf prevents an early loss because town avoids limming them.

Lol, this is great

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:57 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:54 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:50 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:20 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 4:44 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:58 amdubious > doubloon > pirate > treasure > parrots > pet shop > money > coin

CAUGHT! You have the lucky coin. Nice try. But you tried to be clever, fucked around and now you've found out kid.

After reading the setup, the mindset behind this post is strange to me.
Finding the lucky coin isn't something town should be concerned about, or even could be concerned about.

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

Rondo’s probably just town but that’s a very preflip associative read

pls explain?

If Dizzy is the wolf 3P, the Sun of the way Falcon and Dizzy treated you points to you being town.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 6:53 pm [VOTE: Mac] aubergine



On the first page there are 3 different players who use their 1st post to declare themselves as Town...





Mac chooses one of the 3, gives them a TR w/ no explanation, then chides another player for not giving explanations themselves.








Yeah, that makes sense

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:08 pm I think I like speccing better.

But sure

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:58 am i'm confused why would a maf claim 3p at all

srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:02 am I here. Skimming. Going to bed. Try to post something before eod.
Jack is looking good to me.
Saying Mac should have died sounds like coaching.
Not sure why suspicion left Arcbell and Ronald.
Lag looked interested for a bit.

Ltr

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:37 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:50 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:49 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:39 pm I'll answer you through this way with my reads Porscha

Town:
LimeCoke
Arcbell
Falcon
Mac
Seanzie
HK

Scum:
Srceenplay

I added Seanzie on there recently I think his aggressive questioning on Falcon makes him town.

This leaves...

Dragon D. Luffy
Dyslexicon
Jackofhearts2005
Lag
Mizery
NotAnAxehole
Porscha
RondoDimBuckle

Unsorted for me.

I don't think I vote Dizzy here since 1. They seem to be active and they've had some good reads in the past town games I've seen from them so misexe'ing them early would be horrible and 2. I saw Arcbell townread them and I'm respecting it.

The rest I'm still trying to figure out.

like you're still *strong* reading screen as scum here? you dont want to try pushing anyone in the null section which is half the lobby? like you'd rather just park on screen instead of exploring *anything else* ?

Well I was about to talk about JackofHearts because we just saw him appear in the game, talk about the OP for about 5 posts, then disappeared.

So we can push that.

[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine

I didnt like that at all as well @Jackofhearts2005 but then again we let NAA get away with it. why not Jack?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:03 am

srceenplay wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:02 am I here. Skimming. Going to bed. Try to post something before eod.
Jack is looking good to me.
Saying Mac should have died sounds like coaching.
Not sure why suspicion left Arcbell and Ronald.
Lag looked interested for a bit.

Ltr

who is Ronald?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:04 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:37 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:50 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:49 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:39 pm I'll answer you through this way with my reads Porscha

Town:
LimeCoke
Arcbell
Falcon
Mac
Seanzie
HK

Scum:
Srceenplay

I added Seanzie on there recently I think his aggressive questioning on Falcon makes him town.

This leaves...

Dragon D. Luffy
Dyslexicon
Jackofhearts2005
Lag
Mizery
NotAnAxehole
Porscha
RondoDimBuckle

Unsorted for me.

I don't think I vote Dizzy here since 1. They seem to be active and they've had some good reads in the past town games I've seen from them so misexe'ing them early would be horrible and 2. I saw Arcbell townread them and I'm respecting it.

The rest I'm still trying to figure out.

like you're still *strong* reading screen as scum here? you dont want to try pushing anyone in the null section which is half the lobby? like you'd rather just park on screen instead of exploring *anything else* ?

Well I was about to talk about JackofHearts because we just saw him appear in the game, talk about the OP for about 5 posts, then disappeared.

So we can push that.

[VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine

I didnt like that at all as well @Jackofhearts2005 but then again we let NAA get away with it. why not Jack?

This is probably AI from the perspective of knowing I’m town and Falcon was a wolf

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:01 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:58 am i'm confused why would a maf claim 3p at all

"Hi, I'm Chuckles, the extremely friendly 3P whose point of existing is to make sure town wins, I'm not a serial killer and I'm not maf siding in any particular way!

Please don't kill me. "

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:10 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:01 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:58 am i'm confused why would a maf claim 3p at all

"Hi, I'm Chuckles, the extremely friendly 3P whose point of existing is to make sure town wins, I'm not a serial killer and I'm not maf siding in any particular way!

Please don't kill me. "

like maf would claim town 3p?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:15 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:14 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:12 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying

I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now

Butt fuck those dragons!

ftfy

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:13 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:10 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:01 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:58 am i'm confused why would a maf claim 3p at all

"Hi, I'm Chuckles, the extremely friendly 3P whose point of existing is to make sure town wins, I'm not a serial killer and I'm not maf siding in any particular way!

Please don't kill me. "

like maf would claim town 3p?

Yes it's happened a few times before because there's differing philosophies with how people handle 3P. Some will say "Leave it alone and let them possibly self resolve and achieve wincon if it doesn't hurt town, finding wolves is more important anyways" or others will say "KILL ALL 3P CLAIMS NOW!"
Banking on people that defend 3P claims to defend them.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:41 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying

maybe you're having a good reads day?
or maybe you're just reading the obvs people.
why falcon?

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:42 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:20 pm Also no vote from @hollowkatt yet. Not that much talk from Lag

HK is sick as a dog and decided to crawl out of bed, hit the fridge, and check to see if there's anything fun going on.
Seems like the fun and popular thing is to vote falcon.
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:18 am I’m kinda feeling Town Miz but I have no good reasons for that

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:52 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:51 pm here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Why me?

I wondered when you were going to ask that question.

I like these posts. comments within the spoiler

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Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:40 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:38 am [VOTE: seanzie ] aubergine

If it helps, I was going to respond to your post with an Abbott and Costello joke, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wording to work out so I gave up.

I get you being mad about the cold-shoulder though, very natural response.

While fluffy this post makes me feel like you are legitimately engaging with Rondo, not preconceived notions being applied, not posting with an agenda. You seem like you want to legitimately want to solve Rondos alignment.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:09 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:06 am 10 minutes go by and Seanzie is just watching not responding to getting caught

You know I've decided to disengage with you because nothing was coming of our conversation, right?

along the same lines as the first post I town read this one because it's a soft disengage. You're not trying to ghost Rondo, you're not ignoring him, you're saying "Hey, we aren't seeing eye to eye and whether or not that's on me or on you this conversation isn't productive". It's been my experience that town wants to be productive, wolves don't care as much.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 am

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

Another post you could have not made and nobody would be the wiser.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:20 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:10 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 am

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Can't remember the last time I didn't bother you. Would be really cool if you're town. Also because you're good at it.

I'm actually exhorbantly bad at this game, and have one tool in my tool box (to bark like a mad dog at everything and let other people judge how they react) and am trying to move away from that style of play.

Either way, I sometimes feel fine about you, I just don't usually voice it unless you're getting run up, and you never get run up, so meh.

I like the honesty here. You do have a "meta" of "push someone really hard and shout at the thread hey this is sus" but that style can lead to feels bads, again I town read this because a wolf doesn't necessarily need to make this post, but a townie trying to be genuine feels it's useful.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:35 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:12 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying

I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now

Falcon is at E-3. While I agree we shouldn't immediately hammer him and instead use the time we have today, I'm not sure how you feel the fear of Falcon being hammered due to your vote is so great to voice such a read but then pivot like this.

I dig the nuance here. Not wanting an early hammer but also calling Rondo out on the pivot again says to me you want to understand and solve Rondo. This reads less like wolf?Seanzie thinking this is a push moment and more like town?Seanzie thinking this is an engagement/solution moment.

Now watch you push Rondo super hard and I have to eat crow or something.

If I preflip Falcon mafia, then Rondo would be the immediate name on my mind. Yours would probably come to mind pretty quick as well.

However, I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives, so I will leave this at that. But yeah, you aren't far off from eating crow.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:21 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:52 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:51 pm here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Why me?

I wondered when you were going to ask that question.

I like these posts. comments within the spoiler

Spoiler: show

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:40 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:38 am [VOTE: seanzie ] aubergine

If it helps, I was going to respond to your post with an Abbott and Costello joke, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wording to work out so I gave up.

I get you being mad about the cold-shoulder though, very natural response.

While fluffy this post makes me feel like you are legitimately engaging with Rondo, not preconceived notions being applied, not posting with an agenda. You seem like you want to legitimately want to solve Rondos alignment.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:09 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:06 am 10 minutes go by and Seanzie is just watching not responding to getting caught

You know I've decided to disengage with you because nothing was coming of our conversation, right?

along the same lines as the first post I town read this one because it's a soft disengage. You're not trying to ghost Rondo, you're not ignoring him, you're saying "Hey, we aren't seeing eye to eye and whether or not that's on me or on you this conversation isn't productive". It's been my experience that town wants to be productive, wolves don't care as much.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 am

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

Another post you could have not made and nobody would be the wiser.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:20 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:10 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 am

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Can't remember the last time I didn't bother you. Would be really cool if you're town. Also because you're good at it.

I'm actually exhorbantly bad at this game, and have one tool in my tool box (to bark like a mad dog at everything and let other people judge how they react) and am trying to move away from that style of play.

Either way, I sometimes feel fine about you, I just don't usually voice it unless you're getting run up, and you never get run up, so meh.

I like the honesty here. You do have a "meta" of "push someone really hard and shout at the thread hey this is sus" but that style can lead to feels bads, again I town read this because a wolf doesn't necessarily need to make this post, but a townie trying to be genuine feels it's useful.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:35 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:12 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying

I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now

Falcon is at E-3. While I agree we shouldn't immediately hammer him and instead use the time we have today, I'm not sure how you feel the fear of Falcon being hammered due to your vote is so great to voice such a read but then pivot like this.

I dig the nuance here. Not wanting an early hammer but also calling Rondo out on the pivot again says to me you want to understand and solve Rondo. This reads less like wolf?Seanzie thinking this is a push moment and more like town?Seanzie thinking this is an engagement/solution moment.

Now watch you push Rondo super hard and I have to eat crow or something.

If I preflip Falcon mafia, then Rondo would be the immediate name on my mind. Yours would probably come to mind pretty quick as well.

However, I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives, so I will leave this at that. But yeah, you aren't far off from eating crow.

Mac, DDL, Seanzie are the most obvious townie atp, particularly via interactions with Falcon.

It’s a minor point but Seanzie suspects Rondo and HK here.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:15 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:14 pm falcon/rando/porscha/seanzie/jack

who is Rando?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:23 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:15 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:14 pm falcon/rando/porscha/seanzie/jack

who is Rando?

Also worth noting that Rondo is having a downside time while Falcon is not. That’s not a super reliable thing that only townies do but I do think it’s a good look.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:23 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:15 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:14 pm falcon/rando/porscha/seanzie/jack

who is Rando?

Also worth noting that Rondo is having a downside time while Falcon is not. That’s not a super reliable thing that only townies do but I do think it’s a good look.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:24 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:23 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:15 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:14 pm falcon/rando/porscha/seanzie/jack

who is Rando?

Also worth noting that Rondo is having a downside time while Falcon is not. That’s not a super reliable thing that only townies do but I do think it’s a good look.

My phone somehow autocorrected “splendid” to “downside”

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:22 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:21 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:52 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:51 pm here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Why me?

I wondered when you were going to ask that question.

I like these posts. comments within the spoiler

Spoiler: show

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:40 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:38 am [VOTE: seanzie ] aubergine

If it helps, I was going to respond to your post with an Abbott and Costello joke, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wording to work out so I gave up.

I get you being mad about the cold-shoulder though, very natural response.

While fluffy this post makes me feel like you are legitimately engaging with Rondo, not preconceived notions being applied, not posting with an agenda. You seem like you want to legitimately want to solve Rondos alignment.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:09 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:06 am 10 minutes go by and Seanzie is just watching not responding to getting caught

You know I've decided to disengage with you because nothing was coming of our conversation, right?

along the same lines as the first post I town read this one because it's a soft disengage. You're not trying to ghost Rondo, you're not ignoring him, you're saying "Hey, we aren't seeing eye to eye and whether or not that's on me or on you this conversation isn't productive". It's been my experience that town wants to be productive, wolves don't care as much.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 am

Arcbell wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:56 am Dyslexicon is probably town for how much they're getting their hands dirty in the scumhunting process. Mafia have henchpeople for that.

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

Another post you could have not made and nobody would be the wiser.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:20 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:10 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Can't remember the last time I didn't bother you. Would be really cool if you're town. Also because you're good at it.

I'm actually exhorbantly bad at this game, and have one tool in my tool box (to bark like a mad dog at everything and let other people judge how they react) and am trying to move away from that style of play.

Either way, I sometimes feel fine about you, I just don't usually voice it unless you're getting run up, and you never get run up, so meh.

I like the honesty here. You do have a "meta" of "push someone really hard and shout at the thread hey this is sus" but that style can lead to feels bads, again I town read this because a wolf doesn't necessarily need to make this post, but a townie trying to be genuine feels it's useful.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:35 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:12 pm

Mizery wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:10 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

someone needs to help me because i can't explain why it feels like i have tmi and can't comprehend a single thing anyone is saying

I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now

Falcon is at E-3. While I agree we shouldn't immediately hammer him and instead use the time we have today, I'm not sure how you feel the fear of Falcon being hammered due to your vote is so great to voice such a read but then pivot like this.

I dig the nuance here. Not wanting an early hammer but also calling Rondo out on the pivot again says to me you want to understand and solve Rondo. This reads less like wolf?Seanzie thinking this is a push moment and more like town?Seanzie thinking this is an engagement/solution moment.

Now watch you push Rondo super hard and I have to eat crow or something.

If I preflip Falcon mafia, then Rondo would be the immediate name on my mind. Yours would probably come to mind pretty quick as well.

However, I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives, so I will leave this at that. But yeah, you aren't far off from eating crow.

Mac, DDL, Seanzie are the most obvious townie atp, particularly via interactions with Falcon.

It’s a minor point but Seanzie suspects Rondo and HK here.

I didnt want to think that DDL was town because they were pushing me but I wasnt going to OMGUS in return

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:59 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:56 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:51 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:43 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:32 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:22 pm Am I understanding correctly?
Falcon scum read is basically the same type of scum read as me but reworded?

pls explain

Not playing as town is "expected to play"

I am now less understand than I was before

I'm not seeing what makes them mafia.
I see them as stubborn and brash but I don't see why thats mafia.

So do you have any specific reads of him as town or just that people are misreading him mafia?

Gut says town. Think they are being easily driven up and I don't know why. That makes me apprehensive. I also feel like the IDGAF attitude and not trying to appease and just do their own thing feels town.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:25 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:22 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:21 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:02 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:52 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:51 pm here's where I'm currently at for townies:

dizzy
lc
mizery
seanzie

Why me?

I wondered when you were going to ask that question.

I like these posts. comments within the spoiler

Spoiler: show

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:40 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:38 am [VOTE: seanzie ] aubergine

If it helps, I was going to respond to your post with an Abbott and Costello joke, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wording to work out so I gave up.

I get you being mad about the cold-shoulder though, very natural response.

While fluffy this post makes me feel like you are legitimately engaging with Rondo, not preconceived notions being applied, not posting with an agenda. You seem like you want to legitimately want to solve Rondos alignment.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:09 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:06 am 10 minutes go by and Seanzie is just watching not responding to getting caught

You know I've decided to disengage with you because nothing was coming of our conversation, right?

along the same lines as the first post I town read this one because it's a soft disengage. You're not trying to ghost Rondo, you're not ignoring him, you're saying "Hey, we aren't seeing eye to eye and whether or not that's on me or on you this conversation isn't productive". It's been my experience that town wants to be productive, wolves don't care as much.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:09 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:58 am

@Seanzie ..must ...warn ...the others

I'm off btw. Please make everyone who isn't here magically appear.

Nah, you feel fine thus far.

You'll be the first to know if my mind changes about that.

Another post you could have not made and nobody would be the wiser.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:20 am

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:10 am

I wouldn't have it any other way.

Can't remember the last time I didn't bother you. Would be really cool if you're town. Also because you're good at it.

I'm actually exhorbantly bad at this game, and have one tool in my tool box (to bark like a mad dog at everything and let other people judge how they react) and am trying to move away from that style of play.

Either way, I sometimes feel fine about you, I just don't usually voice it unless you're getting run up, and you never get run up, so meh.

I like the honesty here. You do have a "meta" of "push someone really hard and shout at the thread hey this is sus" but that style can lead to feels bads, again I town read this because a wolf doesn't necessarily need to make this post, but a townie trying to be genuine feels it's useful.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:35 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:12 pm

I mean I am leaning towards falcon as well, there are too many people pushing him for all of them to be wolves. I feel like a lot of the arguments put forward are cogent. However I dont want to hammer so I am sheeping Dragon for now

Falcon is at E-3. While I agree we shouldn't immediately hammer him and instead use the time we have today, I'm not sure how you feel the fear of Falcon being hammered due to your vote is so great to voice such a read but then pivot like this.

I dig the nuance here. Not wanting an early hammer but also calling Rondo out on the pivot again says to me you want to understand and solve Rondo. This reads less like wolf?Seanzie thinking this is a push moment and more like town?Seanzie thinking this is an engagement/solution moment.

Now watch you push Rondo super hard and I have to eat crow or something.

If I preflip Falcon mafia, then Rondo would be the immediate name on my mind. Yours would probably come to mind pretty quick as well.

However, I don't really like doing pre-flip associatives, so I will leave this at that. But yeah, you aren't far off from eating crow.

Mac, DDL, Seanzie are the most obvious townie atp, particularly via interactions with Falcon.

It’s a minor point but Seanzie suspects Rondo and HK here.

I didnt want to think that DDL was town because they were pushing me but I wasnt going to OMGUS in return

The point I was trying to make there was “It was always gonna be a kill in Mac/DDL/Seanzie. So why Seanzie? Here are some scumreads from Seanzie. Maaaaaaybe those are correct.”

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:28 am

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:59 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:56 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:51 pm

srceenplay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:43 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:32 pm

pls explain

Not playing as town is "expected to play"

I am now less understand than I was before

I'm not seeing what makes them mafia.
I see them as stubborn and brash but I don't see why thats mafia.

So do you have any specific reads of him as town or just that people are misreading him mafia?

Gut says town. Think they are being easily driven up and I don't know why. That makes me apprehensive. I also feel like the IDGAF attitude and not trying to appease and just do their own thing feels town.

Screen possibly also scum 3P.

I don’t think he’s wolves with Falcon because of Falcon jumping on his wagon.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:05 am for $4 USD I will provide a mild amount of thread activity

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:17 am can we just go back to the begging of the day and sort there?

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:36 am It just feels weird like that whole part was forgotten. I don't understand Falcon. Still think my vote hits.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:37 am no I want you to be more active

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:57 am I don't want to vote Jack.
I want to vote Arcbell.

I would like it if someone explained to me why to vote for Jack.
I would like it if someone explained to me why not to vote for Arcbell.

srceenplay wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:27 am Jack was a brain fart. Was Talking about Falcon

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:50 am Alright, I have now caught up through EOD1, narrowed down potential scum significantly and probably earned not a 3 AM hammer (current vote count notwithstanding). I am tired. I will be back/awake around 6:00 AM central.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:39 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:37 am no I want you to be more active

I have exactly twice as many posts as you.