The Syndicate

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:27 pm I don't fucking know. Kill SVS. Hope for no crazy shit happening.

I still vote I'm flipped, cause it only takes a few being wrong, and if PC and/or Guillo is town, I don't fancy being around. I don't know how strategically sound that is and I wish it wasn't needed, but it feels needed. I don't know what more I can do

Do nothing but vote svs

At least, popping it in the belief it is probably not lylo is pointless. I recognise ‘we don’t know when lylo is’. IMO lylo is currently at 5 because I think there’s two wolves left balance-wise, but yeah it’s probably dangerous to rely on.

Honestly if there’s three wolves left we’ve lost I think.

ok I guess tutuu is controlling our vote today *shrugs*

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:29 pm ok I guess tutuu is controlling our vote today *shrugs*

Lol

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:29 pm At least, popping it in the belief it is probably not lylo is pointless. I recognise ‘we don’t know when lylo is’. IMO lylo is currently at 5 because I think there’s two wolves left balance-wise, but yeah it’s probably dangerous to rely on.

Honestly if there’s three wolves left we’ve lost I think.

I do not think 3 wolves are possible and tbh I dont really think there are 2, but I see 2 as plausible

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:27 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 6:41 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:40 pm Hey between Sig and Hollowkatt, im so spewed not Mod Squad at least

Modsquad dead stop derping.

Then SvS is just scum is he not

SVS is she

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:28 pmMayhaps
Svs did have a vest so maybe that applies to lost wolf?

I forgot about this. That may actually be the case tbh. Watch this whole kamikaze nonsense to be totally irrelevant and game is just over with SVS flipping

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:00 pm There you go.

So if that is not enough for people to see me as town, then I suggest the following: We chop SVS today. Should've been last day and I take full responsibility for being an idiot. There's a small chance she is mafia, and there's a definite chance she isn't telling the full truth about her claim and wincon. I will stay on Guillo today, and @Guillotine will shoot me. I'd prefer @Golden not to stay on actually. Rather someone else who is more in people's general PoE. However, it seems like I'm the one in everyone's PoE near the bottom, so just clear me tonight. In a shocking turn of events, I will flip green, something nobody could have ever foreseen. Very exciting stuff. I will cheer you one from beyond. And my money is on PC, but if you figure out something else, go for it.

I feel like we should just kill you today now

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:30 pmI feel like we should just kill you today now

That's a definite no.

How about we just don’t kill dizzy at all?

We should kill one in Dizzy/Golden because they ate straight up a difference check in my opinion

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:32 pm We should kill one in Dizzy/Golden because they ate straight up a difference check in my opinion

Why.

And this is why we don't win if we use a round to mischop me if there's two mafia left

@EnderWiggin Please vote SVS

Guillo is so effing wolfy I cannot understand why everyone just doesn’t agree.

This is just blatant flip town into town behaviour.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:30 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:28 pmMayhaps
Svs did have a vest so maybe that applies to lost wolf?

I forgot about this. That may actually be the case tbh. Watch this whole kamikaze nonsense to be totally irrelevant and game is just over with SVS flipping

Yep I am trying to remain collected and stay the course but it's hard with some missing info lol

[VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:34 pm Guillo is so effing wolfy I cannot understand why everyone just doesn’t agree.

This is just blatant flip town into town behaviour.

I am very sorry to say, that this is not wolf indicative for Guillo. I'm trying to play around it.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:35 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all

Golden vote on scotty is why you see golden and dizzy as difference check?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:36 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:34 pm Guillo is so effing wolfy I cannot understand why everyone just doesn’t agree.

This is just blatant flip town into town behaviour.

I am very sorry to say, that this is not wolf indicative for Guillo. I'm trying to play around it.

Everyone keeps saying this.

But is it town indicative? What is outside guillos wolfrange?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:35 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all

I do not quite know what you're talking about, but do you not want a chance to shoot me in the night instead and prove your claim as well?

The answer on guillo is consistently ‘he’s allowed to be as wolfy as he wants and it’s not going to get him elimmed’ which just worries me.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:36 pmEveryone keeps saying this.

But is it town indicative? What is outside guillos wolfrange?

I think I've felt something town indicative, which is real suspicion. It's been a long time since I've played with Guillo. I think as wolf they tend to tunnel other wolves. The amount of derping here also doesn't feel wolf indicative to me

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:36 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:35 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all

Golden vote on scotty is why you see golden and dizzy as difference check?

No.

I wolf read them individually but they have openly shielded each other that i dont think scum do that to associate each other.
So one of them gotta be scum only

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:39 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:36 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:35 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all

Golden vote on scotty is why you see golden and dizzy as difference check?

No.

I wolf read them individually but they have openly shielded each other that i dont think scum do that to associate each other.
So one of them gotta be scum only

Or, you know, you’re just wolf reading two townies.

This is fucking sad lol

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:39 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:36 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:35 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all

Golden vote on scotty is why you see golden and dizzy as difference check?

No.

I wolf read them individually but they have openly shielded each other that i dont think scum do that to associate each other.
So one of them gotta be scum only

I see lol
I cant say I'm seeing what you're seeing but thanks for the explanation

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:40 pm This is fucking sad lol

It's probably because we're all town lol

-t

Ender should vote SVS. We chop SVS and go from there.

Guillo, you have the open option to self vote and shoot me in the night, proving both yourself and me. Enjoy.

I need some food.

‘Both of my wolf reads can’t be wolves so one of them must be’ isn’t the basis of a difference check. It’s just the basis to flip town into town.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:40 pm This is fucking sad lol

It's probably because we're all town lol

-t

Wouldn't be the first time.

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:37 pm The answer on guillo is consistently ‘he’s allowed to be as wolfy as he wants and it’s not going to get him elimmed’ which just worries me.

Yeh idk is why I has tinfoil on him
But he did make a good point I dont think he buried any wolves and I do think wolf guillo does bury his frens

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:41 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:41 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:40 pm This is fucking sad lol

It's probably because we're all town lol

-t

Wouldn't be the first time.

Something I always consider lol

Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off

My unresolved concern about Guillo has to do with his attitude since returning from the mid-game hiatus. Since coming back, he seems to be perpetuating the idea that everything he has done in this game is sub-optimal if he's mafia. Which is fair, unless he is the type of player to lean into doing sub-optimal things for the sake of WIFOM.

In my estimation, Guillo is exactly the type of player to lean into doing sub-optimal things for the sake of WIFOM.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:37 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:35 pm [VOTE: Dyslexicon] aubergine

Im voting here because why the hell not?

Is it not the reason Golden switched to Scotty?

Not scummy at all

I do not quite know what you're talking about, but do you not want a chance to shoot me in the night instead and prove your claim as well?

What if you have an action up your sleeve that would not only prevent me from proving my action but also speed up your win condition.

Why would you as town, knowing that we might be at lylo, offer so easily to get killed by me?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:44 pmWhat if you have an action up your sleeve that would not only prevent me from proving my action but also speed up your win condition.

Why would you as town, knowing that we might be at lylo, offer so easily to get killed by me?

Why was this not your worry on other days? I have no fucking actions.

I have explained this, and I have also town cased myself, if you would bother to read the game. I'm not the problem here.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm My unresolved concern about Guillo has to do with his attitude since returning from the mid-game hiatus. Since coming back, he seems to be perpetuating the idea that everything he has done in this game is sub-optimal if he's mafia. Which is fair, unless he is the type of player to lean into doing sub-optimal things for the sake of WIFOM.

In my estimation, Guillo is exactly the type of player to lean into doing sub-optimal things for the sake of WIFOM.

Eh... maybe but less likely imo

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:46 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:44 pmWhat if you have an action up your sleeve that would not only prevent me from proving my action but also speed up your win condition.

Why would you as town, knowing that we might be at lylo, offer so easily to get killed by me?

Why was this not your worry on other days? I have no fucking actions.

I have explained this, and I have also town cased myself, if you would bother to read the game. I'm not the problem here.

Because obviously on other days we held the majority and were wiping the floor with your buddies left and right. We do not have that luxury now, one wrong decision could end it for us.

If i was scum here i'd be such the fake team player. Questioning motives?
That does not exist in my dictionary as scum. I do not interrupt townies making mistakes, the more work town does for me as scum, the better

Guillo lemme ask you something
Even though I think I already know the answer
Since you've obviously not read that much of the game, how or why do you insist on having such strong reads

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off

What makes you think there could be a lost wolf?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off

What makes you think there could be a lost wolf?

Read. The. Fucking. Game.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off

What makes you think there could be a lost wolf?

Lmfaoooooo
Guillo it was discussed quite a lot in the game and what makes you think there couldnt be a lost wolf?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:26 pmIf the group mafia team is eliminated, any lost mafia that may exist will inherit the factional kill and the tie break. If there are no lost mafia, it may be inherited by a third party, if they exist. There will be an announcement when any faction is completely eliminated from the game.

@Guillotine

I'm losing my patience and I will leave and come back

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:43 pm Maybe Guillo is lost wolf who genuinely think I'm wolf too lolol

This is getting dumb and I need to step off

What makes you think there could be a lost wolf?

Read. The. Fucking. Game.

There’s a decent chance you’re being tilted by a wolf as I was being back on day two by guillo

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:53 pm Guillo lemme ask you something
Even though I think I already know the answer
Since you've obviously not read that much of the game, how or why do you insist on having such strong reads

I dont need to read the entire game to catch scum, i just need to pay attention when im on.

I got a private server full of channels where i store meta from every player, i do this because i suffer from memory loss so i need to refer to this to remember players and their meta.
I write down notes there on how they behave under certain situations.

This is why i can easily call out Sig as scum from their first post.
Or hollowkatt or many many others whom i caught scum in their first post.

Dyslexicon is the kind of player that questions why someone townreads him, i have not seen even once him questioning golden and go deep into that here.
And AtEing as town, i have not seen him do that eithet. He is very collected.

There was another game where i also tunneled him and he was town, the difference is that in that game he laughed it off and ignored me.
Dyslexicon knows im in my town meta, or should know, here he has AtEd, mock me, gaslighted me (even though he apologized later), and throw shade at me from time to time.

This is not town Dyslexicon as far as my collected info is concerned and my few memories i still retain about him.

If flipping SVS doesn't end the game here I will let my hydra partners take the reigns if they want to, I will be giving my thoughts but I would have 0 confidence in anything

Apologies pre-emptively for whatever mistake(s) there were in my reads and my plays

Surviving to end game as town is the absolute worst experience in Mafia.

-t