Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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What do you think of loaded questions?sig wrote:I disagree. Though if you won't talk meta what do you think of her slightly manipulative posts and comments about how fast and crazy the game is.Epignosis wrote:"Meta" is foolishness.
I think I wouldn't need to have asked a loaded question if someone had given me a meta read/insight instead of saying meta was foolish.Epignosis wrote:What do you think of loaded questions?sig wrote:I disagree. Though if you won't talk meta what do you think of her slightly manipulative posts and comments about how fast and crazy the game is.Epignosis wrote:"Meta" is foolishness.
if you think im scum with llama why do you vote me instead?sig wrote:N
Polo wrote:ika wrote:read the end of your post i quoted, you said "IF I FLIP CIV"
You know ika, your attitude in this game is very different from EST mafia. You've been much more aggressive. What happened?
Day 3 he was killed that night, I don't think it is a coincidence he suspected Ika and was then killed. I'm starting to believe more and more that Ika is mafia, potentially with Llama as a teammate. I'd like to lynch Ika today.
VOTE IKA
I'll ISO him soon.
besides that not much from Polo some early suss on Dom, but he later reads him as civ. As well as daisy and a slight civ read on Ika and maybe on Epi. This actually adds more weight to my Ika theory. Kill the player who suspected then changed his stance on you. It gets rid of an issue and isn't as likely to lead back to the killer.
I'm more of a believer in "mata" myself.Epignosis wrote:"Meta" is foolishness.
loool that makes no sense. I'm now mafia since I voted you and Daisy/llama are my teammates. I doubt any of use are that sloppy to tie THE ENTIRE TEAM TOGETHER. Nah your mafia and flailing around.ika wrote:so sig/llama are sucm and daisy porb third
"Then?"sig wrote:Epi didn't answer my question after throwing some shade at me, then whipped up a case faster then a platter of waffles hmmmm.
Yes then.Epignosis wrote:"Then?"sig wrote:Epi didn't answer my question after throwing some shade at me, then whipped up a case faster then a platter of waffles hmmmm.
becasue your setting up associatives pre-flip and doing what llama did "oh if dfar is scum daisy is too" its not one waysig wrote:loool that makes no sense. I'm now mafia since I voted you and Daisy/llama are my teammates. I doubt any of use are that sloppy to tie THE ENTIRE TEAM TOGETHER. Nah your mafia and flailing around.ika wrote:so sig/llama are sucm and daisy porb third
I didn't vote for llama since my mafia read on him is dependent on how you flip, why are so eager for me to switch from one scum to the other why does it matter?
In the wise words on a not so wise women.
"At this point what difference does it make!?"
Not then. I was working on that business long before you asked about Illyria.sig wrote:Yes then.Epignosis wrote:"Then?"sig wrote:Epi didn't answer my question after throwing some shade at me, then whipped up a case faster then a platter of waffles hmmmm.
Erm, okay.sig wrote:You making that post then Ika's immediate follow up looks fixed. How was my question loaded and why have you yet to answer it?
GOT EMsig wrote:Nah that sounds like a bad idea, why do you want to lynch Sig? He hasn't done anything scummy yet.DrWilgy wrote:Do we wanna lynch Sig today?
Yes, I concur with this.DrWilgy wrote:I want reason for your Rab suspicion 1st if you can daisy.
I agree.thellama73 wrote:Yes, I concur with this.DrWilgy wrote:I want reason for your Rab suspicion 1st if you can daisy.
Scotty is one I could easily see being bad. He's kept kind of a low profile this game.
It's is only a slight suspicion, its mostly lingering because of her response to Silver's death. She has not postulated about anyone else's death being the result of Carson changing the targets. I think she might have been trying to give reasonable doubt to protect a teammate. But its one tiny ping so I don't feel confident in it. I know she answered me, but that small doubt about her is still hanging on.DrWilgy wrote:I want reason for your Rab suspicion 1st if you can daisy.
Seriously. Great timing on that one Polo, and RIP.Epignosis wrote:Damn, man.Polo wrote:Oh, the anxiety
Sorsha was scum when I was hosting A World Reborn, and although she made it one lynch shy of the end of the game, she was not in the top ten posters. We need some comparison to games when she's Civ to be able to get much information from it without analyzing the content/style of her posts. Maybe I'll search something like that up when I'm done this catchup post. Future edit: I see that she poked her head in to say the other game is taking up most of her Mafia time right now, which is believable.sig wrote:Can someone weight in on Sorsha's scum meta? I recall her being less active as mafia in EST and another game I played with her I think? However, I can't remember how active she usually is.
Just want to stop you right there. He was wrong about DF, so that leaves LC, ika, and sig. As in: "Are you and ika both mafia?sig wrote:So he was wrong about DF, that leaves LC and Ika.Polo wrote:Are you and ika both mafia?sig wrote:I'm requoting this, the more I think about the more likely it is to be true, plus I think all three would think that Ika could be framed for Silver's death. I'll do the leg work for it over the phase, I'm just throwing out some thoughts right now.sig wrote:I see three scenarios here.
1. Ika is mafia and killed Silver before she could get a strong read on him.
2. Someone killed Silver to frame Ika, this points to an experienced mafia member.
3. Silver mainly talked about DF, Epi, and LC around the time of her death and EOD. One of them is mafia and killed her.
I'm not sure if Silverwolf's suspicions really were spot-on before the first nightkill; I believe she did not have enough time to gather much information and the mafia might have killed her just because they know how good she can be at reading people as the game progresses.
But it's still a possibility that one of those is mafia. For reasons I've already stated, I believe Epignosis is civ, but I'm not sure about DFaraday and Long Con.
One thing to consider: maybe the mafia did not vote for BWT because no mafia was among the lynch candidates on D1 and they abstained from jumping on bandwagontarget11 because they wouldn't raise suspicion on themselves.
Out of the people Silverwolf was talking about, Long Con did not vote for BWT; he voted DFaraday on D1 and on D2, when there was a tie between Bubbles/Bea and DFaraday.
Just thinking out loud here.
" Putting yourself in the Polo-analysis doesn't incriminate you, but leaving yourself out is not cool, sig.That does read well from a solve-Polo's-death perspective, but would ika kill Silverwolf on night 1? I've been giving him the 'prob-Civ' benefit of the doubt for that, despite his grossly suspicious playstyle. :lol: I do not agree with Llama being linked up as ika's teammate, but that's neither here nor there at this time.sig wrote:Polo wrote:ika wrote:read the end of your post i quoted, you said "IF I FLIP CIV"
You know ika, your attitude in this game is very different from EST mafia. You've been much more aggressive. What happened?
Day 3 he was killed that night, I don't think it is a coincidence he suspected Ika and was then killed. I'm starting to believe more and more that Ika is mafia, potentially with Llama as a teammate. I'd like to lynch Ika today.
VOTE IKA
I'll ISO him soon.
besides that not much from Polo some early suss on Dom, but he later reads him as civ. As well as daisy and a slight civ read on Ika and maybe on Epi. This actually adds more weight to my Ika theory. Kill the player who suspected then changed his stance on you. It gets rid of an issue and isn't as likely to lead back to the killer.
She seems like regular Illy to me, and I missed her very much. It's been too long for me to give Civ/baddie meta reads on her... I have enough trouble remembering the usual Civ/baddie meta for anyone, really, most people seem the same to me in either alignment.sig wrote:@Everyone can you clue me in on Illyria's meta? Is she usually so jokey about serious stuff like lynch votes on her? I've seen a few things one in particular which I'll link and I'm unsure if she is being playful or manipulative. (Not in a bad way, but in like a you might be mafia and I wanna kill you way :P)
Illyria wrote:That hurts young man.Dom wrote:I'm putting a vote on Illy right now. I didn't love her responses to being suspected and I'm going to be out for the rest of teh day.
Neutral read on her right now, and I'm probably biased at the moment, not going after her much because I don't want her dead. As for Illy's description of herself being bad as a baddie... that probably has historical truth, nothing I personally remember, other than the hosting thing at which she is good.Epignosis wrote:What do you think of loaded questions?sig wrote:I disagree. Though if you won't talk meta what do you think of her slightly manipulative posts and comments about how fast and crazy the game is.Epignosis wrote:"Meta" is foolishness.
The idea that you "needed to ask a loaded question" in order to get the response you wanted is the thing that strikes me as "slightly manipulative" in this situation.sig wrote:I think I wouldn't need to have asked a loaded question if someone had given me a meta read/insight instead of saying meta was foolish.
ika wrote:if you think im scum with llama why do you vote me instead?sig wrote:I'm starting to believe more and more that Ika is mafia, potentially with Llama as a teammate. I'd like to lynch Ika today.
VOTE IKA
So you think sig is scum because he suspects you, and you think Llama is scum because sig said his name?ika wrote:so sig/llama are sucm and daisy porb third
Day 4 and only vibrations? Not a very good reason to vote.DrWilgy wrote:Im getting baddie vibrations from Sig.
I'll vote there.
I do. Lynch switch is a civ power. Unless she got lucky with the power steal, I am comfortable ruling her out.Nerolunar wrote:Yeah I dont think we should rule out Lorab either.
doubt its any power steal or anything of the sort, i bet the person used their powerthellama73 wrote:I do. Lynch switch is a civ power. Unless she got lucky with the power steal, I am comfortable ruling her out.Nerolunar wrote:Yeah I dont think we should rule out Lorab either.
I addressed this idea. I am not ruling out Lorab.thellama73 wrote:I do. Lynch switch is a civ power. Unless she got lucky with the power steal, I am comfortable ruling her out.Nerolunar wrote:Yeah I dont think we should rule out Lorab either.
Epignosis wrote:I just asked the hostess a question. I do not think Lorab is Tom, and I think Tom is a ninny.
For those wondering, I asked if conditional qualifiers can be put on a lynch switch ahead of time. The answer was no. Lorab would have had to PM a lynch switch in before Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:33 am EST (her last visit) to switch the lynch to DFaraday, and she would have had to do so when she had only one vote (mine).
Therefore, I do not think Lorab is Tom.
He doesn't seem calculated at all to me. Long Con is someone who I would call calculated and that isn't unique to this game.Nerolunar wrote:I could see Sig being bad tbh. Im not that used to his meta, but so far he seems more calculated than usual. Scotty too has this manipulative/calculated vibe. They are not acting the way they did in Turf Wars at least - what do you guys think of this?
I wouldn´t lynch Ika. He is a solid townread for me, as is Epignosis.
Lol, what?Matt wrote:Yeah sig is totes bad so I'll join him and vote ika.
Derp.
Yeah I'm playing more happy go lucky this game. Also Nero Turf War is a bad example, look what happened to me there. :PMetalmarsh89 wrote:He doesn't seem calculated at all to me. Long Con is someone who I would call calculated and that isn't unique to this game.Nerolunar wrote:I could see Sig being bad tbh. Im not that used to his meta, but so far he seems more calculated than usual. Scotty too has this manipulative/calculated vibe. They are not acting the way they did in Turf Wars at least - what do you guys think of this?
I wouldn´t lynch Ika. He is a solid townread for me, as is Epignosis.
How would you describe their behavior in Turf Wars? What were their alignments and that game?
That's... a pretty good point.Epignosis wrote:I addressed this idea. I am not ruling out Lorab.thellama73 wrote:I do. Lynch switch is a civ power. Unless she got lucky with the power steal, I am comfortable ruling her out.Nerolunar wrote:Yeah I dont think we should rule out Lorab either.
Epignosis wrote:I just asked the hostess a question. I do not think Lorab is Tom, and I think Tom is a ninny.
For those wondering, I asked if conditional qualifiers can be put on a lynch switch ahead of time. The answer was no. Lorab would have had to PM a lynch switch in before Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:33 am EST (her last visit) to switch the lynch to DFaraday, and she would have had to do so when she had only one vote (mine).
Therefore, I do not think Lorab is Tom.
unvote ikaMetalmarsh89 wrote:Lol, what?Matt wrote:Yeah sig is totes bad so I'll join him and vote ika.
Derp.
vote Matt
Scotty was way more laid back and Sig was being very messy, although he did receive heat by everyone. They were both civs.Metalmarsh89 wrote:He doesn't seem calculated at all to me. Long Con is someone who I would call calculated and that isn't unique to this game.Nerolunar wrote:I could see Sig being bad tbh. Im not that used to his meta, but so far he seems more calculated than usual. Scotty too has this manipulative/calculated vibe. They are not acting the way they did in Turf Wars at least - what do you guys think of this?
I wouldn´t lynch Ika. He is a solid townread for me, as is Epignosis.
How would you describe their behavior in Turf Wars? What were their alignments and that game?
I feel you.thellama73 wrote:I'm putting my vote on Scotty for now. The more I think about him, the more I suspect he's been flying under the radar this whole time.
Nerolunar wrote:Scotty was way more laid back and Sig was being very messy, although he did receive heat by everyone. They were both civs.Metalmarsh89 wrote:He doesn't seem calculated at all to me. Long Con is someone who I would call calculated and that isn't unique to this game.Nerolunar wrote:I could see Sig being bad tbh. Im not that used to his meta, but so far he seems more calculated than usual. Scotty too has this manipulative/calculated vibe. They are not acting the way they did in Turf Wars at least - what do you guys think of this?
I wouldn´t lynch Ika. He is a solid townread for me, as is Epignosis.
How would you describe their behavior in Turf Wars? What were their alignments and that game?
Interesting, you would call Long Con calculated this game. I would call him "Mr Put His Foot In Mouth" but that's just my opinion since he's said a few things that pissed me off this game.Metalmarsh89 wrote:He doesn't seem calculated at all to me. Long Con is someone who I would call calculated and that isn't unique to this game.Nerolunar wrote:I could see Sig being bad tbh. Im not that used to his meta, but so far he seems more calculated than usual. Scotty too has this manipulative/calculated vibe. They are not acting the way they did in Turf Wars at least - what do you guys think of this?
I wouldn´t lynch Ika. He is a solid townread for me, as is Epignosis.
How would you describe their behavior in Turf Wars? What were their alignments and that game?
pretty much.....Epignosis wrote:In a nutshell so far:
Somebody: "Let's lynch so-and-so."
About half of everybody else: "Okay."
Somebody else: "No, let's lynch this other person"
A number of the other half: "Okay."
Seems like a good reason to me. Sig why is the reason behind your vote more concerning than the fact that it happened?sig wrote:Day 4 and only vibrations? Not a very good reason to vote.DrWilgy wrote:Im getting baddie vibrations from Sig.
I'll vote there.
Do you have a list handy of who those voters are?Epignosis wrote:Additionally, Lorab's focus in her last post was on her own voters rather than the DFaraday voters. Given that DFaraday was good and was Tom's victim, I would expect an almost-lynched Tom to use DFaraday's lynch to look for suspects. Lorab didn't go that route.
Lorab, who among DFaraday's remaining voters is the most suspicious to you?
Day 1: Long Con, thellama73, and sig.LoRab wrote:Do you have a list handy of who those voters are?Epignosis wrote:Additionally, Lorab's focus in her last post was on her own voters rather than the DFaraday voters. Given that DFaraday was good and was Tom's victim, I would expect an almost-lynched Tom to use DFaraday's lynch to look for suspects. Lorab didn't go that route.
Lorab, who among DFaraday's remaining voters is the most suspicious to you?