The Syndicate

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Also, you remit confidence here with regard to He-Man being on Horde. Why, could you elaborate?

He was quick to ally himself with reywaS when accusing me of being Horde, he was quick to follow your compelled vote for DH and his positions have been all over the map. He hasn't played consistently and I don't trust him. Why Horde as opposed to Snake Mountain? Call it a hunch.

I still want to get rid of BWT today, though. In fact, I'll be the one to start the bidding.

Votes BWT

Makes sense. So you think reywaS might be on The Horde as well?

I agree with you on BWT, there's no way anything he says will change my mind. Same reasons as I said in all of my posts yesterday, only now I am just all that more confident in him being bad. I might as well go ahead and vote BWT too now, especially since I will be busy off and on (but still will be here) through Wednesday.

To be honest, I am not sure about reywaS. I had him pegged as a civvie early on (when he had that silly feud with BF) but his attack against me seemed to come out of nowhere and he kept insisting I must be Horde, which makes me think maybe he is.

thellama73 wrote:To be honest, I am not sure about reywaS. I had him pegged as a civvie early on (when he had that silly feud with BF) but his attack against me seemed to come out of nowhere and he kept insisting I must be Horde, which makes me think maybe he is.

I'm not sure either. I do hope he comes back and provides us with his thoughts soon.

If anyone is horde it's LT tbqh

MovingPictures07 wrote:Have we heard from reywaS yet? I know he was going to be out of town but I wanted to see his thoughts after he was (assumedly) silenced for the previous day, especially since he had a lot to say the period before that.

Linki with BF: I think it's near impossible to tell if Ishar is a baddie for that reason. I guess it would depend on if teammates have been able to send in his night action, if he is bad.

I believe he was turned into a goat, or something of the sort, it was mentioned in the Day 4 post.

I'm happy to see BWT on his way to being lynched.

I, however, will stick to my previous vote and stated case, and vote BF.

AllAlongTheBoardwalk wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Have we heard from reywaS yet? I know he was going to be out of town but I wanted to see his thoughts after he was (assumedly) silenced for the previous day, especially since he had a lot to say the period before that.

Linki with BF: I think it's near impossible to tell if Ishar is a baddie for that reason. I guess it would depend on if teammates have been able to send in his night action, if he is bad.

I believe he was turned into a goat, or something of the sort, it was mentioned in the Day 4 post.

I just had to pause for a minute to point out what a hilarious statement that is. I got real good laughs off that for a couple of minutes. I pictured saying it in a variety of accents with a variety of inflections. It's a classic.



Ok, so - weirdness. No lynch, since BF won a staff. (Yay! I think!) Good to know where Timmer is at, "he's our MP", as it were. Is He-Man also hexed? Hard to say, time will tell. It is technically possible, as Timmer would be on Day 2, allowing for someone else to be on Day 1. But I'm not sure if I think it's likely or not as of this moment.

I think I feel fine about trying to lynch BWT again. However, I'm not quite ready to vote just yet, as I'd like to let things simmer a bit more before deciding 100%.

Also, The Walking Dead is coming on in about 25 minutes, so that's how long I have to do whatever needs doing for the next hour. So I must away, prep myself for zombies, and then get super comfy. I will keep this mafia stuff simmering in the back of my mind.

yeah i was just wondering why everyone was so quiet, i couldn't believe no one had posted since timmer at like 5 hours ago until indi. And also why some people were voting so early, the lynch ends in like 2 days according to the poll.

I'm so sorry everybody, I have been so busy im not comfortable voting anyone until i catch up on the 10+ pages i have to read. hopefully I can do that soon. once again, apologies.

I'll be sticking with BWT as well. He looks the guiltiest to me and it's a slow day so I'm going to go ahead and vote now.

People vote so early here! I reviewed all the reasons in the thread people see BWT is bad and I come to the same conclusion. The most overwhelming thing to me was that back and forth with LT where he was trying to say she was defensive when she was really on the offense. LT has that reputation so it seemed like he was trying to leverage off reputation and not what the specific situation was in this game. Also, he changed his mind several times about her and though I change my mind all the time through games he seemed to change his mind more in the moment depending on what she said. If you ask me now I don't know whether he thinks she's bad or not. Finally, I would expect someone who was suspected by so many would be fighting tooth and nail with their dying breath if they were civv and I don't see that here.

So, even though I'm not used to voting so early, I'm going to go ahead and cast my vote for BWT.

timmer wrote:I'm happy to see BWT on his way to being lynched.

I, however, will stick to my previous vote and stated case, and vote BF.

tIMMER, THERE IS something in your posts that is making it impossible for me to trust you. You seem to have eluded lynching and now have slipped under the radar. I'm not sure why people have stopped looking at you tbh. And, I think bf is most likely civ.

*votes BWT*

Maybe we will get an early post, or maybe Epi can adjust the post times so he doesnt fall asleep

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm happy to see BWT on his way to being lynched.

I, however, will stick to my previous vote and stated case, and vote BF.

tIMMER, THERE IS something in your posts that is making it impossible for me to trust you. You seem to have eluded lynching and now have slipped under the radar. I'm not sure why people have stopped looking at you tbh. And, I think bf is most likely civ.

Kate, what I see that makes me question timmer being bad is the attempted lynch where it seems both mafias must have voted for him. What is your theory on that scenario? And I agree, I think bf is likely civv and am wondering if both he and timmer are hexed.

juliets wrote:

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm happy to see BWT on his way to being lynched.

I, however, will stick to my previous vote and stated case, and vote BF.

tIMMER, THERE IS something in your posts that is making it impossible for me to trust you. You seem to have eluded lynching and now have slipped under the radar. I'm not sure why people have stopped looking at you tbh. And, I think bf is most likely civ.

Kate, what I see that makes me question timmer being bad is the attempted lynch where it seems both mafias must have voted for him. What is your theory on that scenario? And I agree, I think bf is likely civv and am wondering if both he and timmer are hexed.

He, as in he-man?

Isn't it possible that whatever team timmer is on knew he wouldn't be lynched?

juliets wrote:

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm happy to see BWT on his way to being lynched.

I, however, will stick to my previous vote and stated case, and vote BF.

tIMMER, THERE IS something in your posts that is making it impossible for me to trust you. You seem to have eluded lynching and now have slipped under the radar. I'm not sure why people have stopped looking at you tbh. And, I think bf is most likely civ.

Kate, what I see that makes me question timmer being bad is the attempted lynch where it seems both mafias must have voted for him. What is your theory on that scenario? And I agree, I think bf is likely civv and am wondering if both he and timmer are hexed.

Or, in the alternative, if he is the player that gets stronger as the game goes on, what are we waiting for.

Does this seem like civvie Timmer to you?

I'm back from my trip and finally caught up on the thread! I stupidly forgot the power cord to my laptop when we left for Philadelphia last week and it was such a whirlwind weekend that I never had a chance to find a computer to get on and read the thread and vote.

Anyway, I think the case LT made against BWT sounds solid and I would have definitely placed my vote on BWT during the last lynch phase and am happy voting that way today since I think shenanigans were involved in his lynch survival.

WBIYAG thellama.
RIPIYWG Russ.
GYSIYAG BF (glad you survived if you are good--which I think you likely are).

So many lynch survivals! This makes it very hard to narrow down who might be connected to one another based on voting patterns. Hopefully BWT won't be so lucky this second time.

I will go back through the thread later today to try to piece together the Day 4 voting order.

Also, to address those saying they wanted to hear from me and still find me suspicious, can you please clarify what it is about my posts that is making you suspicious? I understand suspecting me due to my Day 1 vote. But what have I said or done beyond that to make you think I'm not on the side of good? I know Russtifinko said that he was pinged by my vote to give LT the shield which I thought was odd considering a lot of people voted for her and I trusted her at the time (and still do!). He also mentioned that I was a Wind Raider voter (thus a "non-stridor" voter), but as I pointed out, he himself also voted Wind Raider and blindfaeth on Day 1 so I wasn't sure why he was using that against me (unless Russ was a baddie and figured since he voted that way and was bad, then I must be bad too since I voted the same as him). I am not Snake Mountain or Horde and very much thought BF was mafia when I voted for him Day 1.

Both Russ and He-Man jumped on me for getting "over-defensive" about Russ' posts against me, but I didn't think it was overdefensive to simply defend myself against the slew of posts Russ made against me while I was silenced Day 3. Not to mention as I pointed out, I thought the points he was using to suspect me were peculiar. He-Man just keeps throwing my name out there without explaining why he suspects me (other than he keeps accusing me of "flying low" which I haven't been [with the exception of this past weekend where I had no internet access]).

Anyway, if I have done something other than those things to make people suspect me, please let me know so I can address it.

Moving on from that, I am wondering if Timmer is hexed and that's why he voted BF yesterday and then again today. I don't buy that he actually suspects BF.

I am going to vote BWT because I also hope we can get an early lynch post and move this along (5 dead players in 5 days is unreal!).

Kate wrote:

juliets wrote:

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm happy to see BWT on his way to being lynched.

I, however, will stick to my previous vote and stated case, and vote BF.

tIMMER, THERE IS something in your posts that is making it impossible for me to trust you. You seem to have eluded lynching and now have slipped under the radar. I'm not sure why people have stopped looking at you tbh. And, I think bf is most likely civ.

Kate, what I see that makes me question timmer being bad is the attempted lynch where it seems both mafias must have voted for him. What is your theory on that scenario? And I agree, I think bf is likely civv and am wondering if both he and timmer are hexed.

Or, in the alternative, if he is the player that gets stronger as the game goes on, what are we waiting for.

Does this seem like civvie Timmer to you?

I admit, it doesn't sound like civv Timmer to me which is why I was thinking he was bad until the issue of everyone voting for him and the possibility that he is indy came up. I guess it could be that people voting for him makes him stronger and his team voted for him knowing he would survive the lynch. Gah! I think I will do the same thing with him I did with BWT - go through the thread and collect the evidence for him being bad and for him being indy and see where that weighs out.

juliets wrote:

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm happy to see BWT on his way to being lynched.

I, however, will stick to my previous vote and stated case, and vote BF.

tIMMER, THERE IS something in your posts that is making it impossible for me to trust you. You seem to have eluded lynching and now have slipped under the radar. I'm not sure why people have stopped looking at you tbh. And, I think bf is most likely civ.

Kate, what I see that makes me question timmer being bad is the attempted lynch where it seems both mafias must have voted for him. What is your theory on that scenario? And I agree, I think bf is likely civv and am wondering if both he and timmer are hexed.

Did BWT's nearly anonymous non-lynch make you think something similar about him?

EBWOP:

And by "anonymous", I of course mean "unanimous". <--- I need that.

juliets wrote:

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm happy to see BWT on his way to being lynched.

I, however, will stick to my previous vote and stated case, and vote BF.

tIMMER, THERE IS something in your posts that is making it impossible for me to trust you. You seem to have eluded lynching and now have slipped under the radar. I'm not sure why people have stopped looking at you tbh. And, I think bf is most likely civ.

Kate, what I see that makes me question timmer being bad is the attempted lynch where it seems both mafias must have voted for him. What is your theory on that scenario? And I agree, I think bf is likely civv and am wondering if both he and timmer are hexed.

Did BWT's nearly unanimous non-lynch make you think something similar about him?


There, fixed it.

indiglo wrote:

juliets wrote:

Kate wrote:

timmer wrote:I'm happy to see BWT on his way to being lynched.

I, however, will stick to my previous vote and stated case, and vote BF.

tIMMER, THERE IS something in your posts that is making it impossible for me to trust you. You seem to have eluded lynching and now have slipped under the radar. I'm not sure why people have stopped looking at you tbh. And, I think bf is most likely civ.

Kate, what I see that makes me question timmer being bad is the attempted lynch where it seems both mafias must have voted for him. What is your theory on that scenario? And I agree, I think bf is likely civv and am wondering if both he and timmer are hexed.

Did BWT's nearly anonymous non-lynch make you think something similar about him?

No, and up to this point I haven't even thought about the comparison. I haven't gotten to the end of note taking on the cases for Timmer being either indy or baddie but certainly I will need to think through what you've brought up. Do you think BWT is indy or do you think just because nearly everyone voted timmer it's not good enough proof that he is indy?

Also while I'm paused, AATB you mentioned that since Modulok attempted the night kill you don't think Timmer is Modulok. I'm confused as to what the link is there. Is there something that would have prevented Timmer from attempting the night kill as Modulok?

I'm going to vote for BWT. Nothing new to add to reasons mentioned already.

Well since everyone is voting early today I guess I'll go ahead and vote. I think BWT will turn up bad, but in case he is Snake Mountain, why give Merman another 6% increase on finding a relic? So I think I'll vote for MP again. Mostly for trying to brush off my suspicion of him as me being hexed! Because he knows that if people think I am hexed, that they won't take me seriously.

Crossing my fingers for a good result.

I see LT NO U'd me by voting, a very baddie thing to do for sure

Ok I'm seriously drunk right now I saw my name next to LT'd and though she voted me when I voted her... Nvm I'm going to bed sotty

Voted BWT. Particularly busy weekend/monday so I'm going to have to regroup tomorrow.

Lol He-Man. You made me do a double-take, it was funny. I was just about as loopy as you, I guess.

I just wanted to let everyone know I'll have limited/no internet access starting Thursday afternoon until early morning on Monday. I'm going on a cruise to the Bahamas. Internet plans are expensive, there is supposedly a free internet cafe I will try to access but no promises. I guess we have a couple days before we have to worry about it.

blindfaeth wrote:Well since everyone is voting early today I guess I'll go ahead and vote. I think BWT will turn up bad, but in case he is Snake Mountain, why give Merman another 6% increase on finding a relic? So I think I'll vote for MP again. Mostly for trying to brush off my suspicion of him as me being hexed! Because he knows that if people think I am hexed, that they won't take me seriously.

Crossing my fingers for a good result.

That's an interesting 2 points you made there.

Also:

Have fun on your cruise BF! Don't worry about mafia while you're on vacation - just enjoy yourself!


And LOL He-Man. Well done, sir.

Sorry to triple post.

*votes BWT*


And I hope that's not a mistake in regards to what BF mentioned as a possibility.

I voted bwt

Seems like BWT is going down whatever happens. I really hope everyone is correct and we have the right guy. Votes BWT

Day 5: In the Valley

Bathed in sunlight, the valley north of the Mystic Mountains gave the party a sense of peace, but after having met with the Council of Avion, they were filled with a sense of determination: birdwithteeth11 had to die.

“No,” birdwithteeth11 said when the mob approached him. “You cannot!”

“We can,” they answered. “And we must.” The mob grabbed the generic form and pinned his arms behind him.

With a spear still sticky with the thick blood of the Ilkort, they drove it into him, up behind the rib cage, and the tip of the crude weapon lodged itself into the spinal column of the doomed.

The face of birdwithteeth11 fell into a bout of spasms, but only a blithering, choking sound emerged from the open mouth. The paroxysms lasted for several minutes.

When the body stilled, the onlookers waited, hardly daring to draw breath, for the change, but no change came. The anger of the crowd turned into dismay, and slowly they began to turn away, needing to be alone with their thoughts.

“Wait,” someone said.

The air around the fresh corpse shifted and the colors became blurry.



birdwithteeth11 has been lynched. He was Mantenna.

It is now Night 5. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs.

Night 5: Zodac's Mountain

After a day of traveling, the party found themselves before a mysterious structure, built into a solitary mountain.

“This is the mountain of Zodak,” someone announced. No one had ever been inside before, but the doorway now was open. The party ventured in.

Inside, they found a network of computers, one of which was on. It flashed and beeped, showing an indecipherable language. However, there were four keys labeled with symbols they recognized: Eternia, Etheria, Snake Mountain, and The Horde.

Brilliant. We got the right guy! Well done everyone...good job.

fantastic!!

I gotta say, I would bet a small fortune that LT is his teamie tbqh

well done! Bihar BWT

As far as the buttons are concerned - its an interesting dilemma, it could be that something bad happens to that group or something good happens, right? It's a hard choice bc we don't really know where his loyalties lie. Again, from the show he seemed more or less helpful to eternia but really he only showed up when snake men were involved.

Linki. Lol yes I think heman must be hexed. If I'm not mistaken LT started the BWT train

blindfaeth wrote: well done! Bihar BWT

As far as the buttons are concerned - its an interesting dilemma, it could be that something bad happens to that group or something good happens, right? It's a hard choice bc we don't really know where his loyalties lie. Again, from the show he seemed more or less helpful to eternia but really he only showed up when snake men were involved.

Linki. Lol yes I think heman must be hexed. If I'm not mistaken LT started the BWT train

distancing.....

Awesome result! Goodbye BWT I always like playing mafia with you. BIH Mantenna. I don't know what the rationale of the buttons is and have no idea what I will vote yet.

Yes! BIH BWT!

Good to play another game with you again.

So I'm thrown off by this poll as well because of the WIFOM element (push or don't push the button) because we don't know if it will be good or bad for any of the teams. Anyone have any ideas here, or happen to have any info regarding it?

blindfaeth wrote:yeah i was just wondering why everyone was so quiet, i couldn't believe no one had posted since timmer at like 5 hours ago until indi. And also why some people were voting so early, the lynch ends in like 2 days according to the poll.

I think it was quiet only because the case on BWT was near flawless and he didn't come back any further to defend himself.

I voted early because I knew I wouldn't change my mind about him and I wasn't sure I'd be back in time. Thankfully I did because I was busy all day yesterday.

Flyin' High wrote:I'm back from my trip and finally caught up on the thread! I stupidly forgot the power cord to my laptop when we left for Philadelphia last week and it was such a whirlwind weekend that I never had a chance to find a computer to get on and read the thread and vote.

Anyway, I think the case LT made against BWT sounds solid and I would have definitely placed my vote on BWT during the last lynch phase and am happy voting that way today since I think shenanigans were involved in his lynch survival.

WBIYAG thellama.
RIPIYWG Russ.
GYSIYAG BF (glad you survived if you are good--which I think you likely are).

So many lynch survivals! This makes it very hard to narrow down who might be connected to one another based on voting patterns. Hopefully BWT won't be so lucky this second time.

I will go back through the thread later today to try to piece together the Day 4 voting order.

Also, to address those saying they wanted to hear from me and still find me suspicious, can you please clarify what it is about my posts that is making you suspicious? I understand suspecting me due to my Day 1 vote. But what have I said or done beyond that to make you think I'm not on the side of good? I know Russtifinko said that he was pinged by my vote to give LT the shield which I thought was odd considering a lot of people voted for her and I trusted her at the time (and still do!). He also mentioned that I was a Wind Raider voter (thus a "non-stridor" voter), but as I pointed out, he himself also voted Wind Raider and blindfaeth on Day 1 so I wasn't sure why he was using that against me (unless Russ was a baddie and figured since he voted that way and was bad, then I must be bad too since I voted the same as him). I am not Snake Mountain or Horde and very much thought BF was mafia when I voted for him Day 1.

Both Russ and He-Man jumped on me for getting "over-defensive" about Russ' posts against me, but I didn't think it was overdefensive to simply defend myself against the slew of posts Russ made against me while I was silenced Day 3. Not to mention as I pointed out, I thought the points he was using to suspect me were peculiar. He-Man just keeps throwing my name out there without explaining why he suspects me (other than he keeps accusing me of "flying low" which I haven't been [with the exception of this past weekend where I had no internet access]).

Anyway, if I have done something other than those things to make people suspect me, please let me know so I can address it.

Moving on from that, I am wondering if Timmer is hexed and that's why he voted BF yesterday and then again today. I don't buy that he actually suspects BF.

I am going to vote BWT because I also hope we can get an early lynch post and move this along (5 dead players in 5 days is unreal!).

FH, at least for me personally, I mainly found your Day 1 vote and also another post or two of yours suspect (the one about your theory for reptar), but otherwise I've been reading your intentions as civvie.

Yay on getting another baddie!

As for this night poll, I'm not sure what to choose! I know someone posted something about Zodac's lore--I will go back and see what that said to help make a decision on this.

BIH Birdwithteeth!

This poll is a nightmare! No matter what we choose it will look suspicious!

Flyin' High wrote:As for this night poll, I'm not sure what to choose! I know someone posted something about Zodac's lore--I will go back and see what that said to help make a decision on this.

Oh FH, if you find it will you quote it? I don't remember it offhand but then I've been concentrating on other things.

~Whew~

Glad it worked out that way, what a relief!

It was fun playing with you BWT!!


As for the poll... oof. Gonna have to do some reading on this one. Such a WIFOM-y situation, if something good or something bad will happen to the selected group.

So while I was reading last night I was on the lookout for anyone trying to detract attention away from BWT. In case he came back bad. Because then I'd have some leads for suspects. Not really much was brought up this past day period, just Timmer and He-Man, and Ishuar or whoever that hasn't posted. But the first BWT lynch day, I found this interesting. I've been mostly reading Russ as civ, so I might be way off base here, but..

Russtifinko wrote:So it seems pretty clear to me why Alex has decided to vote DH. Skeletor's hex lasts 2 days, remember? The one thing that confuses me is why Skeletor would be compelling Alex to vote DH 2 days in a row, especially since he's already been lynched (sort of) once. This makes me think Skeletor sees DH as really really dangerous, but I'm not sure why. Maybe DH has a particularly powerful, non-Snake Mountain role?

timmer made what I think was a really interesting point about blindfaeth. I think it bears a reread of blindfaeth's posts on my part. I'm not sure what to make of BWT yet. One the one hand, his posts have seemed most similar in tone to Boomslang's of any I've read yet, and Boomslang is the only person we've lynched who we're 100% sure is a baddie. On the other hand, the number of people hopping in to voice their surety that he is evil is a little strange.

Also, I counted up and I think it was 10 characters who started this game without BTSC, and everyone has a chance of earning it at some point. There is a lot going on here that never makes it to Public Threadsville.

And finally, the dream I mentioned was a PM from Epi, not a RL dream. Is it safe to assume that Shadow Weaver's power is to send people false info in dreams and disregard it completely, or should I post it here and let you guys decide for yourselves?

Idk. I recommend you read it in context. It's on pg 28 and if I'm not mistaken, before many votes were cast. #1, why are we only sure about boomslang being bad? Roxy was, unless he's talking about my conspiracy theory, in which case, he's suspecting me but believing something I said?

I do think it's odd however that you were latching onto a case built by Timmer of all people. I'm still undecided about Timmer tbqh, he could be good for all I know, but I'm not sure he's the most trustworthy person, I've been taking his opinions with a grain of salt. Also I guess we'll see if he votes me again today for a third time, but it seems to be a possiblility that he was hexed and built that case so that he did not look obvious/suspicious.

Anyway, it just feels like the post was an attempt to say "Idk, BWT looks kinda suspicious, but look at all those people suspecting him, maybe he's not bad.. look at BF!"

What do you think, MP?

Regardless, I don't know why I missed the last part before, maybe I just glanced over it. But why are you sure that Shadow Weaver sent the dream and not someone else? Idk, I think info is usually better off in the hands of the civvies, but you have to use your best judgement. Letting the bad guys know what exactly my staff does and how it works would be a bad idea, for example.

Also, I still don't have a clue how I should vote in this poll.

Lots of link

Excellent result

Here is the wikia for Zodac http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/Zodac and for Zodak http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/Zodak

I am wondering if the result of the buttons will be info/secrets related to the one we choose to push?

LittleTiger wrote:Excellent result

Here is the wikia for Zodac http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/Zodac and for Zodak http://he-man.wikia.com/wiki/Zodak

I am wondering if the result of the buttons will be info/secrets related to the one we choose to push?

These wiki articles make me think maybe we should vote Snake Mountain, since Zodak doesn't like snakes. Also, Snake Mountain has the fewest members remaining, so since we don't know whether the effect is positive or negative, it will be minimized with fewer people.

I haven't made up my mind yet, but this is what I'm thinking initially.