The Syndicate

a2thezebra wrote:The feeling is mutual since your most recent post quoting Snow Dog is waffly as shit.

What's waffly about it?

Linki: did you even look at Quin's Mad Max game?

Scotty wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:The feeling is mutual since your most recent post quoting Snow Dog is waffly as shit.

What's waffly about it?

Linki: did you even look at Quin's Mad Max game?

What does Quin's Mad Max game have to do with conviction? Broad strokes man, broad strokes.

And it's waffly because you gave him implicit townie points because his "all my best friends died" post seemed genuine (which it isn't AT ALL) while then going on to play with the suggestion that he could be on the baddie team that didn't kill the friends he missed. That's exactly what I mean when I say too much conviction is better than not enough. When you give a nearly equal amount of town points and baddie points to the same player for the same post, you might as well not have said anything.

I have to go do a show but would like to evaluate LC next.

Nacho, nijuu, post more.
Wilgy, check your PM. Mac is right, at some point we should just lynch you in order to avoid it turning to WIFOM o'clock

a2thezebra wrote:

Scotty wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:The feeling is mutual since your most recent post quoting Snow Dog is waffly as shit.

What's waffly about it?

Linki: did you even look at Quin's Mad Max game?

What does Quin's Mad Max game have to do with conviction? Broad strokes man, broad strokes.

And it's waffly because you gave him implicit townie points because his "all my best friends died" post seemed genuine (which it isn't AT ALL) while then going on to play with the suggestion that he could be on the baddie team that didn't kill the friends he missed. That's exactly what I mean when I say too much conviction is better than not enough. When you give a nearly equal amount of town points and baddie points to the same player for the same post, you might as well not have said anything.

So you havent read through that game. Quin was all about conviction. He voted Dom almost all (if not all) game. He was convinced Dom was bad, and wouldn't take no for an answer and backed up hiscase.. it seemed like a way-too-tunnely civ who had too much conviction. And he wasn't civ. Not at all.

As for my Snowdog post: I'm sorry you don't agree with my sentiment that it looked genuine. But we're playing with 2 teams here, and I even went on to state that even if I think he didn't kill his friends, I put out that he could have been on the team that didn't kill his friends. I fail to see the waffle. It's more of a pancake.

Quiet day...

Scotty wrote:I have to go do a show but would like to evaluate LC next.

Nacho, nijuu, post more.
Wilgy, check your PM. Mac is right, at some point we should just lynch you in order to avoid it turning to WIFOM o'clock

What difference would that make?

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:In fact zebra's post and vote has got me scratching my head here. What kind of assumption is that for fuck's sake?

I mean according to your wisdom all of my posts are garbage so I'm not sure why you're so baffled by it, especially considering I've already voted for you for vague reasons twice now. Maybe...hold on a second...maybe...you're full of shit?

Is there really any need to be so rude? What is your problem?

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:All my best friends died. Why do I want to play this game anymore? Oh come back Ian, we miss you. WELL DON'T DIE THEN!!!!!

This post seems genuine. I'm not so sure you would have been fine killing your friends so early. Which ones were your friends exactly? Epi, MP, Golden?

This is why I asked a question early on as to who would not feel comfortable killing someone as part of a larger meta. And you certainly fit the bill.

You still could have killed DF and Quin

The two are MP and Epignosis (plus llama but he isn't playing). and I think you are right. i would be reluctant to lynch them or kill them. Atleast early on in the game.

Vompatti wrote:Quiet day...

Votes Vompatti :P

Snow Dog wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:In fact zebra's post and vote has got me scratching my head here. What kind of assumption is that for fuck's sake?

I mean according to your wisdom all of my posts are garbage so I'm not sure why you're so baffled by it, especially considering I've already voted for you for vague reasons twice now. Maybe...hold on a second...maybe...you're full of shit?

Is there really any need to be so rude? What is your problem?

You've got some nerve asking those two questions after your last exchange with Quin.

At least I was attacking your alignment rather than your playstyle. This is what I mean when I talk about this obscene double standard.

Too much conviction gets civs lynched.

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:In fact zebra's post and vote has got me scratching my head here. What kind of assumption is that for fuck's sake?

I mean according to your wisdom all of my posts are garbage so I'm not sure why you're so baffled by it, especially considering I've already voted for you for vague reasons twice now. Maybe...hold on a second...maybe...you're full of shit?

Is there really any need to be so rude? What is your problem?

You've got some nerve asking those two questions after your last exchange with Quin.

I don't have a clue what the fuck you are talking about you weirdo.

a2thezebra wrote:At least I was attacking your alignment rather than your playstyle. This is what I mean when I talk about this obscene double standard.

saying I'm full of shit is attacking my playstyle?

Scotty wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Scotty wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:The feeling is mutual since your most recent post quoting Snow Dog is waffly as shit.

What's waffly about it?

Linki: did you even look at Quin's Mad Max game?

What does Quin's Mad Max game have to do with conviction? Broad strokes man, broad strokes.

And it's waffly because you gave him implicit townie points because his "all my best friends died" post seemed genuine (which it isn't AT ALL) while then going on to play with the suggestion that he could be on the baddie team that didn't kill the friends he missed. That's exactly what I mean when I say too much conviction is better than not enough. When you give a nearly equal amount of town points and baddie points to the same player for the same post, you might as well not have said anything.

So you havent read through that game. Quin was all about conviction. He voted Dom almost all (if not all) game. He was convinced Dom was bad, and wouldn't take no for an answer and backed up hiscase.. it seemed like a way-too-tunnely civ who had too much conviction. And he wasn't civ. Not at all.

As for my Snowdog post: I'm sorry you don't agree with my sentiment that it looked genuine. But we're playing with 2 teams here, and I even went on to state that even if I think he didn't kill his friends, I put out that he could have been on the team that didn't kill his friends. I fail to see the waffle. It's more of a pancake.

You haven't read through the post you're quoting. I said broad strokes, there's an implicit "as a whole" at the end of my original question. Just because Quin used conviction doesn't mean that any instance of conviction we see here (from other players no less, but him as well) can justifiably be associated with it. That's way too vague. And you know we were teammates right? You don't need to inform me that he wasn't civ.

Now you're waffling about your own waffling. A pancake, really?

linki - Saying you're full of shit is attacking your alignment of course. Kind of the point of the game?

Snow Dog wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:In fact zebra's post and vote has got me scratching my head here. What kind of assumption is that for fuck's sake?

I mean according to your wisdom all of my posts are garbage so I'm not sure why you're so baffled by it, especially considering I've already voted for you for vague reasons twice now. Maybe...hold on a second...maybe...you're full of shit?

Is there really any need to be so rude? What is your problem?

You've got some nerve asking those two questions after your last exchange with Quin.

I don't have a clue what the fuck you are talking about you weirdo.

You attack my playstyle and no one, including myself, calls you rude. I attack your alignment and immediately you say that I'm being rude.

You said I was full of shit.

Snow Dog wrote:Too much conviction gets civs lynched.

I didn't say that too much conviction was a good thing, if that was my point then why would I even say "too much"? I said it's better than the other extreme which it most certainly is.

linki - Correct. As am I, proudly, every time I'm bad. Why is this so difficult to grasp?

I'm out.

Do I need to say that you're full of bullshit next time, would that make it more clear?

Snow Dog wrote:I'm out.

same tbh

I would like to point out that I am not also Snow Dog.

MacDougall wrote:I would like to point out that I am not also Snow Dog.

i feel like zebras are far less quarrelsome in the savannah. Zebras wrestling with dogs and...whatever the hell Mac's avatar is...unheard of!

Also, GTH who would you vote for right now?

mac, what is your avatar?

I want to vote MM. Anyone want to join me?

What's wrong with MM?

Nah, I'm cool with MM.

I want to make something clear to zebra before we continue.

I did not call all her posts "garbage". The conversation was about my day 1 vote and I called her posts up till then garbage as there were few of them and were made up just emoticons. Since then I wouldn't describe her posts that way.

Long Con wrote:Nah, I'm cool with MM.

Why MM?

For me it's a toss between randomizing and only pretending to randomize.

Vompatti wrote:For me it's a toss between randomizing and only pretending to randomize.

Did all the talkers get murked?

Looks like it. I would never do that, unless they were coming after me.

So like I said last cycle, I thought the vote spread was good. The wagons we had were as follows -

a2thezebra: MacDougall (6), Soneji (8), nijuukyugou (15)

Boomslang: DrWilgy (13), Scotty (16), Nachomamma8 (18), Metalmarsh89 (19)

Quin: sig (20), Snow Dog (21)

Soneji: Vompatti (10), motel room (11)

Who's here to break this down into a gth excersize?

Can't talk much on phone right now.

Lc is being strangely quiet this game and his post about him not killing active players is odd. I'm considering a zebra lynxh but need to iso her. Same with snow and mac. If all else fails I suggest we lynch another lurker. I'm about to be heading back to school but I should be free later today.

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:All my best friends died. Why do I want to play this game anymore? Oh come back Ian, we miss you. WELL DON'T DIE THEN!!!!!

This post seems genuine. I'm not so sure you would have been fine killing your friends so early. Which ones were your friends exactly? Epi, MP, Golden?

This is why I asked a question early on as to who would not feel comfortable killing someone as part of a larger meta. And you certainly fit the bill.

You still could have killed DF and Quin

I disagree this doesn't seem very genuine to me
In fact it seems kinda scummy.

sig wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:All my best friends died. Why do I want to play this game anymore? Oh come back Ian, we miss you. WELL DON'T DIE THEN!!!!!

This post seems genuine. I'm not so sure you would have been fine killing your friends so early. Which ones were your friends exactly? Epi, MP, Golden?

This is why I asked a question early on as to who would not feel comfortable killing someone as part of a larger meta. And you certainly fit the bill.

You still could have killed DF and Quin

I disagree this doesn't seem very genuine to me
In fact it seems kinda scummy.

My biggest ping of Scotty is in fact that he claims to find that post genuine. I get that disagreeing with someone doesn't always mean suspecting them for their opinion, but holy shit. HOW DOES THAT POST SEEM GENUINE AT ALL IN ANY UNIVERSE

Oh and only the emoticon posts were garbage, whew.

Seriously dude?

Yeah zebra I can agree with the scotty ping for that.

What does everyone think of nacho and sonjie? Both are relatively new to TS where killing off high posters is more common. Also nacho going awall and not posting as much after day 1 is odd so thoughts on nacho

Incidentally both nacho and soneji are among the players I'm thinking of randomizing between.

Seems they have gone more the route of letting the activity slow down to a crawl rather than try to take the lead now that most of the top level/most active players are dead. The players I was watching this phase were Long Con and Nacho. As I pointed out in my ISO of Long Con, he backed off of Wilgy due to Nacho's insistence that Wilgy's role PM antics weren't scum indicative. This was odd to me considering LC going after MP for supposed buddying but then allowing someone he has no reason to trust to sway his view on another player, rather than suspecting them of buddying/defending a scummate. That Nacho has fallen off the face of the earth in activity after d1 is a big red flag.

My vote will be on LC or Nacho today.

I fully support the lynch of anyone that isn't DrWilgy, Metalmarsh89, motel room 2.0, sig, Vompatti, and myself.

Metalmarsh89
Vompatti
sig
Scotty
Nijuukyugou
Nachomamma8
Long Con
motel room
MacDougall
Soneji
Snow Dog

Wait isn't motel room dead?

motel room died and later replaced someone k

Soneji wrote:Seems they have gone more the route of letting the activity slow down to a crawl rather than try to take the lead now that most of the top level/most active players are dead. The players I was watching this phase were Long Con and Nacho. As I pointed out in my ISO of Long Con, he backed off of Wilgy due to Nacho's insistence that Wilgy's role PM antics weren't scum indicative. This was odd to me considering LC going after MP for supposed buddying but then allowing someone he has no reason to trust to sway his view on another player, rather than suspecting them of buddying/defending a scummate. That Nacho has fallen off the face of the earth in activity after d1 is a big red flag.

My vote will be on LC or Nacho today.

I don't think it's that odd. I don't have to trust Nacho to believe that his point of view on Wilgy is right. And I don't see any connection at all between my accusation of MP's buddying, and the Wilgy-Nacho situation. I don't automatically accuse people of buddying just for defending a person, or agreeing with them. It takes a lot more.

I haven't contributed much to this game, I know... as I said before, I'm just easing my way back into having Mafia in my life. If you lynch me, you'll lynch a Civ. Let the baddies kill me instead, and it will be closer to a Civ win.

I still don't trust Zebra's antics this game, like posting only in smilies, or being very antagonistic, and the early vote for Snow Dog pings me as well. So, in the interest of not missing my opportunity again, I'll vote zebra now.

*votes a2thezebra*

Vompatti wrote:motel room died and later replaced someone k

I thought he died again tho

Long Con wrote: I still don't trust Zebra's antics this game, like posting only in smilies, or being very antagonistic, and the early vote for Snow Dog pings me as well. So, in the interest of not missing my opportunity again, I'll vote zebra now.

*votes a2thezebra*

:P

tfw you'd vote for the mafia but don't want to split the vote further