The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:17 pm I don't get it, does that mean cbob being lynched was just a coincidence?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:58 pmthere's a bunch of cats in the litterbox

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:02 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:58 pmthere's a bunch of cats in the litterbox

what

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:05 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:02 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:58 pmthere's a bunch of cats in the litterbox

what

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:17 am that's actually a really good point. we don't know the logistics of the Charlie Pace role. There could be a Desmond Hume role out there or something that could prevent cbob from dying today somehow.

it might be better to treat this lynch as normal just in case. there's no actual downside to doing so other than time cost.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:15 pm i missed another fucking vote today :[

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:05 pm I wonder if they actively chose to lynch cbob? or maybe he tried to fight against it since it wasn't an inevitability and that sketched people out.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:07 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:17 am that's actually a really good point. we don't know the logistics of the Charlie Pace role. There could be a Desmond Hume role out there or something that could prevent cbob from dying today somehow.

it might be better to treat this lynch as normal just in case. there's no actual downside to doing so other than time cost.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:15 pm i missed another fucking vote today :[

we missed ya buddy. That's why it's not a bad idea to put your vote in early.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:07 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:17 am that's actually a really good point. we don't know the logistics of the Charlie Pace role. There could be a Desmond Hume role out there or something that could prevent cbob from dying today somehow.

it might be better to treat this lynch as normal just in case. there's no actual downside to doing so other than time cost.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:15 pm i missed another fucking vote today :[

we missed ya buddy. That's why it's not a bad idea to put your vote in early.

yeah I forgot, so many day ends are happening while I'm at work now and I'm used to voting near deadline

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:33 amSup.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:01 pm I would like to make a plea tomorrow that we put as many votes on one person to show those pikachu punks we can reach a decision.

Not to sound like an echo, but Marmot 2018 isn't the worst decision, if only because no one has outright objected to it (or anyone that I have noticed). It's not like he's in here defending himself.

No matter who gets killed tonight, can we all agree that we need to get a lynch across just to see if we can skip the whole NK phase entirely?

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:12 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:01 pm I would like to make a plea tomorrow that we put as many votes on one person to show those pikachu punks we can reach a decision.

Not to sound like an echo, but Marmot 2018 isn't the worst decision, if only because no one has outright objected to it (or anyone that I have noticed). It's not like he's in here defending himself.

No matter who gets killed tonight, can we all agree that we need to get a lynch across just to see if we can skip the whole NK phase entirely?

I don't disagree that we should attempt to lynch someone--especially since we have gained a numbers advantage (with the lynching of lc) since we last tried, so we might be able to.

But, what's your logic on skipping the nk phase? The theory, iirc from the other camp, that the mafia can only kill from the camp that didn't lynch? I think it's just as likely that the mafia(s) are choosing to kill from one camp--and, in large part, to do so in order to fuck with everyone and make it seem like that's what's happening since the theory was raised. Mainly from a game set up standpoint, it would seem like an odd dynamic to introduce.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:16 am @LoRab are you against voting for Marmot tomorrow?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:14 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:12 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:01 pm I would like to make a plea tomorrow that we put as many votes on one person to show those pikachu punks we can reach a decision.

Not to sound like an echo, but Marmot 2018 isn't the worst decision, if only because no one has outright objected to it (or anyone that I have noticed). It's not like he's in here defending himself.

No matter who gets killed tonight, can we all agree that we need to get a lynch across just to see if we can skip the whole NK phase entirely?

I don't disagree that we should attempt to lynch someone--especially since we have gained a numbers advantage (with the lynching of lc) since we last tried, so we might be able to.

But, what's your logic on skipping the nk phase? The theory, iirc from the other camp, that the mafia can only kill from the camp that didn't lynch? I think it's just as likely that the mafia(s) are choosing to kill from one camp--and, in large part, to do so in order to fuck with everyone and make it seem like that's what's happening since the theory was raised. Mainly from a game set up standpoint, it would seem like an odd dynamic to introduce.

The logic is that I find it less likely that teams can communicate across different beaches. For a team to collectively go “let’s just all kill people on one tribe” is a plan that has no merit. Why do this? To “fuck with everyone”? Naw. This here’s a game mechanic, and it makes sense if we consolidate. Rewards groupthink, which in this setting, is exactly what the tribes are.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:03 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:14 am

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:12 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:01 pm I would like to make a plea tomorrow that we put as many votes on one person to show those pikachu punks we can reach a decision.

Not to sound like an echo, but Marmot 2018 isn't the worst decision, if only because no one has outright objected to it (or anyone that I have noticed). It's not like he's in here defending himself.

No matter who gets killed tonight, can we all agree that we need to get a lynch across just to see if we can skip the whole NK phase entirely?

I don't disagree that we should attempt to lynch someone--especially since we have gained a numbers advantage (with the lynching of lc) since we last tried, so we might be able to.

But, what's your logic on skipping the nk phase? The theory, iirc from the other camp, that the mafia can only kill from the camp that didn't lynch? I think it's just as likely that the mafia(s) are choosing to kill from one camp--and, in large part, to do so in order to fuck with everyone and make it seem like that's what's happening since the theory was raised. Mainly from a game set up standpoint, it would seem like an odd dynamic to introduce.

The logic is that I find it less likely that teams can communicate across different beaches. For a team to collectively go “let’s just all kill people on one tribe” is a plan that has no merit. Why do this? To “fuck with everyone”? Naw. This here’s a game mechanic, and it makes sense if we consolidate. Rewards groupthink, which in this setting, is exactly what the tribes are.

So, with that theory, assuming 2 mafias (more than 2 would seem unbalanced)--one on each beach--the one that gets to kill is the one that didn't have a successful lynch on their beach? So is the name "Evil Evens" a misdirect? I was thinking that meant it was the mafia that kills on even nights (with the usual set up of multiple mafias, alternating nights). Also, Golden said more than once that the split of players between beaches was random--statistically, I'd think it more likely that there are members of any given mafia on both teams. I guess it's possible that they might not have cross-beach BTSC, but then from a set up perspective, it would seem unfair for a team to have to strategize without the ability to communicate. We already know there were 2 roles (of unknown allegiance) that had BTSC across tribes--so why wouldn't mafia be the same?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:23 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:12 am I feel like this is in the rules somewhere.

When you die and get a new role, we don’t know alignment may be different, yeah? That is, could it be an okay thing to get lynched as mafia?

Are roles assigned randomly as first and second roles? That is, could there be only one mafia in this tribe?

Anyone besides Marmot feel like self voting?

2nd roles are not assigned randomly. They were paired and the players received a pair at random.

As was noted in the second post of the thread, the split of players into tribes was random. There is no guarantee of any particular number or ratio of any alignment in the tribe.

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:15 pm But Golden said it was completely random:

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:23 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:12 am I feel like this is in the rules somewhere.

When you die and get a new role, we don’t know alignment may be different, yeah? That is, could it be an okay thing to get lynched as mafia?

Are roles assigned randomly as first and second roles? That is, could there be only one mafia in this tribe?

Anyone besides Marmot feel like self voting?

2nd roles are not assigned randomly. They were paired and the players received a pair at random.

As was noted in the second post of the thread, the split of players into tribes was random. There is no guarantee of any particular number or ratio of any alignment in the tribe.

That doesn't seem like a tricksy host answer, but I guess it could be.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:40 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:33 amSup.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:06 pm Someone just kill me. I don’t feel like I’m doing anything useful in this game besides regurgitating errant thoughts

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:07 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:06 pm Someone just kill me. I don’t feel like I’m doing anything useful in this game besides regurgitating errant thoughts

That was my clone posting that, ive had a change of heart, don’t kill me, comma

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:15 pm But Golden said it was completely random:

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:23 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:12 am I feel like this is in the rules somewhere.

When you die and get a new role, we don’t know alignment may be different, yeah? That is, could it be an okay thing to get lynched as mafia?

Are roles assigned randomly as first and second roles? That is, could there be only one mafia in this tribe?

Anyone besides Marmot feel like self voting?

2nd roles are not assigned randomly. They were paired and the players received a pair at random.

As was noted in the second post of the thread, the split of players into tribes was random. There is no guarantee of any particular number or ratio of any alignment in the tribe.

That doesn't seem like a tricksy host answer, but I guess it could be.

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:03 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:15 pm But Golden said it was completely random:

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:23 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:12 am I feel like this is in the rules somewhere.

When you die and get a new role, we don’t know alignment may be different, yeah? That is, could it be an okay thing to get lynched as mafia?

Are roles assigned randomly as first and second roles? That is, could there be only one mafia in this tribe?

Anyone besides Marmot feel like self voting?

2nd roles are not assigned randomly. They were paired and the players received a pair at random.

As was noted in the second post of the thread, the split of players into tribes was random. There is no guarantee of any particular number or ratio of any alignment in the tribe.

That doesn't seem like a tricksy host answer, but I guess it could be.

There is no trick. I put all your names in a randomiser. The first half went to one beach, the next half to another.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:28 pm So I'd still like to assume that by this point mafia are slowly picking off people that aren't on their team. I'm still under the impression that there are multiple mafia/killing teams. Which mean anyone that has been NK'd shouldn't earn any civvie points
That list is:
-nijuu
-me
-jack
-sig

But that also means that we shouldn't shy away from lynching those that haven't been killed yet. You see, if there is just one mafia team, they're spreading the killing around, and leveling the playing field. I'm actually shocked that nijuu, jack or myself haven't been fully killed yet. I'm not quite sure why that is, but i'm just munching on my carrot while I'm here and not asking too many questions about it.

Now if there are multiple mafia teams, leveling the playing field makes much more sense for mafia. Odds are, in multiple teams, that they kill on odd/even nights. Which means they're disadvantaged by limited opportunities and minority volume. So of course they're just going to eliminate lives slowly but methodically pick off those with 2 lives.

Watch, now that I say that, I'm gonna die tonight.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:13 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:28 pm So I'd still like to assume that by this point mafia are slowly picking off people that aren't on their team. I'm still under the impression that there are multiple mafia/killing teams. Which mean anyone that has been NK'd shouldn't earn any civvie points
That list is:
-nijuu
-me
-jack
-sig

But that also means that we shouldn't shy away from lynching those that haven't been killed yet. You see, if there is just one mafia team, they're spreading the killing around, and leveling the playing field. I'm actually shocked that nijuu, jack or myself haven't been fully killed yet. I'm not quite sure why that is, but i'm just munching on my carrot while I'm here and not asking too many questions about it.

Now if there are multiple mafia teams, leveling the playing field makes much more sense for mafia. Odds are, in multiple teams, that they kill on odd/even nights. Which means they're disadvantaged by limited opportunities and minority volume. So of course they're just going to eliminate lives slowly but methodically pick off those with 2 lives.

Watch, now that I say that, I'm gonna die tonight.

That makes two of us. Maybe it’s cause Bidoff.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:04 pm Perhaps the mafia kill is not carried out by a player or can cross beaches.

I agree with the theory that lynches and nightkills are opposite because that ensures equal tribe numbers (which is important why? Maybe this is a dumb theory) but if beaches are totally random, you could end up with no mafia on one side and a required kill on that side.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:01 pm I would like to make a plea tomorrow that we put as many votes on one person to show those pikachu punks we can reach a decision.

Not to sound like an echo, but Marmot 2018 isn't the worst decision, if only because no one has outright objected to it (or anyone that I have noticed). It's not like he's in here defending himself.

No matter who gets killed tonight, can we all agree that we need to get a lynch across just to see if we can skip the whole NK phase entirely?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:07 pm How did they get a lynch and a NK? I mean, I see SVS’ role could make someone else die, but like...what?

vote Marmot aubergine before things get hairy. And I don’t mean clumps of hair.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:37 pm vote marmot

I also may be feeling aubergine about niju 2.0.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:37 pm vote marmot

I also may be feeling aubergine about niju 2.0.

Oh? Do tell.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:45 pm

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:37 pm vote marmot

I also may be feeling aubergine about niju 2.0.

Oh? Do tell.

Maybe later.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:03 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:40 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:33 amSup.

So you’ve got nothing to say beside ‘sup’?

I don’t even know why I try.