The Syndicate

Why do you think that post is extremely townie Marge? Feels like something a wolf can easily pick up on to shade or kick start a fake case, doesn't have to be necessarily w/w

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:48 pm Why do you think that post is extremely townie Marge? Feels like something a wolf can easily pick up on to shade or kick start a fake case, doesn't have to be necessarily w/w

When does a wolf ever use that as a crutch for a push?

on a villager, obv

[VOTE: Krusty the Clown ] aubergine

could rock with this

i guess i looked at it being villagery because the progression was

"gosh, Grumple fell off the stairs from d1 to now" and then they make that post?

idk, seeing it as a bit silly for a wolf to make on a villager

don't see the point, felt like I can see the gears turning, like they noticed someone wasn't active, they look for their posts and spot something

and I don't think wolves come up with that after saying it lol

idk, resonates with me

"out of all of the posts they had in their ISO, Lisa is gonna point out that thing?"

type of mindset I have behind the read

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:50 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:48 pm Why do you think that post is extremely townie Marge? Feels like something a wolf can easily pick up on to shade or kick start a fake case, doesn't have to be necessarily w/w

When does a wolf ever use that as a crutch for a push?

Why not? I mean obviously not as the whole base of a case but like it's an easily fake-able ping. I fail to see how it's got a civilian mindset behind it.

Burns made a mention of it as well I think lol

That's fair

And good post. I like your thoughts process and how you read the game, I always make those kind of reads based on how posts make me feel and what I perceive to be the idea behind them

Like CBG's post of Mill is suss in such a trolley way just before they got chopped lol

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:59 pm I fail to see how it's got a civilian mindset behind it.

i'm not really thinking it's anything explicitly civvie-motivated rather than just...not wolf motivated.

i struggle to find a wolf faking that type of read and for what reasons. not sure if as a wolf you'd go to that length?

i mean, who would have ever thought about that type of stuff?

maybe you're right but ime I'd say that stuff is kinda hard to fake as a wolf unless it's w/w

Thoughts on Alison? I feel like she's the least reconsidered among active people so far.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:26 am I feel like you've been going at the game one target at a time each phase. I don't think it's inherently a bad thing especially if someone is confident in their reads, but you don't give off that vibe. And it also stands in stark contrast with your earlier assessment on the state of the game.

I keep coming back to this thought I had about her affect on the game so far. Kind of fits someone content with how the game is developing?

I have her in PoE but would always love seeing her go after other people.

if you have a case or something maybe I can sheep

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:02 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:59 pm I fail to see how it's got a civilian mindset behind it.

i'm not really thinking it's anything explicitly civvie-motivated rather than just...not wolf motivated.

i struggle to find a wolf faking that type of read and for what reasons. not sure if as a wolf you'd go to that length?

i mean, who would have ever thought about that type of stuff?

maybe you're right but ime I'd say that stuff is kinda hard to fake as a wolf unless it's w/w

I get the angle of thoughts that usually don't pop in the heads of wolves but like here it's pretty tame I feel since the drop off in activity and Grumple's many questions were pretty noticeable imo. It's the kind of stuff that I love to point out as scum because they're at a very superficial level. There is also like a lack of attachment to it and progression from her which usually happen when a townie gets pinged by something that no one has comment and especially when it results in an immediate read. Like an eureka moment that feels genuine lol. Here it comes off more as her wanting to put it lights I guess.

Your take is alright though and I might be wrong

That's basically the only negative phrase I had about her so far lmaoo

She's been pretty townie, and I really liked her take on the game state and early on and what seemed to be concerns. It just hasn't materialized into urgency from her so that's the meh thing

I have yet to see a wolf game from Alison

I basically don't remember any of their posts this game so I'll take a look tomorrow, assuming I get to live which is pretty likely

hello

here for a hot second

very very very very likely won't be here for EOD

is there anything super pressing that I absolutely 100% need to address while I am here?

besides voting lol

krusty has been Low Energy and nitpicking weird things D3

Bart and Marge have shown up which is rad, but Marge's casing doesn't feel coherent to me

however I've only skimmed, so that could be a problem of personal comprehension and not, like, intrinsic to her behaviour

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:26 pm krusty has been Low Energy and nitpicking weird things D3

Bart and Marge have shown up which is rad, but Marge's casing doesn't feel coherent to me

however I've only skimmed, so that could be a problem of personal comprehension and not, like, intrinsic to her behaviour

How so?

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:26 pm krusty has been Low Energy and nitpicking weird things D3

like why now would trying to figure out identities be a good use of time, even if someone is here all day

why the insistence on a burns vs lisa wagon based on their behaviour against each other and not like, a personal read on both

"they've been against each other all game so let's just rand it" is random af

maybe chaos is the goal though

chaos can be helpful to town if we're stagnant

it's why I liked Skinner's entrance lol

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:29 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:26 pm krusty has been Low Energy and nitpicking weird things D3

Bart and Marge have shown up which is rad, but Marge's casing doesn't feel coherent to me

however I've only skimmed, so that could be a problem of personal comprehension and not, like, intrinsic to her behaviour

How so?

the bold on here does not show well at all

only noticed what you were singling out when I quoted

okay marge, let me go back a page or two

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:23 pm here for a hot second

Short thoughts for everyone

yeah should have quoted it specifically, my bad

so what I gather is that Krusty / Burns / Gramps are either all CFC'ers or from other sites

i prob don't wanna vote krusty today tho, his D3 is kinda solid just aggression-wise

[VOTE: Burns ] aubergine

maybe this finally picks up so we can move on with the game and get some real info

Marge has pointed out twice now a melodramatic "I read Homer as town D1 and look, look how right I was" without really connecting it to anything except a subtext that she is also town and we should listen to her because she knows who town is

which doesn't coherently parse in any reasonable way, we've all cased someone as town, based on gut or reads, and look at that, they flipped town. that doesn't exclusively grant us town cred because we looked at a name and went "town" and they flipped town

so appealing to emotion about a Homer NK doesn't make sense. we've ALL town-read someone who ended up flipping town. doesn't matter, why keep pointing it out? it's not a replacement for reading or defending. It's not like she was some outspoken defendant of Homer, she just quoted his poor D1 and went "looks towny to me" and that was that. he flipped town after being killed by wolves and now it's "woe is me, ignored defender of town"??? no

it's very hard for me to not think you're straight up feigning being angry or whatever

do you scum read me or wat, otherwise why tf do you keep coming up with this shit

so annoying damn

this is D1 stuff, why are you still on it

lmao

[VOTE: Gramps ] aubergine

give a read on me and stop being pissed for no reason otherwise I'm gonna keep thinking you're faking it

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:38 pm it's very hard for me to not think you're straight up feigning being angry or whatever

do you scum read me or wat, otherwise why tf do you keep coming up with this shit

so annoying damn

this is D1 stuff, why are you still on it

how can it be D1 stuff if Homer was night killed N2 and your "woe is me" posts are D3? lol what

like even on D1 you were acting like I kicked you in the nether region for even daring to town read homer

why is that part so important to you? are you saying it's wolfy that I'm doing it?

you've been struggling for 3 days to have any remote form of progression on me and it keeps getting stopped at exactly "he was right on Homer and I'm so hurt because of it"

move on

I can see someone being irked with the "I called it!" gloating. The agenda being you looking for TRs because of it. I read it as town tbh because it's so trolly lol

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:41 pm I can see someone being irked with the "I called it!" gloating. The agenda being you looking for TRs because of it. I read it as town tbh because it's so trolly lol

Your take of the above is a v/v interaction?

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:32 pm

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:23 pm here for a hot second

Short thoughts for everyone

everyone is cool except for the wagons

okay no

In order from worst to best in POE, Krusty > Marge > Lisa > Allison

But Krusty is worst due to similar behaviour with previous chops, so I'm not sure how much of a win that is likely to be

my read from my wall hasn't had reason to change, he took up confrontational positions in almost any conflict or wagon in the first half of the game. now he is just kinda coasting on ID guesses and wanting a thunderdome. Since he's a potential wagon himself it doesn't seem smart to coast or to reduce usability of reads

(and that comes right back to my paragraph above about how this is exactly like all the villagers we've chopped. "this is kinda bad play and nothing's really connecting," chopped, "oh, they were town")

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:34 pm so what I gather is that Krusty / Burns / Gramps are either all CFC'ers or from other sites

i prob don't wanna vote krusty today tho, his D3 is kinda solid just aggression-wise

Otto & I are from another site. It's been brought up several times.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:44 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:41 pm I can see someone being irked with the "I called it!" gloating. The agenda being you looking for TRs because of it. I read it as town tbh because it's so trolly lol

Your take of the above is a v/v interaction?

I read them independently as town so yeah I guess. Why?

Also what prompted this question?

can we just vote burns today please

get some real info imo

alright I got ten more minutes

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:41 pm like even on D1 you were acting like I kicked you in the nether region for even daring to town read homer

why is that part so important to you? are you saying it's wolfy that I'm doing it?

you've been struggling for 3 days to have any remote form of progression on me and it keeps getting stopped at exactly "he was right on Homer and I'm so hurt because of it"

move on

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:41 pm I can see someone being irked with the "I called it!" gloating. The agenda being you looking for TRs because of it. I read it as town tbh because it's so trolly lol

mostly what Hugh said

But being right and pointing it out isn't my issue, and I've explained this a couple times

My issue is that you just throw out a position, don't really back it up beyond "lol idk, just cuz," and then when you happen to be right days later you immediately resort to AtE

When I gave you a hard time D1 about town-reading Homer you switched your vote from me and told me to drop it

At least this time you switched your vote to me and told me to drop it, a real change of pace

boy do I love using votes as a debate tool

so to be explicit, yes, I think it's wolfy to do that

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:53 pm so to be explicit, yes, I think it's wolfy to do that

not sure why pointing it out means you think I'm pissed or kicked in the balls

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:38 pm it's very hard for me to not think you're straight up feigning being angry or whatever

do you scum read me or wat, otherwise why tf do you keep coming up with this shit

so annoying damn

this is D1 stuff, why are you still on it

Because we really haven't made any progress since day one?

Besides, you DID bring up that "I was right on Homer" thing...and even though "oooooo, TMI!!!" is not my thing...it is kinda convenient for you and that claim that Homer is confirmed town by virtue of being dead.

ok then, get omgused on, what can I say

you've been slanking today so from your PoV it's only fair game to yeet you here because it's wolfy to do nothing

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:54 pm ok then, get omgused on, what can I say

you've been slanking today so from your PoV it's only fair game to yeet you here because it's wolfy to do nothing

do you intentionally go out of your way to say things like this

I contribute when I'm here and have been one of the most active players

yes I am not active today

but if you want to park your vote with an OMGUS and a "I'm just following your POV here brah" take then okay, cool